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Link Posted: 7/25/2021 3:24:00 PM EST
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Has anyone found a extended run solution for the HF 2000W inverter generators? I searched and answers are all over the place. Read you have to bypass some charcoal filter that is inline with gas lines. A simple gravity fed boat tank to fuel cap?
Link Posted: 7/25/2021 4:21:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:

Likely sitting in the shipping containers waiting to be unloaded.
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
Originally Posted By cucamelsmd15:
Has anybody actually SEEN a Predator 9500 in the wild? Like actually seen and laid eyes and hands on? They are unobtanium in my AO.

I have the 3500 and it has been rock solid for me as a backup, but with a 6 circuit switch. I am very strongly looking at the 9500 as a whole house backup solution. Mainly more for well and hot water versus AC at this point.
No. The local store has been out forever. They might get 1 in every month it seems. They keep kicking the can on online ordering for them too. Was going to be June 12, then 22, then July 13, then July 23. Who knows.
Price went up too. I swear it was $1799 2 months ago when I first saw it, now it's $1999 and never available.

Likely sitting in the shipping containers waiting to be unloaded.


A friend of mine works at one of their locations, he says the generators are getting stolen like crazy, much higher theft rate than usual lately.
Link Posted: 7/25/2021 4:48:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
They're now $1999.00. I was ready to jump at $1799.00 but they've been out of stock. My local store finally got some (1?)
and the price is $1999.00.
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Originally Posted By AKCory762:
Damn those new predator 9500's look bad ass. $1700 tho. Anyone got a super coupon?
They're now $1999.00. I was ready to jump at $1799.00 but they've been out of stock. My local store finally got some (1?)
and the price is $1999.00.
You guys know the db rating on those are in the mid 70's right?
Link Posted: 7/25/2021 5:20:54 PM EST
[#4]
I have the HF 2000 watt inverter generator. Anybody here tried the parallel kit running 2 of these together?
Thinking about getting a second for emergencies and I like the idea of still being portable.

The 2000 Wens are pretty cheap around here @$300 at local pawn shops but I assume I shouldn’t mix brands if running parallel and the Predator has treated me pretty good whenever I needed it.

Looks like I need to comb through this thread.
Link Posted: 7/25/2021 6:14:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By theblackcat:
I have the HF 2000 watt inverter generator. Anybody here tried the parallel kit running 2 of these together?
Thinking about getting a second for emergencies and I like the idea of still being portable.

The 2000 Wens are pretty cheap around here @$300 at local pawn shops but I assume I shouldn’t mix brands if running parallel and the Predator has treated me pretty good whenever I needed it.

Looks like I need to comb through this thread.
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Someone here posted about running different brands in parallel with no issues.   May have been earlier in this thread
Link Posted: 7/26/2021 8:25:03 AM EST
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Someone here posted about running different brands in parallel with no issues.   May have been earlier in this thread
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Originally Posted By theblackcat:
I have the HF 2000 watt inverter generator. Anybody here tried the parallel kit running 2 of these together?
Thinking about getting a second for emergencies and I like the idea of still being portable.

The 2000 Wens are pretty cheap around here @$300 at local pawn shops but I assume I shouldn’t mix brands if running parallel and the Predator has treated me pretty good whenever I needed it.

Looks like I need to comb through this thread.


Someone here posted about running different brands in parallel with no issues.   May have been earlier in this thread


I have posted in this thread about running my Predator 3500 in parallel with other brand 2K inverter generators.  I have used this method for the past several years in tests and service without any issues.  

I currently have the 3500 connected with an AiPower SUA2000ID dual fuel model ($405 right now at Walmart).  It works fine and other brands do also.  They share the load and this has been tested with the Predator panel meter and a Kil-A-Watt meter.  If you look at the factory parallel kit schematics for most brands, you will see the parallel connections wired directly to the AC out plugs.  I have my predator converted to tri fuel and run it off my home natural gas line.  The 2K runs off of propane and I have never put gasoline in the tank.  After about 12 hours on the last oil change the oil still looks like honey when I check it.  

Edited to add:  This pricing on the AiPower dual fuel is really good by the way.  The generator ships with the dual stage regulator for propane tank and hose and may still include the parallel cables also.  The reviews are four star and the only compaint was one guy said it was loud.  My kit to convert my Predator was $169 for tri fuel, so this is really a bargain and has a 2 year warranty, 90 day return to Wally World.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 7:17:24 AM EST
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I was just checking prices and found a decent price for a Champion Dual Fuel 2Kw suitcase inverter at Wally World.  On the website for $406.85 with free shipping.

Champion Inverter

Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:17:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
I was just checking prices and found a decent price for a Champion Dual Fuel 2Kw suitcase inverter at Wally World.  On the website for $406.85 with free shipping.

Champion Inverter

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For those of us with ad blockers and firewalls the arfcom-viglink bastarized hotlinks don't work.

Link fixed.....
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Champion-Power-Equipment-2000-Watt-Dual-Fuel-Stackable-Portable-Inverter-Generator/623522320
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 6:01:36 PM EST
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Requesting opinions...

I've read the first 20 pages and the last 15 of this thread...

I'm looking to supplement my Predator 2000 with a second generator, large enough to run a 12kBTU window unit (10 amps, 1150 watts, can't adequately measure surge amps but it overloads the 2000)

I can run my house in winter off the Predator 2000 and did during Snovid thanks to the help of this forum (NG furnace) but summer is a different thing entirely. Plus, I'd like the

Here's my requirements:

-NG conversion/tri-fuel
-3500-4500 watts
-inverter
-Plan to have a transfer box installed or a generlink (meter connection) installed

Based on this thread and some other study, here are the options I'm considering:

Predator 3500
-tri-fuel kit available (Nash?)

Champion 4500/4650 Dual Fuel
-Can I get NG conversion?
-Better warranty

Questions:

Which would you buy? Price difference is negligible, with the added benefits. Best price?

Are the tri-fuel kits easy to switch back and forth between fuels, if needed?

Other thoughts?

Thanks in advance

Link Posted: 7/30/2021 6:51:30 PM EST
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I have the Predator 3500 with the NashFuel trifuel kit and it is working great.  I run it on natural gas mostly, there is still some gasoline in the tank but I haven't used that for a year or so. (Probably should drain it.)  I also set up the propane system for a test and it runs well also.

If you have any specific questions about this configuration I am glad to share my experiences and can give you pics and explain anything I have done.  Ask here or privately.

I also still have my dual fuel AiPower 2K on my Rubbermade cart and that is a very efficient way to store and use this type of setup.  I changed all the wheels to 5" casters with locks and that made a big difference in ease of movement and stability also.  I put an interlock on my breaker panel fed by a twin 30 amp breaker feeding the whole house.

It is not as overwhelming as you might imagine, and this setup lets me power the house in less than 5 minutes or so if necessary.
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 7:31:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
I have the Predator 3500 with the NashFuel trifuel kit and it is working great.  I run it on natural gas mostly, there is still some gasoline in the tank but I haven't used that for a year or so. (Probably should drain it.)  I also set up the propane system for a test and it runs well also.

If you have any specific questions about this configuration I am glad to share my experiences and can give you pics and explain anything I have done.  Ask here or privately.

I also still have my dual fuel AiPower 2K on my Rubbermade cart and that is a very efficient way to store and use this type of setup.  I changed all the wheels to 5" casters with locks and that made a big difference in ease of movement and stability also.  I put an interlock on my breaker panel fed by a twin 30 amp breaker feeding the whole house.

It is not as overwhelming as you might imagine, and this setup lets me power the house in less than 5 minutes or so if necessary.
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@draver

Thanks for the response. Glad to hear the HF 3500 has done well for you.

How do you switch between fuels? What’s the process?

Thanks
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 7:49:01 PM EST
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I have done the conversion to having a toggle switch activate the ignition so that when the main rotary knob is off, it shuts off the gas tank fuel, so is also switched off.  With the ignition toggle on, the electric start and spark still function.  Hooking up the propane or natgas provides fuel and the Predator runs normally.  It might sound a little confusing, but it is very simple and rock solid in function.

You can wire up that switch in less than an hour even if you don't know what you are doing due to a very good YouTube video.  I was able to follow it and got the same results.

buried somewhere in the middle of this thread are some pics of some of my setup.  I imagine there is a way to search the thread by username, so maybe when you have some spare time give that a shot.

Here is the video that should clarify my description hopefully:  Predator fuel switching conversion
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 8:12:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
I have done the conversion to having a toggle switch activate the ignition so that when the main rotary knob is off, it shuts off the gas tank fuel, so is also switched off.  With the ignition toggle on, the electric start and spark still function.  Hooking up the propane or natgas provides fuel and the Predator runs normally.  It might sound a little confusing, but it is very simple and rock solid in function.

You can wire up that switch in less than an hour even if you don't know what you are doing due to a very good YouTube video.  I was able to follow it and got the same results.

buried somewhere in the middle of this thread are some pics of some of my setup.  I imagine there is a way to search the thread by username, so maybe when you have some spare time give that a shot.

Here is the video that should clarify my description hopefully:  Predator fuel switching conversion
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Awesome. Thanks for that video.

I'll check it out.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 8:04:16 AM EST
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Just a few things not in the video.  

You can get pressure washer 3/8" fittings at Lowes cheaper that those mentioned and it's critical that you get 3/8".   They are rated for 5,000psi and are straight through like the pricey brand he mentions.  I think I paid $8-$10 for a male/female set.  I am using about 15' of air hose and it doesn't affect performance no matter which end the regulator is at, gas stub or generator.  Cut the fittings off that come with the air hose and replace with 3/8" barbed connector fittings.  Otherwise you have a choke point since those on the hose are 1/4".   I actually bought a 10 pack of the connector wire for the toggle switch, so if you want one I have a few left over.  If I can find them, I'll send you one if you PM me your address.  

That's all I can remember for now, but if you start this and have any problems, you know where to find me.

I have edited a few phrases in this post so if it seems changed, yeah well, it is.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 3:40:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
Just a few things not in the video.  

You can get pressure washer 3/8" fittings at Lowes cheaper that those mentioned and it's critical that you get 3/8".   They are rated for 5,000psi and are straight through like the pricey brand he mentions.  I think I paid $8-$10 for a male/female set.  I am using about 15' of air hose and it doesn't affect performance no matter which end the regulator is at, gas stub or generator.  Cut the fittings off that come with the air hose and replace with 3/8" barbed connector fittings.  Otherwise you have a choke point since those on the hose are 1/4".   I actually bought a 10 pack of the connector wire for the toggle switch, so if you want one I have a few left over.  If I can find them, I'll send you one if you PM me your address.  

That's all I can remember for now, but if you start this and have any problems, you know where to find me.

I have edited a few phrases in this post so if it seems changed, yeah well, it is.
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Thanks!

I’ll PM you.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 3:45:57 PM EST
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Any one have the Champion 4500 or 4560 and can compare the engine with the Predator 3500?

Reason I ask, both are listed as having 212cc engines and, if they’re the same, it would make sense that the fuel conversions would work on both.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 3:57:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
I have the Predator 3500 with the NashFuel trifuel kit and it is working great.  I run it on natural gas mostly, there is still some gasoline in the tank but I haven't used that for a year or so. (Probably should drain it.)  I also set up the propane system for a test and it runs well also.

If you have any specific questions about this configuration I am glad to share my experiences and can give you pics and explain anything I have done.  Ask here or privately.

I also still have my dual fuel AiPower 2K on my Rubbermade cart and that is a very efficient way to store and use this type of setup.  I changed all the wheels to 5" casters with locks and that made a big difference in ease of movement and stability also.  I put an interlock on my breaker panel fed by a twin 30 amp breaker feeding the whole house.

It is not as overwhelming as you might imagine, and this setup lets me power the house in less than 5 minutes or so if necessary.
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Interesting.  Pic please?
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 4:35:23 PM EST
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Any one have the Champion 4500 or 4560 and can compare the engine with the Predator 3500?

Reason I ask, both are listed as having 212cc engines and, if they’re the same, it would make sense that the fuel conversions would work on both.
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Even though they're the same displacement, it's unlikely that they're the same engine (with the same carb).

Champion builds most of their engines themselves.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 6:44:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
I have the Predator 3500 with the NashFuel trifuel kit and it is working great.  I run it on natural gas mostly, there is still some gasoline in the tank but I haven't used that for a year or so. (Probably should drain it.)  I also set up the propane system for a test and it runs well also.

If you have any specific questions about this configuration I am glad to share my experiences and can give you pics and explain anything I have done.  Ask here or privately.

I also still have my dual fuel AiPower 2K on my Rubbermade cart and that is a very efficient way to store and use this type of setup.  I changed all the wheels to 5" casters with locks and that made a big difference in ease of movement and stability also.  I put an interlock on my breaker panel fed by a twin 30 amp breaker feeding the whole house.

It is not as overwhelming as you might imagine, and this setup lets me power the house in less than 5 minutes or so if necessary.
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@draver
Details on the Rubbermaid cart? That's sounds interesting.  
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 7:19:10 PM EST
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Sure, but pic of what?  The kit is already installed, and the video shows some of the ignition details.  I added another "T" to my house side gas plumbing and put in a lever valve and used 3/8" quick connectors for the output, hose, regulator and input line to the generator.

Let me know what you would like to see, I may already have pics, I took some during the build.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 7:55:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/31/2021 9:20:38 PM EST
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If anyoe is willing to gamble, the local HF has "refurbished" 3500 inverter generators for $650.
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 9:45:53 PM EST
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Even though they're the same displacement, it's unlikely that they're the same engine (with the same carb).

Champion builds most of their engines themselves.
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Originally Posted By RegularJoe58:
Any one have the Champion 4500 or 4560 and can compare the engine with the Predator 3500?

Reason I ask, both are listed as having 212cc engines and, if they’re the same, it would make sense that the fuel conversions would work on both.


Even though they're the same displacement, it's unlikely that they're the same engine (with the same carb).

Champion builds most of their engines themselves.


Champion is just an importer like Harbor Freight so they don’t build any of their portable generators. Perhaps the old Champions were different.

The Champion 4500/4650 (actually 3,500 running watts) is Chinese built, but by a different manufacturer than Predator. According to this video at 3:43 the Champion 212cc engine manufacturer is RATO. The nearly exact same generator is sold under the Wen brand, and probably others.

It’s still a 212cc Honda clone, so I’d guess that most parts are compatible, although the valve cover and rocker arms are different than standard Honda clones.

As for fuel conversions being compatible between Champion and Predator, my guess is that it depends on the exact model of Champion 3500 (yes, I call it 3500 because the industry standard is running watts). Clone engines typically all use very similar carbs, but Champion’s remote start version is more complicated.
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 6:01:39 AM EST
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@draver

Thanks for the response. Glad to hear the HF 3500 has done well for you.

How do you switch between fuels? What’s the process?

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Fuel switching is simple.  To run on propane or natural gas with the toggle/ignition switch conversion merely leave the rotary fuel-choke knob OFF, switch the toggle to ON, prime the fuel line with the regulator tickler, hook up your fuel line and start.  To run on gasoline, toggle to ON, fuel knob to run or choke and start.  You can leave the toggle switch on with gasoline and set the knob to OFF to run the carb bowl out of fuel for storage.  If you will be running parallel gensets, connect them before starting either one.  I recommend the WEN brand parallel cables for $12-$14 from Amazon.  5 feet long and 12 gauge I believe.  

WEN Parallel Cable-Amazon

I do not run on gasoline any longer, however I do keep a plug in the inlet quick connect for the gen natgas fuel line.  It would suck air or let in bugs otherwise.  A small, easily overlooked detail.  Also, I have replaced the ground locknuts for my parallel connection with wing nuts.  Who wants to go looking for a metric wrench to hook up a cable?
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 4:24:22 PM EST
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Champion is just an importer like Harbor Freight so they don’t build any of their portable generators. Perhaps the old Champions were different.

The Champion 4500/4650 (actually 3,500 running watts) is Chinese built, but by a different manufacturer than Predator. According to this video at 3:43 the Champion 212cc engine manufacturer is RATO. The nearly exact same generator is sold under the Wen brand, and probably others.

It’s still a 212cc Honda clone, so I’d guess that most parts are compatible, although the valve cover and rocker arms are different than standard Honda clones.

As for fuel conversions being compatible between Champion and Predator, my guess is that it depends on the exact model of Champion 3500 (yes, I call it 3500 because the industry standard is running watts). Clone engines typically all use very similar carbs, but Champion’s remote start version is more complicated.
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By RegularJoe58:
Any one have the Champion 4500 or 4560 and can compare the engine with the Predator 3500?

Reason I ask, both are listed as having 212cc engines and, if they’re the same, it would make sense that the fuel conversions would work on both.


Even though they're the same displacement, it's unlikely that they're the same engine (with the same carb).

Champion builds most of their engines themselves.


Champion is just an importer like Harbor Freight so they don’t build any of their portable generators. Perhaps the old Champions were different.

The Champion 4500/4650 (actually 3,500 running watts) is Chinese built, but by a different manufacturer than Predator. According to this video at 3:43 the Champion 212cc engine manufacturer is RATO. The nearly exact same generator is sold under the Wen brand, and probably others.

It’s still a 212cc Honda clone, so I’d guess that most parts are compatible, although the valve cover and rocker arms are different than standard Honda clones.

As for fuel conversions being compatible between Champion and Predator, my guess is that it depends on the exact model of Champion 3500 (yes, I call it 3500 because the industry standard is running watts). Clone engines typically all use very similar carbs, but Champion’s remote start version is more complicated.


Thanks for the thoughts
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 9:42:59 PM EST
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Honda eu2200i VS Honda eu2000i Should you upgrade ??
Link Posted: 8/3/2021 7:51:51 PM EST
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Went ahead and got the Predator 3500 because it had a tri-kit conversion available…and now it’s out of stock!

Anyone have a lead?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 7:42:44 AM EST
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I did a quick check of my links and Motor Snorkel seems to have a tri fuel kit available.  Check the link and see if it suits your requirements.

Motor Snorkel TriFuel Kits

The picture did not seem to include the propane regulator needed to get the pressure down to where the low pressure regulator input.  Maybe give them a call to check inventory and discuss that issue?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:46:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By draver:
I did a quick check of my links and Motor Snorkel seems to have a tri fuel kit available.  Check the link and see if it suits your requirements.

Motor Snorkel TriFuel Kits

The picture did not seem to include the propane regulator needed to get the pressure down to where the low pressure regulator input.  Maybe give them a call to check inventory and discuss that issue?
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Man, you’re on the ball!

I appreciate that link. Id heard of…and seen your use of…the Nash fuel kit but didn’t know if there was a solid alternative.

I shot Nash a message yesterday to see if they’d have more come in stock and I’ll check in on your link.

I just got the 3500 yesterday and would like to do the break in with NG so I need to get the conversion ordered.

Thanks again for all your help!
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 10:10:02 AM EST
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Been following off and on since start. I recently got a 4250/3500 duel fuel Champion for RV. Got a couple questions - not sure of covered before.

Is grounding needed or recommended? Never did it before but I actually read the manual on this one.

Is getting the high altitude jets necessary? I will rarely be below 6000 ft elevation. The geny had no issues running the 1500 btu a/c on propane.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 1:38:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zip196:
Been following off and on since start. I recently got a 4250/3500 duel fuel Champion for RV. Got a couple questions - not sure of covered before.

Is grounding needed or recommended? Never did it before but I actually read the manual on this one.

Is getting the high altitude jets necessary? I will rarely be below 6000 ft elevation. The geny had no issues running the 1500 btu a/c on propane.
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I have 3 Champion generators, a 2000W, 3500W and a 4750W and run them in CO at all the altitudes we have to offer. I called Champion and spoke with a tech regarding the HA jets,- he said they would run a little smoother but there really would not be a gain in power, the only thing you would likely notice is a bit better fuel economy but he said it probably wasnt enough to worry about being just for camping use.
Now if you were at altitude constantly in a work situation he felt it would probably be worthwhile.

Ive left mine bone stock.
Link Posted: 8/6/2021 8:19:39 AM EST
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Does anyone have any experience with one of the exhaust extension kits? Link
Basically a 1" high heat hose that clamps to the muffler that you can route to the outside of an enclosed unoccupied structure?

Curious if this would be safe to use on a small screened in porch that is attached to the house.
Link Posted: 8/6/2021 8:47:04 AM EST
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I have 3 Champion generators, a 2000W, 3500W and a 4750W and run them in CO at all the altitudes we have to offer. I called Champion and spoke with a tech regarding the HA jets,- he said they would run a little smoother but there really would not be a gain in power, the only thing you would likely notice is a bit better fuel economy but he said it probably wasnt enough to worry about being just for camping use.
Now if you were at altitude constantly in a work situation he felt it would probably be worthwhile.

Ive left mine bone stock.
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Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/10/2021 1:00:07 PM EST
[#34]
Sams is running a deal on these Westinghouse generators that ends tomorrow.
Link Posted: 8/11/2021 12:27:32 PM EST
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Sams is running a deal on these Westinghouse generators that ends tomorrow.
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Interesting

I like the data center

Link Posted: 8/11/2021 2:19:13 PM EST
[#36]
Thanks!,  Good price for the power output.
Link Posted: 8/11/2021 3:19:59 PM EST
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Not a generator post.  I added this interlock.  Basically the main breaker must be off then it allows you to turn on the two beakers that put 120 volts to each buss bar from the generator.  I'll turn off the breakers for the central AC.  Not running a big generator.  Just enough to power the refrigerator, TV, a few lights, and a small window unit.  Must simpler than adding a transfer switch with all those wires.
Link Posted: 8/11/2021 3:20:23 PM EST
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Does anyone have input on the

Champion Power Equipment 200961 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight


Very interested because of the 34hr claim on propane (20lb) and because propane is easy to store.




edit:  interesting, arfcom screws with the link

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Link Posted: 8/11/2021 3:24:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By theblackcat:
I have the HF 2000 watt inverter generator. Anybody here tried the parallel kit running 2 of these together?
Thinking about getting a second for emergencies and I like the idea of still being portable.

The 2000 Wens are pretty cheap around here @$300 at local pawn shops but I assume I shouldn’t mix brands if running parallel and the Predator has treated me pretty good whenever I needed it.

Looks like I need to comb through this thread.
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@theblackcat

I have a Wen 2000 and Predator 2000.
I have paralleled them several times. No issues and ran a table saw and couple other high draw tools.
Link Posted: 8/11/2021 3:29:58 PM EST
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Does anyone have input on the

Champion Power Equipment 200961 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight


Very interested because of the 34hr claim on propane (20lb) and because propane is easy to store.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81JkXw2xrPL._AC_SL1500_.jpg


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Here's a fellow that did a short post on his blog about it.

Being able to start and run a 13,500 BTU air conditioner with one is no minor feat - That's pushing it REAL hard.
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Thanks!
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Originally Posted By danpass:
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Does anyone have input on the

Champion Power Equipment 200961 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight


Very interested because of the 34hr claim on propane (20lb) and because propane is easy to store.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81JkXw2xrPL._AC_SL1500_.jpg


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not bad if you're powering a single item that doesn't exceed 462 watts like just to keep the fridge cold until the power is back on.  You could extend the running time by only powering for 18 hrs  day.  
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Interesting

I like the data center

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I like it too. I wish my iGen2200’s had it.
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@theblackcat

I have a Wen 2000 and Predator 2000.
I have paralleled them several times. No issues and ran a table saw and couple other high draw tools.
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Originally Posted By theblackcat:
I have the HF 2000 watt inverter generator. Anybody here tried the parallel kit running 2 of these together?
Thinking about getting a second for emergencies and I like the idea of still being portable.

The 2000 Wens are pretty cheap around here @$300 at local pawn shops but I assume I shouldn't mix brands if running parallel and the Predator has treated me pretty good whenever I needed it.

Looks like I need to comb through this thread.


@theblackcat

I have a Wen 2000 and Predator 2000.
I have paralleled them several times. No issues and ran a table saw and couple other high draw tools.

I also run different brand units in parallel without any issues.  I have a Predator 3500 and a 2000W AiPower I almost always run in parallel.  This is my second AiPower and it runs on propane, with the Predator running natgas from the house service.  Connect the parallel cables before starting either one is probably good advice.
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Originally Posted By danpass:
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Does anyone have input on the

Champion Power Equipment 200961 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight


Very interested because of the 34hr claim on propane (20lb) and because propane is easy to store.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81JkXw2xrPL._AC_SL1500_.jpg


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Interested as well, my trailer has an auxiliary propane hook up so that means I wouldn't have to lug a gas can around....
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I am happy with my dual fuel AiPower SUA 2000id that is now only $405 from walmart.com.  I bought mine from Amazon several months ago for $449 and ran it with my predator during an outage with no issues.  I think the warranty is for 2 years.  Pretty decent reviews and so far, so good.

Looks like they also have a dual fuel Champion 2Kw for $499 if that brand is more appealing.

Both show a 90 day return policy in effect.
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Not a generator post.  I added this interlock.  Basically the main breaker must be off then it allows you to turn on the two beakers that put 120 volts to each buss bar from the generator.  I'll turn off the breakers for the central AC.  Not running a big generator.  Just enough to power the refrigerator, TV, a few lights, and a small window unit.  Must simpler than adding a transfer switch with all those wires.
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Well done

Did you do that yourself? or hire an electrician?

Did you have to have a code inspection?

And of course, how much?

Link Posted: 8/12/2021 4:21:35 PM EST
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Hello thread!

So I have a whole home gen and 3 Honda’s, but I’ve been looking for a 1k or so to power some stuff.

Was looking at making it my first HF gen purchase, but it really doesn’t need to be anything special.

Anyone have a good cheap genset that would work? I think one of the tailgaters would be good but now you can’t find one for cheap.
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:

I did mine without asking for permission.
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Originally Posted By Avidrook:

Well done

Did you do that yourself? or hire an electrician?

Did you have to have a code inspection?

And of course, how much?

I did mine without asking for permission.


Brave man

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