That's not something you can fix though, there has been and will always be different economic classes. Such is life.

Me and my wife lived in a 1100 sqft home for our first 7-8 years, most young people today would refuse such a dwelling.

Young people should not rush out and buy homes. Homes reduce economic freedom. I know millennials who moved for much better jobs who took neatly a year to sell their home. Apartment living make sense.

ZFG. College isn’t a right either. Maybe she should have joined the Navy and done the GI bill.

Don't forget all the leftist packed bullshit they have to take as general electives...

Want to laugh?
Go to a college sometime. Look at what is parked in reserved for [school admins name]
Big money euro or Japanese luxury brand.

When I see a Benz. A range rover. A jaguar. A BMW. An Audi. A Lexus. Etc.
I know where tuition money is going.

Then browse the student body. Take note of the dyed hair, faces full of metal, tattoos all over, obese and that funky aroma of disappointment and bad decisions that can best be described as smelling like syphilis feels...

Ahh I don't miss my college days... I kinda do. Mostly don't.

I don't miss being removed by campus cops from lecture halls, for mocking a liberal boomer possible hippy that spit on Vietnam vets when they were my age at the time.
Before "trolling" was a thing, it was called, Antagonizing.
I antagonized many a dyke hair cut boomer woman and fat bald or skinny cardigan/turtle necked sweater wearing 4 eyed point dexter boomer professor.

Fucked up part... those courses were required

If you ever wondered where Robin Hood economists came from. Go right to your highschool and colleges. If you ever wondered where the degeneracy spawned from? Hippy boomers.
Those that can, do. Those that cant, teach.

Alot of the fights began with saying to them
Your emotions are irrelevant. Tell me what you think not what you feel. And then things got sporty.

The best was being called a racist for objecting ACA when that cat herding cunt was all ecstatic over Obama announcing the ACA. that one got me pulled by 2 campus cops. Ahh good times shitting on liberals.

They're all about that free speech and protesting until it counters their narrative.
Then they become rage filled shrieking screaming toddlers in adult bodies who have been reduced to making fools of themselves while they scream you're some type of phobosisticismist.

At least unlike highschool, you can tell those fucks you write their checks and get your schedule/class changed.

As for buying houses...
Easy solution there...

Should have learned trades and how to apply basic highschool geometry with some power tools and buy a fixer upper like I did...
Rather than supporting boomers and their asking of 200k for a house that's realistically worth 85-125k but command 200k because the state says that's what it's worth to justify higher property taxes.

I'm responding to this.
College costs have outpaced the market during my period of interest so much like the old adage on seemingly"logical" short plays, the costs of college can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

Cheap colleges = cheap results unless you’re an Army Officer. If you have a CS degree from MIT or Stanford or from one of the affordable school https://www.bestvalueschools.com/most-affordable-universities-america/who do you think is likely to get hired in Obama's 2009 - 2016 economy? Besides the H-1B techies from India. An option is to go affordable school then eat shit and do an MBA or post grad at Stanford if you can manage it. My Dad dropped out of the University of Texas at Austin after my Mom divorces him and moved to Hollywood and he worked full time while attending George Mason University full time then got a job as an accountant then worked on a MBA while he worked full time eventually becoming VP of the company. I explained the various options to my son last year but his girlfriend picked Berkeley and he wanted to chase her despite my ‘chase $ never chase women’ speech and his Mom is a UC Berkeley alumni, so he had that working for him even though I recommended California Tech or leave the state. His girlfriend dumped him in January He’s a smart kid but only academically. When it comes to life he has a long way to go

It tends to proliferate and reinforce the dumb though. orange man bad.
My sister was finishing up her degree to become a nurse practitioner.
Her professor emailed her and all the other students that she would postpone an exam because the traumatic results of the election and to give everyone time to recuperate over the beginning of the end of democracy.

My sister responded. We are a Constitutional Republic and I wish to take my test as scheduled. I paid to learn and to perform. Not for your political opinions.

Well you can't fix stupid choices just like it's not my problem these adults are going thousands in debt for junk. You are kind of proving my point here

How did she pass

I practically begged my son to go STEM. Took him to NASA, introduced him to engineers I knew in Petaluma. His Mom has Borderline Personality disorder so to my chagrin he picked psychology

Traveling is one thing millennials do enjoy https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Travel-Agent-Issues/Millennials-traveling-and-spending-more-this-summer

This may not be a total loss...
If CA gets their mental health background checks... hook a father up.
Shit he could take a $100 bill and rubber stamp APPROVED freedom acquisition papers.

That's another can of worms. I partially do blame them. Sugar is basically an addictive drug. The food companies know this and use it to their advantage on the unknowing.

I definitely hate on commie professors & just about anything that isn’t STEM or an MBA but I think the thread is more targeted at “millennials who make bad choices” Generation Z has a totally different approach to college, work and saving

Guess she should have signed on the dotted line, did her time, and used the GI Bill instead.

OMG

The Girls I’ve met with degrees in French literature are good in bed so there’s that https://french.columbia.edu/content/undergraduate-studies-french-language-and-literature

As someone that has both STEM and non STEM degrees and also instructs at a CC on the side I can honestly say lots of instructors/professors are not commie. Now those in commie locations such as CA is a different story. Commie locations have a lot of commies, who would have "thunk" it.

So they eat rice and beans, get a second job and focus on the debt.  It's not that hard.

One of my millennial coworkers took on 60K of debt and never graduated so he feels he shouldn’t have to pay back the loans, as if a degree was guaranteed and the school was at fault.

He’s content living at home and being a scumbag.

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I lived in a fire station, ran 40hrs a week with EMS, and signed my life away to Uncle Sam to afford college. You do what you have to. Getting loans and hoping you can pay it off later is what the idiots did. And they’re the ones you read about in these stories.

most people seeking STEM majors these days are from India, Korea, China, Japan....  i've noticed a lack of american's willing to put in the hard work at college that STEM requires

Less and less especially with Generation Z attitude towards college https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/15/hbs-professor-half-of-us-colleges-will-be-bankrupt-in-10-to-15-years.html Attached File

Nearly $200k.

Oh, and she is a lesbian, NPR had to work in how this has affected her AND her girlfriend.

Agree

No one got time for that, those kegs and parties take priority.

True.

But baked into your statement is a HUGE assumption that the only way to get educated is to pay for a college degree to be educated by other people.

Possibly true. I met a woman from Stanford University who was dumb as rocks and I’m being generous. I think a bowl of yougurt could outwit her

Which is exactly what needs to happen.

A young person could do Udemy type classes cheap by paying the annual based subsription for a couple years and be a rock star in some STEM fields. I'm also glad sites like Edx starting to take off which lets folks earn certs and even degrees through prestigious institutions for cheap.

Did I make it before a bunch of people that graduated 20+ years ago that weren't pressured from the bottom with illegal scab labor and pressured at the top competing with the upper .0001 percent from South asian by way of H1Bs. Telling the young to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

One of them from Stanford University is banging my ex wife

Well the Army seems to be dropping a requirement for an undergraduate degree from Sergeant Majors

Take some time and read the degrees earned by Admirals & Generals sometime. It’s almost as amusing as reading craigslist casual sex ads used to be

She got to take her test the day it was scheduled Originally before the election results, but with 2 proctors in a locked room. To ensure no "cheating"
She drove all the way to MA and was not going to stay any longer than necessary. Supposedly, the test was postponed for a week... classes either cancelled or became boohoo sessions after attendance was taken...
Because of her and 2 other students were from out of state, they had to take practical/hands on exams as originally scheduled, there was no weaseling their way out of the hands on test. I guess orange man bad caused many to flunk...

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That's just plain logic and common sense.

Common sense only applies to "gun violence" and other buzzwords and phrases.
Emotions. They operate off the feelz. Feelz > thinking.

Their loans, their problem. It just drives me nuts that people in the media, that went to college and damn well know better, report on this issue in a way that suggests that there are no alternatives. Military, scholarships, part time jobs, working in the summer, for profit online universities, tuition reimbursement from an employer, or just plain less expensive schools. But nooooo, these poor people had NO choice but to spend $200,000 on college and now the rest of us HAVE to "do something". It's bullshit.

I have seen that. Also seen Taiwanese and Chinese friends who duped their parents into thinking they needed 3 college degrees because the economy was bad. Their parents pad for three undergraduate degrees and now these guys want to get a postgrad

If the average is $40K then about 1/2 of the loans are larger than $40K.  I've got a buddy with low six figures in student loans, all from state schools with in-state tuition.  He got an undergraduate degree in criminal justice to work as a parole officer then got a masters degree in education to be a teacher.  He has worked his way into an assistant principle position but six figure loans for assistant principle pay is insane to me.

4 or 5 years?
University of California schools have a  7 year average graduation rate https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/ug-outcomes

I'd guess for those with student loan debt over $100k, who aren't an attorney or MD, the bulk of their debt load was housing expenses.

Yeah, don’t care about their wealth but his friends opinions seem to carry as much weight as my advice so that’s annoying

At my employer, if you are an engineer or scientist, you only need to send an email to HR with a copy of your student loan balance every year and a signed tenure agreement promising to stay three years from that date, for them to pay off $10k of your loan. I've only known one engineer who was denied, and that guy was over 60 with $100k in loans unrelated to engineering so not like he was going anywhere.

If you're not a STEM employee, you have to show a written job offer for more money than you currently make, a statement about the degree being related to your duties, and the copy of your loan balance, then they harshly down-select who gets any money. So barely anyone gets paid out.

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