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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:50:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 36,000 homeless people in LA alone has to be more to it than addiction and mental illness. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:51:55 AM EST
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Don't care about LA, SF or CA. They wanted the sewer love fest let them have at it. Half of Russia don't have flushable toilets, not fixing their problem either. It is a shame CA is going down this path but they will eventually learn Socialism doesn't work and it will be a lesson all Americans will learn from. People are fleeing CA and they aren't the poor either. It is like watching a rotted fish gut itself.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:57:03 AM EST
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If toilets are provided they will just shoot up/sleep/fuck/commit crimes in them. I sorta like the idiot commies that voted for this shit having to deal with it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:58:01 AM EST
[#4]
NY & CA are getting exactly what they deserve. Just sit back & enjoy the show
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:04:18 AM EST
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Perhaps my perception is a bit jaded, and if so, I can accept that... Junkies, vagrants, bums, hobos, street people, et al, (I am not referring to people who are simply without a residence) are no different than stray cats. If you put out food, shelter, and/or other benefits they will stick around. If there is nothing there for them, they will seek better conditions elsewhere.
Seattle, San Francisco not enforcing drug or shoplifting laws are creating perfect conditions to encourage more of those people to stay there committing crimes and eliminating bodily waste on the streets. If they started enforcing laws, they would move on. However, it isn't all the fault of the city...enforcing laws costs money that the voters won't give to the city. It costs money to prosecute and incarcerate people. IF the citizens won't approve tax measures for prosecution and incarceration, the city can't do it for free. Citizens aren't complete idiots though. Citizens know that often, tax measures are padded with things like pay increases for government employees, nicer new offices, etc, when the citizens want the tax money used for other things. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:07:29 AM EST
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No. You don't live in a drug infested bedlam beneath an overpass in a shit covered tent because you are "just plain lazy." You don't even do it because you are crazy; you do it because that's where the drugs you are hopelessly addicted to are, as well as your enablers at the shelter or highway offramp. Another percentage need no intoxicants, they are mentally gone. But the most I have dealt with have been just happy to get their $ from panhandling, no desire to lift themselves up. Try getting one of the young guys to show up for a easy money, come as you are job. They won’t . Why the fuck should they if they can continue living off your handouts. Work is for suckers, right? Quit enabling the lazy fucks. Take care of the mental ones. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:18:57 AM EST
[#7]
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If you don't give them food or money, they tend to shit less and after awhile, not at all.  
I like the way you think. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:19:47 AM EST
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Homeless People Are Without Toilets and Going in the Streets. We Asked the Mayor of LA Why Statistics estimate 36,000 people are homeless in Los Angeles, but the city isn’t providing bathrooms to most of them. As the NBCLA I-Team has found, the tons of human waste landing on city streets are creating an urgent public health threat.
In one act caught on camera, a homeless man is seen waking up on South Hope Street. He unbuckles his belt, walks over to the front door of a business, pulls down his pants, and defecates right on the door mat in broad daylight. *** “My car has been defecated on, not once but twice,” said Mar Vista resident Roman Samiley. *** The public can be at risk because the feces and urine that's now on LA sidewalks could end up on residents' shoes and tracked into homes, and offices, Klausner said. “People’s shoes or clothes can be contaminated. Then they inadvertently touch their shoes, touch their eyes, they touch their mouth,” he said. “We can get gastroenteritis, norovirus.” *** When asked why the city hasn’t provided toilets for the homeless, Mayor Eric Garcetti said there’s simply not enough money. Garcetti admits the lack of toilets is a crisis for his city. *** Garcetti said he might put money in his upcoming city budget for more toilets for the homeless, but wouldn't say how much. While they spend more than a half a billion on illegal immigrant welfare every year. The people of LA get the shithole they voted for. Stop with all the hate mang. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:25:09 AM EST
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You haven't lived until you're in San Fran walking from a multi-million dollar conference to your hotel in a $1500 suit with the executive leadership from your company and right in front of you on the side walk is a homeless guy popping a squat dropping a deuce into a piece of newspaper.
Your brain does weird things trying to process that scenario, trust me. Then again when leaving a meeting from a major LA company in "the good part" of Hollywood waiting for your uber and a homeless guy whips it out right behind you and your coworkers to piss on the building you just walked out of. "California dreaming?" Fuck no, I'll keep my ass in my nice and cozy FREE midwestern "fly-over" State thank you. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:29:57 AM EST
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You put porta-shitters all over the place and (As others have already said) all you'll be doing is providing them with private shooting galleries and hook -up spots. I would imagine that they'd have TP for the first user only as well.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:31:57 AM EST
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Shock collar half of them, and put them to work cleaning up after the other half.
Rotate every month. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:32:00 AM EST
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Why? The simplest explanation is most often the truth, and every one of them seems to reinforce it, as well as history. 40 years ago these were called "bums." And they drank and shit themselves to death on the same streets that the "homeless" of today live on. There are so many totally free options to get off the streets and none of them want to. It's a choice for most, not something imposed on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: 36,000 homeless people in LA alone has to be more to it than addiction and mental illness. The simplest explanation is most often the truth, and every one of them seems to reinforce it, as well as history. 40 years ago these were called "bums." And they drank and shit themselves to death on the same streets that the "homeless" of today live on. There are so many totally free options to get off the streets and none of them want to. It's a choice for most, not something imposed on them. There are also many who will continue to stay homeless regardless, and would probably be well served by being committed to permanent mental health facilities where professionals could work on reprogramming them on a daily basis. Of course the ethics of committing someone against their will are debatable. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:35:18 AM EST
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Every business owner, every resident who discover shit on their property need to take one of those sample envelopes that you use to send fecal samples to the lab, swab the shit on their property, take a photo, then send it to their representative. I have to deal with shit, you have to deal with shit. That and flood their in boxes with photos of the shit. Send it to every mailbox from the janitor to the mayor every single time with a date, time, and place caption.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:36:02 AM EST
[#14]
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Evacuating waste from oneself is as primordial as it gets. Shooting people in the head for relieving themselves is absurd. Finding a place to use a bathroom is no easy task, even in a city full of them. It's complicated I know, however people have solved harder problems in the past. Some homeless are dealing with mental issues some with health issues and more than a few have both. Perhaps if you quit parking your bmw on their cardboard house they might not shit on your hood. Have a bit of compassion, it goes a long way. One night, I went to a nice Sushi place with some friends. On the way back, we had to walk basically in the street because the sidewalk was full of tents and passed out junkies to the point we couldn't walk on it. Still had to dodge shit piles. Finally said "fuck it" and got an Uber for 6 blocks because it was getting dangerous to walk in the street. What's the solution Mr. Compassion? Put up with it? I'm not with Mr. Shoot-em-in-the-head either, but we're not going to compassion our way out of this. The only solutions I see are involuntary comittment/drug treatment followed by incarceration for recidivists. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:38:56 AM EST
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NY & CA are getting exactly what they deserve. Just sit back & enjoy the show We're just the trend setters. 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:43:26 AM EST
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You put porta-shitters all over the place and (As others have already said) all you'll be doing is providing them with private shooting galleries and hook -up spots. I would imagine that they'd have TP for the first user only as well. 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:45:25 AM EST
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So I guess LA is really a shithole.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:46:31 AM EST
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Not sure why the normal residents of LA haven’t marched on city hall with torches and pitchforks, yet. I’m a compassionate guy, but that would all go out the window the first time I found that some bum had shit on the hood of my car. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:48:20 AM EST
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:53:43 AM EST
[#20]
LA and policy is to blame. Another commie dystopia
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:56:07 AM EST
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Evacuating waste from oneself is as primordial as it gets. Shooting people in the head for relieving themselves is absurd. Finding a place to use a bathroom is no easy task, even in a city full of them. It’s complicated I know, however people have solved harder problems in the past. Some homeless are dealing with mental issues some with health issues and more than a few have both. Perhaps if you quit parking your bmw on their cardboard house they might not shit on your hood. Have a bit of compassion, it goes a long way. Or if I was in the grocery store and saw a guy taking a shit on the floor in an aisle in front of my kids I'd lose my mind. People need to stop saying this is understandable behavior. Mental illness has been here since time began and yet I've never read of people in the 50's going to the five and dime and shitting in the aisle or on the sidewalk. Firehose them and they'd get the point real quick, crazy or not. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:03:48 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s one of my few criticisms of Reagan. He defunded mental health services and emptied out psych facilities. One of my girlfriends lived up the street from a mental hospital in Foxboro, MA and when it closed, they just kicked all the patients out onto the street. She woke up to some guy in a gown pissing right outside her window and three more sleeping in the yard. Once again, a current problem has its roots in the 60's. The decade that keeps on giving: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act The CMHA provided grants to states for the establishment of local mental health centers, under the overview of the National Institute of Mental Health. The NIH also conducted a study involving adequacy in mental health issues. The purpose of the CMHA was to build mental health centers to provide for community-based care, as an alternative to institutionalization. At the centers, patients could be treated while working and living at home. Only half of the proposed centers were ever built; none were fully funded, and the act didn't provide money to operate them long-term. Some states saw an opportunity to close expensive state hospitals without spending some of the money on community-based care. Deinstitutionalization accelerated after the adoption of Medicaid in 1965. During the Reagan administration, the remaining funding for the act was converted into a mental-health block grant for states. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:04:13 PM EST
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It's where the easiest drugs, most lax police enforcement, and most "compassionate" guilty limousine libs are. That's why they congregate there from all over the country. These aren't complicated people; they're fallen addicts or self-medicating headcases (or both), almost exclusively. The actual redeemable homeless don't stay that way for long, even without assistance. They find something to do for income after a couple weeks, and find a crummy place they can afford to rent a few weeks after that, and find a greener pasture to move to a month or so later. Happens every day, all over. It sucks for them, and it would be nice if we could all express our misplaced guilt by helping them through it, but since those good folks are such a minority all we end up doing is subsidizing inhuman behavior and suicidal decisions. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:18:14 PM EST
[#24]
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So if I understand the politics behind the homeless problem correctly, the democrats think if they are nice/easy going to the homeless then the homeless will vote for them. Do they honestly think that someone who spends their days pissing and shitting on the sides of buildings and vehicles has the mental focus to go register to vote and then actually vote in elections? The fanatical leftist city officials use them as a means to bash republicans ("living" wage, "fair" housing, criminal coddling, etc) and strongarm the state and feds for more loot. They're just props in their quest for more and more control. At least the junkies are too constipated to pinch off a loaf while tooling down the avenue. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:07:17 PM EST
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Really? Have you *been* to San Fran recently? I was there for a conference in August. During that time I had to dodge 87 turds and/or needles a day on the sidewalk (honestly, I didn't count, but you have to watch where you step.) I saw a man shitting on the sidewalk at 7AM on a Friday. I saw a man standing at a cross-walk screaming "whore", "slut" and "cunt" at every woman who walked by, inches from their face. Two cops stood by and watched. When asked about it, they said they couldn't do shit unless he touched someone. One night, I went to a nice Sushi place with some friends. On the way back, we had to walk basically in the street because the sidewalk was full of tents and passed out junkies to the point we couldn't walk on it. Still had to dodge shit piles. Finally said "fuck it" and got an Uber for 6 blocks because it was getting dangerous to walk in the street. What's the solution Mr. Compassion? Put up with it? I'm not with Mr. Shoot-em-in-the-head either, but we're not going to compassion our way out of this. The only solutions I see are involuntary comittment/drug treatment followed by incarceration for recidivists. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Evacuating waste from oneself is as primordial as it gets. Shooting people in the head for relieving themselves is absurd. Finding a place to use a bathroom is no easy task, even in a city full of them. It's complicated I know, however people have solved harder problems in the past. Some homeless are dealing with mental issues some with health issues and more than a few have both. Perhaps if you quit parking your bmw on their cardboard house they might not shit on your hood. Have a bit of compassion, it goes a long way. One night, I went to a nice Sushi place with some friends. On the way back, we had to walk basically in the street because the sidewalk was full of tents and passed out junkies to the point we couldn't walk on it. Still had to dodge shit piles. Finally said "fuck it" and got an Uber for 6 blocks because it was getting dangerous to walk in the street. What's the solution Mr. Compassion? Put up with it? I'm not with Mr. Shoot-em-in-the-head either, but we're not going to compassion our way out of this. The only solutions I see are involuntary comittment/drug treatment followed by incarceration for recidivists. My personal solution has been to live on 20 acres in central Ohio. I avoid cities like the plague. Oh there is still lots of poop here, raccoon, squirrel, deer, birds, skunks, opossum, fox, mink, feral cats, coyotes, rabbits, fish etc. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:18:40 PM EST
[#26]
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It’s a damn shame we don’t have a viable mental health system in America. Most of these homeless would be best served locked away from society in a institution. We’ve lost true compassion because we might hurt someone’s feelings. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:52:10 PM EST
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If they only wanted to work
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Posted: 2/21/2020 2:23:39 PM EST
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A portable is good for ten people for 40 hrs each, as in 10 full time workers for one week. It would cost tens of thousands a day to service enough toilets for 36,000 people for 168 hour weeks, possibly more. A honeysucker can service about 25 toilets in a half day, or six hours, the other 2 are driving to the toilet and back to the treatment plant. It takes around 15 minutes to service a toilet. Suck the tank 8 minutes, swab the interior, spray with deodis, fill the tank with water and a blue tab, fill the TP and the handysan. 4-5 an hour. That's one truck and normally used toilets on a construction site or outdoor event. The city would literally have to create an entire division of toilets with a staff of hundreds to even begin. There probably are not enough porta rental places in LA to farm it out.
BTW, one new porta is ~$650 new from Satellite Industries. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 3:57:11 PM EST
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This is happening in Austin, TX right now, due to Mayor Alder's policy of NOT enforcing any of the vagrancy or camping laws. It's getting worse by the day.
I know people in Austin and make no mistake - the overwhelming majority of these "homeless" people are not mentally ill. They're just perfectly comfortable living in a tent, not working, and not paying a dime of any taxes. They need to go. CMOS |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 5:03:39 PM EST
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When the governing leadership has zero pride in their city and zero respect for their residents, this is what happens. Allowing that many homeless to overrun your city is inexcusable.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 5:18:03 PM EST
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The Prophet known as Sam Kineson had the answer to this decades ago ....
 Sam Kinison - The Homeless |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 5:41:30 PM EST
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This is what is going to happen,
When the corn hole virus becomes a Pandemic and hits the West coast, all these so called vagrants are going to turn into vectors. My understanding is that the virus is spread from fecal matter as well as coughing and touch. The homeless on the West coast love to shit and piss everywhere downtown near business centers and tourist areas, and they will spread the virus, since hygiene is bourgeois for them. It will get out of control pretty fucking quick, when BLAMO! You see the feds swoop in in haz mat suits like batman and round up all these homeless vagrants and put them into "quarantine camps" for everyone's safety. And FEMA will be running these camps, which they have already started to set up on the West coast in isolated areas on federal land. And Martial Law will be enacted at this time in these "Blue states". And a lot of "homeless" people will disappear and never be heard of again.... The End.. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 5:45:39 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 36,000 homeless people in LA alone has to be more to it than addiction and mental illness.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 6:05:27 PM EST
[#34]
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If toilets are provided they will just shoot up/sleep/fuck/commit crimes in them. I sorta like the idiot commies that voted for this shit having to deal with it. Things got a little better when you had to pay $.50 to use them. It does suck being on foot in a large city and having nowhere to piss. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 8:29:48 PM EST
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There has to be a compassionate solution to homelessness. The number of people we are talking about is small in all reality.
The mentally ill ones need institutionalization and treatment. The addicts need different types of institutionalization and treatment. People that are just down on their luck need realistic housing and support to get them back on their feet. Anyone else that doesn’t want to go to treatment, put them in prison for vagrancy. Clean house at the prisons too. See. Simple. Not heartless. Reduce crime dramatically. |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 10:10:23 AM EST
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NY & CA are getting exactly what they asked for 
Just sit back & enjoy the show |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 10:18:06 AM EST
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Don't care about LA, SF or CA. They wanted the sewer love fest let them have at it. Half of Russia don't have flushable toilets, not fixing their problem either. It is a shame CA is going down this path but they will eventually learn Socialism doesn't work and it will be a lesson all Americans will learn from. People are fleeing CA and they aren't the poor either. It is like watching a rotted fish gut itself. |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 10:21:39 AM EST
[#38]
Cloward Piven
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Posted: 2/22/2020 10:31:38 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
When the governing leadership has zero pride in their city and zero respect for their residents, this is what happens. Allowing that many homeless to overrun your city is inexcusable. |
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