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Posted: 8/8/2020 10:31:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flysc: I ran across a Youtube video of a Glock manufactured disposible silencer. Apparently, it is sold by Glock to countries outside of the US. It is also polymer. Because it's perfectly sufficient. The material used for a silencer isn't going to make it louder or quieter, outside of taking up more or less internal space based on the properties of the material. Now, the lifetime of a printed can vs that of an injection molded one is another question. There are some pictures out there or 223 and 9mm baffles made of PLA out there, although the tube was probably metal. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 10:36:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redarts: Because it's perfectly sufficient. The material used for a silencer isn't going to make it louder or quieter, outside of taking up more or less internal space based on the properties of the material. Now, the lifetime of a printed can vs that of an injection molded one is another question. There are some pictures out there or 223 and 9mm baffles made of PLA out there, although the tube was probably metal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redarts: Originally Posted By Flysc: I ran across a Youtube video of a Glock manufactured disposible silencer. Apparently, it is sold by Glock to countries outside of the US. It is also polymer. Because it's perfectly sufficient. The material used for a silencer isn't going to make it louder or quieter, outside of taking up more or less internal space based on the properties of the material. Now, the lifetime of a printed can vs that of an injection molded one is another question. There are some pictures out there or 223 and 9mm baffles made of PLA out there, although the tube was probably metal. Nonsense. Arfcom assures me that if your silencer isn't made of Inconel, Neutron Star Alloy, and dragon farts, it might as well be a cardboard tube. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 10:51:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LuckyDucky: $200 stamp disposable. But who's going to know if it is reprinted with the same serial?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LuckyDucky: Originally Posted By Willmar: I think the gist is, due to material costs, it's essentially disposable. I could be wrong, though. $200 stamp disposable. But who's going to know if it is reprinted with the same serial? Maje it in 2 parts, Make the threaded barrel Attachment serialized, then a disposable can portion sort of like the q erector being so modular with only one small section setialized |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 10:52:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: CTM1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flysc: I ran across a Youtube video of a Glock manufactured disposible silencer. Apparently, it is sold by Glock to countries outside of the US. It is also polymer. Vid by Rob Pincus (if I recall GD hates him). I thought the mount was super cool and wonder why such a mounting system that is so simple is not available here.  Glock Tactical Suppressor |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 10:54:22 AM EST
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:17:57 AM EST
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Quote HistorySo you it interest is on the way down?  Awesome thread, thanks! |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:22:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Nonsense. Arfcom assures me that if your silencer isn't made of Inconel, Neutron Star Alloy, and dragon farts, it might as well be a cardboard tube. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Originally Posted By Redarts: Originally Posted By Flysc: I ran across a Youtube video of a Glock manufactured disposible silencer. Apparently, it is sold by Glock to countries outside of the US. It is also polymer. Because it's perfectly sufficient. The material used for a silencer isn't going to make it louder or quieter, outside of taking up more or less internal space based on the properties of the material. Now, the lifetime of a printed can vs that of an injection molded one is another question. There are some pictures out there or 223 and 9mm baffles made of PLA out there, although the tube was probably metal. Nonsense. Arfcom assures me that if your silencer isn't made of Inconel, Neutron Star Alloy, and dragon farts, it might as well be a cardboard tube. My thought was something very similar to OPs original design - 3d print in one piece, then I'd planned to use an aluminum thread insert because that the material I have on hand and I'm confident to thread it myself. An alternative would be a two piece, with a monocore baffle stack that threads into the tube, and the aluminum muzzle thread insert on that monocore stack as well. Dunno, just thinking out loud. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:32:09 AM EST
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I printed a pipe fitting and an intake muffler for my HF compressor out of nylon. They've been on the compressor for around a year, run several times a week and other than being a bit dirty, are still there and holding up fine. I doubt a 22 semi auto pistol is going to be much harder on a silencer than a HF compressor will be on it's intake muffler. What's more, the compressor muffler prints in two parts and is glued together.
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:34:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGE: I've been thinking a lot about this lately myself, esp with the printed lower turning out so nicely, among other pieces. I've though that slow fire on a longer barrel 22lr with subsonic rounds miiight work for a while. I've got ABS, PLA, pla+, and PETG on hand. Along with a lathe to turn a perfect sized bore rod... Have you tried annealing htpla? If so, do you have a brand you'd recommend? Asking for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGE: Originally Posted By Overkill777: Originally Posted By billth777: Originally Posted By Overkill777: Great now people are going to be arguing with 3 year old posts. This thread gives me an idea..... share with the class. Edit. Nevermind. I don't advocate this. When it gets too much lead in it just toss it and print a new monocore. My understanding is a form 1 can be repaired by the maker. This would eliminate the cleaning process for a 22 suppressor which sucks ass. On a bolt action 22 it should last a long time. You could print it in ABS, I just prefer HTPLA. Its easier to print, stronger, and when annealed almost as high heat distortion temp. I've though that slow fire on a longer barrel 22lr with subsonic rounds miiight work for a while. I've got ABS, PLA, pla+, and PETG on hand. Along with a lathe to turn a perfect sized bore rod... Have you tried annealing htpla? If so, do you have a brand you'd recommend? Asking for me. I like Fusion Filament HTPLA+ and 3D Fuel Pro PLA. Both are made in the USA and are made out of 3D870 PLA resin. My impression is that I like the Fusion a little better but I have not done enough testing to prove it. I like how 3Dfuel posts material specs on their website. Both are very high quality, noticeably better than Chinese made filaments and worth the extra money. PS for PETG I like Atomic filament, also very high quality and made in the USA. They have an interesting carbon fiber PETG I intend to try soon. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:44:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Nonsense. Arfcom assures me that if your silencer isn't made of Inconel, Neutron Star Alloy, and dragon farts, it might as well be a cardboard tube. Nah. Arfcom says if you're going to pay a $200 tax you might as well get a suppressor that will last a lifetime. 22LR suppressors are usually made out of durable materials due to the cleaning that is required. 22LR ammo causes them to eventually fill up with lead fouling that is a massive bitch to get off. Weaker material may get damaged from cleaning. That does not mean that a weaker material will not suppress. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:48:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: A solid .22 suppressor...... cleaning must not be an option  disposable |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 11:54:11 AM EST
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Awesome work OP. How do you think it will hold up long term? I'm getting into 3D soon. I'm told some filament can be almost as strong as mild steel.
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Posted: 8/8/2020 12:00:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loon_138: So you it interest is on the way down? Awesome thread, thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loon_138: So you it interest is on the way down? Awesome thread, thanks! Dang it.  
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Posted: 8/8/2020 12:00:15 PM EST
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Just saw this. Very neat.
Now someone needs to print using these new 304 filament. Getting it sintered or HIPped after the print could be problematic |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 12:27:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overkill777: I like Fusion Filament HTPLA+ and 3D Fuel Pro PLA. Both are made in the USA and are made out of 3D870 PLA resin. My impression is that I like the Fusion a little better but I have not done enough testing to prove it. I like how 3Dfuel posts material specs on their website. Both are very high quality, noticeably better than Chinese made filaments and worth the extra money. PS for PETG I like Atomic filament, also very high quality and made in the USA. They have an interesting carbon fiber PETG I intend to try soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overkill777: Originally Posted By TGE: Originally Posted By Overkill777: Originally Posted By billth777: Originally Posted By Overkill777: Great now people are going to be arguing with 3 year old posts. This thread gives me an idea..... share with the class. Edit. Nevermind. I don't advocate this. When it gets too much lead in it just toss it and print a new monocore. My understanding is a form 1 can be repaired by the maker. This would eliminate the cleaning process for a 22 suppressor which sucks ass. On a bolt action 22 it should last a long time. You could print it in ABS, I just prefer HTPLA. Its easier to print, stronger, and when annealed almost as high heat distortion temp. I've though that slow fire on a longer barrel 22lr with subsonic rounds miiight work for a while. I've got ABS, PLA, pla+, and PETG on hand. Along with a lathe to turn a perfect sized bore rod... Have you tried annealing htpla? If so, do you have a brand you'd recommend? Asking for me. I like Fusion Filament HTPLA+ and 3D Fuel Pro PLA. Both are made in the USA and are made out of 3D870 PLA resin. My impression is that I like the Fusion a little better but I have not done enough testing to prove it. I like how 3Dfuel posts material specs on their website. Both are very high quality, noticeably better than Chinese made filaments and worth the extra money. PS for PETG I like Atomic filament, also very high quality and made in the USA. They have an interesting carbon fiber PETG I intend to try soon. Cool, thank you, I'll check those out. I've gone over to Atomic for everything lately. Their black PLA+ is excellent. I had some issues with my last roll of black PETG, called em up and they got me a new roll lined up. Good CS and like you said, made in the USA. With an actual American who picks up the phone when you call. I'm a fan. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 12:32:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: It is completely disposable, which is an awesome idea. I like it. I would also be curious of the heating and cooling of the plastic would cause the lead and residue to flake off and just shake out the holes. If only there wasn't a 1 year wait and $200 to go along with it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By Willmar: I think the gist is, due to material costs, it's essentially disposable. I could be wrong, though. It is completely disposable, which is an awesome idea. I like it. I would also be curious of the heating and cooling of the plastic would cause the lead and residue to flake off and just shake out the holes. If only there wasn't a 1 year wait and $200 to go along with it. My eform 1 only took 17 days. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 1:02:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: M16A4]
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Also OP, that's frigging cool.
Im what do you think of, making a threaded on portion of tube (from aluminum), with no baffles that's just like a 1/2", with threads to thread on the printed portion? Rather than your brass thread adapter. |
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Posted: 8/8/2020 10:33:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Just saw this. Very neat. Now someone needs to print using these new 304 filament. Getting it sintered or HIPped after the print could be problematic I have a lot to learn about filament. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 8:52:39 AM EST
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https://www.matterhackers.com/store/l/basf-ultrafuse-316l-metal-composite-3d-printing-filament-175mm/sk/MRDKJRRS?rcode=BING&msclkid=59fd463dd9e112a0f90d191226d58a8e
You’d also have to account for shrinkage during sintering. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 9:44:07 AM EST
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This is an awesome thread!
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