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Originally Posted By bigbore: Anyone working in any service knows a customer saying "all you need to do" is never all you need to do. I opened the box and saw a complete upper and sent the email. If he would have said, it's just hand tight, I would have done it for free. But at this point no, I'm not even going to try. Also, this note was in his box. Our gas block pinning fixture indexes off the barrel index pin. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20241107_103907-3372365.jpg View Quote Yeah that's a little different. It sounds like he's not doing this build in the right order. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: This dude will be e-mailing me all day.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/eatshipping-3372439.jpg View Quote Send him a bill for your time, for dealing with this bs. DOIT.gif |
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"Some people talk about doing what others have actually done." -my teenage son
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At least he didn’t put down “credit card gap”.
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Not a Tennessee Squire
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Anyone who still uses Yahoo is automatically disqualified as a sensible adult.
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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I've sent you several uppers and never had any issues.
"Anyone working in any service knows a customer saying "all you need to do" is never all you need to do." I get that a lot at work too. "It's shouldn't be that hard" Do it your fucking self then. |
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"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
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This guy is a total idiot. You’re better off not doing any work for him because who knows what else he would come back with as a complaint.
It’s been several years since I looked at your website, but I clearly remember seeing that there is a disassembly charge if a complete upper is sent. It’s very clear. |
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I'd say you're 100% in the right. That said, miscommunications happen. I'm not saying you should eat it, and he should not be a dick when you clarified your policy. I'd say a good will gesture would go a mile, but these days, taking the high road with random people on the internet never ends well. Life is too short to suffer fools.
Return it and fire him as a customer. |
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Originally Posted By ag04blast: Your directions need to be more clear, they are too difficult to understand. "All you need to send is the barrel and gas block." That is definitely not clear enough. I dont know if I need to include the upper receiver, a pair of mismatched socks, a half eaten ham sandwich. I cannot figure this out. Your business is terrible! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ag04blast: Originally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By Progun1911: Screen name ? No idea, but he's probably mother fucking me on Reddit by now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/aamore-3372376.jpg Your directions need to be more clear, they are too difficult to understand. "All you need to send is the barrel and gas block." That is definitely not clear enough. I dont know if I need to include the upper receiver, a pair of mismatched socks, a half eaten ham sandwich. I cannot figure this out. Your business is terrible! How about “You must send only the barrel & gas block or add dis-assembly fees with order.” I’ve used Adco. Directions were clear enough. But if my job wasn’t a bright line case I’d have sent an e-mail seeking clarification before assuming made me an ass. ETA: a yahoo email, lol. |
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I'd be firing them. I'm not even remotely customer facing, but fired a customer today that was an asshat to coworkers.
@bigbore I keep meaning to drive over and spend some money in your retail shop, I kinda wanted to buy a gun anyway, just to celebrate the election, etc. Your online inventory shows zero stock on any actual firearms? Its completely fine if you don't keep a running real time inventory of them, buts its confusing from the website. |
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Originally Posted By p3590: I'd be firing them. I'm not even remotely customer facing, but fired a customer today that was an asshat to coworkers. @bigbore I keep meaning to drive over and spend some money in your retail shop, I kinda wanted to buy a gun anyway, just to celebrate the election, etc. Your online inventory shows zero stock on any actual firearms? Its completely fine if you don't keep a running real time inventory of them, buts its confusing from the website. View Quote Working on that, I have plenty of firearms in stock. Email me what you're looking for and I'll let you know availability. [email protected] |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Did you lose a customer?
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya: So the guy sent the upper assembled but nothing was tightened? If it were my business I'd have just pinned it and sent it back. I assume the disassmbly/reassemble charge is for having to mount it in a vise, get out tools use anti-seize, torque the barrel nut, provide new crush washer etc. If all you need to do is spin the barrel nut and muzzle device off by hand, I don't think that really qualifies as "disassembly". I agree 100% the guy can't read and follow instructions though, but it's not a hill I would die on. View Quote |
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Life member of CRPA. FPC contributor.
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no, your customer is regarded
i've sent a few uppers and knew when to select disassembly/reassembly 10+ years ago, it's as clear as day |
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Originally Posted By HamonRye: The yahoo email address should have been a red flag from the start. @yahoo and @aol users are always more difficult to deal with. View Quote well then where the fuck do you get your latest News, Politics, Sports, Celebrity, Animals, Fitness, Medicare articles and Electric Mailing services bundled up into one convenient browsing platform? |
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Maybe because both his girls lost.
Seriously there a plenty of idiot/@ssholes out there. I just bought a suppressor from my local shop because the guy who had them special order it (and another can) did not feel he should have to pay for the $200 tax stamps to transfer them to him. Good news is I got a CGS Mod 9 for $50 over their cost. |
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Originally Posted By triode: Maybe because both his girls lost. Seriously there a plenty of idiot/@ssholes out there. I just bought a suppressor from my local shop because the guy who had them special order it (and another can) did not feel he should have to pay for the $200 tax stamps to transfer them to him. Good news is I got a CGS Mod 9 for $50 over their cost. View Quote More and more, any communication is treated as a social media post. There is no such a thing as dialog anymore. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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I have a really hard time relating to dudes that are wired like that.
What an weird (and needlessly complicated and drama-filled) way to go through life. |
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And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
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"Want to bet a case of PMAGS on it?"
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ive used your service a few times. Its pretty clear that if its not taken apart then order the service.
Some people are just fucking difficult. |
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“I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable. Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.”
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If the owner of a business tells me to do something I'm not going to argue with him if I want to continue doing business with his company.
Really weird. I think customers need to be fired more often so that it becomes a possibility in their mind when they deal with a business. |
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Screw that guy. Bought one of my AR's from you.
Top notch service and great people. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: I don't agree with this take. Disassembly is dissasembly, and that's a fee. Furthermore, if Steve dissasembles it and then returns it in the same manner it was sent to him, what happens to Steve's liability as a professional gunsmith when that dipshit doesn't put everything back together right and he loses an eye when it blows up on him? No, it comes fully disassembled and sent back that way, or it comes fully assembled, Steve disassembles it for a fee, and it goes back to the customer fully and properly assembled. View Quote This is the correct answer. All or nothing. Not half way taken apart with a caveat. |
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“I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable. Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.”
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Originally Posted By cj3waker: I'm assuming you need to take the barrel off the upper to do the work you're going to do Is the barrel bedded to the upper where it would take a bunch of work to get off, or will it just pull out like a normal barrel? if you could pull the gas block off the barrel and the barrel off the upper using just your hands I'd consider it disassembled and I'd consider you the asshole, if that's not the case - then yes he's the asshole. View Quote I’d say that having to take shit apart is worth a minimum hour charge for shop time. |
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Everything was loose and just needed to be unthreaded by hand, no tools or vice needed?
You're the asshole. If it needed actual effort and tools, then he's the asshole. |
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why, oh why GOD WAS I BORN IN CALIFORNIA..
AK, USA
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Originally Posted By akethan: I've sent you several uppers and never had any issues. "Anyone working in any service knows a customer saying "all you need to do" is never all you need to do." I get that a lot at work too. "It's shouldn't be that hard" Do it your fucking self then. View Quote I've handed someone my tools before |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: As posted on Page 1, the barrel is literally glued into the receiver and the barrel nut is tight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20241107_103907-3372365.jpg View Quote Lol, he's the asshole. |
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Originally Posted By Tao: Lol, he's the asshole. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tao: Originally Posted By bigbore: As posted on Page 1, the barrel is literally glued into the receiver and the barrel nut is tight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20241107_103907-3372365.jpg Lol, he's the asshole. Yeah, he's a flipping maroon. (That's Bugs Bunny talk for "moron") |
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"All planes close up tight . . .we'll have to ditch unless landfall . . .when the first plane drops below 10 gallons, we all go down together."
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Is bedding a barrel into an upper really a thing?
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Libertatis!
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: This dude will be e-mailing me all day.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/eatshipping-3372439.jpg View Quote My response: Shut Up Bitch (The Rock) |
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Bigger than France. "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." --RWR, 1964 |
What's his board name?
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The customer is not always right
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Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!
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Libertatis!
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I would've been pissed that it was going to cost an extra $40 or $80 but it would've been directed at myself for not fully reading the description.
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Originally Posted By bigbore: As posted on Page 1, the barrel is literally glued into the receiver and the barrel nut is tight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20241107_103907-3372365.jpg View Quote ahaha gotcha, that's what I was trying to clarify. In that case yeah he's a dumb dumb |
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bedded
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Customer is a prick.
Rub your balls across his upper and barrel, then maybe fart in the return shipping box and tape it up really fast. |
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