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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:49:48 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes!
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:53:25 AM EDT
[#2]
When I first saw a new Crosstrek in Wilderness trim, I immediately thought of it as a reincarnated AMC Eagle.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:53:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make sure you don't drive it through mud. Go to 10:20.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOqgSvx5rjwA toxic stew of street tires and a soy boy. Stuck every time. Has nothing to do with the make and model. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:55:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Subaru is dangerously under powered. My aunt has a legacy which makes my 38 year old mini truck look fast. It's so slow I am nervous to get on to a highway with it. There is no way it makes it to highway speeds on an on ramp and no way it can accelerate out of trouble. LOL. Get in my factory stock 2010 Forester XT (turbo). You will retract that statement. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:56:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like. Mainly for looks. Would be a great mtn west road vehicle. I had a 201z Outback. Without a doubt the best mountain west vehicle I’ve ever had. I gifted it to my niece. She loves that damn thing. Honestly at times I wish I had bought another one instead of my Ranger. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:00:36 AM EDT
[#6]
Friend has one with the automatic. Cool little car, not very fast though.
We rented a Forrester a few weeks ago for drive up to Tennessee. It was pretty nice. It was faster than my friends car. Lots of safety features. Decent little SUVs. Side note, I've been wanting a WRX for a while. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:01:20 AM EDT
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I’ve seen older Kia Sorentos lifted with a/t tires.
I have a Sorento, v6 awd, and lifting it has crossed my mind. I’ve seen the lifted AWD Subarus and you don’t have to explain them to me; the traction:weight:affordability ratios speak for themselves. I just wish they had actual 4wd systems with hi/lo Xcases. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:02:06 AM EDT
[#8]
Had never in my 57 years considered a Subaru, but I really love my '23 Forester Wilderness. Just hit 15K on it. Perfect little rig for everything I like to do.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:03:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. Get in my factory stock 2010 Forester XT (turbo). You will retract that statement. Also drive a TurboFoz. Power isn’t an issue. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:06:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve seen older Kia Sorentos lifted with a/t tires. I have a Sorento, v6 awd, and lifting it has crossed my mind. I’ve seen the lifted AWD Subarus and you don’t have to explain them to me; the traction:weight:affordability ratios speak for themselves. I just wish they had actual 4wd systems with hi/lo Xcases. I almost bought an older Sorento last year to use as a beater based solely on the fact that it was a little SUV with a true (2-speed) 4x4 drivetrain and a solid rear axle. I passed because I wasn’t so sure about dropping the coin on a Kia. 
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:12:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I almost bought an older Sorento last year to use as a beater based solely on the fact that it was a little SUV with a true (2-speed) 4x4 drivetrain and a solid rear axle. I passed because I wasn’t so sure about dropping the coin on a Kia. I was skeptical when we bought ours. It’s been as reliable as a Swiss watch. 2012 v6 awd. Zero problems in 230(?)k miles. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:25:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. Get in my factory stock 2010 Forester XT (turbo). You will retract that statement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Subaru is dangerously under powered. My aunt has a legacy which makes my 38 year old mini truck look fast. It's so slow I am nervous to get on to a highway with it. There is no way it makes it to highway speeds on an on ramp and no way it can accelerate out of trouble. LOL. Get in my factory stock 2010 Forester XT (turbo). You will retract that statement. Yeah my Wilderness has the turbo too, it rocks. Standard models do feel anemic, but once you learn them you can drive them better. Paddle shifters for example, can add a lot but nobody ever uses them. Or if you drive around in Eco mode, yeah no shit it's a dog. I had a Forester with Sport mode for a bit and that had a lot of pep too. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:47:58 AM EDT
[#13]
This is ultimately what I'd like to get to.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:53:06 AM EDT
[#14]
On my 4th Subaru, OP. I had a ‘15 Crosstrek, it was a great car. Wonderful for city driving.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:58:10 AM EDT
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People who associate an inanimate object like a car with sexuality are as fucking stupid and annoying as the ones who say you're compensating for a little dick because you're a gun owner.
Stop. It's retarded and you're embarrassing yourself. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 8:59:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah my Wilderness has the turbo too, it rocks. Standard models do feel anemic, but once you learn them you can drive them better. Paddle shifters for example, can add a lot but nobody ever uses them. Or if you drive around in Eco mode, yeah no shit it's a dog. I had a Forester with Sport mode for a bit and that had a lot of pep too. The only caveat I'd add on the subject of power here: I, living in the east, tend to downplay the importance of power. But now that I've been out west a few times and experienced a typical street vehicle gradually losing power as we went from <1000' to >11000' in elevation, I have came to grasp that you need power, in spades, at eastern elevations, in order to do well 'in the mountains'. There's no way around it, power is a byproduct of combustion and combustion requires oxygen and there's less of it at higher elevations, so you better have more power than you think you need. The rule of 3% loss per 1000' is real, not just theoretical. So at sea level you really need 50% more power than you think you 'need', if you want to be properly equipped for the west. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:03:13 AM EDT
[#17]
It’s all good until the pickle surprise.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:03:34 AM EDT
[#18]
I was always bummed they never put the 2.5l and 6 speed in the crosstrek. That thing would be the tits. I've got that in my '17 Forrester and the lighter weight/size of the crosstrek would be a hoot. One of my friends has the sport with the 2.5l/cvt and he is pretty happy with it though in colorado.
I just wish they'd put a wrx drivetrain, even a detuned one in the crosstrek. That thing would sell like gangbusters. Also pissed they don't put the turbo engine in the Forester wilderness either. I prefer the bigger greenhouse and shorter wheelbase of the Forrester to the Outback. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:07:30 AM EDT
[#19]
If I won the lottery I would throw the WRX engine and transmission into the Crosstrek and tune it to make a modern 2004-2008 Forester XT and I would love it
However even as is I love my 23 Manual crosstrek |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:14:23 AM EDT
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They still have retardo traction control, make sure you can "turn it off" and it actually can be turned off. Now a days mfg's have you turn it off only to have it actually tone down the TC a little, not much help.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:17:03 AM EDT
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I have a 2018 one.
when it comes time to replace the suspension, I'm lifting it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:25:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They still have retardo traction control, make sure you can "turn it off" and it actually can be turned off. Now a days mfg's have you turn it off only to have it actually tone down the TC a little, not much help. I always thought it was interesting that on my AWD/4WD 3rd gen Rav4, there is no button to turn TC off. But there is a weird little thing you can do with the brake/handbrake to manually turn it off. With handbrake on, pump brake pedal twice (then release handbrake) Hold down brake pedal, pump handbrake twice (then release brake pedal) With handbrake on, pump brake pedal twice (then release handbrake) But no button. My wife has the FWD version, same generation, it has a button.... Wonder how many other manufacturers have a feature like this where there is no obvious way to turn TC off. I would get a cross trek in Manual if it had more power. I have a hard time getting rid of my rav4 v6, because finding another naturally aspirated small SUV with a locking differential and 270HP is tricky (no I don't want a jeep) |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:36:59 AM EDT
[#23]
 I'd go with a Porsche. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:37:44 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only caveat I'd add on the subject of power here: I, living in the east, tend to downplay the importance of power. But now that I've been out west a few times and experienced a typical street vehicle gradually losing power as we went from <1000' to >11000' in elevation, I have came to grasp that you need power, in spades, at eastern elevations, in order to do well 'in the mountains'. There's no way around it, power is a byproduct of combustion and combustion requires oxygen and there's less of it at higher elevations, so you better have more power than you think you need. The rule of 3% loss per 1000' is real, not just theoretical. So at sea level you really need 50% more power than you think you 'need', if you want to be properly equipped for the west. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah my Wilderness has the turbo too, it rocks. Standard models do feel anemic, but once you learn them you can drive them better. Paddle shifters for example, can add a lot but nobody ever uses them. Or if you drive around in Eco mode, yeah no shit it's a dog. I had a Forester with Sport mode for a bit and that had a lot of pep too. The only caveat I'd add on the subject of power here: I, living in the east, tend to downplay the importance of power. But now that I've been out west a few times and experienced a typical street vehicle gradually losing power as we went from <1000' to >11000' in elevation, I have came to grasp that you need power, in spades, at eastern elevations, in order to do well 'in the mountains'. There's no way around it, power is a byproduct of combustion and combustion requires oxygen and there's less of it at higher elevations, so you better have more power than you think you need. The rule of 3% loss per 1000' is real, not just theoretical. So at sea level you really need 50% more power than you think you 'need', if you want to be properly equipped for the west. I found it weird that when I got out west the gas was lower octane, which seems to me like it would compound that problem. Maybe I'm wrong? This was in New Mexico, and admittedly it was 20 years ago. I just bought higher octane but seeing 85 or 86 was weird there... |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:38:21 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I won the lottery I would throw the WRX engine and transmission into the Crosstrek and tune it to make a modern 2004-2008 Forester XT and I would love it However even as is I love my 23 Manual crosstrek |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:39:57 AM EDT
[#26]
I've got a 2021 Crosstrek Limited and I like it. Gets close to 30mpg of mostly in town and state highway miles. Not sure I'd want to road trip in it for any long distance, but it's great for my needs when I'm home.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 9:44:53 AM EDT
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Looking at new vehicles and test drove the Sport model which "upgrades" to more torque and horsepower.
Really wanted to like it and buy one. I was unimpressed with the power, the interior and that Eyesight nanny thing. Could be that my old 2016 WRX spoiled me on power, but the Sport just felt like a dog. Was never overly impressed with the WRX's interior much either. Fun to drive though. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 11:51:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People who associate an inanimate object like a car with sexuality are as fucking stupid and annoying as the ones who say you're compensating for a little dick because you're a gun owner. Stop. It's retarded and you're embarrassing yourself. 
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Posted: 4/12/2024 11:53:37 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Those little Subarus with lift kits look like they would be fun. They do look fun, but I have an F150. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 11:57:31 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want the Forester "wilderness" model. It has a better clearance, lower gearing, and other offroad goodies. My current Forester is a fine vehicle. The wilderness would be even better. I have a Forester XT. Since they no longer do the 250HP turbo on Foresters, I'd definitely consider the Wilderness. The Outback Wilderness with decent tires looks pretty slick, too. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 12:13:03 PM EDT
[#31]
 https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews/2024-subaru-crosstrek-wilderness-first-drive-review-first-drive-review-specs-price-options-impressions I spotted a Crosstrek Wilderness on the highway the other day. Besides the Wilderness trim, it had a roof rack added and the whole thing had a nice off-road vibe. I liked it. Given the much bigger size/capacity of the Outback for about the same gas mileage, I'd rather have the bigger wagon. I did have an Outback, and it was an excellent car. I'd definitely get another, and the Wilderness package is cool. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 12:21:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Criminally underpowered especially at altitude. Slow doesn't even begin to describe what happens to those in the mountains.
Also they are full of nanny systems that will cut power when you need it the most. Not like the good old Subies that let you just fucking send it until they broke. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 3:04:37 PM EDT
[#33]
The girls do a comparison of Crosstrek to the Seltos. They're KIA employees but seem to do a fair job on each. Plus they're pretty good looking also.
 The Subaru Crosstrek VS Kia Seltos: Two 2024 Models Compared! |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 3:15:55 PM EDT
[#34]
no turbo no care
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Posted: 4/12/2024 3:19:54 PM EDT
[#35]
I only know a couple of lesbians.
They drive STIs. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 4:49:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. Get in my factory stock 2010 Forester XT (turbo). You will retract that statement. Nope, probably not. My 2003 Audi has more than once put a newer WRX than your car to shame and is NA with a tune and SMF. It's not a fast car. It's a big, heavy, smooth German. Your Forester still makes less power than a 21 year old station wagon and but you do have me on weight by nearly 600lbs. You only make a few more HP than my 38 year old mini truck with a NA V6. There is a chance my old pickup can hang with you, especially if you have the automatic. My pickup is slow and struggles for traction. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 4:51:21 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People who associate an inanimate object like a car with sexuality are as fucking stupid and annoying as the ones who say you're compensating for a little dick because you're a gun owner. Stop. It's retarded and you're embarrassing yourself. Do you drive a Lesbaru? |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 4:51:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2024 4:53:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Only your vagina knows for sure.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 4:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Criminally underpowered especially at altitude. Slow doesn't even begin to describe what happens to those in the mountains. Also they are full of nanny systems that will cut power when you need it the most. Not like the good old Subies that let you just fucking send it until they broke. True story there. I thought my old pickup was bad at elevation until I drove a subaru. The nanny stuff will get you killed. The 2021 (?) legacy in the family flashes and beeps all over the place all the time while you try to drive. It won't hit the brakes for animals or tumble weeds but will hit the brakes for the center barrier on the highway at random times. I hate it and it's a horrible driving experience. Going along the gorge at the north end of the state we had a head wind on a 70MPH highway. It sat at dammed near WOT to maintain 65MPH with cruise at 70. Same road in worse wind I've held 70 just fine in the old mini truck (4wd on over sized tires with a load in the bed so nose high) but at the expense of around 12MPG. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 5:01:25 PM EDT
[#41]
If you have to ask, you're not secure enough in your masculinity to drive one.
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Posted: 4/12/2024 5:17:59 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a 19 MT, and I do like it except the engine…it is a dog. No passing power at all. Still, 31ish MPG is pretty hard to argue with, and I agree that a lift would be sweet. If I had to do it over, I’d probably get the Forester, but I’m still happy with the Crosstrek. You'd probably prefer what you have in nasty snow conditions. I have a Forester and its quite capable with Nokian tires, but I had a 2006 Impreza Outback Sport (2"higher than base model) and it was the single most fun and capable snow beast I've ever driven. Part of that I attribute to being lower roofline/center of gravity, footprint, and weight distribution. My current Forester seems to have weight in wrong places and is much more likely to kick out the rear unpredictably than the Impreza. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 5:23:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you drive a Lesbaru? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People who associate an inanimate object like a car with sexuality are as fucking stupid and annoying as the ones who say you're compensating for a little dick because you're a gun owner. Stop. It's retarded and you're embarrassing yourself. Do you drive a Lesbaru? Do you have a gun to compensate for your small penis? See how stupid and childish that sounds? We have 4 subarus. Capable vehicles. No, they won't win any drag races. They are cheap, reliable, capable vehicles.  Subaru destroys 'real 4wds' in mud pit |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 5:24:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Only if you lift it enough to put 35 inch tires underneath it
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Posted: 4/12/2024 5:45:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: Do you drive a Lesbaru? My honor student/varsity athlete son has his shit wired tight and is living his best life. He drives an Outback Wilderness.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 5:47:58 PM EDT
[#46]
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:22:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been on a couple trail rides with lifted Crosstreks. The lack of ground clearance, 4wd low, and suspension travel did not make me a fan of them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Subi_JPG-3185550.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Subaru1_jpg-3185551.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Subaru2_jpg-3185552.JPG This gent was smart and removed his front bumper. He burned out his clutch on a 4 hour trail ride. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Subaru_JPG-3185554.JPG If you are looking to go off road, get a Toyota 4Runner, Tacoma, or a Jeep. That’s not a 4x4 trail, that’s my North Dakota county road.  The couple of lesbians I know, one drives a Chevy Silverado and the other a Dodge Ram. Both think Subaru is to cliche. I asked them
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:24:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only caveat I'd add on the subject of power here: I, living in the east, tend to downplay the importance of power. But now that I've been out west a few times and experienced a typical street vehicle gradually losing power as we went from <1000' to >11000' in elevation, I have came to grasp that you need power, in spades, at eastern elevations, in order to do well 'in the mountains'. There's no way around it, power is a byproduct of combustion and combustion requires oxygen and there's less of it at higher elevations, so you better have more power than you think you need. The rule of 3% loss per 1000' is real, not just theoretical. So at sea level you really need 50% more power than you think you 'need', if you want to be properly equipped for the west. A Crosstrek Wilderness edition with the same engine would be a blast. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:27:19 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was always bummed they never put the 2.5l and 6 speed in the crosstrek. That thing would be the tits. I've got that in my '17 Forrester and the lighter weight/size of the crosstrek would be a hoot. One of my friends has the sport with the 2.5l/cvt and he is pretty happy with it though in colorado. I just wish they'd put a wrx drivetrain, even a detuned one in the crosstrek. That thing would sell like gangbusters. Also pissed they don't put the turbo engine in the Forester wilderness either. I prefer the bigger greenhouse and shorter wheelbase of the Forrester to the Outback. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:29:03 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I found it weird that when I got out west the gas was lower octane, which seems to me like it would compound that problem. Maybe I'm wrong? This was in New Mexico, and admittedly it was 20 years ago. I just bought higher octane but seeing 85 or 86 was weird there... |
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