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Quoted: Just outside Maricopa, near the feed lot, blocks of hi rise apartments that can house thousands are going up. Wonder who those are for? People who will pay top dollar for a penthouse view of cow shit? View Quote Again, this can be reversed and very easily I might add. But sadly some would rather lose everything then win if it winning means hurt others “feelings” |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-01-20_at_16-32-36_Illega-3101410.JPG View Quote AZ tried to require proof of citizenship, SCOTUS then ruled that a federal law allowed people to use the Federal form to register and thus circumvent the Az forms proof of citizenship requirement... |
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Quoted: AZ tried to require proof of citizenship, SCOTUS then ruled that a federal law allowed people to use the Federal form to register and thus circumvent the Az forms proof of citizenship requirement... View Quote Yes, I don't think most people realize this is a result of AZ trying to secure their elections. As a result of the ruling AZ made a federal-only ballot just for the people that can't provide ID. It's the best they can do because of the SCOTUS ruling. In October 2019, there were 17,000 federal-only voters and a year later that number had more than doubled to 36,000 -- and again by court ruling AZ is prohibited from forcing those registered to provide proof. Blame the courts and not AZ on this one. |
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Quoted: Yes, I don't think most people realize this is a result of AZ trying to secure their elections. As a result of the ruling AZ made a federal-only ballot just for the people that can't provide ID. It's the best they can do because of the SCOTUS ruling. In October 2019, there were 17,000 federal-only voters and a year later that number had more than doubled to 36,000 -- and again by court ruling AZ is prohibited from forcing those registered to provide proof. Blame the courts and not AZ on this one. View Quote It’s very simple, tell the court to get fucked, and enforce it. |
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Quoted: Yes, I don't think most people realize this is a result of AZ trying to secure their elections. As a result of the ruling AZ made a federal-only ballot just for the people that can't provide ID. It's the best they can do because of the SCOTUS ruling. In October 2019, there were 17,000 federal-only voters and a year later that number had more than doubled to 36,000 -- and again by court ruling AZ is prohibited from forcing those registered to provide proof. Blame the courts and not AZ on this one. View Quote Why just AZ? Why aren't all states like this? |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-01-20_at_16-32-36_Illega-3101410.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Interesting. Arizona Revised Statute 16-101. Qualifications of registrant; definition A. Every resident of this state is qualified to register to vote if the resident: 1. Is a citizen of the United States and has provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed in section 16-166. 2. Will be eighteen years of age or more on or before the date of the regular general election next following his registration. 3. Is a resident of this state twenty-nine days next preceding the election, except as provided in section 16-126. 4. Is able to write the resident's name or make the resident's mark, unless prevented from so doing by physical disability. 5. Has not been convicted of treason or a felony, unless restored to civil rights. 6. Has not been adjudicated an incapacitated person as defined in section 14-5101. B. For the purposes of this title, "resident" means an individual who has actual physical presence in this state, or for purposes of a political subdivision actual physical presence in the political subdivision, combined with an intent to remain. A temporary absence does not result in a loss of residence if the individual has an intent to return following his absence. An individual has only one residence for purposes of this title. ... 16-120. Eligibility to vote A. An elector shall not vote in an election called pursuant to the laws of this state unless the elector has been registered to vote as a resident within the boundaries or the proposed boundaries of the election district for which the election is being conducted and the registration has been received by the county recorder or the recorder's designee pursuant to section 16-134 before midnight of the twenty-ninth day preceding the date of the election. B. If the twenty-ninth day preceding the date of the election falls on a Saturday, Sunday or other legal holiday, voter registrations that are received on the next business day immediately following the Saturday, Sunday or other legal holiday are deemed to have been timely received for purposes of voting in that election. ... 16-121. Qualified elector; definition A. A person who is qualified to register to vote pursuant to section 16-101 and who is properly registered to vote, if the person is at least eighteen years of age on or before the date of the election and has provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed in section 16-166, shall be deemed a qualified elector for any purpose for which such qualification is required by law, except as provided in section 16-126. A person continues to be a qualified elector until that person's registration is canceled pursuant to section 16-165 or until that person does not qualify as a resident as defined in section 16-101, subsection B. B. For purposes of subsection A of this section, a person who does not reside at a fixed, permanent or private structure shall be properly registered to vote if that person is qualified pursuant to section 16-101 and if that person's registration address is any of the following places located in this state: 1. A homeless shelter to which the registrant regularly returns. 2. The place at which the registrant is a resident. 3. The county courthouse in the county in which the registrant resides. 4. A general delivery address for a post office covering the location where the registrant is a resident. C. A person who is otherwise qualified to register to vote shall not be refused registration or declared not qualified to vote because the person does not live in a permanent, private or fixed structure. D. For the purposes of this section, "homeless shelter" means a supervised publicly or privately operated shelter designed to provide temporary living accommodations to individuals who lack a fixed, regular and adequate nighttime residence. ... 16-121.01. Requirements for proper registration; violation; classification A. A person is presumed to be properly registered to vote on completion of a registration form as prescribed by section 16-152 that contains at least the name, the residence address or the location, proof of location of residence as prescribed by section 16-123, the date and place of birth and the signature or other statement of the registrant as prescribed by section 16-152, subsection A, paragraph 20 and a checkmark or other appropriate mark in the "yes" box next to the question regarding citizenship. Any application for registration, including an application on a form prescribed by the United States election assistance commission, must contain a checkmark or other appropriate mark in the "yes" box next to the question regarding citizenship as a condition of being properly registered to vote as either a voter who is eligible to vote a full ballot or a voter who is eligible to vote only with a ballot for federal offices. The completed registration form must also contain the person's Arizona driver license number, the nonoperating identification license number issued pursuant to section 28-3165, the last four digits of the person's social security number or the person's affirmation that if an Arizona driver license number, a nonoperating identification license number or the last four digits of the person's social security number is not provided, the person does not possess a valid Arizona driver or nonoperating identification license or a social security number and the person is hereby requesting that a unique identifying number be assigned by the secretary of state pursuant to section 16-152, subsection A, paragraph 12, subdivision (c). Any application that does not include all of the information required to be on the registration form pursuant to section 16-152 and any application that is not signed is incomplete, and the county recorder shall notify the applicant pursuant to section 16-134, subsection B and shall not register the voter until all of the information is returned. B. The presumption in subsection A of this section may be rebutted only by clear and convincing evidence of any of the following: 1. That the registrant is not the person whose name appears on the register. 2. That the registrant has not resided in this state for twenty-nine days next preceding the election or other event for which the registrant's status as properly registered is in question. 3. That the registrant is not properly registered at an address permitted by section 16-121. 4. That the registrant is not a qualified registrant under section 16-101. C. Except for a form produced by the United States election assistance commission, any application for registration shall be accompanied by satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed in section 16-166, subsection F, and the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall reject any application for registration that is not accompanied by satisfactory evidence of citizenship. A county recorder or other officer in charge of elections who knowingly fails to reject an application for registration as prescribed by this subsection is guilty of a class 6 felony. The county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall send a notice to the applicant as prescribed in section 16-134, subsection B. D. Within ten days after receiving an application for registration on a form produced by the United States election assistance commission that is not accompanied by satisfactory evidence of citizenship, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall use all available resources to verify the citizenship status of the applicant and at a minimum shall compare the information available on the application for registration with the following, provided the county has access: 1. The department of transportation databases of Arizona driver licenses or nonoperating identification licenses. 2. The social security administration databases. 3. The United States citizenship and immigration services systematic alien verification for entitlements program, if practicable. 4. A national association for public health statistics and information systems electronic verification of vital events system. 5. Any other state, city, town, county or federal database and any other database relating to voter registration to which the county recorder or officer in charge of elections has access, including an electronic registration information center database. E. After complying with subsection D of this section, if the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections matches the applicant with information that verifies the applicant is a United States citizen, is otherwise qualified as prescribed by section 16-101 and has met the other requirements of this section, the applicant shall be properly registered. If the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections matches the applicant with information that the applicant is not a United States citizen, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall reject the application, notify the applicant that the application was rejected because the applicant is not a United States citizen and forward the application to the county attorney and attorney general for investigation. If the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections is unable to match the applicant with appropriate citizenship information, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall notify the applicant that the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections could not verify that the applicant is a United States citizen and that the applicant will not be qualified to vote in a presidential election or by mail with an early ballot in any election until satisfactory evidence of citizenship is provided. F. The county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall record the efforts made to verify an applicant's citizenship status as prescribed in subsections D and E of this section. If the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections fails to attempt to verify the citizenship status of an applicant pursuant to subsections D and E of this section and the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections knowingly causes the applicant to be registered and it is later determined that the applicant was not a United States citizen at the time of registration, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections is guilty of a class 6 felony. ... 16-127. Federal only voters; early ballot; eligibility; exemption A. Notwithstanding any other law: 1. A person who has registered to vote and who has not provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed by section 16-166 is not eligible to vote in presidential elections. 2. A person who has not provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship pursuant to section 16-166 and who is eligible to vote only for federal offices is not eligible to receive an early ballot by mail. B. This section does not apply to an absent uniformed services voter or overseas voter as defined in the uniformed and overseas citizens absentee voting act (P.L. 99-410; 100 Stat. 924; 52 United States Code section 20310), as amended by the Ronald W. Reagan national defense authorization act for fiscal year 2005 (P.L. 108-375). Somehow I think the article might be wrong. |
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Quoted: Why just AZ? Why aren't all states like this? View Quote Not all states require proof of citizenship to register or (or even ID) to vote. You can guess which ones don't. AZ has this explicitly because they do require proof of citizenship, and the court has basically said while the state can legally require that for state offices, for federal offices they can't, which is why AZ has the split ballot system. |
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Quoted: I drove down to Casa Grande yesterday. Then over to Maricopa and back up to PHX. The road side garbage, dumped appliances, open fires, wood smoke haze, stench, dirt and destroyed land, junk cars, and heavy traffic. Its already 3rd world. Might as well make it legit. View Quote Where the hell were you driving? Where are the dumped appliances? Open fires? Wood smoke stench? Was that while driving on Cottonwood Road? Heavy traffic - yes, Casa Grande roads are outdated with too many idiots moving in from out of town, but Maricopa just completed a major freeway upgrade. THAT town is going like gangbusters. |
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Quoted: Just outside Maricopa, near the feed lot, blocks of hi rise apartments that can house thousands are going up. Wonder who those are for? People who will pay top dollar for a penthouse view of cow shit? View Quote Did you note the new highway heading in towards The Valley from Maricopa? Ever heard the term "bedroom community"? Also, there is at least one new factory being built just south of Cottonwood, between Casa Grande and Maricopa, plus the construction was started before Lucid started layoffs...but they are hiring again, they are pretty darn close to Maricopa. |
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SCOTUS could do something about this stuff. Why they don't, I don't know.
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Quoted: Lots of Americans are moving there. You can get a very nice apartment there for $300/mo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: At the rate things are going, I may end up in Vietnam renting surf boards. Lots of Americans are moving there. You can get a very nice apartment there for $300/mo. America and it's dollar falls there wont be many places to hide. |
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Why do you guys keep calling them immigrants? They are illegal aliens, stop using the PC language of the left. Some would even go as far as calling them invaders.
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Quoted: Interesting...I wonder if state law trumps this. https://www.usa.gov/who-can-vote https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/50785/Screenshot_2024-01-20_at_17-45-42_Who_ca-3101433.JPG View Quote Lol. Laws.... Like they give a shit about that |
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Quoted: I'm not calling for it. But I just don't understand why there hasn't been an uprising. ![]() View Quote Keep backing that blue, all you "patriotic conservative American" idiots. |
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The whole voting in a federal election has been a thing for at least 25 years, it’s just that it was never used. (Maybe 3k previous, less in the past)
Now i think it was Edit number are low they are properly quoted in a post earlier in the page |
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Quoted: While I can see both sides of the coin, it is not hard to look at the consequences either. One one side,. the illegals are living there - they are residents and they are without representation. Likewise, it is for state and local - kind of up to state and local to decide who votes. But this is a one time use valve. Once it is open, they will own the state and local governments. There will be nobody to turn it back off. It kind of reminds me of the 19th amendment... But honestly, that did not give the majority of votes to someone else - oh, wait, it did. --- personally I see issues with allowing different people to vote in some, but not all elections. Mostly because the other elections will be so full of fraud afterwards, the results will be worthless. Image in 10 years when you have a county judge and a county election commissioner who are both working for the illegals. View Quote Your second paragraph starts with illegal. Vote doesn't count. Period |
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I was pointing out that I seem to have read sanctuary cities allowing illegals to vote. If is nice warm and fuzzy when they are a fraction of a percentage of the population. It sucks when they become a majority.
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Quoted: The illegals are going to be the most potent and powerful voting bloc in American history. That's why the democrats want 100 million of them in-country by the end of the year. And why the 'crats cater to them like royalty. They won't even have to cheat anymore. View Quote That IS cheating. |
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Um isn't citizenship required by federal law to actually vote in a federal election?
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Quoted: The illegals are going to be the most potent and powerful voting bloc in American history. That's why the democrats want 100 million of them in-country by the end of the year. And why the 'crats cater to them like royalty. They won't even have to cheat anymore. View Quote There are already over 100 million of them here |
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Oh. You guys are so cute!
Arguing over this when you HAVE to know that they, meaning the people rigging the system, aren't EVER going to allow you to see the evidence which THEY surely have, because THEY are the ones running the machine(s). Thinking that you can vote your way out of this. It's too far gone for that, my friends. What you are seeing on the Southern border is not immigration. Amnesty is BS. It's a ploy. This is NOT immigration. This is invasion. Two main groups I see; unaccompanied males of military age, women & children. You can guess what the guys will be doing. Eventually. Stop living in denial. Hell, they're really not hiding the number of Middle Eastern/Chinese coming in with all the rest. The women and kids....human trafficking. If you haven't seen it, you should. Movie Sound of Freedom. On Amazon Prime, even. It's a true story of a Homeland Investigator who pretty much on his own, rescued kids sold into basically, slavery. Sex slaves. Worse. THAT is what our government and people who work for them are facilitating with this. If you thought the violence leading up to 2016 was bad, just wait. Hitch up your drawers, man. It's coming. God Bless. |
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![]() They're EXPOSING the entire U.S. invasion from start to finish | Redacted with Clayton Morris Documentary website |
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I thought part of it was to inflate the number of "residents" in order to get more congress critters assigned?
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Elections have consequences. AZ elected the Democrats that came up with this shit.
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I was assured no election fraud with mail in ballots took place, because judges said so
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Why not let random people that walked into your country illegally vote for the leader of handouts and more bullshit like letting random people walk into your country illegally vote for more handouts and more bullshit like letting …..
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I'd heard about illegal aliens voting before, but it was always in local elections -- mayor, councilman -- and not federal. Which was bad enough. AZ appears to have snorted brake cleaner.
Thank god we have Johns Hopkins to steer our moral rudder. gobstopped... eta, goddamit. I think we're being played. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-01-20_at_16-32-36_Illega-3101410.JPG View Quote That's TREASON. |
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What happens when our economy collapses and they have no more money for illegals?
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Quoted: What happens when our economy collapses and they have no more money for illegals? View Quote classic dem strategy: raise taxes raise the debt limit print more money pay more interest payment to the chinese bond holders until the big boog. then they unleash the US Army upon the revolters, under special authority... |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-01-20_at_16-32-36_Illega-3101410.JPG View Quote So this is not an Arizona thing, it is a federal thing. |
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Quoted: Yeah, but since you can't prove definitively that voter fraud is happening because you don't have access to any information involving the people voting or any way to track it, it didn't happen and elections are safe and secure and any suggestion that illegal immigrants are getting bussed around to vote is completely unfounded. View Quote There are a number of members here that say this is a crazy Qspiracy |
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Planned destruction of the U.S.
In my area I see ghetto types imported via subsidies Obama said “we need to spread out” Democrat/commie demon lovers working in concert Disgust is powerful and I’m full of it |
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Quoted: Planned destruction of the U.S. In my area I see ghetto types imported via subsidies Obama said “we need to spread out” Democrat/commie demon lovers working in concert Disgust is powerful and I’m full of it View Quote It's been planned for years and we're now reaching the home stretch. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The illegals are going to be the most potent and powerful voting bloc in American history. That's why the democrats want 100 million of them in-country by the end of the year. And why the 'crats cater to them like royalty. They won't even have to cheat anymore. That IS cheating. Always was. |
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BUT BRO JUST MOVE TO A FREE STATE.
Yeah that doesn’t work anymore. Liberals look at one party states and furiously masterbate. Plan accordingly. |
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