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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 9:20:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 9:35:37 AM EDT
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It's Happ.....Its not happening.
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. Blue balls...



Or tiny chance of Curry surprise after the pilot is returned?

Link Posted: 2/28/2019 9:44:05 AM EDT
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Shows over, everyone pack it up and move along.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:13:36 AM EDT
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uh oh....India has AMRAAM debris.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:21:18 AM EDT
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oh boy
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:23:57 AM EDT
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What's the significance of that?

We know F16s were scrambled, and at least one plane was shot down. Right?
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:25:53 AM EDT
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The "propaganda" from that area (near Chernobyl) blames every health problem imaginable on radiation, in attempts to get foreign aid.
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The truth is that they massively under reported the number of immediate deaths in the months following the clean up efforts.  Every person with the exception of one who passed the pump room in unit 4 died.

Almost every person who was ordered out on the roof died for clean up duty died.  Most of the vehicle washing crews died, and any one who handled the piles of clothing that was buried died.

Chernobyl was a very serious disaster, one the Soviets wanted to make go away quietly.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:30:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:34:16 AM EDT
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What's the significance of that?

We know F16s were scrambled, and at least one plane was shot down. Right?
The shoot down was ordered

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They lost command and control as a nuclear power

No good options.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:40:11 AM EDT
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The shoot down was ordered

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They lost command and control as a nuclear power

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uh oh....India has AMRAAM debris.
What's the significance of that?

We know F16s were scrambled, and at least one plane was shot down. Right?
The shoot down was ordered

OR

They lost command and control as a nuclear power

No good options.
IIRC the sale of those were only approved under the agreement they wouldnt be used against India. The entire fiasco around the F16 sale was supposedly to provide a more accurate weapon/platform to attack terrorist forces in Pakistan. How goatfucking dirtbags in tribal regions are going to engaged with AIM-120s is a bit vague.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:50:42 AM EDT
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uh oh....India has AMRAAM debris.
What's the significance of that?

We know F16s were scrambled, and at least one plane was shot down. Right?
The shoot down was ordered

OR

They lost command and control as a nuclear power

No good options.
I thought both sides were openly doing CAPs, bombing runs and generally involved in A2A combat.

So, of course you'd find missiles, right?
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:55:06 AM EDT
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I thought both sides were openly doing CAPs, bombing runs and generally involved in A2A combat.

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uh oh....India has AMRAAM debris.
What's the significance of that?

We know F16s were scrambled, and at least one plane was shot down. Right?
The shoot down was ordered

OR

They lost command and control as a nuclear power

No good options.
I thought both sides were openly doing CAPs, bombing runs and generally involved in A2A combat.

So, of course you'd find missiles, right?
Theres strings attached to the employment of some of them.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 10:59:07 AM EDT
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IIRC the sale of those were only approved under the agreement they wouldnt be used against India. The entire fiasco around the F16 sale was supposedly to provide a more accurate weapon/platform to attack terrorist forces in Pakistan. How goatfucking dirtbags in tribal regions are going to engaged with AIM-120s is a bit vague.
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uh oh....India has AMRAAM debris.
What's the significance of that?

We know F16s were scrambled, and at least one plane was shot down. Right?
The shoot down was ordered

OR

They lost command and control as a nuclear power

No good options.
IIRC the sale of those were only approved under the agreement they wouldnt be used against India. The entire fiasco around the F16 sale was supposedly to provide a more accurate weapon/platform to attack terrorist forces in Pakistan. How goatfucking dirtbags in tribal regions are going to engaged with AIM-120s is a bit vague.


I heard a rumor that they’re developing a new technique to allow the application of Paki tape to Jihaddi paper...
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:01:01 AM EDT
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Just saw a Twitter post saying that Pak will release the pilot as a goodwill gesture.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:02:45 AM EDT
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IIRC the sale of those were only approved under the agreement they wouldnt be used against India. The entire fiasco around the F16 sale was supposedly to provide a more accurate weapon/platform to attack terrorist forces in Pakistan. How goatfucking dirtbags in tribal regions are going to engaged with AIM-120s is a bit vague.
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So that's going to ruffle feathers at the US Dept of State, but really doesn't affect the hostilities between the two.

Right?
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:05:22 AM EDT
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Link to India Today tweet saying hostilities are over:

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Link to India Today tweet saying pilot to be released:

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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:06:40 AM EDT
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India is going to be pissed.  I think.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:10:50 AM EDT
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IIRC the sale of those were only approved under the agreement they wouldnt be used against India. The entire fiasco around the F16 sale was supposedly to provide a more accurate weapon/platform to attack terrorist forces in Pakistan. How goatfucking dirtbags in tribal regions are going to engaged with AIM-120s is a bit vague.
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So that's going to ruffle feathers at the US Dept of State, but really doesn't affect the hostilities between the two.

Right?
More or less. Bet they don't get any support for their gear anytime soon.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:11:59 AM EDT
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India is going to be pissed.  I think.
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So that's going to ruffle feathers at the US Dept of State, but really doesn't affect the hostilities between the two.

Right?
India is going to be pissed.  I think.
Pak may not get any more western tech ever.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:15:42 AM EDT
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So that's going to ruffle feathers at the US Dept of State, but really doesn't affect the hostilities between the two.

Right?
India is going to be pissed.  I think.
Pak may not get any more western tech ever.
Lol

We've never let lying to us or breaking an agreement stop us from selling to frenemies.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:21:26 AM EDT
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The only reason they got it the first time was because we needed them...if we need them again they will get it. Sucks but that's how it goes.  I doubt state actually believed the paks wouldn't use them if they needed to. That's a silly agreement anyway.  The truth is that the US benefits from the conflict, it's a fulcrum.  No different from china using norks.  They play their games...we play ours.

I'm sure state is drafting a sternly worded letter as we speak.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:22:05 AM EDT
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It's interesting how the Boy Rapists got a US made AMRAAM missile to shoot down Indian Migs.

Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:24:11 AM EDT
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LOL! FAIL
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:26:03 AM EDT
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It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:27:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:30:58 AM EDT
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Not to tighten my tin foil too tight, but it's amazing how legible those details are given the scoring and deformation on the rest of the material.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 11:31:01 AM EDT
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India exposes Pak’s lie about F-16; shows wreckage of AMRAAM missile carried by downed PAF jet



New Delhi: The Indian Armed Forces today presented evidence about Pakistan’s use of F-16 aircraft to target Indian military establishments, exposing the blatant lie of the country which had denied the deployment of any F-16s in the operation and had said that no PAF aircraft downed by the Indian side.
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In a joint presser of the Army, Navy and Air Force, India presented the wreckage of an AMRAAM missile. Pakistan has only one aircraft which can carry the AMRAAM, which is the F 16  jets, Air Vice Marshall Kapoor explained.
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By the use of F-16s for intruding in Indian boundaries, Pakistan may have violated a US rule that prevents it from using the US weapon (F 16 jets) without prior permission for carrying out any kind of cross-border incursions. The US weapon was provided to Pakistan for use in Afghan region.
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It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
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It's interesting how the Boy Rapists got a US made AMRAAM missile to shoot down Indian Migs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0f98zaXgAI9gK7.jpg
It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
FA8675-05-C-0070 is the paki contract
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:00:25 PM EDT
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Lol. Did the Indians expect the Pakis to engage the Taliban Air Force with those? We made a deal with a terrorist nation involved in 9/11 and hiding OBL on purpose. When the military ceases to exist for the purpose of national defense or winning wars these things happen.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:05:14 PM EDT
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FA8675-05-C-0070 is the paki contract
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It's interesting how the Boy Rapists got a US made AMRAAM missile to shoot down Indian Migs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0f98zaXgAI9gK7.jpg
It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
FA8675-05-C-0070 is the paki contract
Technically it is FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028. Not all of the missiles procured under FA8675-05-C-0070 went to Pakistan. The 500 in FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028 did go to Pakistan.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:06:51 PM EDT
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Technically it is FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028. Not all of the missiles procured under FA8675-05-C-0070 went to Pakistan. The 500 in FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028 did go to Pakistan.
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It's interesting how the Boy Rapists got a US made AMRAAM missile to shoot down Indian Migs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0f98zaXgAI9gK7.jpg
It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
FA8675-05-C-0070 is the paki contract
Technically it is FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028. Not all of the missiles procured under FA8675-05-C-0070 went to Pakistan. The 500 in FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028 did go to Pakistan.
Exactly. That's why the Paki post is such a huge fail.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:09:10 PM EDT
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Exactly. That's why the Paki post is such a huge fail.
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It's interesting how the Boy Rapists got a US made AMRAAM missile to shoot down Indian Migs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0f98zaXgAI9gK7.jpg
It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
FA8675-05-C-0070 is the paki contract
Technically it is FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028. Not all of the missiles procured under FA8675-05-C-0070 went to Pakistan. The 500 in FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028 did go to Pakistan.
Exactly. That's why the Paki post is such a huge fail.
It was a bold attempt to fool people.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:14:27 PM EDT
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Looks like today will either ratchet down or ramp up.

Seeing different views on Twitter

Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:21:43 PM EDT
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It was a bold attempt to fool people.
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It's interesting how the Boy Rapists got a US made AMRAAM missile to shoot down Indian Migs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0f98zaXgAI9gK7.jpg
It couldn't possibly be a Chinese clone, marked like a Taiwanese missile, to cast shame on Taiwan.
FA8675-05-C-0070 is the paki contract
Technically it is FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028. Not all of the missiles procured under FA8675-05-C-0070 went to Pakistan. The 500 in FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028 did go to Pakistan.
Exactly. That's why the Paki post is such a huge fail.
It was a bold attempt to fool people.
Nov 17/06: Raytheon Missile Systems in Tucson, AZ received a $269.6 million firm-fixed-price contract modification, exercising an option to purchase 500 AIM-120C5 AMRAAM missiles and rehost on behalf of Pakistan (100%). Work will be complete April 2011. The Headquarters Medium Range Missile System Group at Eglin Air Force Base, FL issued the contract (FA8675-05-C-0070/P00028).

ETA:  You can see the contract award yourself here.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:26:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:32:49 PM EDT
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Great quote, now back up your lack of concern.

Prove me wrong, please, if you have info to show me I'm in error, I welcome it.
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Jesus. Tittyfucking. Christ.

Great quote, now back up your lack of concern.

Prove me wrong, please, if you have info to show me I'm in error, I welcome it.
Well, the legend of that graphic is in centimeters.

Unless that's a graph of the most bizarre doppler shift ever envisioned by man, I'm thinking that's a tsunami wave height graphic.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 12:40:06 PM EDT
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It never fucking happens....

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I don't know about that. Them boys may not be done.

Link Posted: 2/28/2019 1:37:15 PM EDT
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Why did India make a SSBN with missiles that only reach 2-3 of Pakistan's largest cities? 750km range is crap against China too. China would have to be asleep at the switch to not sink it before it gets in range of Beijing.
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Just need the ports and the water and those countries are FUBAR
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 1:39:26 PM EDT
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If they don't FO in the first 24 hours it fizzles out.

So yeah they fizzled out.
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Most major wars evolve slowly not quicly.
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 1:46:18 PM EDT
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Couple days later, no needful
Link Posted: 2/28/2019 1:57:39 PM EDT
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I'm putting the popcorn away for now.
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Just need the ports and the water and those countries are FUBAR
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Just need the ports and the water and those countries are FUBAR
OK I see now.

So put 15 warheads into Karachi and Hyderabad and you take out 55% of Pakistan's GDP, 95% of foreign trade, and only kill a few million.

Quite vulnerable... if you took out NYC/Newark and LA you'd only take 15% of our GDP.
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That's the first I've heard about a Mig-29.
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And yet the ash from one volcano in Greenland shut down air traffic in almost all of Europe.

Imagine the dust and ash cloud from a limited strike by both sides.
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You do realize more than 500 have been detonated in open air right? More than 1000 counting underground tests?

And more than a few of those were ten times the yield of those in the paki and idian arsenals.
And yet the ash from one volcano in Greenland shut down air traffic in almost all of Europe.

Imagine the dust and ash cloud from a limited strike by both sides.
This is probably one of the silliest things I've read in GD in a while.

Volcanic ash has unique properties that screw up aircraft, none of which have anything to do with a nuclear exchange.

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Most of those test were conducted underground to limit fallout, plus many were done in "clean" areas to limit the same.
"Most" in this context is irrelevant.  Look at the numbers that were not.

Fires would kick more stuff up, but there is only so much contaminant to go around.   Even the nations immediately downwind don't have much to worry about; some agricultural restrictions at worst.
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