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Posted: 9/14/2024 7:02:37 PM EDT
Seems like ammo has been insulated from falling prices in the gun industry. Everything else seems to have come back down to pre-COVID, but ammo never recovered. If you are in the market, are you buying now, or waiting for falling prices that may never come?

Don't really care if you have 10,000 rounds you got for $200 a case. New gun owners are born every day, and they need ammo.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:05:02 PM EDT
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Palmetto State 69/75/77 at $0.55-60cpr ammo maker go Brrrrrrrrr.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:05:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Goddamn I hope not

Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:06:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Components aren’t getting any cheaper or more available to manufacturers so….
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:08:22 PM EDT
[#4]
I got cases of 1000 5.56mm for $89 as recently as 2012.

Newb.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:09:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Everything else seems to have come back down to pre-COVID,
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Say what?
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:10:04 PM EDT
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Has been for quite a while.  Even before 2020, at the big box stores, its was hovering around 40cpr after taxes.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:14:10 PM EDT
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There are a lot of conflicts going on right now, I wouldn't be surprised if that has something to do with it. Even if the ammunition isn't being diverted, the need for the same raw materials will probably put upwards pressure on the cost to produce.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:21:39 PM EDT
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Import bans, rising global tensions and bidenflation means just under 50c is the best deal now, and has been for several years.

Next year things will get better, or worse, lets see!
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:33:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Midway had IMI M193 for .38/round this summer with a coupon code… I went hard!
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:34:48 PM EDT
[#10]
You will never see .22 bread case 5.56 again on the retail market.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:36:07 PM EDT
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Reloading it right now, assuming free cases, you're looking at like $0.35/round probably, $0.30-$0.40 based on how you got the components.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:36:56 PM EDT
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There's no need to buy m193 anymore when PSA makes 77gr OTM ammo for the same price
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:37:21 PM EDT
[#13]
You can get AAC 77gr TMK for .55
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:38:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
There's no need to buy m193 anymore when PSA makes 77gr OTM ammo for the same price
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Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:41:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
There's no need to buy m193 anymore when PSA makes 77gr OTM ammo for the same price
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Some of us just like to go down the road to the BLM land and shoot cow patties or the occasional ground squirrel.  Don't need no bougie ammo for that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:43:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigtex84:
You can get AAC 77gr TMK for .55
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Please share your wizard skills.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:43:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Z28Mike:
Midway had IMI M193 for .38/round this summer with a coupon code… I went hard!
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Haven't been keeping much of a log, but did seem to be falling slightly then election season happened.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:44:52 PM EDT
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Yes.

Between election year, inflation, and global wars the only direction prices are moving is up.


There is a possibility that with a Trump second term we'll get some salad again but I'm not holding my breath.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:44:59 PM EDT
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"Good" deals for the new age can be found, especially in bulk. Pmc ammo for around 43cpr shipped. But yeah around 50cpr seems normal now.

I'm still buying. The price isn't what it was, but I actually shoot and rotate my ammo fort so. I supplement with my reloads.

At least there's ammo to be found. I've gone through several droughts now, since 2008, so I stock up and keep buying when a good deal springs up.

I'm not ordering in case upon case like in 2012, but I still buy.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 7:46:10 PM EDT
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Funny enough Winchester was running rebates this time last year.  Got price per round under .30 if I remember right.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:07:20 PM EDT
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I think it will be in the $0.45/rd range for decent quality XM193 via ammoseek.
You will have to decide if it is worth it to jump up to PSA SMK which is currently $0.65/rd at PSA.

Oddly enough, 300blk (and I'm sure other calibers) went through this.

Early on, Hornady use to sell 200 round ammo boxes V-max for about $130.00 ($.65/rd). If you were lucky, you could find FMJ's of any brand for $0.50-$0.55/rd.  Outside of the Aussie BOGO, or some other crazy sell, it just made sense to buy the Vmax.

Same thing is currently going on now.  125gr and 150gr PSA FMJ is $0.60/rd.   110g PSA V-max and the PSA/Sabre 110gr Blacktips are $0.65-$0.70/rd (depending on buying as pack or case).   PSA (Hornady) 220gr OTM's are $0.80/rd.   Basically, zero reason to my FMJ's these days unless you can find a screaming deal.

Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:10:14 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm pretty sure inflation affects every corner of the market so yes.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:14:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas] [#23]
Value of the dollar is down, takes more dollars to buy the same thing.

2019, #36 was $7.95 at the VN place, it is now $13 or $14.95.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:35:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GrinningDag:
I'm pretty sure inflation affects every corner of the market so yes.
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Other than the $400 complete PSA rifle, apparently.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:45:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:

Other than the $400 complete PSA rifle, apparently.
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Originally Posted By GrinningDag:
I'm pretty sure inflation affects every corner of the market so yes.

Other than the $400 complete PSA rifle, apparently.


Need a rifle that shoots rifle parts at this rate.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:48:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DayandNight1701] [#26]
Anyone know the ballistics of 55 vs 7X?
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:53:59 PM EDT
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Need a rifle that shoots rifle parts at this rate.
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Originally Posted By GrinningDag:
I'm pretty sure inflation affects every corner of the market so yes.

Other than the $400 complete PSA rifle, apparently.


Need a rifle that shoots rifle parts at this rate.

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Link Posted: 9/14/2024 8:58:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HRoark87:

Please share your wizard skills.
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Palmettostatearmory.com
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:00:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JamesJones] [#29]
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Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Palmetto State 69/75/77 at $0.55-60cpr ammo maker go Brrrrrrrrr.
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Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Palmetto State 69/75/77 at $0.55-60cpr ammo maker go Brrrrrrrrr.

I'm pretty much only buying this stuff if 55 grain is gonna stay around 50 cents per. Unfortunately I haven't been able to test it other than a mag or two each range trip because I prefer to shoot up old stuff. Hopefully that doesn't bite me in the ass.

Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Everything else seems to have come back down to pre-COVID,

I'm not sure what everything else is but maybe you mean gun stuff because my bills, insurance, groceries, and countless other daily stuff I need to pay for has been up and keeps going up
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:01:43 PM EDT
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Its possible for it break back into the 40s if the Ukraine war ends and no others start.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:12:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By panthermark:
  Basically, zero reason to my FMJ's these days unless you can find a screaming deal.

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For 556 this is certainly the way I look at it.


9mm fmj is decently priced to stack but I just bought some Norma 85gr HP stuff for the same as fmj. It's one of the only HPs that feed reliable in my akv but and cheap enough to blast considering it's probably junk if that cheap.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:15:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JamesJones:

I'm pretty much only buying this stuff if 55 grain is gonna stay around 50 cents per. Unfortunately I haven't been able to test it other than a mag or two each range trip because I prefer to shoot up old stuff. Hopefully that doesn't bite me in the ass.


I'm not sure what everything else is but maybe you mean gun stuff because my bills, insurance, groceries, and countless other daily stuff I need to pay for has been up and keeps going up
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This is a gun forum, so yes, I’m referring to gun items.

Guns themselves, accessories, optics, magazines, etc. are all at non-panic pricing and average for the last decade or so.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:28:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:

This is a gun forum, so yes, I’m referring to gun items.

Guns themselves, accessories, optics, magazines, etc. are all at non-panic pricing and average for the last decade or so.
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Iink to normal priced domestic large rifle primers?
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:32:08 PM EDT
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77 otm stacked deep
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:33:00 PM EDT
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77 otm stacked deep
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I will admit I got less rounds just because I wanted a few genuine MK262 cans
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:38:07 PM EDT
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I will admit I got less rounds just because I wanted a few genuine MK262 cans
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I have plenty of m193.

I’ve always hand loaded heavier stuff for accuracy. It doesn’t make sense now though. I might load 25 rounds of 77TMK for deer season. Otherwise, nah, my kids are cutting their teeth on AAC 5.56. I’m shooting it cheaper than I can reload it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:39:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zaphar:
There are a lot of conflicts going on right now, I wouldn't be surprised if that has something to do with it. Even if the ammunition isn't being diverted, the need for the same raw materials will probably put upwards pressure on the cost to produce.
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I think it's due to conflicts also.

I remember an online vendor showing 99+ in stock $450 per 1,000 rounds and it never changed. I thought they might actually reduce the price for whatever sale.
Then one day out of stock. Considering the timing I thought it was bought up and sent to Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:40:40 PM EDT
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Dude! Everything else has come back down to pre Covid?! Where the heck is that at because I want in on that!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:41:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By arowneragain:



I have plenty of m193.

I’ve always hand loaded heavier stuff for accuracy. It doesn’t make sense now though. I might load 25 rounds of 77TMK for deer season. Otherwise, nah, my kids are cutting their teeth on AAC 5.56. I’m shooting it cheaper than I can reload it.
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Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

I will admit I got less rounds just because I wanted a few genuine MK262 cans



I have plenty of m193.

I’ve always hand loaded heavier stuff for accuracy. It doesn’t make sense now though. I might load 25 rounds of 77TMK for deer season. Otherwise, nah, my kids are cutting their teeth on AAC 5.56. I’m shooting it cheaper than I can reload it.

PSA is legit doing awesome work. Companies like BearFag have shit quality and no support.

PSA is doing arms and ammo right.

My secret hope is that THEY get a competitor.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:48:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

PSA is legit doing awesome work. Companies like BearFag have shit quality and no support.

PSA is doing arms and ammo right.

My secret hope is that THEY get a competitor.
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*laughs capitalisticly*
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:49:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar] [#41]
Unless you regularly shoot a 20 inch barrel there is no reason to buy 55grain when its almost the same price as heavier stuff these days. Spend the extra 30 per case
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:51:42 PM EDT
[#42]
SGAmmo has lots for about $.46/rnd
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:52:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigtex84:
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Not TMK.

 OTM yes but never TMK
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:53:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigtex84:

Palmettostatearmory.com
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No .55 TMK anywhere on thier site
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:55:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Not TMK.

 OTM yes but never TMK
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They have some sort of tipped 77 but it has a lower  BC than their 75bthp so I just buy that.

Link Posted: 9/14/2024 9:58:30 PM EDT
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I'll just keep buying from the boomers at the gunshows.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 10:02:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WildBoar:

No .55 TMK anywhere on thier site
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Wait for the daily deals.  And it’s their
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 10:03:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
SGAmmo has lots for about $.46/rnd
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With tax and shipping? I don't see it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 10:04:27 PM EDT
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.50bmg is like $3.50 still

at this point might as well just buy a barrett
Link Posted: 9/14/2024 10:05:09 PM EDT
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It is until it’s not being shot up in 2 wars
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