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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:15:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:17:53 AM EDT
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Your fault is that you think race determines outcome.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:19:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:21:18 AM EDT
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:21:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not making an argument one way or another, but it confirms what you said when I see blacks at work, from all different levels of hierarchy, straight up toilet unclogging maintenance guy, admin, mid level degreed black personnel, even the one self identifying white girl. They have one demeanor when engaged individually but when they they talk with two or more, everything changes and usually draws others in. I don't know how to describe it other than to say it reverts to what I would say was street talk. The part that catches my attention the most isn't the cluster and hive mind, of like kind, it's the cluster and hive mind that appears to be based on like kind being based on skin color vs like mental aptitude. The part that catches my attention the most isn't the cluster and hive mind, of like kind, it's the cluster and hive mind that appears to be based on like kind being based on carrying vs like mental aptitude. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:24:49 AM EDT
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the way you frame that arguement is 1st world laws/culture vs. 3rd world laws culture. You remove skin color and let the world cultures do the talking. You'll still be a racist
Here's the question you ask then if whites stole this land and Euro needs to be diversified with islamists, then which land is for whites? it seems everyone has has "their" land, which land is the causcasians land? watch them stutter and show that THEY are the racists. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:27:59 AM EDT
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Things were better when the various races/cultures stayed in their own lane.....Warts and all.
Too old to give a shit if that's racist or not. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:33:53 AM EDT
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Yes and no.
I think as a nation we are actually doing better than in the past in some ways. Crime is down, gun rights are at an all time high, we have unimaginable wealth, information is readily available. However culturally we are more divided. Also we have institutions that are infiltrated by socialism. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:36:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:37:10 AM EDT
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Morality and skin color are not mutually exclusive.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:38:19 AM EDT
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we have fewer rights because of people cramming themselves into cities and then being surrounded by violent minorities.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:40:06 AM EDT
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:49:35 AM EDT
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Crime data refutes OP's argument. Violent crime peaked in 1990 and has been declining since then. This is the same time that OP thinks things started getting worse. Violent crime rates today equate roughly to 1970, property crimes roughly 1966. Today's murder rate roughly equates to 1960. Pre-1960 crime data is not reliable. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:50:07 AM EDT
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We have fewer freedoms and more laws today because of changing demographics and a severe lack of morality. In the 50s-90s, America was a majority White/Caucasian/Christian population that had a relatively strong moral compass. There was honor, responsibility, and we all were heading the same direction. Now? We aren’t heading the same direction. There is no moral compass (as a nation). Whites are no longer a true majority and our way of life had been diluted by intense immigration (legal and illegal) and a sharpe rise in socialist/collectivist ideals. I guess you could throw in the number of people addicted to drugs/opioids as well. Maybe the change from national/local newspapers and 30 minute TV shows, to the instant/worldwide 24/7 news and social media engine of hype/hysteria? I guess what I’m wondering here is, is the changing demographics of race/culture the largest part of why we can’t do a lot of things we used to be able to do? Or am I missing the mark and other factors are more influential on this? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:57:20 AM EDT
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Stop making claims about data and show us the data. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:00:20 PM EDT
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Why? You're not going to believe it anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people.  hanging your head and giving up so fast?
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:05:37 PM EDT
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hanging your head and giving up so fast? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. hanging your head and giving up so fast? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:14:13 PM EDT
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Hardly. Why don't you refute the statistics with sources instead of emojis? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. hanging your head and giving up so fast? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:15:49 PM EDT
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Crime data refutes OP's argument. Violent crime peaked in 1990 and has been declining since then. This is the same time that OP thinks things started getting worse. Violent crime rates today equate roughly to 1970, property crimes roughly 1966. Today's murder rate roughly equates to 1960. Pre-1960 crime data is not reliable. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. The decrease in other crimes... well, let's just say that creative bookkeeping certainly plays its part in keeping those numbers down. (Robberies become larcenies, assaults become menacing, and so on.) And, none of that changes the fact that what violent crime we do have is overwhelming non-white. Think of the restrictions on freedom that we are forced to deal with - which we are told, are necessary, to combat that violence. Heck, never mind the legal aspect, just look at how we've ceded control of huge portions of our cities to the underclass. Think of the enormous amount of wealth we could realize out of urban areas, just in the real estate sector alone, if whole neighborhoods, sometimes whole cities, were actually safe to live in. I consider it a "loss of freedom" when unchecked violence makes certain areas off limits to the productive and the law abiding. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:27:39 PM EDT
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All those guys joined the Republicans after a lot of blacks joined the Dems Quote HistoryQuoted:
All those guys joined the Republicans after a lot of blacks joined the Dems |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:31:20 PM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:31:56 PM EDT
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Hardly. Why don't you refute the statistics with sources instead of emojis? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. If anything, crime data shows increasing numbers or brown people correlate to decreased criminality, particularly among white people. hanging your head and giving up so fast? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:33:59 PM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are white. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:34:11 PM EDT
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The internet has made people think their voice matters and that they should blather on and on about the pettiest of shit. Stay at home moms who used to keep their nonsense to themself now are "resistance" moms. Nerdy ass gamers now go on obscure message boardd and found others like them and formed groups to larp and protest. Politicians and business owners get 100 comments on a tweet and think the world is against them and apologize and sacrifice their and others freedom on the PC altar. It is real retarded.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:36:50 PM EDT
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I don’t really think your argument holds water for several reasons but I’d like to hear more before commenting.
What freedoms are you specifically referring to that we’ve lost? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:38:47 PM EDT
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The internet has made people think their voice matters and that they should blather on and on about the pettiest of shit. Stay at home moms who used to keep their nonsense to themself now are "resistance" moms. Nerdy ass gamers now go on obscure message boardd and found others like them and formed groups to larp and protest. Politicians and business owners get 100 comments on a tweet and think the world is against them and apologize and sacrifice their and others freedom on the PC altar. It is real retarded. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:40:50 PM EDT
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Your premise is incorrect.
You're blaming it on changing "Demographics" rather than looking at the Progressive policies that intentionally produced that shift. Incoming Mexicans or Indians or Somalis or other groups didn't destroy the nuclear family. Radical Feminism did. Everything else flows from there. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:42:55 PM EDT
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. As for the rose colored glasses, the 90s are better than today. Better technology today yes, but we have more crime, more people, more looking for handouts, illegal immigration was rampant for over a decade. Demographics are destiny and it is a hard pill to swallow that our future carved out by the Founding Fathers is being pissed away in the name of "progressivism". |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:43:22 PM EDT
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Your premise is incorrect. You're blaming it on changing "Demographics" rather than looking at the Progressive policies that intentionally produced that shift. Incoming Mexicans or Indians or Somalis or other groups didn't destroy the nuclear family. Radical Feminism did. Everything else flows from there. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:44:15 PM EDT
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When white people are in charge, and aren't commmies or nazis, life is very good for most white people and shitty to ok with non white folks.
When non white folks are in charge, it's generally pretty shitty for everyone and even worse for white folks. This is a generalization, not supported by hard data. Obvious exceptions abound. I know where I want to live and isn't as a fucking minority, anywhere. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:47:12 PM EDT
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The internet has made people think their voice matters and that they should blather on and on about the pettiest of shit. Stay at home moms who used to keep their nonsense to themself now are "resistance" moms. Nerdy ass gamers now go on obscure message boardd and found others like them and formed groups to larp and protest. Politicians and business owners get 100 comments on a tweet and think the world is against them and apologize and sacrifice their and others freedom on the PC altar. It is real retarded. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:52:43 PM EDT
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too me it's pretty simple.
The protestant work ethic is a thing. Judeo/Christian morals and values are a thing. Our rule of law and freedoms are rooted in our English origins. as people that were raised with those values are replaced, and as our children are brainwashed by media and education that where we came from was racist and war like and unfair people will be discarding them and searching for something else as their value system. One alternative is the government has alotta money and power and they want some.. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:54:04 PM EDT
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I blame the hippies, feminism destroying the home and the education system going to shit
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Posted: 11/22/2018 12:56:32 PM EDT
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“Racially there has been progress”, what exactly does that mean? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Racially, there has been progress since the 50's. But the loss of freedoms, and lack of morality, general societal decay has to do more with the drift away from the Judeo-Christian and nuclear family values. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:03:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It means that way fewer white people see skin tone as any kind of......anything. FIFY |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:14:37 PM EDT
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You'll also be called an anti-semite if you start talking about who is behind it.
But yea, I'm a racist and hypocrite. My wife is from Vietnam, her and a bunch of her friends came here from Vietnam's school for the gifted. They're your model immigrants, they pay taxes, work long hours as accountants and other white collar jobs. Aside from my wife, I don't want them here. 95% off her friends who came here, many now citizens, are collectivists, support gun control, want bans on "hate speech", open borders, welfare, and so on. They live in Vietnamese communities and do not share American values. I don't want any migrants, not even white Europeans or South Africans. No more. It's all apart of the plan to destroy our country, and here's why: 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:16:36 PM EDT
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I dont see your points on morality. Latins and historically Blacks tended to be far more religious than whites. So its a phallacy on your part to suggest religion and race are linked together with morality
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:18:09 PM EDT
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But everyone else still does. FIFY Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:18:14 PM EDT
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Its not actually race that negatively effects Free economics. That wont matter though. Racial divisions, just as class divisions are too good a tool for Political monsters to attack society. America could have continued in a positive direction with prosperity and with different races and cultures within its borders, but that has been lost now with a push towards Marxist and socialist engineered "progress". https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2017/08/not-antifa-mugshots.jpg?resize=586,749 Nearly all of them are white. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A caveat I’d like to add to the discussion OBVIOUSLY we are individuals and capable of unique thoughts and actions and there are no 100% truths. When I mention race, I am generalizing on cultural norms which follow along racial lines and you’d be stupid if you don’t realize that. https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2017/08/not-antifa-mugshots.jpg?resize=586,749 Nearly all of them are white. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:19:07 PM EDT
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I'm not making an argument one way or another, but it confirms what you said when I see gun carrying guys at work, from all different levels of hierarchy, straight up toilet unclogging maintenance guy, admin, mid level degreed carrying personnel, even the one self identifying gun carrying girl. They have one demeanor when engaged individually but when they they talk with two or more, everything changes and usually draws others in. I don't know how to describe it other than to say it reverts to what I would say was street talk. The part that catches my attention the most isn't the cluster and hive mind, of like kind, it's the cluster and hive mind that appears to be based on like kind being based on carrying vs like mental aptitude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'm not making an argument one way or another, but it confirms what you said when I see blacks at work, from all different levels of hierarchy, straight up toilet unclogging maintenance guy, admin, mid level degreed black personnel, even the one self identifying white girl. They have one demeanor when engaged individually but when they they talk with two or more, everything changes and usually draws others in. I don't know how to describe it other than to say it reverts to what I would say was street talk. The part that catches my attention the most isn't the cluster and hive mind, of like kind, it's the cluster and hive mind that appears to be based on like kind being based on skin color vs like mental aptitude. The part that catches my attention the most isn't the cluster and hive mind, of like kind, it's the cluster and hive mind that appears to be based on like kind being based on carrying vs like mental aptitude. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:20:18 PM EDT
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It isn't race. It is Western European Judeo Christian culture.
The people with more melanin in their skin that adopt that culture are just as good as those with less melanin in their skin that have that culture. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:24:07 PM EDT
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When 4chan got a hold of names of a couple hundred members, ANTIFA was majority Jewish and Muslim from what I saw. It was actually a pleasant surprise to see the Jews and Muslims getting along, anyways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A caveat I’d like to add to the discussion OBVIOUSLY we are individuals and capable of unique thoughts and actions and there are no 100% truths. When I mention race, I am generalizing on cultural norms which follow along racial lines and you’d be stupid if you don’t realize that. https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2017/08/not-antifa-mugshots.jpg?resize=586,749 Nearly all of them are white. they don't need social utopia, they need the hunka-chunka.. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:25:59 PM EDT
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Yes and no. I think as a nation we are actually doing better than in the past in some ways. Crime is down, gun rights are at an all time high, we have unimaginable wealth, information is readily available. However culturally we are more divided. Also we have institutions that are infiltrated by socialism. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:26:15 PM EDT
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I would make the argument that race determines culture, and culture determines outcome. We're talking about groups of people, not individuals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your fault is that you think race determines outcome. Culture is learned, not innate. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:26:51 PM EDT
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All those guys joined the Republicans after a lot of blacks joined the Dems |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are white. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:33:40 PM EDT
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I don't think we were a more moral society back then. I think we just had a better facade.
And let's not romanticize the past; at the risk of sounding like an SJW, life did still kind of suck for minorities and women. They were the golden years, but mostly for white men. I realize that life was still better for women and minorities in the US than anywhere else in the world due to the work of said white men, but it was still a time of rampant racism and misogyny (both institutionally and culturally). |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:35:15 PM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are white. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When 4chan got a hold of names of a couple hundred members, ANTIFA was majority Jewish and Muslim from what I saw. It was actually a pleasant surprise to see the Jews and Muslims getting along, anyways. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 1:36:37 PM EDT
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