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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:11:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papposilenus: Seems to be moving fast Hamas holds a large and unknown number of hostages and hides among civilians. This isn't a bulldozing situation. Large scale ground operations don't just happen we don't even have a final body count of the initial attack, this is very fresh Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papposilenus: Originally Posted By ApacheScout: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Hamas holds a large and unknown number of hostages and hides among civilians. This isn't a bulldozing situation. Large scale ground operations don't just happen we don't even have a final body count of the initial attack, this is very fresh |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:11:41 PM EST
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:11:44 PM EST
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:12:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ming_The_Merciless: Too Much "Dirka Dirka Mohammad Jihad" in that video but Yes, AT-3 Sagger ATGM Iran is currently producing their copy, so if the footage is from Hamas, that would be a great guess for the source. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ming_The_Merciless: Originally Posted By brownbomber: A Soviet Sagger anti-tank missile? Too Much "Dirka Dirka Mohammad Jihad" in that video but Yes, AT-3 Sagger ATGM Iran is currently producing their copy, so if the footage is from Hamas, that would be a great guess for the source. That's "dUrka" |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:12:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notrega: Israeli police chase down and eliminate a group of terrorists in the south. Dude on the motorcycle one handing it as he puts some rounds into a T, the two support guys in the car hop out to add to that Lead, car slowly rolls away from them. I mean, who here who has been in the shit, hasn't had that happen to them? I know it's happened to me a few time. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:12:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: I wonder how many times it’s been destroyed previously. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By FennRx:  Just read on X that IDF blew up the third oldest church in the world. I wonder how many times it’s been destroyed previously. It was currently being used as a goat pen, so, there's that. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:13:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: Kind of related, FJB called in a press lid for the day. Too many raised eyebrows and questions about his and Obama's contributions to Iran and their terrorists? |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:13:27 PM EST
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Benjamin Netanyahu to speak live soon. Expected to announce start of ground invasion per Fox.
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:13:28 PM EST
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:13:36 PM EST
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I dont think they will go into Gaza in force, other than Rafah. They may allow women and children passage to Egypt but my guess is they are going to lay siege to the entire strip and hit anything that moves with arty and precision munitions, and probably go in with night raids taking out personnel until peace talks result in something Israel will agree to.
I dont think its going to be affective in the long run. Gaza would really need to be purged completely, sovereignty abolished and selectively repopulated in coordination with an aggressive long-term campaign of covert antiterrorist operations against Iran. JMHO, YMMV. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:13:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: Dude on the motorcycle one handing it as he puts some rounds into a T, the two support guys in the car hop out to add to that Lead, car slowly rolls away from them. I mean, who here who has been in the shit, hasn't had that happen to them? I know it's happened to me a few time. 
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:14:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ApacheScout: I will believe it when I see it. All weekend we have been hearing how Israel, "We're really gonna do it this time!", "we're getting really close to doing it this time!". I hope they do but I'm having my doubts. They should have launched immediately and had 24 hour bombing runs over Gaza. The longer it goes, the less chance of retaliation it seems. They're playing a longer game this time. Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, are going to die from dehydration in the coming weeks if the Israelis choose. I hope they do. Egypt and Syria have absolutely no fucks to give about the "palestineans" whom tried to overthrow both of their governments. No one is coming to help them, despite any fake support from other muslims. People don't seem to understand that even the arabs hate these people. Play stupid games when somebody else controls your water and electricity, and you win really, really stupid prizes. Frankly the only social media that I want to see is "palestineans" dried out like mummies in a month. I have that level of hate, which is sad tbh. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:15:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: Nice breakdown. I might shrink the IDF casualties expectations, as I think they're going to be a lot more free with the ROE and firepower than even the USMC was in Fallujah. Urban fighting is a mess, no matter how you parse it though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: Originally Posted By Krater: Originally Posted By Wineraner: These things take time. How long did it take to retake Mosul from IS? How long would reducing Sadr City have taken, if Bush the Lesser didn't grow cold feet at the prospect of dead Iraqi civilians on TV in an election year? It takes time to concentrate forces, divvy up operating areas, deconflict all of the weapons, and train up 2nd and 3rd echelon forces to do house-to-house fighting. Plus set up means for evacuating civvys, resupply areas for all of the above, etc, et friggin' cetera. Or you can Leeroy in and get blown up by an IED. Battle of Fallujah vs Battle of Gaza Population: ~150,000 vs ~2,400,000 (16x) Area: 11.5 square miles vs 365 square miles (31x) Enemy force: 4,000 vs 30,000 (7.5x) Friendly force: 12,500 vs 150,000(?) (12x) Enemy casualties:~1700 KIA, 1500 POW Friendly casualties:107 KIA Civilian casualties: 700 KIA Doing some back of the envelope, straight line extrapolation, and applying soft factor of 2X to effectiveness of HAMAS we'll be looking: IDF casualties: 1,500 KIA Jihadi casualties: 15,000 KIA Civilian casualties: 7,000 KIA I'd expect real numbers are anywhere within 50% to 200% of those. Nice breakdown. I might shrink the IDF casualties expectations, as I think they're going to be a lot more free with the ROE and firepower than even the USMC was in Fallujah. Urban fighting is a mess, no matter how you parse it though. Why even invade. Just surround them. Cut them off and bomb and arty them. Do not allow media into gaza. Cut off all cell phone comms. Bomb and arty at night. No one gets in. No aid groups. Only allow women and kids under 12 out. And they get sent to muslim countries that are willing to take them. Don’t provide transportation. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:15:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ApacheScout: I will believe it when I see it. All weekend we have been hearing how Israel, "We're really gonna do it this time!", "we're getting really close to doing it this time!". I hope they do but I'm having my doubts. They should have launched immediately and had 24 hour bombing runs over Gaza. The longer it goes, the less chance of retaliation it seems. You don’t just hand out rifles to tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of troops point them in a direction and say good luck. I’m sure plans were in place but modifications and changes and updates had to be made. They have a long road ahead of them for cqc and building clearing. Not going to be easy. Jets seem to be flying lower, you hear them pass by about the same time the bombs go off, not much of a delay like the past few days. Hopefully the strikes over the past few days took out the manpads and caches. Lots of targets getting hit now on the feeds. If anything comes from this on the home front I hope people wake up to the fact the same animals who did these attacks could have come up our open borders and are plotting the same style attacks here. Who knows maybe they’ll be allowed to continue we saw the amount of rights we lost after 9/11. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:16:25 PM EST
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hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:17:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: This has probably already been posted, this thread is moving so fast. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610107/Tattoo-artist-Shani-Louk-naked-body-Hamas-Israel.html She was a pacifist who refused mandatory military service. That worked out for her. There's nothing wrong with dedicating one's life to peace. One must also realize that peace needs preventative care. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:17:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mindfull]
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Reporter under rocket fire live on Fox
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:18:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox C'mon in the water's fine |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:18:57 PM EST
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All this and our border is still open... No Trojan horse needed...
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:19:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TKLOL: My wife and I spent our 20th anniversary in Israel this past June. It was the trip of a lifetime and while we'd love to go back, I don't think we'll ever set foot there again. We had a private tour guide for a whole week and toured a great deal of Israel's Historical and Holy sites; Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee, Masada, the Jordan river, the Dead Sea, etc., etc....We lucked out and were privileged to have an incredibly awesome guide. While a self described, secular "Bad Jew", he's an incredibly intelligent man who's just making a living for his family as a tour guide and using his degree in theology that he studied for after a 12 year stint in the IDF. While we toured the Holy Land, he made it clear he wanted us to not only 'visit and tour' but "see and live" Israel. Once he discovered my interest in current affairs, it was game on, it became a living history lesson up to the current day and I highly value all I learned from him. Israel is an intense place and many of the cities and historical areas are in Palestine, under the completely corrupted, clusterfuck that is the Palestinian Authority. There's lots of money and affluence in Palestine, I saw it with my own eyes, expensive cars, mansions, fancy jewelry stores...it's just the same old shit, their elite and politicians stealing funds through graft & corruption, letting their cities rot and decay all while pointing the finger at Israel...same deal as other countries...different location. All the "Cousins" drink, deal drugs, gamble and whore it up and then lay blame on the Israelis. He said "the Palestine you know is through western eyes and bullshit narratives, you now get to see what it really is' . The Palestinians treat each other like shit and are really an "I got mine...screw you" type of culture. That's evident just walking around in their cities...Complete disregard for their fellow man, the cities in complete disrepair, trash everywhere. The contrast is plainly evident in the Old City in Jerusalem. The Christian, Armenian and Jewish Quarters are bright, clean and well kept...The Muslim Quarter, it's a shit hole, it's dark, it stinks and is sketchy as hell...Don't get me started on Bethlehem and Nazareth. Jerico? Out of the question...not a place for us to visit. They hate the Israelis so much but they all want to work in all the Israeli communities...These guys burn down the very farms where their brothers and sisters work. Hell, a lot of them actually work in construction, building the very settlements they claim to hate...funny, they love the paychecks don't they? They don't do shit to lift themselves up...they kill and steal from their own, they blame Israel and the West and then they get all jihaded up and kill innocents. The Palestine Authority won't police the problem, so Israel, has to step up and slap a motherfucker...the bigger the attack, the harder the slap...We're seeing this now and it's going to be a big fucking slap. When discussing Israel, his home and the constant threat, he shrugs it off nonchalantly...'What am I going to do, where are we going to go? This is our home, our backs are to the Med...this is our 'Alamo'. I'm rambling now but I wanted to share a couple more items before I catch up on the thread. 1) We were in Jerusalem on the 26th of June, the night of the rocket attack where 2 rockets were fired at Jerusalem from the West Bank . I slept through it but it woke my wife up. When we discussed it with our guide the following morning, he said, paraphrasing of course, 'Yeah, this is new territory...Attacks are always from the 'Strip but this, coming from the West Bank, is a game changer...Keep an eye on Israel, it's going to be very interesting from here on out'. 2) He lives in a kibbutz near Gaza and I'm genuinely scared for him and his family's safety. I've reached out to him on WhatsApp but honestly, I don't imagine a reply to me is a high priority right now...I know I'd have more important shit to deal with if I were in his shoes...That said, if you're the praying kind or just one to offer up a kind thought, I'd imagine they could use some good words about now. Thank you for your account. Unfortunate similarities to behavior in this country by similarly-subsidized and coddled groups. There are maps.in this thread of where Hamas attacked in Israel. You could see if your guide's home was in one of those areas. I'll pray for he and his's wellbeing. They made the desert bloom before. Given free rein, they will again. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:19:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: Reporter under rocket fire live on Fox Fingers crossed for a righteous kill. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:19:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox And there it is. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:19:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anono: Normal practice is first a call to all residents, then a small inert munition through the roof, then they demolish it. HOWEVER- All residents of Gaza were told to leave ~24 hours ago. They were given 24 hours to vacate. To the best of my knowledge the Israelis are not giving any warning currently. They're not even engaging in ground warfare, they are simply leveling every building where adult males are observed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anono: Originally Posted By BTccw: Those buildings look like crap construction. Is Israel warning the residents of these buildings they are targeted? Carpet bombing is the answer. Normal practice is first a call to all residents, then a small inert munition through the roof, then they demolish it. HOWEVER- All residents of Gaza were told to leave ~24 hours ago. They were given 24 hours to vacate. To the best of my knowledge the Israelis are not giving any warning currently. They're not even engaging in ground warfare, they are simply leveling every building where adult males are observed. War sucks. Sucks worse when you lose. Don’t start nothing-won’t be nothing. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:20:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: She was a pacifist who refused mandatory military service. That worked out for her. What if they gave a war and nobody came? Then, war would come to you. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:20:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inzane123: They need to keep going until the people of Gaza load up the terrorists and their leaders and present them to Israel as a peace offering. Never happen. Those people are completely brainwashed since birth to hate Israel. They only way to defeat them, as with any other fanatical group, is to completely break their will and ability to fight. We shall see if Israel has the ability to do the hard thing. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:20:54 PM EST
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World needs to step back and sfu, let IDF do what they are gonna do
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:20:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anono: They're playing a longer game this time. Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, are going to die from dehydration in the coming weeks if the Israelis choose. I hope they do. Egypt and Syria have absolutely no fucks to give about the "palestineans" whom tried to overthrow both of their governments. No one is coming to help them, despite any fake support from other muslims. People don't seem to understand that even the arabs hate these people. Play stupid games when somebody else controls your water and electricity, and you win really, really stupid prizes. Frankly the only social media that I want to see is "palestineans" dried out like mummies in a month. I have that level of hate, which is sad tbh. Let them drink seawater. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:21:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: pathetic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8AqcsIXEAAu2nS?format=png&name=small While FJB is a totally worthless pos, that could be a sign this shit is spinning out of control worldwide and they’re having lots of meetings. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:21:06 PM EST
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:21:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FennRx: I certainly hope so. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if Hamas took of residence in a church like they do schools and hospitals There just arent any churches that old in Israel outside of Jerusalem and the West Bank (Church of the Nativity, they arent gonna blow that up). Syria has a few, hell I think the oldest know Christian church is actually in Iran IIRC. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:21:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_M1: Let them drink seawater. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_M1: Originally Posted By anono: They're playing a longer game this time. Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, are going to die from dehydration in the coming weeks if the Israelis choose. I hope they do. Egypt and Syria have absolutely no fucks to give about the "palestineans" whom tried to overthrow both of their governments. No one is coming to help them, despite any fake support from other muslims. People don't seem to understand that even the arabs hate these people. Play stupid games when somebody else controls your water and electricity, and you win really, really stupid prizes. Frankly the only social media that I want to see is "palestineans" dried out like mummies in a month. I have that level of hate, which is sad tbh. Let them drink seawater. I am staying well hydrated so I can provide my urine for them. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:22:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:22:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: Weak. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: Originally Posted By Chokey: pathetic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8AqcsIXEAAu2nS?format=png&name=small Weak. Probably taking time off to celebrate, being they financed it. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:22:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evilyoda: Good. Why waste troops on a full scale invasion. Trap them in there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evilyoda: Originally Posted By realwar: Israel orders ‘complete siege’ of Gaza, cutting off food and electricity, and prepares for massive ground offensive ‘within 48 hours’ in response to Jewish state’s ‘worst day in history’ Now, Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant said authorities will cut electricity to the Gaza Strip and block the entry of food and fuel, declaring his troops are 'fighting barbaric terrorists and will respond accordingly'. The measures will essentially enact siege-like conditions that will see the millions of Palestinians living in the tiny, fenced-in region begin to starve as they are attacked from the skies. The announcement comes as Israeli soldiers backed by helicopters killed at least two gunmen who crossed the northern border from Lebanon today, in a sign of a possible new front opening as Israel's forces continued to battle Hamas terrorists to the south. Artillery shelling and gunfire were heard at Lebanon's southern border with Israel, a local journalist said. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu formally declared war on Sunday and the army called up around 300,000 reservists, suggesting greater fighting lies ahead with a possible ground assault into Gaza. Netanyahu has vowed to completely destroy 'the military and governing capabilities' of Hamas, which is deeply rooted in Gaza and has ruled unchallenged since 2007. More Good. Why waste troops on a full scale invasion. Trap them in there. Because sieges are ugly as fuck, where non-combatants die long before the assholes who need killing, and would quickly turn world opinion against the Israelis. As the usual global media outlets are no doubt fiending to do. They don't have time to allow a WW2 Leningrad to fester. Too many cameras. Not to mention the horrific loss of life. Potentially 2 million people starving to death on TV, will get the UN and US against them before 1/10 of them die. And all of those deaths would just be women and kids. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:23:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox It's is a setup. Iranian war planners know Israel would send the army into Gaza after the attack. They may have a surprise waiting for them once they get in there. Place is probably wired from end to end with HE buried in underground tunnels. They had years to prepare for it. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:23:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: There just arent any churches that old in Israel outside of Jerusalem and the West Bank (Church of the Nativity, they arent gonna blow that up). Syria has a few, hell I think the oldest know Christian church is actually in Iran IIRC. Saint Porphyrius was built in Gaza around 425 |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:23:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Ok. This RPG was made in Russia in 1985. Now what? And the lot# was last seen in ukr or afg, now what? |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:23:56 PM EST
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They need to bomb all of Gaza into sand so that filth don't even have a pebble to throw in defiance.
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:23:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: This has probably already been posted, this thread is moving so fast. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610107/Tattoo-artist-Shani-Louk-naked-body-Hamas-Israel.html She was a pacifist who refused mandatory military service. That worked out for her. "You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you!" I hope she found in eternity the peace she sought. 
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:24:17 PM EST
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While it is easy to say since I don't have any loved ones being held hostage they need to be treated as already dead. If you can rescue some that is great but you can't alter your plans overall on concerns they will kill hostages or hostages might be killed in bombing runs etc. Sucks ass but it is the reality of the situation.
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:24:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: I am staying well hydrated so I can provide my urine for them. Same here. I can add extra salt to make it more palatable. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:24:22 PM EST
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:24:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5196_jpeg-2984940.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5197_jpeg-2984941.JPG Brought to you by Boeing! Seriously. Would anyone be stunned if the copy in those articles didn't come straight from Boeing's PR department? |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:25:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By omar: What if they gave a war and nobody came? Then, war would come to you. You may want peace with everybody else but what if they don't want peace with you? |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:25:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: please stop replying to shepherds_hook. He has been removed from the thread. Thank you. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:25:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: It's is a setup. Iranian war planners know Israel would send the army into Gaza after the attack. They may have a surprise waiting for them once they get in there. Place is probably wired from end to end with HE buried in underground tunnels. They had years to prepare for it. 100% WillyOAM mentioned this the other day during his livestream but if they had the ability to plan an attack by land/air/sea I'm sure they have all sorts of shit planned when Israel rolls into Gaza. Boots on the ground in Gaza would be a 100% expected response. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:26:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Airstrikes are intensifying in Gaza - https://twitter.com/i/status/1711410778677408082 Fuck it. Time for theaterwide biotoxic and chemical warfare. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:26:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Doubt. The constitution is kind of specific in who the insurrectionists are. They would be the people wearing the foreign flags. Guys like Antifa, who are tied directly to Hamas, and openly support the Palestinians. All while wearing commie flags and attacking government buildings. Our government isn't stupid. Sooner rather than later they will have to realize that their only real chance of survival is to call us up to bail them out. The guys they supported during the summer of love showed up on their doorstep ready to drag them into the street and publicly hang them. They called up 30,000 national guard members instead of going down the commie path. If they got their news from anywhere other than CNN, they might've known what we know. Even the attorney general had a hard time believing what was actually happening in Portland until some people flagged him down in the street and showed him the videos. The minute they learn the truth they'll change their tune. Guaranteed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Originally Posted By TNC: Yes. Trump supporters will be rounded up. Doubt. The constitution is kind of specific in who the insurrectionists are. They would be the people wearing the foreign flags. Guys like Antifa, who are tied directly to Hamas, and openly support the Palestinians. All while wearing commie flags and attacking government buildings. Our government isn't stupid. Sooner rather than later they will have to realize that their only real chance of survival is to call us up to bail them out. The guys they supported during the summer of love showed up on their doorstep ready to drag them into the street and publicly hang them. They called up 30,000 national guard members instead of going down the commie path. If they got their news from anywhere other than CNN, they might've known what we know. Even the attorney general had a hard time believing what was actually happening in Portland until some people flagged him down in the street and showed him the videos. The minute they learn the truth they'll change their tune. Guaranteed. You are way too optimistic. They are not going to call us up to save them from their own creation. You don't understand how much their side hates us. Our government may not be stupid but they are most definitely malicious what's happening to this country is not an accident. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:27:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Seems like they missed the window of opportunity on Saturday, which hopefully means there will be a lot more good muslims after today. |
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Posted: 10/9/2023 12:28:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: BB]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FennRx: Saint Porphyrius was built in Gaza around 425 Yeah, not remotely close to the oldest much less third oldest. Just sayin, there are old churches there but not 'third oldest' by any stretch. There are churches in Rome older than that. |
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