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Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:30:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JT_26:
Strange since the third oldest church in the world is in Jordan.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqaba_Church
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Originally Posted By JT_26:
Originally Posted By FennRx:


Just read on X that IDF blew up the third oldest church in the world.  
Strange since the third oldest church in the world is in Jordan.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqaba_Church


It’s this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:30:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mindfull:
hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox
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Like they weren't planning to join in anyways.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:31:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fike:


It’s this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius
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Better update the wiki page. . .
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:31:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wyorock:
While it is easy to say since I don't have any loved ones being held hostage they need to be treated as already dead.  If you can rescue some that is great but you can't alter your plans overall on concerns they will kill hostages or hostages might be killed in bombing runs etc.  Sucks ass but it is the reality of the situation.
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It’s horribly sad but the hostages are never going to survive this - tactics at this point , can’t consider them anything other than casualties of war

Turn it all to glass immediately - including Iran
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:31:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:


It's is a setup. Iranian war planners know Israel would send the army into Gaza after the attack. They may have a surprise waiting for them once they get in there. Place is probably wired from end to end with HE buried in underground tunnels. They had years to prepare for it.
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Even a "fertilizer" and "fireworks" accident like they had in that Lebanon port a couple years back would be bad news.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:31:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fike:


It’s this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius
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Why would the IDF blow up a Greek Orthodox Church? Not like the Palestinians practice their faith there.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:32:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:



It's is a setup. Iranian war planners know Israel would send the army into Gaza after the attack. They may have a surprise waiting for them once they get in there. Place is probably wired from end to end with HE buried in underground tunnels. They had years to prepare for it.
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Originally Posted By Mindfull:
hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox



It's is a setup. Iranian war planners know Israel would send the army into Gaza after the attack. They may have a surprise waiting for them once they get in there. Place is probably wired from end to end with HE buried in underground tunnels. They had years to prepare for it.


Can they render it uninhabitable by artillery / drones/ airstrikes?

Do they need to put boots on the ground?
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:32:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
Good point. I guess I just want to see some payback.
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
I will believe it when I see it. All weekend we have been hearing how Israel, "We're really gonna do it this time!", "we're getting really close to doing it this time!". I hope they do but I'm having my doubts. They should have launched immediately and had 24 hour bombing runs over Gaza. The longer it goes, the less chance of retaliation it seems.
Seems to be moving fast

Hamas holds a large and unknown number of hostages and hides among civilians.  This isn't a bulldozing situation.  Large scale ground operations don't just happen

we don't even have a final body count of the initial attack, this is very fresh
Good point. I guess I just want to see some payback.


If they had immediately launched an air campaign, I would have been concerned that they were just going to hit them hard and go back home.

The fact that they're calling up reserves and holding back leads me to believe that they're planning a more substantial, prolonged operation.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:33:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By USMC_JA:


Never happen.  Those people are completely brainwashed since birth to hate Israel.  They only way to defeat them, as with any other fanatical group, is to completely break their will and ability to fight. We shall see if Israel has the ability to do the hard thing.
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Originally Posted By USMC_JA:
Originally Posted By inzane123:



They need to keep going until the people of Gaza load up the terrorists and their leaders and present them to Israel as a peace offering.


Never happen.  Those people are completely brainwashed since birth to hate Israel.  They only way to defeat them, as with any other fanatical group, is to completely break their will and ability to fight. We shall see if Israel has the ability to do the hard thing.

Historically, they have not had the will.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:33:45 PM EST
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The lightning, thunder, and bombs hitting Gaza makes it look surreal
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There's a bit of awesome in shooting the bad guys with a pistol while riding a motorcycle.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:33:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


"You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you!"

I hope she found in eternity the peace she sought.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By glklvr:
This has probably already been posted, this thread is moving so fast.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610107/Tattoo-artist-Shani-Louk-naked-body-Hamas-Israel.html

She was a pacifist who refused mandatory military service. That worked out for her.


"You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you!"

I hope she found in eternity the peace she sought.



Would her serving have saved her?  Not as long as we have people in positions to make decisions they refuse to make.

Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:34:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wineraner:


Brought to you by Boeing!  

Seriously.  Would anyone be stunned if the copy in those articles didn't come straight from Boeing's PR department?
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Regardless Israel by its own admission cannot conduct air ops into Iran without US support and or training and aircraft but the timelines worry Tel Aviv they don’t want to wait to 2025 or 2028 https://www.timesofisrael.com/iaf-fighter-jets-refuelers-hold-air-drill-with-us-forces-thought-to-focus-on-iran/amp/
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Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:34:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 18aBro72:


Dude on the motorcycle one handing it as he puts some rounds into a T, the two support guys in the car hop out to add to that Lead, car slowly rolls away from them.

I mean, who here who has been in the shit, hasn't had that happen to them?

I know it's happened to me a few time.
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A new drill to practice!  Note: lanyards DO have a place.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:34:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake:
I'm 8 minutes in and it's actually tough to watch.

This is classless shit even by NYC standards. Free Palestine "protestors" laughing and taunting Israeli supporters in NYC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Vw0ptT830

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Yep

Try that in a small town.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:35:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By pineywoodsbuck:


It’s horribly sad but the hostages are never going to survive this - tactics at this point , can’t consider them anything other than casualties of war

Turn it all to glass immediately - including Iran
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Originally Posted By wyorock:
While it is easy to say since I don't have any loved ones being held hostage they need to be treated as already dead.  If you can rescue some that is great but you can't alter your plans overall on concerns they will kill hostages or hostages might be killed in bombing runs etc.  Sucks ass but it is the reality of the situation.


It’s horribly sad but the hostages are never going to survive this - tactics at this point , can’t consider them anything other than casualties of war

Turn it all to glass immediately - including Iran

YES
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:36:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mercworx:



I believe those were hostages that were being held at their homes or in Kibbutzim that the military recovered. I’m less optimistic about those already taken to Gaza.
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2 posts, one way back in the thread showing young children in animal cages. Another about eep pages up from that, poster was telling about Israeli radio interviewing parents who received a call and heard their kids being shot.
After seeing and reading that i hope i don't have any interaction with anyone supporting the terrorists for a good long while
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:37:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VidaEterna:


This reminds me of the Marine company imbedded in a AFG village. The village elder, leader, whatever, was having sex with a 9 YO boy and was open about it. When asked if he would please stop, he said “what do you want me to do, screw the old women?”

The Marines were about to kill the elder, they were irate. The company commander told them to stand down, it’s their custom/way. I empathized with the Marines. Can you imagine being forced to work with that? To look the other way? No. What a cluster!
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Well, it kind of sounds like a lot of the rich and powerful here in the US... Didn't our own president shower with a 9yo girl?
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:37:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Vengeance6661:


Why would the IDF blow up a Greek Orthodox Church? Not like the Palestinians practice their faith there.
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Originally Posted By Vengeance6661:
Originally Posted By fike:


It’s this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius


Why would the IDF blow up a Greek Orthodox Church? Not like the Palestinians practice their faith there.


It’s a building in Gaza. I’ll give you two guesses.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:40:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FennRx:


Saint Porphyrius was built in Gaza around 425
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Originally Posted By FennRx:
Originally Posted By BB:

There just arent any churches that old in Israel outside of Jerusalem and the West Bank (Church of the Nativity, they arent gonna blow that up). Syria has a few, hell I think the oldest know Christian church is actually in Iran IIRC.


Saint Porphyrius was built in Gaza around 425


Armenia was the first nation-state to adopt Christianity as its state religion in 301 A.D., and of course there is a church or churches there at least that old.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:40:16 PM EST
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Hero parents make the ultimate sacrifice: Israeli couple save their ten-month-old twins by hiding them as Hamas smashed into their home... only to die trying to fight off the terrorists




Itay and Hadar Berdichevsky, both 30, only had mere seconds to react when they heard the gunmen trying to smash down their front door, knowing that if they didn't, their children would never have a future. The terrified parents frantically bundled their two babies into a hidden shelter moments before the Hamas terrorists stormed into their home, the Israeli ambassador to Colombia Gali Dagan revealed. Itay and Hadar 'bravely fought' the gunmen before they were shot and killed during their assault on Israel.

Continued
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:40:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Trump’s “tweets” have a tendency of coming true…

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/0D199E09-8136-412C-9988-B9D6AE40788F_jpe-2984861.JPG
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In this case he's only speaking the obvious. Eventually it'll happen.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:40:33 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:41:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Shockergd:


Russia has captured plenty of American and European weapons in Ukraine. Iran is directly trading with Russia, big surprise American stuff shows up.

Would be a way to get Americans to turn on Ukraine and support Russia and iran.
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
I didn't expect them to end up in Gaza, but everybody knew stuff was being siphoned off by war profiteers. There are first hand accounts of people cutting and running with hardware.


Russia has captured plenty of American and European weapons in Ukraine. Iran is directly trading with Russia, big surprise American stuff shows up.

Would be a way to get Americans to turn on Ukraine and support Russia and iran.


The idea that Ukraine is selling American supplied arms on the black market has been running on the Ukraine thread with regularity for a year.  It's the stuff of trolls and dimwits.  No surprise to see this BS turn up and be amplified here.  Surprising it took this long.

But there's this:

Note the dates!
US Leaves Behind Large Cache Of Deadly Missiles In Afghanistan That Can ‘Wreak Havoc’ On Neighbors
By  EurAsian Times Desk  - September 2, 2021

Afghanistan has turned into a veritable ammunition dump after US troops left the country ending what is seen as the world’s longest counter-terror operations.   While bigger military hardware like helicopters and armored vehicles were rendered useless by the American military before its departure, those seized by the Taliban, including ATGMs, are believed to be in working condition.  Russian Defence (not my spelling) Minister Sergey Shoigu claims the US left behind more than a hundred Javelin portable anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs) in the war-torn nation. These missiles have added to the weapons inventory of the Taliban.
US left behind over 100 Javelin portable anti-tank missile systems in Afghanistan, claims Russia The Javelin is a portable fire-and-forget anti-tank missile that uses automatic infrared guidance IANS Last DECCAN HERALD - Updated 31 August 2021, 07:02 IST

Russia's Defence (again, not my spelling) Minister Sergey Shoigu has claimed that the US left behind more than 100 Javelin portable anti-tank missile systems in Afghanistan.
News item continues here:
https://www.deccanherald.com/world/us-left-behind-over-100-javelin-portable-anti-tank-missile-systems-in-afghanistan-claims-russia-1025437.html
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Last week, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby admitted that the US administration has no idea of the inventory taken by the Taliban. "Obviously, we don't want to see any weapons or systems fall into the hands of people that would use them in such a way to harm our interests or those of our partners and allies," he said.

Obviously!
But guess where they ended up?
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:41:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:


Good. Why waste troops on a full scale invasion. Trap them in there.  
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Israel orders ‘complete siege’ of Gaza, cutting off food and electricity, and prepares for massive ground offensive ‘within 48 hours’ in response to Jewish state’s ‘worst day in history’



Now, Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant said authorities will cut electricity to the Gaza Strip and block the entry of food and fuel, declaring his troops are 'fighting barbaric terrorists and will respond accordingly'.

The measures will essentially enact siege-like conditions that will see the millions of Palestinians living in the tiny, fenced-in region begin to starve as they are attacked from the skies.

The announcement comes as Israeli soldiers backed by helicopters killed at least two gunmen who crossed the northern border from Lebanon today, in a sign of a possible new front opening as Israel's forces continued to battle Hamas terrorists to the south. Artillery shelling and gunfire were heard at Lebanon's southern border with Israel, a local journalist said.

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu formally declared war on Sunday and the army called up around 300,000 reservists, suggesting greater fighting lies ahead with a possible ground assault into Gaza.

Netanyahu has vowed to completely destroy 'the military and governing capabilities' of Hamas, which is deeply rooted in Gaza and has ruled unchallenged since 2007.


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Good. Why waste troops on a full scale invasion. Trap them in there.  



Yep.

Cut the water, cut the power, cut internet and cell service. Attack from the skies and from a distance with artillery etc.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:42:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mindfull:
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Lol, get wrecked Hez.  They missed their chance to join the party and are going to confine themselves to lots of mortars/rockets and the occasional infiltration raid.  Park some persistent aerial ISR over the border and play whack-a-mole counterbattery.  Israel isn't moving north if they've a brain in their heads, and Hez will get murdered if they go offensive.

I'm sure they'll nonetheless pull off an atrocity or three, all in an effort to get Israel to strike out at Iran right now, when the IDF is stretched.  Work the plan and trust that Iran's time for some pain is drawing near.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:42:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
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That last tube sinks about 6" with every round.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:43:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

Lol

Hey guys the thing we're probably going to do anyways? We're going to still do it, but film it
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
Originally Posted By thesilvercord:


Fuck these people. Just destroy the whole thing already.

Lol

Hey guys the thing we're probably going to do anyways? We're going to still do it, but film it


No kidding. Those hostages are probably already dead.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:43:26 PM EST
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Airburst low yield nukes could be an option.

You want a proper show of force, this is a proper show of force.


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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake:


Better update the wiki page. . .
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Originally Posted By fike:


It's this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius


Better update the wiki page. . .
It won't let me.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:43:51 PM EST
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Horrific, and not unexpected.

Sorry to say, but the Israeli ROE need to assume that the hostages are all but lost. Many, if not all, have already been tortured or worse.
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
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What do you think happens first, do the Palestinian's run out of hostages or civilians?

And with Hamas going after women, children, and the elderly there are no civilians in Gaza.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:44:43 PM EST
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Lebanon is basically a Hezbollah outpost now, tgey will support Hamas against Israel if it comes to Gaza invasion.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:44:51 PM EST
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Just read on X that IDF blew up the third oldest church in the world.  
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Guess they should have thought of that.

Tough shit.
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Originally Posted By GutWrench:


Allegedly they have pumped concrete into the main water supply lines. They have been without clean water for 24hrs or so. I suspect the electricity will go next. They are probably still getting intel from internet and phone traffic on enemy locations and movement so it’s in their favor to leave some of it in tact. Once they get a hold of things with the bombing I’m sure they will shut it all down and go in a lay further waste.
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Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By evilyoda:


Good. Why waste troops on a full scale invasion. Trap them in there.  


Allegedly they have pumped concrete into the main water supply lines. They have been without clean water for 24hrs or so. I suspect the electricity will go next. They are probably still getting intel from internet and phone traffic on enemy locations and movement so it’s in their favor to leave some of it in tact. Once they get a hold of things with the bombing I’m sure they will shut it all down and go in a lay further waste.



Enjoy your cholera outbreak!
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:45:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AngryNagant:
Like they weren't planning to join in anyways.
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Originally Posted By Mindfull:
hezbollah says they will officially join hamas in war against Israel if Israel enters Gaza per Fox
Like they weren't planning to join in anyways.


Good. Sounds like a two for one deal for the IDF. PSA Daily Deals: Middle Eastern edition.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:45:13 PM EST
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Time for filtration of the Palestinian children.  Sort them out and hand them over to Israeli or American parents.
Just like the Russians are doing to the Ukrainians.
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Yes, I know.  I didn't word my comment very well, I was more talking about the use of off the shelf, consumer grade not military grade.  The future is here and it's going to be interesting to say the least.
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Off the shelf is getting tapped for sure. Iran and China are heavily invested in drones. South Korea got caught off guard by North Korea drones so it’s definitely a period everyone is adjusting for
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I’m afraid the hostages were in for a bad deal regardless. I’m wishing for the breaches in the border walls to be plugged with stacked Palestinians.
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I wouldn't piss on Hamas if they were on fire.
Link Posted: 10/9/2023 12:45:54 PM EST
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Northern border, aimed into Lebanon


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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

Imagine Taiwan scenario
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Originally Posted By realwar:



After every event Joe always takes the next day off to rest. Also and to hide from the WH press on this weeks major event.

Imagine Taiwan scenario



Relax fellas.

Valerie Jarrett is not sleeping.  Everything is under control.
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Originally Posted By Yani:



Would her serving have saved her?  Not as long as we have people in positions to make decisions they refuse to make.

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Originally Posted By Yani:
Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By glklvr:
This has probably already been posted, this thread is moving so fast.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610107/Tattoo-artist-Shani-Louk-naked-body-Hamas-Israel.html

She was a pacifist who refused mandatory military service. That worked out for her.


"You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you!"

I hope she found in eternity the peace she sought.



Would her serving have saved her?  Not as long as we have people in positions to make decisions they refuse to make.



Maybe/Maybe Not.  My take on it is that "when God calls you home, you are going to come".  On the other hand, my tinnitus from military service is bad enough (mostly Aviation and both flavors of Artillery) that I really can't do indoor concert venues unless I want to be mostly deaf with splitting headache the next day and can only handle outdoor venues for a few hours at most.  If she had my hearing as a result of military service, she would probably have taken a break somewhere quiet to nurse a couple of Goody's or BC headache powders chased with a decent grade of whiskey by the time Hamas showed up.  Being an OFWG sometimes has advantages!
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Originally Posted By Ming_The_Merciless:


Maybe because missiles fly both ways?

I would focus on the near enemy killing my people & absolutely end that threat first before opening another front.  Wouldn't you?
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Originally Posted By Ming_The_Merciless:
Originally Posted By anono:

I'm surprised an MRBM hasn't been launched yet. Forget the jets. Israel has a pretty substantial inventory of very accurate missiles.


Maybe because missiles fly both ways?

I would focus on the near enemy killing my people & absolutely end that threat first before opening another front.  Wouldn't you?



No I would not.  Because Iran isn't a "new front", it is plainly the logistics hub.

When we refuse to use the greatest weapons in our arsenals out of fear of retaliation, we have allowed the other nation to dictate the terms of battle and effectively neuter us.  

Also Hamas is Iran.  Hit the hub, and hard.
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They need to keep going until the people of Gaza load up the terrorists and their leaders and present them to Israel as a peace offering.
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:



They need to keep going until the people of Gaza load up the terrorists and their leaders and present them to Israel as a peace offering.


That will never happen.

You are dealing with fanatical assholes that are professional victims….and a side of inbreeding.
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Because sieges are ugly as fuck, where non-combatants die long before the assholes who need killing, and would quickly turn world opinion against the Israelis.  As the usual global media outlets are no doubt fiending to do.

They don't have time to allow a WW2 Leningrad to fester.  Too many cameras.  Not to mention the horrific loss of life.  Potentially 2 million people starving to death on TV, will get the UN and US against them before 1/10 of them die.  And all of those deaths would just be women and kids.
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In Biden terms put a media “Lid” on it. No media. No comms. Cut off water, electricity, all roads blocked. Systematically target Hamas with bombs delivered from aircraft.  Let them rot in there.  Thats what they wanted. Their own country.
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