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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:36:29 PM EDT
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From Aljazeera:
"Fears of war with Israel grow in Lebanon after rockets exchanged At least three Hezbollah members, an Israeli senior officer and two Palestinian fighters have been killed so far in the cross-border fighting..." "...But since the Palestinian group Hamas launched an unprecedented operation against Israel on Saturday, residents in Lebanon have looked on with trepidation. The tiny Levant country of just 6 million people – already reeling from a historic economic meltdown – is on the cusp of conflict following an uptick in cross-border violence with Israel. On Monday, Israeli shelling killed three members of the Lebanese Shia group Hezbollah, according to a statement from the Iran-backed organisation. An Israeli deputy commander and two Palestinian fighters in southern Lebanon were also killed. The next day, Hezbollah fired a guided missile at an Israeli military vehicle. Israel retaliated by hitting a Hezbollah observation post that belongs to the mainly Shia armed group..." |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:36:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Just one. I'm sure their is a nuke capable sub somewhere in the area. That solves the problem permanently. Now, I don't think that will actually ever happen. I don't think even the US has the ability to take out 150,000 rockets without many many re-arms. One carrier group isn't going to cut it. It sure as fuck is a serious amount of firepower, but a number of munitions that high spread out all over the places is impossible without nukes. i have to wonder then, will usa be to blame for not protecting them after giving them so much? and no we cant nuke lebanon. even if nukes were allowed there. wouldnt that also technically sort of nuke the entire region if not from fallout from all hell breaking loose all at once? nukes seem to be off the table if thinking clearly. its been said alot lately. isreal calls it their samson option that if they get over run they just nuke the entire region themselves and others all at once with at least 40 nukes. google samson option for more info. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:36:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:37:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:37:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Confirmation the US Embassy in Beirut has NOT closed
Awesome. We should be packing up shop in these countries. With potato in chief we’ll have multiple benghazis this time next week. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:37:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: I asked because I can't seem to find any current information. In the past, it's been public knowledge where we have nuclear weapons stored outside the U.S. The latest I can find is from May 2021 |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:38:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:38:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Time heals all wounds. Do you think Frankfurt airport will be renamed Adolf International or there will be a chain of restaurants named Hitlers hotdogs in 700 years? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By cash50: Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: People speak in absolutes like there is as actual victory. There is no wiping out Hamas. All Israel can do is impact their abilities for a large scale event like what happened. The tunnels, urban terrain, and multi national support create a network that will go on forever. As long as Iran can recruit people to kill Jews, there will always be a threat. That is fact. I saw this firsthand in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anything short of destroying every tunnel, clearing every house and killing every terrorist in a city of million people, then there is no wiping them out. Iran and Palestine have created a situation that can only be solved by nuclear weapons and the killing of thousands and thousands of innocent people. Measuring Against The Linchpin Itwas a method of determining which enemy civilians would be beheaded, used by the Mongols and other tribes that lived in the Mongolian plateau. Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. Genghis Khan was a genocidal rapist and warlord of extreme brutality. It is a travesty that his name is not brought up when Hitler's name is. I'm glad Israel isn't doing that. Time heals all wounds. Do you think Frankfurt airport will be renamed Adolf International or there will be a chain of restaurants named Hitlers hotdogs in 700 years? There was a Swastika-themed restaurant in India about 15-18 years ago called "Hitler's." It was really weird. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kcolg30: What would be the damage yeld between the Phosphorus and the High Exp? One better than the other? More penetrating power? Two different functions WP=Smoke and Fire HE=Blast and Fragments. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:39:21 PM EDT
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Aljazeera:
Alerts warning of incoming “hostile aircraft” are issued across northern Israel with residents told to shelter in place and officials suggesting as many as 15 paragliders entered. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:39:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Confirmation the US Embassy in Beirut has NOT closed
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:39:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Iraqi Politican must be a special kinda of stupid. Iran wields influence via the majority population in Iraq which is Shia while the Kurds and Sunni innthe west of Iraq oppose it. There are some internal squabbles among Iraqi Shia who don’t like being so beholden to Iran. Their government could fracture at a moment’s notice https://amp.france24.com/en/live-news/20221211-iran-strengthens-political-economic-hold-over-iraq  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Alerts warning of incoming “hostile aircraft” are issued across northern Israel with residents told to shelter in place and officials suggesting as many as 15 paragliders entered. Time to shoot some skeet |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShooterPatriot: Two different functions WP=Smoke and Fire HE=Blast and Fragments. The way I've heard it described, white phosphorus is a hellish thing to get hit with. At least with HE, you might die instantly and be spared the excruciating pain. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:41:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROCK6: We just had our ops and intel brief, the deputy mentioned the conflict and warned about misinformation, specifically not conflating Hamas with the Palestinian people. I know this is a strategic talking point to avoid sympathies and pulling in other Muslim nations, but it’s a serious miscalculation. Hamas are Palestinians! Are there women and children who might be innocent? Sure, but if you lie with the dog, don’t be surprised when you get flea-bombed, and bastards routinely breed bastards... ROCK6 Yep. Nits turn into fleas |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:41:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Not true at all Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Klugman: No need for a wall after the IDF is done in Gaza. No one will be left and no one coming back. Not true at all I think there will always be muslims coming to attack Israel. By air, land and sea. After Israel is done. I think that a deep and wide and clear DMZ will be in Israel's best interest. Nothing standing other than maybe some short-neat wine windrows. Perhaps dig deep trenches parallels to the border and fill with concrete rubble to slow down would be tunnel construction. Lots of listening devices sub surface. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:41:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dixie2009: None of this needs to be televised. War in the old days was “better” for lack of wording. The fact that media is their videoing etc and are still alive is astounding. The videos of the attacks on civilians, many made by the terrorists, are helping galvanize people against Gaza. Very useful IMO. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:41:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:42:38 PM EDT
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Either a flare or something got shot out of the sky in Gaza.
edit: another one. Must be flares. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: I wonder if Palestinian poeple that stay behind in their homes can sacrifice a lamb and paint their door frames with the blood to save themselves.  The Angel of Death is going to be busy for sure. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:42:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax: I never served, but I don't care to watch this war either. I haven't been watching anything on UKR, too. Shit blows up, people die and then it ends in a way that sets up for the next war. I do hope that Israel pulps their attackers and makes them as close to nonexistent as possible. Lots of useful stuff to be learned from it. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:43:04 PM EDT
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Aljazeera:
Rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel worrisome, says White House’s Kirby The United States is watching developments on the Lebanon-Israel border closely and does not want to see the conflict widened or expanded, says White House national security spokesman John Kirby. “We have seen rocket fire coming from southern Lebanon … into northern Israel. We obviously are watching this with great concern. We don’t want to see this conflict widened or expanded,” Kirby says in an interview with MSNBC. He adds that it is not in Israel’s interest to have a second front to fight and defend. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:43:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:43:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: They are pretty damn good ones as most are fervent anti-communists Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By AlamTX: Originally Posted By RancidAR: Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: God, I wish Alpha 66 was still active. Fuck the Godless Communists in m patria. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/1000010305_jpg-2986735.JPG All the good Cubans fled from the island decades ago They are pretty damn good ones as most are fervent anti-communists Meh. A few really old ones. Most under 80 aren’t really very fervent. Better than an equal amount of Haitians or some other island country at least. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:45:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bloviator: This is something everyone needs to watch. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bloviator: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Worth the watch
This is something everyone needs to watch. I remember seeing that at the time. Just watch it again. It's chilling just the way she turns from being a pretense of friendly to just so cold and honest at the end. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:45:57 PM EDT
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American death toll in Israel rises to 22 — State Dept
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:46:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Wasn't there some drama a few years ago about nukes stored in Turkey at a NATO base? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By Piratepast40: I asked because I can't seem to find any current information. In the past, it's been public knowledge where we have nuclear weapons stored outside the U.S. The latest I can find is from May 2021 Yes. There was a rumor that Turkey was basically holding the warheads hostage - not permitting us to withdraw them. That might have been "Q" nonsense. I can't remember. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:46:10 PM EDT
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Looks like a couple of Polish air force planes are incoming to Israel.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:46:12 PM EDT
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Aljazeera:
Manned paragliders have landed northern Israel: Regional council From Hoda Abdel Hamid in West Jerusalem The head of the regional council in northern Israel says 15 to 20 manned paragliders have landed inside the area from across the border and a manhunt is under way. The Israeli military has only said there were possible infiltrators. But the regional council didn’t mince words, he actually says there had been paragliders that flew over that border carrying people and now they were looking for those people and that’s why he was telling all the inhabitants of that area to stay inside and shelter. Each paraglider would carry one maybe two people. This is a major escalation if this all proves to be true. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:46:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Either a flare or something got shot out of the sky in Gaza. edit: another one. Must be flares. 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:47:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:47:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: It doesn’t hurt to be prepared but we’ve had a land war raging in Europe for almost 2 years that many here assured us would lead to imminent WWIII/US troops on the ground/NATO involvement. The Palestinians haven’t done a very good job playing the victim so far and in reality nobody gives enough of a fuck about them to actually step in and do anything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By GunGuyMP: This may seem silly, paranoid or a combination of both but with Israel about to step into Gaza things are going to happen really fast. Not saying I think anyone should go max credit cards on preps but have some simple plans in place. Start saving a little more cash. If you carry make sure you are carrying daily where you can. Have a plan with your family for what to do if you're away from home and shit gets sideways. Have a plan for what to do if shit goes sideways too close to home. Just simple shit like that can go a long way. Things are going to get crazy in the next 48 hours. This war is undoubtedly going to expand beyond Israel and Hamas. To what extent nobody knows. Domestically there are a lot of people that sympathize with this disgusting behavior and will want to lash out at US support for Israel. It doesn’t hurt to be prepared but we’ve had a land war raging in Europe for almost 2 years that many here assured us would lead to imminent WWIII/US troops on the ground/NATO involvement. The Palestinians haven’t done a very good job playing the victim so far and in reality nobody gives enough of a fuck about them to actually step in and do anything. I think this has way way more potential to blow up around the world than Russia/Ukraine did. Plus that word is still going on and everything has a cumulative effect. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:47:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIllumination rounds |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Alerts warning of incoming “hostile aircraft” are issued across northern Israel with residents told to shelter in place and officials suggesting as many as 15 paragliders entered. Shouldn't the residents be told to come out and shoot the paragliders? Better civilians shoot them in the air or while landing than wait for them to link up on the ground and attempt breaching your safe room. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:48:13 PM EDT
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I guess the only way is for their 300k troops to simply take ground and kill fighters until they flee or die.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:48:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel worrisome, says White House’s Kirby The United States is watching developments on the Lebanon-Israel border closely and does not want to see the conflict widened or expanded, says White House national security spokesman John Kirby. “We have seen rocket fire coming from southern Lebanon … into northern Israel. We obviously are watching this with great concern. We don’t want to see this conflict widened or expanded,” Kirby says in an interview with MSNBC. He adds that it is not in Israel’s interest to have a second front to fight and defend. Might be a little late for that one there johnny boy |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel worrisome, says White House's Kirby The United States is watching developments on the Lebanon-Israel border closely and does not want to see the conflict widened or expanded, says White House national security spokesman John Kirby. "We have seen rocket fire coming from southern Lebanon into northern Israel. We obviously are watching this with great concern. We don't want to see this conflict widened or expanded," Kirby says in an interview with MSNBC. He adds that it is not in Israel's interest to have a second front to fight and defend. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:49:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Shouldn't the residents be told to come out and shoot the paragliders? Better civilians shoot them in the air or while landing than wait for them to link up on the ground and attempt breaching your safe room. With what weapons? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Manned paragliders have landed northern Israel: Regional council From Hoda Abdel Hamid in West Jerusalem The head of the regional council in northern Israel says 15 to 20 manned paragliders have landed inside the area from across the border and a manhunt is under way. The Israeli military has only said there were possible infiltrators. But the regional council didn’t mince words, he actually says there had been paragliders that flew over that border carrying people and now they were looking for those people and that’s why he was telling all the inhabitants of that area to stay inside and shelter. Each paraglider would carry one maybe two people. This is a major escalation if this all proves to be true. Hunt them down and kill them |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:50:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:52:36 PM EDT
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A number of local media reports about the transfer of the most combat-ready pro-Iranian formations from Syrian Deir ez-Zor in the direction of Damascus with subsequent transfer to Lebanon or directly across the border with Israel in the Golan Heights.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: The US will bitch out if anyone else gets involved and Iran knows it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel worrisome, says White House's Kirby The United States is watching developments on the Lebanon-Israel border closely and does not want to see the conflict widened or expanded, says White House national security spokesman John Kirby. "We have seen rocket fire coming from southern Lebanon into northern Israel. We obviously are watching this with great concern. We don't want to see this conflict widened or expanded," Kirby says in an interview with MSNBC. He adds that it is not in Israel's interest to have a second front to fight and defend. I really hope not. The last couple of days have seemed like a different tone, even from dems. KJP even called out omar and talib on their pro pali BS and CNN was discussing the antisemitism in the dem party in a "I really have to face reality" kind of way, everything is going upside down |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:53:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Watching videos it is becoming clear to me that individuals resisting with firearms could make a difference (some did). Also not seeing much in the way of squad level skills from the attackers in any videos. Of course since they were mostly hunting down fleeing and often dispersed civilians, the approach of splitting up to find them makes sense but makes the terrorists open to counter attack. Not disputing that armed civs could have made a decent dent in casualties, but the squads tasked with attacks on the kibbutz were equipped with heavy weapons and explosives. Additionally, detailed maps, comms lists and IDF equipment cards were found on dead terrorists. Pics from the South First Responders telegram showed a bunch or rpgs, grenades and arson used to kill barricaded civilians. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:54:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Aljazeera: Manned paragliders have landed northern Israel: Regional council From Hoda Abdel Hamid in West Jerusalem The head of the regional council in northern Israel says 15 to 20 manned paragliders have landed inside the area from across the border and a manhunt is under way. The Israeli military has only said there were possible infiltrators. But the regional council didn’t mince words, he actually says there had been paragliders that flew over that border carrying people and now they were looking for those people and that’s why he was telling all the inhabitants of that area to stay inside and shelter. Each paraglider would carry one maybe two people. This is a major escalation if this all proves to be true. Al Jazeera has spent the last few days not holding back on pumping up anything anti Israeli. Not surprising given their origin, but it would be prudent to question anything from them on this conflict. |
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