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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:36:28 PM EST
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We sure are living in interesting times
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:38:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Terrorist activities in the Jenin refugee camp.

Link is to a very detailed report from the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center about terrorist activities in the Jenin refuge camp.  

Jenin, and especially the Jenin refugee camp, has become a focus for terrorism and has been used by many Palestinians as a base for terrorist attacks, including attacks carried out inside Israeli territory.

The Jenin refugee camp, with its population of about 11,000, is controlled by military-terrorist wings, led by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s Jerusalem Brigades, and has become a center for terrorism in Judea and Samaria. Their activities include the recent attempts to shoot at Israeli communities near the border and attempts, so far unsuccessful, to manufacture rockets and launch them into Israeli territory.

Terrorist operatives’ methods have evolved and their organizational, intelligence and operational capabilities have developed and improved. They have upgraded their ability to monitor security force activities, study the IDF’s methods and develop countermeasures, hold exercises and train operatives.

Terrorists in Jenin use Telegram, Twitter, and Facebook communicate when IDF units try to come in the camp.  They take and circulate pictures of any 'undercover' special ops units and follow their progress through the camp.  They also use muzzeins to communicate Israeli presence and give orders.

To defeat drones they hang sheets of plastic over alleys and streets.  They have their own "fun house" where they carry out live-fire exercises and practice room clearing.

They've come a long way from the Molotov cocktails and rocks of 30 years ago.

Camouflaging the streets of the Jenin refugee camp
(@jenencamb Telegram channel, June 23, 2023).
https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2023/06/word-image-1687860397558.png


Calls [to local residents] “Go out into the streets of Jenin now” (jeninfirst2023 Facebook page, March 9, 2023).
https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2023/06/word-image-1687860398475.png

“All fighters are requested not to go to the market and to be cautious” (@jeninal3mliaat Telegram channel).
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“The occupation forces are retreating from al-Nassera Street, towing the Skoda [used by the disguised special forces] with them” (Kapsola Twitter account, March 16, 2023).
https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2023/06/word-image-1687860405001.png

IDF special forces in action (jeninalhadath Facebook page, March 16, 2023).
https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2023/06/word-image-1687860419672-245x300.png

“The occupation forces are positioning snipers on the al-Jamal building...use extreme caution” (Shabakat Jenin al-L’il’amiya alternative Facebook page).
https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2023/06/word-image-1687860429049.png

Operatives engaged in urban warfare and storming a building (Fahmi Kanan’s Twitter account, April 25, 2023; @abwmslmh357195, April 29, 2023).
https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2023/06/word-image-1687860450188.jpeg

One of their martyrs
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Suicide bomber unit
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LOL.  I bought all these cool rifles on the EE and they put me on a suicide bomber unit.  

Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:42:15 PM EST
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This is from Wiki


Nuclear warhead storage
Incirlik airbase hosts approximately fifty B61 nuclear bombs.[10]

Laicie Heeley, a fellow with the Budgeting for Foreign Affairs and Defense program at the Stimson Center said in 2016:[42]

From a security point of view, it’s a roll of the dice to continue to have approximately 50 of America’s nuclear weapons stationed at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, just 70 miles from the Syrian border. These weapons have zero utility on the European battlefield and today are more of a liability than asset to our NATO allies.
During the 2019 Turkish offensive into north-eastern Syria, tensions between Turkey and the US moved the B61 nuclear bombs, stored by the US at the İncirlik airbase, back into focus. A removal was again debated, but Vipin Narang from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology pointed out, that the process of moving them under these circumstances poses risks and the weapons "could be vulnerable to accidents, theft or attack".[43]
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I can neither confirm nor deny...



This is from Wiki


Nuclear warhead storage
Incirlik airbase hosts approximately fifty B61 nuclear bombs.[10]

Laicie Heeley, a fellow with the Budgeting for Foreign Affairs and Defense program at the Stimson Center said in 2016:[42]

From a security point of view, it’s a roll of the dice to continue to have approximately 50 of America’s nuclear weapons stationed at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, just 70 miles from the Syrian border. These weapons have zero utility on the European battlefield and today are more of a liability than asset to our NATO allies.
During the 2019 Turkish offensive into north-eastern Syria, tensions between Turkey and the US moved the B61 nuclear bombs, stored by the US at the İncirlik airbase, back into focus. A removal was again debated, but Vipin Narang from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology pointed out, that the process of moving them under these circumstances poses risks and the weapons "could be vulnerable to accidents, theft or attack".[43]


Not long ago Turkey wouldn't let us take them out of the base, around the time of the coup I believe
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:42:24 PM EST
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Louder than a Tu-95 Bear?
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They are the loudest aircraft I've ever heard. They used to to touch and goes at Forbes in Topeka. They were deafening.


Louder than a Tu-95 Bear?


I don't know. I've never heard a Bear.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:49:35 PM EST
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Iran's Direct Threat To U.S: 'Ceasefire In Gaza Or You Will Be Hit Hard'

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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:51:37 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:54:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Iran's Direct Threat To U.S: 'Ceasefire In Gaza Or You Will Be Hit Hard'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJWbnjJrGU



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Odd blunt announcement. But maybe the only kind these middle easterners understand.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 6:59:33 PM EST
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Odd blunt announcement. But maybe the only kind these middle easterners understand.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By realwar:
Iran's Direct Threat To U.S: 'Ceasefire In Gaza Or You Will Be Hit Hard'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJWbnjJrGU



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Odd blunt announcement. But maybe the only kind these middle easterners understand.

I would like to see all 24 tubes emptied on Iranian military and governmental targets.  Same with China.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:02:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Skywarner:


Not today, he’s on his regular weekend vacation.
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Another strongly worded response coming from the Potato


Not today, he’s on his regular weekend vacation.

Sitting on the beach, earning 20%.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:02:13 PM EST
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I thought each carrier strike group had at least 2 subs included. They are probably smaller fast attacks w/CSG.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:18:08 PM EST
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Protestors have just stormed a military base in Turkey. News on this?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:19:25 PM EST
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Protestors have just stormed a military base in Turkey. News on this?
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Protestors? Mostly peaceful or are we calling them terrorists yet.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:30:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By yodude:
Protestors have just stormed a military base in Turkey. News on this?
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Pro-Palestinian crowds try to storm air base housing U.S. troops in Turkey
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:31:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By alaskan_9974:

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That would be the final straw for the dems.  Half their family wants the palies to win.  Then Biden gives the protesters in a muslim country nukes because he didn't do shit because it was after 4PM....
But the MSM will tell us this is a good thing for reasons....
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:35:07 PM EST
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That thing carries around 80 nuclear warheads.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:35:21 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:38:26 PM EST
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You would think... otherwise that shit would have likely been shot down.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:39:03 PM EST
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You would think... otherwise that shit would have likely been shot down.
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By both sides.  
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:39:31 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:40:10 PM EST
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Biden Deputy NSA Jon Finer: Biden "Urging" Dems Not To Support Bipartisan Israel Funding Legislation

Biden Deputy NSA Jon Finer: Biden "Urging" Dems Not To Support Bipartisan Israel Funding Legislation
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:40:58 PM EST
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Iron dome malfunctioning -

https://twitter.com/i/status/1721327703020945649
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:43:11 PM EST
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IDF 'cuts Gaza in two' amid internet blackout

Israel’s military said on Sunday it had divided the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip in two as it pressed ahead with its ground offensive in the enclave as phone and internet services went down.

“Today there is north Gaza and south Gaza,” Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari told reporters, calling it a “significant stage” in Israel’s war against Hamas.

Israeli media reported that troops were expected to enter Gaza City, in the enclave’s north, within 48 hours after completely encircling it.

The developments came as Gaza endured its third total communications outage since the start of the war late on Sunday.

The “new collapse in connectivity” reported by internet access advocacy group NetBlocks.org and confirmed by Palestinian telecom company Paltel, which blamed Israeli attacks for the blackout.
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:43:21 PM EST
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I'm in for a one-way ticket...
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:44:03 PM EST
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Excellent.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:45:02 PM EST
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Yeah, they pretend to be sad about the roadways....
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:48:55 PM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKYHl1gu_U
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Originally Posted By yodude:
Protestors have just stormed a military base in Turkey. News on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKYHl1gu_U

i assume this is adana/incirlik?
Whats the US mission there?  I went there 2x in the 90s with AWACS, surely Provide Comfort still isnt a thing?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:50:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sh768:


Odd blunt announcement. But maybe the only kind these middle easterners understand.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By realwar:
Iran's Direct Threat To U.S: 'Ceasefire In Gaza Or You Will Be Hit Hard'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJWbnjJrGU



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Odd blunt announcement. But maybe the only kind these middle easterners understand.


it’s probably also a message to Russia, Iran and China.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:50:39 PM EST
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Israel said to push back on US advice for reducing Gaza civilian casualties

American officials have advised Israel to take several steps to reduce firepower in the Gaza Strip and take a more exacting approach to its war against the Hamas terror group, pointing to its own experiences in Iraq two decades ago, according to a report Saturday.

However, Israeli officials see much of the advice as irrelevant, and the head of the Israel Defense Forces rejected the advice as liable to cause even more casualties, according to a separate Israeli report Saturday

According to Israel’s Channel 13 news, during a meeting with Blinken on Friday, IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi countered that there would be even more casualties if the military took the advice of American generals sent to advise Israel on the operation in Gaza.
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:53:40 PM EST
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I'm in for a one-way ticket...
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I'm in for a one-way ticket...


I wouldn't want you to put yourself out. I will split it with you.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:55:17 PM EST
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My 86 year old, devoutly Catholic mother was asking this same question last night.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:58:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ParityError:


Because Hamas are             terrorists, you vapid     !
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Because Hamas are             terrorists, you vapid     !

Anti-colonialists will say that you can't be a terrorist to colonizers.

Link Posted: 11/5/2023 7:59:20 PM EST
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My 86 year old, devoutly Catholic mother was asking this same question last night.
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Originally Posted By NY12ga:
Where does the Vatican stand on all this? Are they really not aware of what “first Saturday then Sunday” means?



My 86 year old, devoutly Catholic mother was asking this same question last night.


The silence says it all.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:04:26 PM EST
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Hamas planned for massacre during Passover, Iran forced delay - report

Hamas's mass infiltration and massacre of Israelis on October 7 was originally intended to take place during last Passover's Seder meal, Israeli journalist Ben Caspit reported on Sunday evening.

As per the report, Iran decided to delay the organized assault on civilians to Simchat Torah due to reasons that are unclear. However, Caspit speculated, it could have been delayed due to informal negotiations with the United States which led to $6 billion being freed up for Iran in September.

The report noted that the information was uncovered during the interrogation of Hamas terrorists who participated in the October 7 massacre.
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:12:31 PM EST
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i assume this is adana/incirlik?
Whats the US mission there?  I went there 2x in the 90s with AWACS, surely Provide Comfort still isnt a thing?
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Originally Posted By yodude:
Protestors have just stormed a military base in Turkey. News on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKYHl1gu_U

i assume this is adana/incirlik?
Whats the US mission there?  I went there 2x in the 90s with AWACS, surely Provide Comfort still isnt a thing?


I believe there are 50 B61 Nuclear bombs housed at Incerlik.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:13:01 PM EST
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Ep 9: IDF Raid Helmet POV, Hamas Fighters In Beit Hanoun, Israel Lebanon Border Heating Up And More
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:14:00 PM EST
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Israel said to push back on US advice for reducing Gaza civilian casualties

American officials have advised Israel to take several steps to reduce firepower in the Gaza Strip and take a more exacting approach to its war against the Hamas terror group, pointing to its own experiences in Iraq two decades ago, according to a report Saturday.

However, Israeli officials see much of the advice as irrelevant, and the head of the Israel Defense Forces rejected the advice as liable to cause even more casualties, according to a separate Israeli report Saturday

According to Israel’s Channel 13 news, during a meeting with Blinken on Friday, IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi countered that there would be even more casualties if the military took the advice of American generals sent to advise Israel on the operation in Gaza.


I’d also reject our Iraq/Afghanistan “ROE” advice. It got a lot of American soldiers killed.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:14:48 PM EST
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The silence says it all.
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Originally Posted By KanTex:
Originally Posted By NY12ga:
Where does the Vatican stand on all this? Are they really not aware of what “first Saturday then Sunday” means?



My 86 year old, devoutly Catholic mother was asking this same question last night.


The silence says it all.


Commies support Hamas.

Pope is a commie. Put 2 and 2 together.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:16:57 PM EST
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I would like to see all 24 tubes emptied on Iranian military and governmental targets.  Same with China.
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Joe Biden is not going to nuke Iran or China, and the Iranians and Chinese know it.

This is just for show.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:17:02 PM EST
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EDIT: Might be training footage.  But one can always dream...
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:18:24 PM EST
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That thing carries around 80 nuclear warheads.
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Originally Posted By Ascendent:

I would like to see all 24 tubes emptied on Iranian military and governmental targets.  Same with China.



That thing carries around 80 nuclear warheads.

Attachment Attached File
.  Yeah , they may learn the meaning of what Jules is saying
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:19:09 PM EST
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The silence says it all.
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I mean, the Pope would probably call for an end to hostilities and a peaceful resolution. I don't know what else anybody would expect.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:21:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Biden Deputy NSA Jon Finer: Biden "Urging" Dems Not To Support Bipartisan Israel Funding Legislation

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Nice f them to choose sides. And let everyone know now.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:21:31 PM EST
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They wanted their Biden payout.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:22:21 PM EST
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I mean, the Pope would probably call for an end to hostilities and a peaceful resolution. I don't know what else anybody would expect.
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:


The silence says it all.
I mean, the Pope would probably call for an end to hostilities and a peaceful resolution. I don't know what else anybody would expect.


I would not expect silence, unless that was chosen to speak volumes.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:25:51 PM EST
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He already talked about it earlier in the conflict.

https://www.usccb.org/news/2023/pope-condemns-terrorism-expresses-concern-gaza-civilians

He's never going to call for total Palestinian death. There are 80,000 Palestinian Catholics.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:26:15 PM EST
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I mean, the Pope would probably call for an end to hostilities and a peaceful resolution. I don't know what else anybody would expect.
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:


The silence says it all.
I mean, the Pope would probably call for an end to hostilities and a peaceful resolution. I don't know what else anybody would expect.

He's a south american liberation theology catholic.

That means marxist.

I would be surprised if that particular variety of the ideology isn't also anticolonist too.

He is clearly and repetitively subverting classic RCC tradition. RCC tradition means less to him than his ideology does.

I'd be surprised if he call a spade a spade in this case.

Rather anarchic behavior on his part.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:27:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:


The silence says it all.
I mean, the Pope would probably call for an end to hostilities and a peaceful resolution. I don't know what else anybody would expect.


The Vatican released a statement from the Pope on Oct. 11th.  It's pretty standard for the pontiff.    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2023-10/pope-francis-israel-gaza-war-appeal-holy-land.html  

He cautioned about the complete siege that Israel immediately and rightly set in place but added, “it is the right of those who are attacked to defend themselves”.

I'm a pretty good Catholic and this pope is not my favorite.  I sure miss St. John Paul II.  I follow his lead and refer to the children of Abraham as our "elder brothers".
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:31:22 PM EST
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Joe Biden is not going to nuke Iran or China, and the Iranians and Chinese know it.

This is just for show.
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Originally Posted By Ascendent:

I would like to see all 24 tubes emptied on Iranian military and governmental targets.  Same with China.
Joe Biden is not going to nuke Iran or China, and the Iranians and Chinese know it.

This is just for show.


To be honest, we don't know which Ohio class ship arrived.  It could be one of the 4 that is a Tomahawk cruise missile carrier with 154 missiles.   That could be used.

https://www.military.com/equipment/ssgn-ohio-class-guided-missile-submarine


Combined, the four SSGNs represent more than half of the Submarine Force’s vertical launch payload capacity with each SSGN capable of carrying up to 154 Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles. The missiles are loaded in seven-shot Multiple-All-Up-Round Canisters (MACs) in up to 22 missile tubes. These missile tubes can also accommodate additional stowage canisters for SOF equipment, food, and other consumables to extend the submarines’ ability to remain forward deployed in support of combatant commander’s tasking. The missile tubes are also able to accommodate future payloads such as new types of missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles, and unmanned undersea vehicles.

The SSGNs have the capacity to host up to 66 SOF personnel at a time. Additional berthing was installed in the missile compartment to accommodate the added personnel, and other measures have been taken to extend the amount of time that the SOF forces can spend deployed aboard the SSGNs. The two forward most missile tubes were permanently converted to lock-out chambers that allow clandestine insertion and retrieval of SOF personnel. Each lock-out chamber can also accommodate a Dry Deck Shelter (DDS), enhancing the SSGNs' SOF capabilities.

During conversion, each SSGN received the Common Submarine Radio Room and two High-Data-Rate antennas for significantly enhanced communication capabilities. These additions allow each SSGN to serve as a forward-deployed, clandestine Small Combatant Joint Command Center.
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

He's a south american liberation theology catholic.

That means marxist.

I would be surprised if that particular variety of the ideology isn't also anticolonist too.

He is clearly and repetitively subverting classic RCC tradition. RCC tradition means less to him than his ideology does.

I'd be surprised if he call a spade a spade in this case.

Rather anarchic behavior on his part.
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Classic RCC tradition wouldn't really be any more beneficial to Israel than the Church's post Vatican II shift. Getting into that level of nitty gritty is getting outside the scope of this thread though.
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Biden Deputy NSA Jon Finer: Biden "Urging" Dems Not To Support Bipartisan Israel Funding Legislation

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Why is anybody associated with the NSA appearing on TV?
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