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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:39:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:



That thing carries around 80 nuclear warheads.
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Yeah bring in 2
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:40:20 PM EST
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Clear them all out.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:40:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Croak:


EDIT: Might be training footage.  But one can always dream...
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People are claiming that but the guy has a normal sleeve and black gloves.

Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:47:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


To be honest, we don't know which Ohio class ship arrived.  It could be one of the 4 that is a Tomahawk cruise missile carrier with 154 missiles.   That could be used.

https://www.military.com/equipment/ssgn-ohio-class-guided-missile-submarine


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That would make more sense if you're looking for a way to take out missile launch sites.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:50:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


To be honest, we don't know which Ohio class ship arrived.  It could be one of the 4 that is a Tomahawk cruise missile carrier with 154 missiles.   That could be used.

https://www.military.com/equipment/ssgn-ohio-class-guided-missile-submarine


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I got the opportunity to tour the Wyoming years ago. It was just before a deployment. One thing
stuck out to me. They had cases of food stuck everywhere they could, I mean all over.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:52:18 PM EST
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Assholes started to block the road as soon as it was a green light.  Chanting free Palestine.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:55:01 PM EST
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Assholes started to block the road as soon as it was a green light.  Chanting free Palestine.
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This is why I want my own D9 Killdozer!
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:55:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 8:58:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Voland:



Blinken is a piece of shit.

Also, this is my daily "fuck hamas"...
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
The Obama Effect -

Blinken makes unannounced visit to West Bank to meet Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas

While in the West Bank, Blinken told Palestinian President Mahmoud that Palestinians in Gaza "must not be forcibly displaced".



Blinken is a piece of shit.

Also, this is my daily "fuck hamas"...


You are 100% on point. No negotiation with terrorists. Just kill them. Period!
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:00:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
That would make more sense if you're looking for a way to take out missile launch sites.
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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


To be honest, we don't know which Ohio class ship arrived.  It could be one of the 4 that is a Tomahawk cruise missile carrier with 154 missiles.   That could be used.

https://www.military.com/equipment/ssgn-ohio-class-guided-missile-submarine


That would make more sense if you're looking for a way to take out missile launch sites.


Yep, among other uses for lots of cruise missiles, plus it can act as another command node in the region.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:05:15 PM EST
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Sorry officer I was I fear for my life and mashed the gas pedal as hard as I could to get away since they thought I was Jewish.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:05:17 PM EST
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Gaza Surrounded - The Big Issue Now Facing Israel - Israel Palestine War News
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:05:25 PM EST
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US military advice is now 0-2.  Ukraine basically told the US to shut up about wars they arent fighting and now the Israelis are basically saying the same thing.  US mil needs a bit of a come to Jesus moment..
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:07:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:07:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KELBEAST:


Why is anybody associated with the NSA appearing on TV?
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Are you thinking National Security Agency?

Deputy NSA (National Security Advisor)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_National_Security_Advisor
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:09:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Croak:


EDIT: Might be training footage.  But one can always dream...
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Definitely training footage.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:09:51 PM EST
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Anyone know which Ohio-class boomer we sent? I would imagine it is one of the 4 SSGN conversions carrying 154 conventionally armed TLAMs. There would be no need to move an actual SSBN boomer into the CENTCOM AOR. The stuff those carry can fuck shit up from much farther away.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:10:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
People are claiming that but the guy has a normal sleeve and black gloves.
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People are wrong. lol.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:14:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
US military advice is now 0-2.  Ukraine basically told the US to shut up about wars they arent fighting and now the Israelis are basically saying the same thing.  US mil needs a bit of a come to Jesus moment..
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US military isn’t giving that advice, US politicians are. A US general actually said the exact opposite, that bombing pauses would be stupid.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:15:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By txjim42:

Are you thinking National Security Agency?

Deputy NSA (National Security Advisor)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_National_Security_Advisor
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Yeah my bad. Oops
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:17:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Anyone know which Ohio-class boomer we sent? I would imagine it is one of the 4 SSGN conversions carrying 154 conventionally armed TLAMs. There would be no need to move an actual SSBN boomer into the CENTCOM AOR. The stuff those carry can fuck shit up from much farther away.
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Perhaps the Florida. My brother's a plankowner.

https://news.usni.org/2023/04/08/navy-announces-uss-florida-guided-missile-submarine-deployment-to-middle-east
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:17:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Anyone know which Ohio-class boomer we sent? I would imagine it is one of the 4 SSGN conversions carrying 154 conventionally armed TLAMs. There would be no need to move an actual SSBN boomer into the CENTCOM AOR. The stuff those carry can fuck shit up from much farther away.
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I think you are 100% correct.  Why put ICBMs there when their delivery time half a world away is 30 minutes (or it’s free!)?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:43:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KELBEAST:


US military isn't giving that advice, US politicians are. A US general actually said the exact opposite, that bombing pauses would be stupid.
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
US military advice is now 0-2.  Ukraine basically told the US to shut up about wars they arent fighting and now the Israelis are basically saying the same thing.  US mil needs a bit of a come to Jesus moment..


US military isn't giving that advice, US politicians are. A US general actually said the exact opposite, that bombing pauses would be stupid.
Ah, you are right about the Israel 'advice.'  US mil told Ukraine to charge head long into the mine fields and Russian defenses.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:44:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Eroic:


I think you are 100% correct.  Why put ICBMs there when their delivery time half a world away is 30 minutes (or it's free!)?
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Because then the time is 5 or less iirc.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:14:51 PM EST
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Unless they want to move to Jordan.  
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 10:26:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:

Because then the time is 5 or less iirc.
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
I think you are 100% correct.  Why put ICBMs there when their delivery time half a world away is 30 minutes (or it's free!)?

Because then the time is 5 or less iirc.

How would reducing the time matter in this instance though?  Do any potential target countries in the Middle East have the capability to detect ICBM launches from 4000+ km away?  I assume satellites are the only way to do that, and it doesn't appear any of those countries have that ability.  And if they don't know it's coming, does it matter if the launch occurred 30 minutes before they find out, or only 5 minutes before they find out?
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:11:47 PM EST
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Lots of small arms fire near the hospital.

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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:18:38 PM EST
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Better feed.

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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:25:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname:

How would reducing the time matter in this instance though?  Do any potential target countries in the Middle East have the capability to detect ICBM launches from 4000+ km away?  I assume satellites are the only way to do that, and it doesn't appear any of those countries have that ability.  And if they don't know it's coming, does it matter if the launch occurred 30 minutes before they find out, or only 5 minutes before they find out?
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30 minutes gives those with launch detection capabilities time to tell them.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:25:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname:

How would reducing the time matter in this instance though?  Do any potential target countries in the Middle East have the capability to detect ICBM launches from 4000+ km away?  I assume satellites are the only way to do that, and it doesn't appear any of those countries have that ability.  And if they don't know it's coming, does it matter if the launch occurred 30 minutes before they find out, or only 5 minutes before they find out?
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname:
Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Originally Posted By Eroic:
I think you are 100% correct.  Why put ICBMs there when their delivery time half a world away is 30 minutes (or it's free!)?

Because then the time is 5 or less iirc.

How would reducing the time matter in this instance though?  Do any potential target countries in the Middle East have the capability to detect ICBM launches from 4000+ km away?  I assume satellites are the only way to do that, and it doesn't appear any of those countries have that ability.  And if they don't know it's coming, does it matter if the launch occurred 30 minutes before they find out, or only 5 minutes before they find out?



This is all correct but meaningless.  ICBMs are a deterrent and a Boomer’s job is to “hide with pride”.  So unless shit is about to go real fucking sideways with China or Russia in the ME, it’s an SSGN.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 11:33:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

Anti-colonialists will say that you can't be a terrorist to colonizers.

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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:


Because Hamas are             terrorists, you vapid     !

Anti-colonialists will say that you can't be a terrorist to colonizers.




Anti-colonialist is just simple name for edgy over educated youth that can’t square their ideology with one the oldest constants of human nature.

The irony is that the anti colonist are supporting the new colonists replacing the “natives” across North America & Europe.

It’s not really ironic since that’s their plan.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 12:25:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By LSUTigersFan:


I wouldn't want you to put yourself out. I will split it with you.
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:



I'm in for a one-way ticket...


I wouldn't want you to put yourself out. I will split it with you.
Let's go thirds. I have a feeling we are going to need a few.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 12:34:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eroic:


I think you are 100% correct.  Why put ICBMs there when their delivery time half a world away is 30 minutes (or it's free!)?
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Anyone know which Ohio-class boomer we sent? I would imagine it is one of the 4 SSGN conversions carrying 154 conventionally armed TLAMs. There would be no need to move an actual SSBN boomer into the CENTCOM AOR. The stuff those carry can fuck shit up from much farther away.


I think you are 100% correct.  Why put ICBMs there when their delivery time half a world away is 30 minutes (or it's free!)?

Link Posted: 11/6/2023 12:43:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Classic RCC tradition wouldn't really be any more beneficial to Israel than the Church's post Vatican II shift. Getting into that level of nitty gritty is getting outside the scope of this thread though.
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

He's a south american liberation theology catholic.

That means marxist.

I would be surprised if that particular variety of the ideology isn't also anticolonist too.

He is clearly and repetitively subverting classic RCC tradition. RCC tradition means less to him than his ideology does.

I'd be surprised if he call a spade a spade in this case.

Rather anarchic behavior on his part.
Classic RCC tradition wouldn't really be any more beneficial to Israel than the Church's post Vatican II shift. Getting into that level of nitty gritty is getting outside the scope of this thread though.

It would likely have been more predictable.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 12:44:29 AM EST
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Someone needs to start selling vehicle mountable CS and tear gas dispensers and painwave speakers.

Better yet some of those hi freqency area denial antennas that broadcast at the resonant freqency of human skin that NOBODY can stand being exposed to. Flip it on and watch them scatter like rats running from a fire.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 12:47:24 AM EST
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I looked at the title of the article and thought "they're starting hearings for people who they've done terrorist things to?"
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 1:01:42 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/6/2023 1:32:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/6/2023 6:18:33 AM EST
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Looks like AFP has a camera back up.


El Debate (AFP Live)
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DIRECTO | Los bombardeos en Gaza intensifican las evacuaciones en el país

Link Posted: 11/6/2023 6:27:59 AM EST
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https://www.keepshooting.com/clear-out-6oz-tear-gas-grenade.html
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 6:29:58 AM EST
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https://www.keepshooting.com/media/catalog/product/cache/f7b906d53d787e3daacd095a2c7fcc0e/c/l/clear-out-6oz-1.jpg

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Can't we run them over?
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 6:56:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname:

How would reducing the time matter in this instance though?  Do any potential target countries in the Middle East have the capability to detect ICBM launches from 4000+ km away?  I assume satellites are the only way to do that, and it doesn't appear any of those countries have that ability.  And if they don't know it's coming, does it matter if the launch occurred 30 minutes before they find out, or only 5 minutes before they find out?
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Because surprise and preparation time are a thing. There is very little you can do in five minutes while in 30 you can prepare a counter action... we will never nuke first too. It will always be retaliatory.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 7:11:54 AM EST
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Ah, you are right about the Israel 'advice.'  US mil told Ukraine to charge head long into the mine fields and Russian defenses.
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Well that didn't happen.
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 7:14:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By alaskan_9974:

Protestors? Mostly peaceful or are we calling them terrorists yet.
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Protestors have just stormed a military base in Turkey. News on this?

Protestors? Mostly peaceful or are we calling them terrorists yet.



Some types call those that invaded and slaughtered everyone in the Benghazi embassy "protestors" also.  The distinction between "protestors", "terrorists" and "insurgents" is clearly on what side they are.

We can see by how the well-funded and coordinated media propaganda and "protests" popped up worldwide, and all siding with the usual suspects, that this invasion and atrocity in Israel wasn't something locally planned (thinking Iran).  Crushing Hamas is necessary but will be like killing a mad dog while letting its owner go if it stops there.  If Israel really wants long term security, it needs to go after the owner also.


Link Posted: 11/6/2023 7:22:29 AM EST
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They wanted their Biden payout.
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They wanted their Biden payout.



The money would come anyway, minus the 10% as usual.


Link Posted: 11/6/2023 7:27:30 AM EST
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Why is anybody associated with the NSA appearing on TV?
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Biden Deputy NSA Jon Finer: Biden "Urging" Dems Not To Support Bipartisan Israel Funding Legislation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFcDct6DSvk


Why is anybody associated with the NSA appearing on TV?



Part of the coordinated global propaganda that also shows who is who and on what side they are.  


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Because surprise and preparation time are a thing. There is very little you can do in five minutes while in 30 you can prepare a counter action... we will never nuke first too. It will always be retaliatory.
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ICBMs have minimum ranges measured in thousands of miles. You cannot park one in the eastern Med and hit Iran with reasonable accuracy for example. The reason is that (with some deployed Russian exceptions), the first and second stages of submarine launched ICBM's are using solid fuel rocket motors that cannot be shut down or throttled. You can only do a lofted trajectory that results in a very high apogee, a very high warhead entry velocity and all sorts of dispersion that has not been tested much if any. And smart fuzing is useless (that will reduce the effect of down range errors in normal entry trajectories).

It appears the North Koreans currently have the best experience of firing ICBMs at ridiculously short ranges and their test campaigns have not been glaring successes either. They have fired their Hwasongs up 4000 miles (15 times higher than the orbit of the ISS) and had them land 600 miles from the launch site. I doubt any Trident D5 even has that trajectory capability. When NK did this with the liquid fueled Hwasong-14 to Hwasong-17, they were able to do partial burns shutting their engines down halfway up and went 2000 or 3000 miles up with the same impact area 600 miles away. When they did full burns of the H17 and the solid fuel H18 to the 4000 mile apogee, in some of the test firings Japanese military observers have suggested their radar data indicates the warhead broke up before impact.
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Israel-Hamas War Day 31 | Israeli Soldier Killed in Gaza Ground Offensive; Palestinian Stabs Two Border Police Officers in Jerusalem

Israeli army ground offensive in Gaza ongoing, IDF releases name of soldier killed in combat ■ Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi arrested on suspicion of incitement ■ Two border police officers wounded in Jerusalem attack ■ Tensions continue to run high across Israel-Lebanon border ■ At least 1,300 civilians and soldiers killed in Hamas massacre on October 7, with 241 hostages held in Gaza and 40 unaccounted for ■ Hamas-controlled health ministry in Gaza claims over 9,000 killed

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Israeli Soldier Killed in Gaza Ground Offensive; Palestinian Stabs Two Border Police Officers in Jerusalem

IDF says 38 wanted Palestinians arrested in West Bank

Two Israeli Border Police officers wounded in Jerusalem stabbing attack

Israeli army arrests Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi following threat to 'slaughter settlers'

Israeli soldier Staff Sgt. Shahar Cohen Mivtach, 22, killed in the Gaza Strip
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