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Yeah, there's something fucky in the hospitals. They should all be seized and searched.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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i24 news in Tel Aviv just had interceptions above the city, you could see staff running to shelters during live broadcast.
Live link to i24 for those interested, in English. ?? WATCH NOW i24NEWS COVERAGE - ISRAEL AT WAR - DAY 39 |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Hamas: "We don't use the hospital as a base"
Also Hamas: "The Israeli's are closing in fall back to the hospital" |
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Israel needs to find some top cover from everyone in the West protesting against them.
Solution - identify as Jewish Muslims. The West has a long history of not caring about Muslim on Muslim violence and the intersectionalists would spin trying to figure out how they can argue against everything they say they stand for. |
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Staunch proponent of dangerous freedom.
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Originally Posted By tsg68: Dude stole billions from the Palestinian Authority, they’re still going after his family trying to recover what he embezzled… View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tsg68: Originally Posted By realwar: Translation: The IDF destroyed the monument to the memory of Yasser Arafat in Tulkarm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki8bjjlffS0 Dude stole billions from the Palestinian Authority, they’re still going after his family trying to recover what he embezzled… IDF did not destroy anything. They moved the monument to the other side of the street. The artist driving the D9 then updated the monument to match the local architecture. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By sh768: Information provided by Israel Media: " cannot be independently verified..." Information provided by Hamas Media: "Look at what the Jews are doing!" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sh768: Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
And they're saying "alleged Hamas 'armory'" in their headline. Information provided by Israel Media: " cannot be independently verified..." Information provided by Hamas Media: "Look at what the Jews are doing!" Someone, here, posted something to the fact that MSM will be enemy combatants at some such time or another. It’s something that I’ve taken to heart and won’t forget. |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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F’in 21er’s
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Originally Posted By michigan66:
View Quote AJ is Qatar state media |
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I'm not the one REEING, motherfucker! -FCSD2162
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Originally Posted By fike: This thread has had images from every pro Hamas rally across the world, yet not one of the pro Israeli rally in DC today? Shame, Arfcom, shame….or fuck it, suspect. https://media.wusa9.com/assets/WUSA/images/c572f76d-1fb8-48da-9c96-add096b64e80/c572f76d-1fb8-48da-9c96-add096b64e80_1920x1080.jpg View Quote
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By Kashtin: Hamas was as large as everyone thought. It's just that when the shooting started a lot of them decided to become civilians. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kashtin: Originally Posted By Halberdier: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 minute ago.
The kill ratio between the IDF and Hamas is approaching 100 to 1. It's becoming pretty clear at this point that Hamas is not nearly as capable and probably not as large as everyone thought they were. Hamas was as large as everyone thought. It's just that when the shooting started a lot of them decided to become civilians. Yep. Terrorists doing terrorist things. They attack soft targets but legitimate combat isn't their forte. |
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Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By fike: This thread has had images from every pro Hamas rally across the world, yet not one of the pro Israeli rally in DC today? Shame, Arfcom, shame….or fuck it, suspect. https://media.wusa9.com/assets/WUSA/images/c572f76d-1fb8-48da-9c96-add096b64e80/c572f76d-1fb8-48da-9c96-add096b64e80_1920x1080.jpg View Quote This is the first I'm seeing.....or hearing of this. |
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White House says it has evidence Hamas using Al Shifa hospital to run military actions
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/white-house-says-it-has-evidence-hamas-using-al-shifa-hospital-run-military-2023-11-14/ |
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NYT
Nov. 14, 2023, 3:43 p.m. ET The United States has intelligence that shows that Hamas has been using hospitals in Gaza, including Al-Shifa, as command centers and ammunitions depots, a spokesman for the National Security Council said on Tuesday. John Kirby, the spokesman, said that the intelligence, gathered from American-generated sources, supported Israel's allegation that Hamas has been operating out of hospitals, which Mr. Kirby said amounted to a war crime. Mr. Kirby declined to provide details about the U.S. intelligence, but he made clear that it goes beyond the information collected by the Israeli intelligence service. "It comes from a variety of intelligence methods of our own, of our own," he said, adding that the classification of the intelligence had been downgraded so that it could be shared publicly. "I can confirm for you that we have information that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad use some hospitals in the Gaza Strip, including Al-Shifa, and tunnels underneath them, to conceal and to support their military operations and to hold hostages," Mr. Kirby told reporters on Air Force One as President Biden headed to San Francisco for a summit with Asia-Pacific leaders. "Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad J.I.D. members operate a command and control node from Al-Shifa in Gaza City," he added. "They have stored weapons there, and they're prepared to respond to an Israeli military operation against that facility." The revelation of the U.S. intelligence comes as Israel is under harsh international criticism for attacks on and around hospitals as it conducts a war against Hamas in the wake of the armed group's terrorist attacks on Israel on Oct. 7. Israel says more than 1,200 people were killed in the attacks and that 239 others remain hostages. During Israel's ensuing military campaign to eradicate Hamas, it has repeatedly said that its military seeks to avoid casualties among civilians, including patients and doctors at hospitals. But they have insisted that Hamas uses such people as human shields. Mr. Kirby said that the United States does not support attacks from the air on hospitals, despite what he said was the confirmed use of the facilities by Hamas. "We do not support striking a hospital from the air," he said. "And we do not want to see a firefight in a hospital where innocent people, helpless people, sick people are simply trying to get the medical care that they deserve, not to be caught in a crossfire. Hospitals and patients must be protected." He called that concern an "added burden" for Israel in its military campaign against Hamas. Palestinian officials and doctors at Al-Shifa have denied that the hospital has been used by Hamas. But Mr. Kirby said that the newly revealed U.S. intelligence supported Israel's arguments as its military closed in on the hospital. "We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control node and probably storage of equipment weapons up underneath," he said. "That is a war crime." Michael D. Shear is a White House correspondent for The New York Times, covering President Biden and his administration. He has reported on politics for more than 30 years. View Quote |
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I'm not the one REEING, motherfucker! -FCSD2162
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver: White House says it has evidence Hamas using Al Shifa hospital to run military actions https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/white-house-says-it-has-evidence-hamas-using-al-shifa-hospital-run-military-2023-11-14/ View Quote |
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Originally Posted By dhmjr40: This is the first I'm seeing.....or hearing of this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dhmjr40: Originally Posted By fike: This thread has had images from every pro Hamas rally across the world, yet not one of the pro Israeli rally in DC today? Shame, Arfcom, shame….or fuck it, suspect. https://media.wusa9.com/assets/WUSA/images/c572f76d-1fb8-48da-9c96-add096b64e80/c572f76d-1fb8-48da-9c96-add096b64e80_1920x1080.jpg This is the first I'm seeing.....or hearing of this. I’ll throw a little shit around (not directly at anyone). On social issues, arfcom prefers negative news. Some do it to sporadically to reinforce their views “that the country is going to hell” others do it so consistently, specifically, and professionally, I hope someone is paying them. So….on this day as was posted above, there were huge pro-Israel march in the nation’s capital and the US has publicly outed/confirmed Hamas’ activities at Shifa hospital. |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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I want to know why the hospital staff would GAF if the Israelis entered the hospital.
You know, if it was only a hospital...... |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
View Quote Not sure that tweet says anything of the sort but whatever. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
View Quote For a bit more context, Al Jazeera is quoting a doctor who stated the “bomb” has left a half meter hole in the roof of the building. A half meter hole…. |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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Originally Posted By BM1455: Probably a RPG from Hamas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By fike: For a bit more context, Al Jazeera is quoting a doctor who stated the “bomb” has left a half meter hole in the roof of the building. A half meter hole…. Probably a RPG from Hamas. Hamas Productions is using this to film children being evacuated from their hospital rooms. Yep, their RPG. https://twitter.com/i/status/1724551649513886084 |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-5SdFaXQAAQT_O?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-5SdQiWsAAFGs5?format=jpg&name=large IDF says Eilat sirens tripped by air defense missile fired at ‘aerial target’ The Israel Defense Forces says rocket sirens sounded in Israel’s southernmost city of Eilat a short while ago due to an air defense missile being fired at an “aerial target.” The IDF says there was no actual infiltration into Israeli airspace. It is unclear what the target was, or whether it was intercepted. View Quote If you watched that video, it is across the street from the hospital and connects to the tunnel complex under the hospital. It was in the yard of a Hamas terrorists house. |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
View Quote except for drone-dropped grenade? |
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Originally Posted By BM1455: Probably a RPG from Hamas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By fike: For a bit more context, Al Jazeera is quoting a doctor who stated the “bomb” has left a half meter hole in the roof of the building. A half meter hole…. Probably a RPG from Hamas. Or another of their water pipe/power pole rockets falling from the sky. |
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Waiting for our response to be an airfield of Iranian fighter jets.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Israel has 'no proof of life' for hostages seized by Hamas in October 7 attacks, foreign minister declares, claiming the Red Cross has not been able to meet any of terror group's captives
Foreign Minister Eli Cohen met Red Cross head Mirjana Spoljaric in Geneva https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12749087/Israel-no-proof-life-hostages-seized-Hamas-October-7-attacks-foreign-minister-declares-claiming-Red-Cross-not-able-meet-terror-groups-captives.html |
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I quoted the wrong quote lol.
But the drone threat was reduced after the first days when the Israelis brought drone jamming systems to the front. https://breakingdefense.com/2023/06/regulus-cyber-unveils-ring-arm-v-an-ew-system-protect-vehicles-and-troops-from-drones/ JERUSALEM — Israeli firm Regulus Cyber, which makes counter-unmanned aerial systems solutions, recently unveiled its ARM-V, a system that is designed to protect armored vehicles and troops from drones using electronic warfare. The company said in a statement the technology is based on its Ring C-UAS solution that is the “first combat-proven system to manipulate satellite signals to intercept drones, UAS and swarms.” Regulus said ARM-V has been operational for two years, and in the last several months the system has been integrated with armored vehicles in parallel with a project with a “leading western army.” Like many Israeli defense companies, Regulus does not provide the name of the specific country, nor did it detail how the ARM-V has been used operationally in the past 24 months. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes JERUSALEM — Israeli firm Regulus Cyber, which makes counter-unmanned aerial systems solutions, recently unveiled its ARM-V, a system that is designed to protect armored vehicles and troops from drones using electronic warfare. The company said in a statement the technology is based on its Ring C-UAS solution that is the “first combat-proven system to manipulate satellite signals to intercept drones, UAS and swarms.” Regulus said ARM-V has been operational for two years, and in the last several months the system has been integrated with armored vehicles in parallel with a project with a “leading western army.” Like many Israeli defense companies, Regulus does not provide the name of the specific country, nor did it detail how the ARM-V has been used operationally in the past 24 months. Yonatan Zur, CEO and co-founder of Regulus, told Breaking Defense the ARM-V is designed to manipulate Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) used by small drones for navigation. GNSS refers to satellite-based navigation services, of which American GPS is the most prominent. (China, Russia, the European Union and others have their own GNSS systems with different names.) Zur explained that basically, “We take over the receiver and, because the receiver is important part of controller, we can fly [the drone] and give it fake locations to go to.” That means the system is designed to push back a threatening drone, put it on hold or divert it. “Today there is no solution that really fits an armored vehicle,” he said. “Most solutions need a lot of [space] to put it and power consumption and many antennas, and usually you need an operator to run the system.” To overcome those hurdles, and in describing the evolution of the system, Zur said, “we took [it] and turned it into a system tailored toward needs of battle tanks and armored vehicles.” The system is contained in a kind of box, just over one foot by one foot in size, with a small antenna that Zur says provides an invisible bubble of EW protection around the vehicle. It also has “a strong beam upwards, so imagine the antenna looking upwards, you get a cone above the vehicle, so it eliminates anything from stopping above up to 15-20,000 feet while also providing an omni-bubble protection.” The system has two power modes, one for a small area of protection around the vehicle, around 150 meters and 1.5 kilometers extending upwards, and another where Zur claimed “you get full power that can reach seven kilometers, in a situation where you don’t know what is going and there is a swarm of suicide drones coming at battalion or platoon and everyone is protected up to 15-20,000 feet.” ARM-V can be networked with its own command and control interface or automatic mode, “which integrates with Regulus Ring R1 internal RF drone detection software, or any other detection capability,” the company said. It can be adjusted to a manual, automatic or partly automatic setup, which kicks in when a threat is detected. The normal mode provides a small protection bubble around the vehicle or convoy, that doesn’t interfere with a large area. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2023-10-16/ty-article/.premium/israel-ramps-up-gps-jamming-to-thwart-hezbollah-hamas-drone-attacks/0000018b-3784-d051-a1cb-3fdfdfe10000 |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0MX0mRj4U View Quote Two of Hearts at 0:35 wonder if the IDF is leaving calling cards! |
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Originally Posted By fike: I’ll throw a little shit around (not directly at anyone). On social issues, arfcom prefers negative news. Some do it to sporadically to reinforce their views “that the country is going to hell” others do it so consistently, specifically, and professionally, I hope someone is paying them. So….on this day as was posted above, there were huge pro-Israel march in the nation’s capital and the US has publicly outed/confirmed Hamas’ activities at Shifa hospital. View Quote Both are positive stories. I heard of the pro-Israel march on Newsmax today. I didn't hear of the US admitting the hospital BS Hamas was pulling until I came here. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Yep, not even pretending to be news, nothing but opinion. Pure, disgusting opinion. Good Morning, Britain. (never heard of it before, but if that segment is any indication it's worse than ABC's Good Morning America) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning_Britain_ |
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Has this been shown yet?
Watch Liberal Get Enraged as Rabbi Calmly Reads Simple Facts |
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Originally Posted By RebelBoxer: Someone, here, posted something to the fact that MSM will be enemy combatants at some such time or another. It’s something that I’ve taken to heart and won’t forget. View Quote That was me, and it is true. When they get the revolution that they've been begging for for decades, please consider them enemy combatants. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
View Quote I scrolled through the comments and JFC.... There are a whole lot of people in this world who are dumb motherfuckers.... |
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Originally Posted By Cobradriver: I scrolled through the comments and JFC.... There are a whole lot of people in this world who are dumb motherfuckers.... View Quote Don't make the mistake of thinking they are dumb or simply misinformed when in fact the overarching reality is they are willfully blinded by their hatred and willing participants in all levels of mass formation psychosis. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Article in Times of Israel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/Screenshot_2023-11-14-08-35-06_kindlepho-3027141.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66:
Article in Times of Israel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/Screenshot_2023-11-14-08-35-06_kindlepho-3027141.JPG off duty soldier Staff Sgt. Aner Elyakim Shapiro managed to toss back seven of the grenades, until the eight fatally wounded him. |
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Originally Posted By RebelBoxer: Someone, here, posted something to the fact that MSM will be enemy combatants at some such time or another. It’s something that I’ve taken to heart and won’t forget. View Quote Indeed. They enable tyranny and are the greatest threat to our country at this time. Everyone should be taking notes right now. |
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Originally Posted By Raccoonwhisperer: Two of Hearts at 0:35 wonder if the IDF is leaving calling cards! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Raccoonwhisperer: Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0MX0mRj4U Two of Hearts at 0:35 wonder if the IDF is leaving calling cards! Col. Kilgore lives!!! |
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Originally Posted By Red_Blue: All Geneva Conventions of 1949 (that is I through IV) apply to conflicts between non-state actors and states. That principle is called the “Article 3 common to the Geneva Conventions” and for the protection of civilians (Convention IV) it reads as follows: Also, it is quite easily arguable that since Palestine is a state party to the convention, that the war is between two state parties. If you would accept that, then any attacks against hospitals would be subject to the much more strict requirements of Article 19 that neither side has shown that they have complied with: Holding hostages or even prisoners of war not under care inside a hospital might satisfy the “acts harmful to the enemy” standard, but the reprisal for that could not be aerial bombardment as that could easily endanger the hostages/prisoners. A raid with ground troops might be defensible as a compliant use of military force though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Originally Posted By bigstick61: I don't see how the Geneva Conventions even apply to this conflict. Gaza is not a state. For all practical intents and purposes it is sovereign Israeli territory and I would imagine the only applicable laws governing this conflict are Israeli ones. All Geneva Conventions of 1949 (that is I through IV) apply to conflicts between non-state actors and states. That principle is called the “Article 3 common to the Geneva Conventions” and for the protection of civilians (Convention IV) it reads as follows: In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions: (1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed ' hors de combat ' by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria. To this end, the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons: (a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture; (b) taking of hostages; (c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment; (d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples. (2) The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for. An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict. Also, it is quite easily arguable that since Palestine is a state party to the convention, that the war is between two state parties. If you would accept that, then any attacks against hospitals would be subject to the much more strict requirements of Article 19 that neither side has shown that they have complied with: The protection to which civilian hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy. Protection may, however, cease only after due warning has been given, naming, in all appropriate cases, a reasonable time limit, and after such warning has remained unheeded. The fact that sick or wounded members of the armed forces are nursed in these hospitals, or the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants and not yet handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy. Holding hostages or even prisoners of war not under care inside a hospital might satisfy the “acts harmful to the enemy” standard, but the reprisal for that could not be aerial bombardment as that could easily endanger the hostages/prisoners. A raid with ground troops might be defensible as a compliant use of military force though. Palestine isn't a state no matter how much it may pretend to be one, so the less restrictive parts would apply only given that language, IMO. I wasn't sure if Geneva was as you posted or if it was more like Hague where it requires both opposing belligerent parties to be signatories for its provisions to apply to them. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
View Quote Knock, knock. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
View Quote Probably Hamas setting IED’s and someone fucked up. |
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