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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: There's still a few hundred "hospitals" left standing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Originally Posted By Hunter8282: Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_JeFwWWgAAitpi?format=jpg&name=small How are they still launching rockets? There's still a few hundred "hospitals" left standing. |
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"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984
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I think Gaza would be the ideal location for the future 150 sq mile King David national Forrest and sea shore. Make it green again.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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Originally Posted By michigan66: I thought they took their Palestinian flags down in Mea Shearim. Guess not.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_1508_jpeg-3030844.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By neshomamench: Originally Posted By kychas: "On top of it, people comment how divided the US is. We do not seem so divided as the Jews, who have factions that appear to support Hamas and what it did in Israel. That's insane. " Any red state could be completely destroyed and 10% of the population (left wackos) would cheer We have are own problems also The Jews that support what happened are very few in number. They just get lots of airtime. As has been said in this thread, they are like the Jewish version of the Westboro Baptist Church. The Jews calling for a ceasefire, that is a larger group but still a minority. It is made up almost entirely of secular Jews outside of a Israel. These Jews also get lots of airtime. I thought they took their Palestinian flags down in Mea Shearim. Guess not.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_1508_jpeg-3030844.JPG They also don't serve in the IDF |
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"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984
"Mitch the democrat bitch" "democrat voter fraud works and it makes Republicans look stupid" |
Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I would love to know the number of bombs dropped on Gaza already. They have leveled a damn big playing field and show no real signs of slowing down from the noise coming out of my speakers. View Quote The Israeli Air Force said the dropped 6000 bombs in the first week. Didn't specify what bombs they dropped.
After that tweet, I couldn't find anything credible. Some group I've never heard of, the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, said Israel has dropped 25K tons of bombs on Gaza. No idea how they came up with that figure as they don't reference the source. Link to their assertion. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By Billybob2002: For example, John Hagee, founder of Christian Zionist organization Christians United for Israel, said Hitler was a half breed Jew and other antisemitic shit in the past. Well, your Ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, and other Israeli diplomats in October attended an event called Night to Honor Israel hosted by him. How about that! View Quote |
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def: Destroy Hamas so that Hamas can never return. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By Jack19: https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2023/11/624/351/a359a2d80d152ffa54f50097e0e96fb1.jpg?tl=1&ve=1 Emily Hand, who turns 9 years old on Friday, Nov. 17, is one of 32 children who were taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel. Her father, Thomas, was told early on that she had been killed. There will be no "Cease Fire." Destroy Hamas so that Hamas can never return. |
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"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984
"Mitch the democrat bitch" "democrat voter fraud works and it makes Republicans look stupid" |
Originally Posted By BM1455: 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By michigan66: Haaretz: The Munitions U.S. Supplied Israel for Gaza War Highlights: Article: Click To View Spoiler Tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells, thousands of bunker-buster munitions and 200 kamikaze drones these are just some weapons and ammunition Israel has asked the U.S. for since the beginning of the war in Gaza. An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list also includes 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles for Apache gunships and 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for its cannon. Israel's Apache helicopters have been operating constantly since the early hours of October 7, closely assisting ground forces in the Gaza Strip and on the Lebanon border. According to the document, the missiles, and ammunition have already been provided to the Israeli army. Israel also asked for 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets, made by Nammo Talley Defense and capable of penetrating up to 20 cm of concrete. 1,800 of these have already been shipped, as of late October. Israel has also asked for 400 120mm mortar rounds. Also on Israel's list, per Bloomberg, are 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones made by the American AeroVironment company. These drones have a range of 40 km, more than 40 minutes of flight time and a combination of cameras and infrared sensors. The Switchblade, which was also shipped to the Ukrainian army is equipped with a warhead based on the American Javelin missile, and can hit armored vehicles, bunkers and exposed troops. According to Breaking Defense, the U.S. Army has ordered more than 100 such drones for its own use in October, leading to the assumption that there are no drones currently available in warehouses. The document confirms that Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army which eventually chose a different system as well as 312 Tamir interceptors. The batteries were shipped to Israel by sea. The most controversial munitions are the 57,000 155mm shells, at least a portion of which were sent from the U.S. Army's stockpiles in Israel to Europe, for the Ukrainian war effort. Human rights groups as well as Palestinian officials have criticized the use of cannons in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. The shortage in shells is a problem that has repeated itself in various conflicts in Israel and around the world. Last July, however, Israel's Defense Ministry and Elbit signed a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars to supply tens of thousands of shells. The Israeli list of requests also includes 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, some of which have already been supplied. Israel also asked for 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices, manufactured by Elbit America, and L3Harris. 3,500 of these have been provided. At least one item on the list 20,000 M4A1 rifles (a variant of the AR-15) has already caused a stir. The U.S. has even threatened to halt the supply when it learned that National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir distributed the weapons to security squads during events that could be construed as political. Democrats grow wary Meanwhile, Congressional Democrats are increasingly wary of the Biden administration's lack of transparency regarding the public disclosure on arms sales to Israel which is in contrast to its self-reported information about similar sales to Ukraine. The administration is also pushing for the authority to bypass notification requirements to Congress that apply to every other country receiving foreign military financing. "What I can tell you is we are providing assistance to Israel through very different mechanisms than how we provide assistance to Ukraine," said Pentagon deputy spokesperson Sabrina Singh. While Ukraine aid is primarily provided via drawdown authorities, which permits the "speedy delivery of defense articles and services from Department of Defense stocks to foreign countries and international organizations to respond to unforeseen emergencies." Israel is mainly through official foreign military sales, foreign military financing, and then direct contracting that Israel does with private commercial companies. Efforts to provide Israel with $14 billion in emergency assistance have hit a standstill due to political gridlock in Washington. The House passed a stopgap funding measure on Tuesday to keep the government open, which will now go to the Senate. The effort, however, does not include supplemental assistance to Israel. Negotiations to link Israel and Ukraine funding, meanwhile, have hit a brick wall over border security. 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. Compare that to the 57,000 155mm shells request, it should be 300,000 rounds |
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"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984
"Mitch the democrat bitch" "democrat voter fraud works and it makes Republicans look stupid" |
Originally Posted By BM1455: 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By michigan66: Haaretz: The Munitions U.S. Supplied Israel for Gaza War Highlights: Article: Click To View Spoiler Tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells, thousands of bunker-buster munitions and 200 kamikaze drones – these are just some weapons and ammunition Israel has asked the U.S. for since the beginning of the war in Gaza. An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list also includes 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles for Apache gunships and 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for its cannon. Israel's Apache helicopters have been operating constantly since the early hours of October 7, closely assisting ground forces in the Gaza Strip and on the Lebanon border. According to the document, the missiles, and ammunition have already been provided to the Israeli army. Israel also asked for 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets, made by Nammo Talley Defense and capable of penetrating up to 20 cm of concrete. 1,800 of these have already been shipped, as of late October. Israel has also asked for 400 120mm mortar rounds. Also on Israel's list, per Bloomberg, are 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones made by the American AeroVironment company. These drones have a range of 40 km, more than 40 minutes of flight time and a combination of cameras and infrared sensors. The Switchblade, which was also shipped to the Ukrainian army – is equipped with a warhead based on the American Javelin missile, and can hit armored vehicles, bunkers and exposed troops. According to Breaking Defense, the U.S. Army has ordered more than 100 such drones for its own use in October, leading to the assumption that there are no drones currently available in warehouses. The document confirms that Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army – which eventually chose a different system – as well as 312 Tamir interceptors. The batteries were shipped to Israel by sea. The most controversial munitions are the 57,000 155mm shells, at least a portion of which were sent from the U.S. Army's stockpiles in Israel to Europe, for the Ukrainian war effort. Human rights groups as well as Palestinian officials have criticized the use of cannons in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. The shortage in shells is a problem that has repeated itself in various conflicts in Israel and around the world. Last July, however, Israel's Defense Ministry and Elbit signed a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars to supply tens of thousands of shells. The Israeli list of requests also includes 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, some of which have already been supplied. Israel also asked for 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices, manufactured by Elbit America, and L3Harris. 3,500 of these have been provided. At least one item on the list – 20,000 M4A1 rifles (a variant of the AR-15) – has already caused a stir. The U.S. has even threatened to halt the supply when it learned that National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir distributed the weapons to security squads during events that could be construed as political. Democrats grow wary Meanwhile, Congressional Democrats are increasingly wary of the Biden administration’s lack of transparency regarding the public disclosure on arms sales to Israel – which is in contrast to its self-reported information about similar sales to Ukraine. The administration is also pushing for the authority to bypass notification requirements to Congress that apply to every other country receiving foreign military financing. "What I can tell you is we are providing assistance to Israel through very different mechanisms than how we provide assistance to Ukraine," said Pentagon deputy spokesperson Sabrina Singh. While Ukraine aid is primarily provided via drawdown authorities, which permits the "speedy delivery of defense articles and services from Department of Defense stocks to foreign countries and international organizations to respond to unforeseen emergencies." Israel is mainly through official foreign military sales, foreign military financing, and then direct contracting that Israel does with private commercial companies. Efforts to provide Israel with $14 billion in emergency assistance have hit a standstill due to political gridlock in Washington. The House passed a stopgap funding measure on Tuesday to keep the government open, which will now go to the Senate. The effort, however, does not include supplemental assistance to Israel. Negotiations to link Israel and Ukraine funding, meanwhile, have hit a brick wall over border security. 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. Only a total of 1 hr of sustained fire. Definitely not enough ammo. |
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"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984
"Mitch the democrat bitch" "democrat voter fraud works and it makes Republicans look stupid" |
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Makes sense. I think Israel is going after them shortly--they've said they learned from their error of considering intentions instead of capabilities when they developed Oplans for dealing with Hamas. Using that logic, there is no way they can leave Hezbollah with 100K rockets. Currently Israel and Hezbollah have developed certain rules on how they fight each other based on the fact that neither of them wants a repeat of the 34-day Lebanon war that turned out badly for both of them. I can't see how Israel can continue following the "rules" knowing that when they least expect it Hezbollah might do their own 7 October with deadlier results. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By fike: The majority of that looks like stuff for a much bigger throw down with Hezbollah. Makes sense. I think Israel is going after them shortly--they've said they learned from their error of considering intentions instead of capabilities when they developed Oplans for dealing with Hamas. Using that logic, there is no way they can leave Hezbollah with 100K rockets. Currently Israel and Hezbollah have developed certain rules on how they fight each other based on the fact that neither of them wants a repeat of the 34-day Lebanon war that turned out badly for both of them. I can't see how Israel can continue following the "rules" knowing that when they least expect it Hezbollah might do their own 7 October with deadlier results. Israel wants to go after them (more on that in a bit), but we have to remember that the supplies were quickly shuffled over as everyone was worried about a wider attack on Israel from multiple participants. It appears that nobody wants to lose what they have with the US still hanging around, but the equation most definitely changes for the US if Israel is the aggressor. I’m about 87% certain that wasn’t the deal. I’m 100% behind Israel, but they have been trying to push the limit of our participation from the beginning (can’t blame them for trying). The first attempt to change the narrative was the very early use of “Hamas is ISIS”. Many folks didn’t really pay much attention to the elimination of ISIS, but we (and others) went absolutely biblical killing those fuckers. 80k killed with just air strikes. That got rebuffed rather quickly and they started to float the narrative that “senior Hamas officials are hiding in northern Lebanon”. That one didn’t even make it to IDF statements. Guessing we shut that one down quickly with our own intelligence. Now they are pushing the issue with just straight language of “the security situation will change”. Maybe they pull the pin and make it happen, but I don’t think we are in that equation. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Only a total of 1 hr of sustained fire. Definitely not enough ammo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By michigan66: Haaretz: The Munitions U.S. Supplied Israel for Gaza War Highlights: Article: Click To View Spoiler Tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells, thousands of bunker-buster munitions and 200 kamikaze drones – these are just some weapons and ammunition Israel has asked the U.S. for since the beginning of the war in Gaza. An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list also includes 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles for Apache gunships and 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for its cannon. Israel's Apache helicopters have been operating constantly since the early hours of October 7, closely assisting ground forces in the Gaza Strip and on the Lebanon border. According to the document, the missiles, and ammunition have already been provided to the Israeli army. Israel also asked for 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets, made by Nammo Talley Defense and capable of penetrating up to 20 cm of concrete. 1,800 of these have already been shipped, as of late October. Israel has also asked for 400 120mm mortar rounds. Also on Israel's list, per Bloomberg, are 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones made by the American AeroVironment company. These drones have a range of 40 km, more than 40 minutes of flight time and a combination of cameras and infrared sensors. The Switchblade, which was also shipped to the Ukrainian army – is equipped with a warhead based on the American Javelin missile, and can hit armored vehicles, bunkers and exposed troops. According to Breaking Defense, the U.S. Army has ordered more than 100 such drones for its own use in October, leading to the assumption that there are no drones currently available in warehouses. The document confirms that Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army – which eventually chose a different system – as well as 312 Tamir interceptors. The batteries were shipped to Israel by sea. The most controversial munitions are the 57,000 155mm shells, at least a portion of which were sent from the U.S. Army's stockpiles in Israel to Europe, for the Ukrainian war effort. Human rights groups as well as Palestinian officials have criticized the use of cannons in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. The shortage in shells is a problem that has repeated itself in various conflicts in Israel and around the world. Last July, however, Israel's Defense Ministry and Elbit signed a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars to supply tens of thousands of shells. The Israeli list of requests also includes 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, some of which have already been supplied. Israel also asked for 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices, manufactured by Elbit America, and L3Harris. 3,500 of these have been provided. At least one item on the list – 20,000 M4A1 rifles (a variant of the AR-15) – has already caused a stir. The U.S. has even threatened to halt the supply when it learned that National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir distributed the weapons to security squads during events that could be construed as political. Democrats grow wary Meanwhile, Congressional Democrats are increasingly wary of the Biden administration’s lack of transparency regarding the public disclosure on arms sales to Israel – which is in contrast to its self-reported information about similar sales to Ukraine. The administration is also pushing for the authority to bypass notification requirements to Congress that apply to every other country receiving foreign military financing. "What I can tell you is we are providing assistance to Israel through very different mechanisms than how we provide assistance to Ukraine," said Pentagon deputy spokesperson Sabrina Singh. While Ukraine aid is primarily provided via drawdown authorities, which permits the "speedy delivery of defense articles and services from Department of Defense stocks to foreign countries and international organizations to respond to unforeseen emergencies." Israel is mainly through official foreign military sales, foreign military financing, and then direct contracting that Israel does with private commercial companies. Efforts to provide Israel with $14 billion in emergency assistance have hit a standstill due to political gridlock in Washington. The House passed a stopgap funding measure on Tuesday to keep the government open, which will now go to the Senate. The effort, however, does not include supplemental assistance to Israel. Negotiations to link Israel and Ukraine funding, meanwhile, have hit a brick wall over border security. 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. Only a total of 1 hr of sustained fire. Definitely not enough ammo. Maybe they are trying to not be the Middle East version of Zelenskyy? "We can make do with this, no need to overdo it." |
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Originally Posted By wganz: Sounds more of a diss on funny mustached Austrian man than an antisemitic attack on Jews. Based on hearing many of Hagee’s sermons, I will judge your comment about him being antisemitic as being so off mark to the point of being totally misinformed. Hagee has stated on multiple occasions that one cannot be both antisemitic and Christian. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wganz: Originally Posted By Billybob2002: For example, John Hagee, founder of Christian Zionist organization Christians United for Israel, said Hitler was a half breed Jew and other antisemitic shit in the past. Well, your Ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, and other Israeli diplomats in October attended an event called Night to Honor Israel hosted by him. How about that! Hagee isnt the first to speculate that Hitler had Jewish ancestors..............that theory has been going around ever since Hitler came to power |
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"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
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Originally Posted By Jack19: https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2023/11/624/351/a359a2d80d152ffa54f50097e0e96fb1.jpg?tl=1&ve=1 Emily Hand, who turns 9 years old on Friday, Nov. 17, is one of 32 children who were taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel. Her father, Thomas, was told early on that she had been killed. There will be no "Cease Fire." View Quote This should never stop |
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Originally Posted By Rossi: So, if this is all planned, it just confirms that whoever is behind it, wants to bring world chaos. And chaos is a well-known tool used by anyone who wants to make "fundamental transformations." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By x248716x: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/575474/Screenshot_20231116_224212_Gallery_jpg-3030306.JPG The "ceasefire" those people have been referring to is to allow Palestinians to leave Gaza? If so, they have to tell their Hamas friends to stop shooting the ones trying to move to Gaza's southern area. the ceasefire the libtards want is so that Hamas terrorists stop getting killed. nothing to do with departures IMHO. Originally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/575474/Screenshot_20231116_224212_Gallery_jpg-3030306.JPG The "ceasefire" those people have been referring to is to allow Palestinians to leave Gaza? If so, they have to tell their Hamas friends to stop shooting the ones trying to move to Gaza's southern area. It was a garbage thing the leftists around the world came up with to give Hamas time to remove evidence and reposition. People in N Gaza were given ample notice and time to evacuate south. What I think may be happening and will have to be dealt with is Hamas moving south along with people fleeing and the south of Gaza will be a shit show. Hamas are cowards and don't want a direct fight with the IDF or at least not without a lot of 'civilians' dying in the process. True. That's the main point and shows how many people are so easily manipulated, which confirms my comment several pages back that Israel's main problem isn't in Gaza, which it can easily deal with, as we have seen. Israel's problem is outside of it, and spread worldwide, determined to wipe out Israel in order to fulfill its agenda. On top of it, people comment how divided the US is. We do not seem so divided as the Jews, who have factions that appear to support Hamas and what it did in Israel. That's insane. It's also crazy watching so many falling for that propaganda. Putting the Palestinian issue aside for a moment. I do not recall Israel ever doing anything even close to the barbarism and gratuitous indiscriminate violence displayed by Hamas on Oct 7. What's the purpose of that? Try to make Israel answer in kind? Well, it did not. Yet, so many are following that agenda. So, the real problem is outside of Gaza and shows that it can turn against anyone and anything, and reason is non existent. None of the current conflicts (and not just military) are following anything close to the traditional battle lines we understand historically. What was once clear in terms of sides is muddled by the media as they lie and manipulate the information everyone receives. Just like this subject, because one is Jewish does not guarantee support for Israel, in this conflict or any other. The UKR conflict is the same. The ongoing politically based battles here are another example. In each instance there are people supporting a side to the conflict that defies logic and fact. Homosexuals for Palestine is perhaps the best example of this. This is what happens when people consume an altered version of events and adopt it as their truth. They know that it's different, but have convinced themselves that is because the victor writes history. There is some level of empathy for the "victim" that gets leveraged and underscored constantly such that people get drawn to support them. The lines are blurry and the facts are too. It is all by design to fracture everything and everyone. So, if this is all planned, it just confirms that whoever is behind it, wants to bring world chaos. And chaos is a well-known tool used by anyone who wants to make "fundamental transformations." If you're proposing a new solution using some wildly different approaches, the problem that it is solving should be really bad. I personally believe we are watching that exact thing happen. This conflict is just the most recent. |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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Originally Posted By dempsy1: This should never stop View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dempsy1: Originally Posted By Jack19: https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2023/11/624/351/a359a2d80d152ffa54f50097e0e96fb1.jpg?tl=1&ve=1 Emily Hand, who turns 9 years old on Friday, Nov. 17, is one of 32 children who were taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel. Her father, Thomas, was told early on that she had been killed. There will be no "Cease Fire." This should never stop The cease fire couldve started Oct 6. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Well Said. While the media/news/influencers do not always directly tell us exactly what to think, they most assuredly tell us what to think about and control the conversation via platforms targeted at various age/belief groups and control of those platforms. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: We have all seen instances in the last few years that were smaller versions of what Israel is experiencing in the media and society. While it remains disappointing it should not be surprising to us. This is just another facet of the battle and it's waged effectively our enemies. None of the current conflicts (and not just military) are following anything close to the traditional battle lines we understand historically. What was once clear in terms of sides is muddled by the media as they lie and manipulate the information everyone receives. Just like this subject, because one is Jewish does not guarantee support for Israel, in this conflict or any other. The UKR conflict is the same. The ongoing politically based battles here are another example. In each instance there are people supporting a side to the conflict that defies logic and fact. Homosexuals for Palestine is perhaps the best example of this. This is what happens when people consume an altered version of events and adopt it as their truth. They know that it's different, but have convinced themselves that is because the victor writes history. There is some level of empathy for the "victim" that gets leveraged and underscored constantly such that people get drawn to support them. The lines are blurry and the facts are too. It is all by design to fracture everything and everyone. Well Said. While the media/news/influencers do not always directly tell us exactly what to think, they most assuredly tell us what to think about and control the conversation via platforms targeted at various age/belief groups and control of those platforms. The willingness to check the facts around what they are being told appears to be nearly non-existent. |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By Chaingun: Again, you bring this hippy shit up!!! All inclusive resorts and a beach front walk. I'm talking cash income View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By shotar: I think Gaza would be the ideal location for the future 150 sq mile King David national Forrest and sea shore. Make it green again. All inclusive resorts and a beach front walk. I'm talking cash income Gaza should be a dog park and concert venue. maybe add the Golda Meir center for women's studies... |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Unfortunately for everyone, the so-called "Masters of the Universe" took the wrong lessons from the fall of the Berlin Wall. There were essentially two schools of thought on how things would pan out; for simplicities sake (therefore risking gross simplification), the "Fukuyama" school and the "Huntington" school. Francis Fukuyama wrote the famous essay "The End of History and the Last Man" in which he posited that all of the major historical issues had all been settled by the fall of Communism, that every major question had more-or-less been settled, that the world would be governed by some form of liberal democracy and all of the economics would be capitalistic. With no "Big Questions" left to settle, Fukuyama feared that people would become Nietzsche's "Last Man"; not really concerned with any big issues and consumed by mediocrity. Well, to the folks who were large and in charge, a world of sheep-like consumers with them in the role of the "Übermensch" leadership, divorced from Christian concepts of morality, and power being the end in itself, to rule them seemed optimal. Therefore, allowing all of these radical movements "space to destroy" over relatively trivial issues was actually seen by them as a way to distract the disaffected from major issues by slowly coopting them into the Last Man "Borg" while in the interim using them as a wedge to keep the majority of the Borg distracted from the major issues as well. Ultimately, the goal was to create a culture based on the "Last Man" worldwide. As Thomas Friedman put it, "No two countries with McDonalds ever went to war against each other" (which is no longer true, but it briefs well as a corporate bullet point). Conversely, my man Samuel Huntington predicted a "Clash of Civilizations", where all of the previous ethnic, racial, geographic, and religious divisions would come to the fore and be drivers of major instability; essentially, Huntington was saying that the Cold War was actually a stabilizing influence on geopolitics and that, far from being dead, History would soon start speedballing Coke and Meth and lead to worldwide instability, with new alliances, coalitions, and empires forming to challenge the existing western order creating escalating worldwide instability. This is not something the International Bright Young Things nor the Emerging Global Establishment wanted to hear. By trying to coopt the Third World, the western leaders have essentially destabilized the world, and their place in it. To counteract this, they are trying desperately to hammer the "round peg" of a Fukuyama worldview into the square hole of a Huntington reality, which is accelerating the destabilization. View Quote @Saltwater-Hillbilly Sir: I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Only a total of 1 hr of sustained fire. Definitely not enough ammo. View Quote Assuming they're using expanded internal fuel tanks for extended loiter time instead of the ammo pack it's 120 sorties if they go full winchester and shoot it all. That aside, this isn't really a fight conducive to using the 30mm. Too many issues in shooting it in an urban environment with tight streets as it's design has dispersion built into the targeting programming and recoil resolvers. The hellfires are significantly more important out of the two Apache related requests. |
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Originally Posted By DASJUDEN: Assuming they're using expanded internal fuel tanks for extended loiter time instead of the ammo pack it's 120 sorties if they go full winchester and shoot it all. That aside, this isn't really a fight conducive to using the 30mm. Too many issues in shooting it in an urban environment with tight streets as it's design has dispersion built into the targeting programming and recoil resolvers. The hellfires are significantly more important out of the two Apache related requests. View Quote But would it be ideal for going after vehicles and launch sites in, say, southern Lebanon? |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Gun-waving Israeli soldiers strip pop star to sequinned briefs in ‘insane’ concert Hamas 'Overpowers' Israeli Troops In Face-To-Face Fight; Fierce Gunbattle In Residential Area On Cam |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Originally Posted By michigan66: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iEfIyhL3nw View Quote lol. Straight out of Zohan. |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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Originally Posted By Element94: They need to let the media see that before blowing it up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Element94: Originally Posted By BM1455:
They need to let the media see that before blowing it up. Dang thats quite the blast |
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President's 100, US Army Distinguished Rifleman
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No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.
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Watch MSNBC Host’s Face As Jerusalem Mayor Turns Her Question Against Her |
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The most disturbing aspect of this war is the massive number of US Residents that oppose the complete antihalation of Hamas.
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You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you’re capable of great violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless.
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Originally Posted By Cardplayer: The most disturbing aspect of this war is the massive number of US Residents that oppose the complete antihalation of Hamas. View Quote The whole "if everyone jumps off a bridge" warning parents gave didn't sink in very well. Instead brainwashing had a stronger foothold. |
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Cam on Israeli soldiers sunning on a Gaza beach.
Cam pans and focuses on sign "Coming Soon, Bibi's Palace Beachfront Resort, Hotel and Casino." "At Bibi's Palace you are the King! Bibi's, bringing the Palace to Palestine." Official airlines on bottom corners: El Al and yikes Fly Emirates. Cam pans left a bit and zooms and focuses on another sign "Coming Soon, Luxor Beachfront Resort and Casino" "At this Pyramid you're the Pharoah!" Airlines on the bottom corners: Fly Emirates and Egypt Air. Cam back to the IDF guys, this time two men flanking a cute IDF girl. Right IDF soldier "Featuring the most talented entertainment from Russia, Ukraine, Czech Republic and Romania" Left IDF soldier "And from Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia and Mexico!" Center IDF female "Don't forget from Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Japan and China." Cam backs a bit and the three IDF soldiers say in unison "At Bibi's Palace it's good to be king" The IDF girl smiles a cute, shy smile and winks. Cam fades to new screen that says "Coming Spring 2025!" |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://thehill.com/policy/international/4313098-naacp-cease-fire-middle-east-israel-hamas/amp/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5220_jpeg-3030539.JPG View Quote Typical. If they do it it's "peaceful demonstration" or "justified". When their victims punch back, it's "stop this violence!" The IDF is only using a fraction of the violence that those beasts perpetrated on Oct 7. Ironic how none of those zombie NPCs say anything about what the rabid beasts did. |
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Originally Posted By sierra-def: Destroy Hamas so that Hamas can never return. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By Jack19: https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2023/11/624/351/a359a2d80d152ffa54f50097e0e96fb1.jpg?tl=1&ve=1 Emily Hand, who turns 9 years old on Friday, Nov. 17, is one of 32 children who were taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel. Her father, Thomas, was told early on that she had been killed. There will be no "Cease Fire." Destroy Hamas so that Hamas can never return. I think when the izzies are finished with the North end, they should then proceed with pushing the entire South end out, to rebuild the entirety of Gaza for themselves. Why should they cater to a race that hated them before, and will hate them even more now? Those "people" are incompatible with western culture and will always be a breeding ground for terrorists. They wanted war, they started war, and now they lost the war and should be banished and can take their ass and head cutting "religion" to Iran or somewhere they will love them and can all live in harmony. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRixq0m4T14 View Quote That vapid cunt has a perpetually confused look on her face |
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"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."
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Deckard “nobody wants to know the truth, nobody” Cobra Kai Johnny Lawrence “she’s hot and all those other things” Tucker Carlson 1/10/2018 “I used to be a liberatarian until Google”https://mobile.twitter.com/Henry_Gunn
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View Quote wow, trainwreck. but hey, good luck with that... |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-773852 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8960_jpeg-3031624.JPG View Quote You can’t fix that level of stupid. |
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There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
View Quote Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn |
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Hard drugs, guns, and nuclear stuff does not mix to well together. - R_Fury
Masturbation is a valid option - Naamah La liberté consiste à ne dépendre que des lois. - Voltaire R.I.P. tnsparky |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-773852 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8960_jpeg-3031624.JPG View Quote |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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Haaretz | Israel-Hamas War Day 43 | Thousands of Israelis March to Jerusalem With Families of Hostages Being Held by Hamas Nov 18, 2023
IDF attacks Hezbollah targets in Lebanon ■ Red Crescent: Five Palestinians killed in Israeli strike in West Bank ■ Palestinian reports: 26 killed in an IDF airstrike in southern Gaza ■ IDF kills Fatah militants in Nablus, West Bank; planned 'imminent terror attacks' ■ Hamas published a video showing 86-year-old Arye Zalmanovich, an Israeli hostage, raising concerns about his life ■ Israel's war cabinet decides to comply with a U.S. request to allow the daily entry of fuel trucks into Gaza ■ At least 1,200 civilians and soldiers killed since October 7; 239 hostages held in Gaza ■ Hamas-controlled health ministry: 11,240 killed IDF denies claims of having ordered the evacuation of Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital IDF kills West Bank militants who it says planned imminent terror attacks on Israelis The White House: 'We are working with Israel to ensure the continued delivery of fuel to Gaza' Palestinian news agency: 26 killed, mostly children, in Israeli bombardment of southern Gaza RECAP: Hamas publishes video of Israeli hostage; 4 wounded from anti-tank fire near Lebanon, barrage of rockets fired at Tel Aviv area View Quote Institute for Study of War Backgrounder 17 November. Key Takeaways: Israeli forces continued advancing eastwards from the al Shifa Hospital, which is consistent with Israeli efforts to establish evacuation corridors for civilians moving west-to-east in Gaza City. The IDF told the New York Times that it had captured a Hamas fighter at al Shifa Hospital and it had not “fully secured” the hospital as of November 17. Hamas highlighted the proximity of one of its tunnels to a mosque, which is notable given Hamas’ repeated claims that it does not use civilian infrastructure for military purposes. The al Qassem Brigades claimed that it detonated explosives in a tunnel during an Israeli clearing operation near al Nasr Mosque in Beit Hanoun, killing five IDF soldiers. This attack targeting Israeli forces behind the Israeli forward line of troops Palestinian militants clashed with and conducted IED attacks against Israeli forces in Jenin. Iranian-backed fighters, including Lebanese Hezbollah, conducted 17 cross-border attacks into northern Israel. The Islamic Resistance in Iraq—a coalition of Iranian-backed Iraqi militias—conducted three attacks targeting US positions in Iraq and Syria. The United States Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) designated Iranian-backed persons and entities as Specially Designated Nationals. OFAC reported that the persons and entities were involved in recent attacks on US forces in Iraq and Syria. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei’s official website refuted Western reports that Iran will not “directly” enter the Israel-Hamas war, likely to reassure Axis of Resistance members of Khamenei’s continued support for them. View Quote |
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