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Posted: 6/6/2019 7:54:56 AM EDT
[#1]
If I didn't know better, I'd start thinking the Constitution is a dead document!
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:01:15 AM EDT
[#2]
GoTtA gEt ThEm DoPeRz!!!!!
Once again, that "War on Drugs" exception to the 4th Amendment applies.... The War on Drugs should be ended because it has become a War On The Bill of Rights. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:03:55 AM EDT
[#3]
Whatever the perp gets as a sentence...give it to every cop who decided they didn’t need a warrant.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:40:16 AM EDT
[#4]
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"All agree: the DEA entry team entered Huskisson's house unlawfully" One should stop right there and ask the question why have the DEA agents that did this unlawful act not been charged? The answer is clear, government people are above the law.    |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:44:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Everyone went homw safe and the meth was off the street.
Good bust! |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:47:12 AM EDT
[#6]
Its okay they planned to get a warrant though
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:48:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Imminent discovery requires a pretty significant amount of justification.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:55:32 AM EDT
[#8]
Laws no longer matter.
We're in a post-Constutional period now. We're essentially at the point where Wiley-E-Coyote has run off the cliff, is hanging in mid-air, and is holding the "help" sign, right before he plummets into the abyss. Laws that violate the 2nd are willingly enforced daily. Judges and presidents and senators thinking they can ban shit willy-nilly... and not only does NOTHING happen to them, they fucking get re-elected. I know right from wrong. I also understand the Constitution and what the FF meant by it. I follow the laws i agree with, and ignore those i don't. Im about to commit multiple breaches of the law when i step off this morning, like i do every morning. Eat a dick: illegal laws, those that create said laws, those that enforce them, and those that abide by them. You're not American. Get the fuck out of my country. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:55:47 AM EDT
[#9]
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We are either a land of laws or we are not. Which is it? |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 8:56:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Re-read it. The excerpt posted said the govt had a lot of probable cause...... Im just saying I’d like to know the full story. The full story is the police acted illegally and are rewarded for it. This is where police should be sent to jail. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:00:07 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If I didn't know better, I'd start thinking the Constitution is a dead document! |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:08:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It says they saw drugs in his kitchen which makes me think it’s in plain view. Maybe they saw it from outside a window and worried that he would destroy the evidence before a warrant could be obtained. You are completely right, there are lots of what ifs. I’d like to know the full story before developing an opinion. Otherwise I’d be just like the “my baby didn’t do nuffin” mommas that we all think are retarded. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:15:34 AM EDT
[#13]
Our judicial system has become a joke. Time for an overhaul. Judges need to be held accountable for their opinions and activism.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:17:59 AM EDT
[#14]
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Is there a reason we’re only getting bits and pieces of the story instead of a link with all/most of the facts? 
PDF of court decision: https://tinylink.net/ibwnB Justia Opinion Summary "Arrested on drug conspiracy charges, Hardy led DEA agents to his drugs and guns and provided information that Hardy purchased methamphetamine from Huskisson six times over the preceding five months, for $8,000 per pound, at Huskisson’s house and at his car lot. Huskisson had stated that Huskisson’s source expected a shipment of methamphetamine the next day. Hardy called Huskisson. Agents recorded that conversation. Huskisson agreed to deliver 10-12 pounds of methamphetamine. The next day, the two agreed during additional recorded calls that the deal was to occur at Huskisson’s home that night. Agent Cline followed Hardy to Huskisson’s house; watched Hardy enter, with an entry team on standby; and saw a car pull into the driveway. Two men exited the car with a cooler and entered the house. Minutes later, Hardy walked outside and gave a prearranged signal to indicate he had seen methamphetamine in the house. No search warrant had yet been issued. The entry team entered the house and arrested Huskisson, who refused to consent to a search of his residence, and the other men. Officers saw in plain sight an open cooler with 10 saran-wrapped packages of a substance which field tested positive for methamphetamine. DEA agents then filed the warrant application, which stated: “The law enforcement officers observed an open cooler with ten saran wrapped packages that contained suspected methamphetamine. The suspected methamphetamine later field tested positive for the presence of methamphetamine.” The warrant issued four hours after the initial entry. The Seventh Circuit upheld denial of a motion to suppress. The entry was unlawful. Ordinarily, the evidence would be excluded but because the government had so much other evidence of probable cause, and had already planned to apply for a warrant, the evidence is admissible. Though the government should not profit from its bad behavior, neither should it be placed in a worse position." https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/18-1335/18-1335-2019-06-05.html |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:17:59 AM EDT
[#15]
Machiavelli Shrugged
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:19:25 AM EDT
[#16]
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I knew the 4th was dead, but they're raping its corpse on the dining room table now. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:19:56 AM EDT
[#17]
If you are the government, laws are only suggestions.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:23:10 AM EDT
[#18]
Different rules for the Kings men.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:24:48 AM EDT
[#19]
"The government concedes its illegal entry."
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:27:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes no difference. Had he shot a cop in an illegal raid he would be hung for it and the entirety of GD would be calling for his head. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:28:59 AM EDT
[#21]
Did somebody say 'impeachment'?
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:29:43 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not the entirety |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:31:47 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Laws no longer matter. We're in a post-Constutional period now. We're essentially at the point where Wiley-E-Coyote has run off the cliff, is hanging in mid-air, and is holding the "help" sign, right before he plummets into the abyss. Laws that violate the 2nd are willingly enforced daily. Judges and presidents and senators thinking they can ban shit willy-nilly... and not only does NOTHING happen to them, they fucking get re-elected. I know right from wrong. I also understand the Constitution and what the FF meant by it. I follow the laws i agree with, and ignore those i don't. Im about to commit multiple breaches of the law when i step off this morning, like i do every morning. Eat a dick: illegal laws, those that create said laws, those that enforce them, and those that abide by them. You're not American. Get the fuck out of my country. Witness the sanctuary city bullshit. Same deal. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:34:57 AM EDT
[#24]
I already planned to buy a legal full auto but made this one first. Is that okay judge?
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Posted: 6/6/2019 9:56:05 AM EDT
[#25]
yeah, thats some REAL WTF, right there.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:00:28 AM EDT
[#26]
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lol 
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:01:35 AM EDT
[#27]
Here's the ruling:
Link The court basically said "Yeah they entered illegally, and several hours later they wrote up a search warrant that included the fact that they found a lot of meth. But since the judge probably would have approved that search warrant if they left out the part about already finding meth before they wrote it, it's admissible evidence. Also, we realize the cop said during cross examination that they wouldn't have even applied for the warrant if they hadn't found the drugs, which would definitely make the evidence inadmissible, but he first told the prosecutor they would have applied for the warrant either way. Since the lower court decided to ignore the conflicting testimony and go with his first statement, we'll go with that too. It's our duty to not put cops in a bad position." |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:04:17 AM EDT
[#28]
I'd say this is banana republic behavior......but at least banana republics are more open about it.....
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:11:47 AM EDT
[#29]
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I agree. Depending on how fast the detective can type and how good their go-by is (and if the judge is awake) it should've taken about two hours from start to finish. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:14:36 AM EDT
[#30]
We need to raid the house to see if we need a warrant.
We need to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. The Federal Gov is a complete fraud. DNC = America’s Mob |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:19:45 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Laws no longer matter. We're in a post-Constutional period now. Laws that violate the 2nd are willingly enforced daily. Judges and presidents and senators thinking they can ban shit willy-nilly... and not only does NOTHING happen to them, they fucking get re-elected. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:22:27 AM EDT
[#32]
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We need to raid the house to see if we need a warrant. We need to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. The Federal Gov is a complete fraud. DNC = America’s Mob |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:28:05 AM EDT
[#33]
That's a big nope for me dog.
You either obey the law or don't. When you don't you don't get to profit from breaking the law. Judge is wrong and needs to be hung. He's the absolute worst kind of government functionary, one that will fuck you so the government wins, even when it's wrong. That judge is shitting on all of us. I hope he gets cancer and it hurts a lot till he dies. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:33:16 AM EDT
[#34]
"Though the government should not profit from its bad behavior, neither should it be placed in a worse position." The exclusionary rule acknowledges that the only way to get the government to behave and to obey the law is to put it in a worse position. This holding reduces the 4A to "that's close enough for government work." |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:35:56 AM EDT
[#35]
It's okay guys, next time they will totally get a warrant first. Pinky promise.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:41:11 AM EDT
[#36]
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Did SCOTUS overturn its exclusionary rule holding while I was washing my hair? The exclusionary rule acknowledges that the only way to get the government to behave and to obey the law is to put it in a worse position. This holding reduces the 4A to "that's close enough for government work." Quote HistoryQuoted:
"Though the government should not profit from its bad behavior, neither should it be placed in a worse position." The exclusionary rule acknowledges that the only way to get the government to behave and to obey the law is to put it in a worse position. This holding reduces the 4A to "that's close enough for government work." 
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:41:42 AM EDT
[#37]
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A raid without a warrant is called home invasion. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:43:37 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Laws no longer matter. We're in a post-Constutional period now. We're essentially at the point where Wiley-E-Coyote has run off the cliff, is hanging in mid-air, and is holding the "help" sign, right before he plummets into the abyss. Laws that violate the 2nd are willingly enforced daily. Judges and presidents and senators thinking they can ban shit willy-nilly... and not only does NOTHING happen to them, they fucking get re-elected. I know right from wrong. I also understand the Constitution and what the FF meant by it. I follow the laws i agree with, and ignore those i don't. Im about to commit multiple breaches of the law when i step off this morning, like i do every morning. Eat a dick: illegal laws, those that create said laws, those that enforce them, and those that abide by them. You're not American. Get the fuck out of my country. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:44:24 AM EDT
[#39]
So now "planning" on getting a warrant is the same thing as getting one.
What a wonderful time we live in these days. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:45:13 AM EDT
[#40]
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So now "planning" on getting a warrant is the same thing as getting one. What a wonderful time we live in these days.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:46:43 AM EDT
[#41]
Hoist the black flag.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:48:53 AM EDT
[#42]
The most dangerous phrase in America today: "It's for the Greater Good."
DUI Checkpoints Eminent Domain that benefits private interests. The Patriot Act Asset Forfeiture |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:54:04 AM EDT
[#43]
GFYS Judge!
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Posted: 6/6/2019 10:57:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2019 11:00:19 AM EDT
[#45]
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A team of DEA agents raided a house hours before they applied for a search warrant. 7th Cir.: "We do not condone this illegal behavior by law enforcement," but the agents did get a warrant after the search, so no need to suppress the evidence they found inside the house. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8VGi_jUEAAibMU.png https://i.imgur.com/eDdEDiU.png |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 11:03:40 AM EDT
[#46]
It would be better if we had laws and followed them I suppose but in certain cases you don't have to.
All depending upon who you are and what the end results are. On the other hand if I lived in that neighborhood I'd be breathing a sigh of relief right now. But since I don't I am nearly outraged. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 11:11:44 AM EDT
[#47]
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So I can have NFA items now, as long as I plan to submit the paperwork later? Be sensible. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 11:13:13 AM EDT
[#48]
Is this some kind of fucking joke!!??
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Posted: 6/6/2019 11:17:59 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote History Steppenwolf - Monster (lyric Video) |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 11:19:10 AM EDT
[#50]
I have a million dollars in my checking account.
I rob the bank. I get caught. But I was planning on withdrawing the money legally, but I got caught first. |
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