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Posted: 7/22/2022 10:12:21 AM EDT
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People at the dam say the lake will drop another 20ft by the end of the year (3:37)
 Lake Mead Drought Update!!! Lowest It's Ever Been!!! |
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Posted: 7/25/2022 12:52:17 AM EDT
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So if it goes down anther 20 feet where does that put the elevation in relation to dead pool?
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Posted: 7/25/2022 7:37:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a good question, if the water cannot get past the dam, will the river below dry up? Guessing if they do not make a path open below the lowest drain, it will not get any more water. I don't think they ever expected the water level to get this low when they designed/built the dam. I have been to the dam several times over the years. Took the full tour once. I think the only way water gets from the dam side to the river side is thru the power plant or the emergency spill ways. My first trip was 1995 and I recall it had a lot of water. Last trip was a few years ago, it looked like it does now. I was there in 1997, I think it was at max capacity at that point. |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 7:06:07 PM EDT
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Las Vegas' worst water wasters are publicly identified – including Mike Tyson, Imagine Dragons' Dan Reynolds, UFC boss Dana White and the Sultan of Brunei – as West Coast drought intensifies
   Top of the list is a home owned by the Sultan of Brunei who in 2020 used over 12 million gallons of water and for the first 6 months of 2021 used 6,380,000 gallons – well over 1 million gallons a month   Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie, 71, used 4.955 million gallons of water for her mansion in Henderson, Nevada   The home of billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who died in January 2021, used more than 11 million gallons of water in 2020. After his death, it still accounted for more than more than 5 million gallons in the first six months of 2021. His wife Miriam still lives there  The 43,000 sq feet home, now owned by Adelson's widow Miriam, has 8 bedrooms and 19.5 bathrooms and sits on 2.5 acres.  Angel Park Golf Club is a public 36-hole golf course designed by Arnold Palmer. On its website it calls itself 'the world's original natural grass putting course.' The golf course used 436.8 millions gallons of water in 2020, – a whooping 1.19 million gallons a day. More |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 7:24:54 PM EDT
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Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)?
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Posted: 7/26/2022 10:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)? (Removed, CoC-6~guns762) You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 1:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So if it goes down anther 20 feet where does that put the elevation in relation to dead pool? From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 1:17:44 PM EDT
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(Removed, CoC-6 ~guns762)
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Posted: 7/27/2022 1:28:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (Removed-guns762). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: (Removed-guns762) You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. (Removed-guns762). It's ridiculous how many idiots post the same retarded shit over and over. Darcy is 100% on point. Stop being edgy and ignorant. Read before posting. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 2:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)? |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 2:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ridiculous how many idiots post the same retarded shit over and over. Darcy is 100% on point. Stop being edgy and ignorant. Read before posting. Nah. Darcy is being sensitive sally and can choose to ignore "edgy and ignorant". |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 2:23:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (Removed-guns762) You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. wow...karen alert maybe they shouldnt build where there is no water...... 
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Posted: 7/27/2022 2:31:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow...karen alert maybe they shouldnt build where there is no water...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU GOD DAMN LOW INFORMATION VOTER. FUCK!!!!!! You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. wow...karen alert maybe they shouldnt build where there is no water...... lol no shit |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 2:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ridiculous how many idiots post the same retarded shit over and over. Darcy is 100% on point. Stop being edgy and ignorant. Read before posting. Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)? (Removed-guns762) It's ridiculous how many idiots post the same retarded shit over and over. Darcy is 100% on point. Stop being edgy and ignorant. Read before posting. Personally, I think that they shouldn't build in areas that are typically dry. I can't believe that no one has said this yet! |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 3:22:01 PM EDT
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Call me Karen or Sally or whatever you want, you’re the ones who can follow the very well supported arguments that have taken place over 11 pages of this thread.
Your statement to not live in the desert is ignorant and based on feelings, just like the liberals. But you do you, you know where the ignore button is if I hurt your feelings. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 11:27:46 AM EDT
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 Latest discovery at Lake Mead confirmed as partial human remains |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 11:29:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)? Agreed. It’s this simple. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 11:45:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. Bet they are pissed the spent that money vs what boring company could do it for now. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 12:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bet they are pissed the spent that money vs what boring company could do it for now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. Bet they are pissed the spent that money vs what boring company could do it for now. I am not sure any City or politician ever gets upset about spending money. The Public should be. 1.5b for 3 miles of pipe.  Edit, some quick math on the English Chunnel, adjusted for inflation, the 31 mile chunnel cost $15,509,476,765.40/31.35 miles = $494720152.01/mile. x3 = $1484160456.02. Almost the same as the LV drinking pipe. Hmmmm. Someone has a lock on chunneling. I paid our local gas company to extend the main natural gas line 200ft down the street to get NG to my house for heating. The above numbers are also about what they charged for 200ft of gas line. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 3:42:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every fruit and vegetable has a season. The ones you see in the off season come from out of the country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Or the rest of the country can stop demanding that we have every kind of fruit available year round and California can stop irrigating. Every fruit and vegetable has a season. The ones you see in the off season come from out of the country. False. A large percentage of the USA’s winter vegetable supply comes from the Imperial Valley (CA) and Yuma (AZ) areas which are irrigated with Colorado river water. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 3:48:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)?  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol no shit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU GOD DAMN LOW INFORMATION VOTER. FUCK!!!!!! You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. wow...karen alert maybe they shouldnt build where there is no water...... lol no shit That's hilarious form someone in LA. Oh noes...... My city is built below sea level and flooded during a hurricane. Someone needs to do something about this! |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't build cities in places that are naturally dry and don't have enough water to support them (LA, LV, etc)? They didn't. Agriculture expanded to feed THE ENTIRE COUNTRY winter vegetables . There's exponentially more water than the cities need. Just not enough to grow winter crops for a growing national population. So at the end of the day we'll probably have to start importing more winter foods and food prices go up. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reacting to chicken little rantings is not "complaining". People are stating factual accounts that water usage in CA from Mead are too high. That is a fact, correct? Why they use too much is, as you claim, because "it's cheap". You're saying the same damn thing. No complaint, just a fact. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:I didn't state they weren't causing problems. Just stated that you guys would be complaining either way. Reacting to chicken little rantings is not "complaining". People are stating factual accounts that water usage in CA from Mead are too high. That is a fact, correct? Why they use too much is, as you claim, because "it's cheap". You're saying the same damn thing. No complaint, just a fact. Since you want to talk facts, the fact is California doesn’t take water out of lake Mead. The first place California draws water from the Colorado river is way down stream from the Hoover damn near Fort Mojave. The majority of the water diverted or pumped from the river by California is in Imperial county (about 75%) and lake Havasu just above Parker dam (about 25%). The reason California uses the amount of water it does from the Colorado river is because that’s what’s legally allocated to California by “The Law of the River.” The law of the river is what keeps water flowing out of Hoover damn even though the level of lake Mead has fallen so low. If you want to permanently change the allocation of river water amongst the state’s and Mexico, you’re going to have to get congress to change it. They’re the ones that set those allocations in 1928. There’s also numerous related legal rulings that govern those allocations. Combined, it’s called The Law of the River |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens when the water no longer runs past the damn? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I get that the straws have heights where they can draw water for generation of power and whatnot... Does the Damn have a way to drain at the base or similar, to actually keep the river flowing without generating power? How low can it get and still drain water into the river? When the dam was built they had to create diversion tunnels to create a dry space to build the dam. Link to picture of tunnels. They appear to be at the lowest point. According to Wiki, they are plugged. Guessing the plugs could be removed to allow water to go from the lake > downstream. Interesting. Wonder what they plugged them with. Bet concrete. Oh yes lots of concrete. They never ever expected to need them again. Guessing if they get to the point of removing the plugs it’s the end of the world type shit. What happens when the water no longer runs past the damn? The river below the dam dries up and no water is able to be diverted below the dam. California loses about 12-15% of its total water supply. Prices of alfalfa, fruits, and vegetables go up as supply plummets due to lack of irrigation water. The portion that’s used in California metropolitan areas from the river will have to come from the Sierra which means less for agriculture in the Central Valley (see the fruits and vegetable comment above). Arizona loses a sizable amount of its water supply from the river, most of which, just like California, is used for irrigation. (See the the fruits and vegetable part above). Mexico gets none of its allocated river water. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Las Vegas' worst water wasters are publicly identified – including Mike Tyson, Imagine Dragons' Dan Reynolds, UFC boss Dana White and the Sultan of Brunei – as West Coast drought intensifies https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60721995-11050045-image-a-33_1658860663805.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60722003-11050045-image-a-42_1658860720301.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60721985-11050045-image-m-41_1658860715745.jpg Top of the list is a home owned by the Sultan of Brunei who in 2020 used over 12 million gallons of water and for the first 6 months of 2021 used 6,380,000 gallons – well over 1 million gallons a month https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723049-11050045-Walmart_heiress_Nancy_Walton_Laurie_71_used_4_955_million_gallon-a-103_1658863206447.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60710783-11050045-Walmart_heiress_Nancy_Walton_Laurie_71_used_4_955_million_gallon-m-102_1658863201047.jpg Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie, 71, used 4.955 million gallons of water for her mansion in Henderson, Nevada https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723531-11050045-The_home_of_billionaire_Sheldon_Adelson_who_died_in_January_2021-m-113_1658863906924.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60710747-11050045-The_home_of_billionaire_Sheldon_Adelson_who_died_in_January_2021-a-114_1658863911975.jpg The home of billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who died in January 2021, used more than 11 million gallons of water in 2020. After his death, it still accounted for more than more than 5 million gallons in the first six months of 2021. His wife Miriam still lives there https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723519-11050045-image-a-115_1658863933017.jpg The 43,000 sq feet home, now owned by Adelson's widow Miriam, has 8 bedrooms and 19.5 bathrooms and sits on 2.5 acres. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723249-11050045-image-a-109_1658863328803.jpg Angel Park Golf Club is a public 36-hole golf course designed by Arnold Palmer. On its website it calls itself 'the world's original natural grass putting course.' The golf course used 436.8 millions gallons of water in 2020, – a whooping 1.19 million gallons a day. More It’s a waste of time to focus on that in regards to lake mead water levels. Nevada’s water allocation for the Colorado river is 300,000 acre feet or 97,755,000,000 gallons per year. That equals Approx 3’ of lake Mead water level. Due to returns of treated water by Nevada, they’re normally under their allocation anyway. Evaporation from lake mead takes away approx 2x that, about 600,000 acre feet per year. The impact of Nevada’s use of Colorado river water is minute in the big scheme of things. The approx 3 MAF that Southern California agriculture uses annually has the biggest impact. That’s not just a California issue despite what many want to believe though. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:45:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:48:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Las Vegas' worst water wasters are publicly identified – including Mike Tyson, Imagine Dragons' Dan Reynolds, UFC boss Dana White and the Sultan of Brunei – as West Coast drought intensifies https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60721995-11050045-image-a-33_1658860663805.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60722003-11050045-image-a-42_1658860720301.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60721985-11050045-image-m-41_1658860715745.jpg Top of the list is a home owned by the Sultan of Brunei who in 2020 used over 12 million gallons of water and for the first 6 months of 2021 used 6,380,000 gallons – well over 1 million gallons a month https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723049-11050045-Walmart_heiress_Nancy_Walton_Laurie_71_used_4_955_million_gallon-a-103_1658863206447.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60710783-11050045-Walmart_heiress_Nancy_Walton_Laurie_71_used_4_955_million_gallon-m-102_1658863201047.jpg Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie, 71, used 4.955 million gallons of water for her mansion in Henderson, Nevada https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723531-11050045-The_home_of_billionaire_Sheldon_Adelson_who_died_in_January_2021-m-113_1658863906924.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60710747-11050045-The_home_of_billionaire_Sheldon_Adelson_who_died_in_January_2021-a-114_1658863911975.jpg The home of billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who died in January 2021, used more than 11 million gallons of water in 2020. After his death, it still accounted for more than more than 5 million gallons in the first six months of 2021. His wife Miriam still lives there https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723519-11050045-image-a-115_1658863933017.jpg The 43,000 sq feet home, now owned by Adelson's widow Miriam, has 8 bedrooms and 19.5 bathrooms and sits on 2.5 acres. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723249-11050045-image-a-109_1658863328803.jpg Angel Park Golf Club is a public 36-hole golf course designed by Arnold Palmer. On its website it calls itself 'the world's original natural grass putting course.' The golf course used 436.8 millions gallons of water in 2020, – a whooping 1.19 million gallons a day. More Meanwhile, in Commiefornia as billions of gallons are wasted…tiny ass Nevada’s share of water is under scrutiny LOL. Get out of here with that nonsense.
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a waste of time to focus on that in regards to lake mead water levels. Nevada’s water allocation for the Colorado river is 300,000 acre feet or 97,755,000,000 gallons per year. That equals Approx 3’ of lake Mead water level. Due to returns of treated water by Nevada, they’re normally under their allocation anyway. Evaporation from lake mead takes away approx 2x that, about 600,000 acre feet per year. The impact of Nevada’s use of Colorado river water is minute in the big scheme of things. The 3 MAF that Southern California agriculture uses annually has the biggest impact. That’s not just a California issue despite what many want to believe though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Las Vegas' worst water wasters are publicly identified – including Mike Tyson, Imagine Dragons' Dan Reynolds, UFC boss Dana White and the Sultan of Brunei – as West Coast drought intensifies https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60721995-11050045-image-a-33_1658860663805.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60722003-11050045-image-a-42_1658860720301.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/19/60721985-11050045-image-m-41_1658860715745.jpg Top of the list is a home owned by the Sultan of Brunei who in 2020 used over 12 million gallons of water and for the first 6 months of 2021 used 6,380,000 gallons – well over 1 million gallons a month https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723049-11050045-Walmart_heiress_Nancy_Walton_Laurie_71_used_4_955_million_gallon-a-103_1658863206447.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60710783-11050045-Walmart_heiress_Nancy_Walton_Laurie_71_used_4_955_million_gallon-m-102_1658863201047.jpg Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie, 71, used 4.955 million gallons of water for her mansion in Henderson, Nevada https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723531-11050045-The_home_of_billionaire_Sheldon_Adelson_who_died_in_January_2021-m-113_1658863906924.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60710747-11050045-The_home_of_billionaire_Sheldon_Adelson_who_died_in_January_2021-a-114_1658863911975.jpg The home of billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who died in January 2021, used more than 11 million gallons of water in 2020. After his death, it still accounted for more than more than 5 million gallons in the first six months of 2021. His wife Miriam still lives there https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723519-11050045-image-a-115_1658863933017.jpg The 43,000 sq feet home, now owned by Adelson's widow Miriam, has 8 bedrooms and 19.5 bathrooms and sits on 2.5 acres. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/26/20/60723249-11050045-image-a-109_1658863328803.jpg Angel Park Golf Club is a public 36-hole golf course designed by Arnold Palmer. On its website it calls itself 'the world's original natural grass putting course.' The golf course used 436.8 millions gallons of water in 2020, – a whooping 1.19 million gallons a day. More It’s a waste of time to focus on that in regards to lake mead water levels. Nevada’s water allocation for the Colorado river is 300,000 acre feet or 97,755,000,000 gallons per year. That equals Approx 3’ of lake Mead water level. Due to returns of treated water by Nevada, they’re normally under their allocation anyway. Evaporation from lake mead takes away approx 2x that, about 600,000 acre feet per year. The impact of Nevada’s use of Colorado river water is minute in the big scheme of things. The 3 MAF that Southern California agriculture uses annually has the biggest impact. That’s not just a California issue despite what many want to believe though. angel park is using reclaimed water. I am kind of surprised those homes use that much water for some fucking palm trees and a bit of grass, seems like something else might be going on with them |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:02:29 PM EDT
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The whole idea of "Don't build where it's dry" is just ignorant.
Many many places wouldn't be able to exist without modern irrigation or water pumping systems. How many cities or towns are built without direct access to a river or lake? How much food is produced with irrigation water that has to be pumped in? Even with that said, California is literally next to an ocean, most of their water still comes from rivers or is pumped in from elsewhere, is extremely cost prohibitive to desalinate ocean water for consumption or irrigation. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not sure any City or politician ever gets upset about spending money. The Public should be. 1.5b for 3 miles of pipe. Edit, some quick math on the English Chunnel, adjusted for inflation, the 31 mile chunnel cost $15,509,476,765.40/31.35 miles = $494720152.01/mile. x3 = $1484160456.02. Almost the same as the LV drinking pipe. Hmmmm. Someone has a lock on chunneling. I paid our local gas company to extend the main natural gas line 200ft down the street to get NG to my house for heating. The above numbers are also about what they charged for 200ft of gas line. 500M/5,280ft=95k/ft |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:16:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sure, most of you already knew that. I remember the first time I visited Vegas in 2008 you could see the water regression lines. What is the long term solution to this ? If you go to “Sin City Outdoors” YouTube channel they have some great videos. Well, they could start not expanding anymore in Las Vegas, Phx, and Southern California. Imperial Valley sucks up enormous amounts of water too from the Colorado. Desalination plants? Siphon/pumped pipeline from the Mississippi to the Colorado Head waters? |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:23:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, they could start not expanding anymore in Las Vegas, Phx, and Southern California. Imperial Valley sucks up enormous amounts of water too from the Colorado. Desalination plants? vegas is not the problem  pretty sure we sell some of that apportion too |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:25:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's hilarious form someone in LA. Oh noes...... My city is built below sea level and flooded during a hurricane. Someone needs to do something about this! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU GOD DAMN LOW INFORMATION VOTER. FUCK!!!!!! You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. wow...karen alert maybe they shouldnt build where there is no water...... lol no shit That's hilarious form someone in LA. Oh noes...... My city is built below sea level and flooded during a hurricane. Someone needs to do something about this! actually I am 6 feet above sea level 
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:29:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole idea of "Don't build where it's dry" is just ignorant. Many many places wouldn't be able to exist without modern irrigation or water pumping systems. How many cities or towns are built without direct access to a river or lake? How much food is produced with irrigation water that has to be pumped in? Even with that said, California is literally next to an ocean, most of their water still comes from rivers or is pumped in from elsewhere, is extremely cost prohibitive to desalinate ocean water for consumption or irrigation. Only 12-15% of California's water is "pumped in from elsewhere", elsewhere being from the Colorado River downstream from lake Mead/Hoover Dam. About 70-75% of that is used for irrigation. Desal is not extremely cost prohibitive. The largest Desal plant in the USA, and I believe the Western Hemisphere, is like 5 miles from where I'm sitting. That one desal plant provides 50,000,000 gallons of water each day or about 8% of San Diego county's fresh water supply. The actual problem with desal is the environmentalists and nimby population throwing up road blocks to building more. They continue to try to get the Carlsbad desal plant closed down. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:05:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya paid 19 million dollars for your gas line? Damn! 500M/5,280ft=95k/ft Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am not sure any City or politician ever gets upset about spending money. The Public should be. 1.5b for 3 miles of pipe. Edit, some quick math on the English Chunnel, adjusted for inflation, the 31 mile chunnel cost $15,509,476,765.40/31.35 miles = $494720152.01/mile. x3 = $1484160456.02. Almost the same as the LV drinking pipe. Hmmmm. Someone has a lock on chunneling. I paid our local gas company to extend the main natural gas line 200ft down the street to get NG to my house for heating. The above numbers are also about what they charged for 200ft of gas line. 500M/5,280ft=95k/ft It feels like 19m. Dry, no lube. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:32:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. Ok I have that, I guess I should rephrase my question, if it’s gone down another 20’ this year where are we at elevation wise now? |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:38:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If we really wanted to have a long term impact we could keyline the marginal areas of the desert SW. Run swales on contour and create reservoirs wherever it's practical to do so and plant pioneer species in the spoil to shade the ground and cover the soil. Given enough time we could significantly increase the reliability of rainfall not only in the SW but across the midwest and the continent and increase our total arable and agricultural land. China and Africa have been working on desert terraforming projects for decades already. In the near term demand is going to have to be reduced for water from Mead if trends hold. I always tell the peopel thinking we can terraform Mars that if we cant terraform place on Terra. It aint happening on Mars. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:38:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: False. A large percentage of the USA’s winter vegetable supply comes from the Imperial Valley (CA) and Yuma (AZ) areas which are irrigated with Colorado river water. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Or the rest of the country can stop demanding that we have every kind of fruit available year round and California can stop irrigating. Every fruit and vegetable has a season. The ones you see in the off season come from out of the country. False. A large percentage of the USA’s winter vegetable supply comes from the Imperial Valley (CA) and Yuma (AZ) areas which are irrigated with Colorado river water. Not for much longer, quite a large amount of fresh fruits and vegetables are now coming from South America. Many of the large companies here have invested in farms in Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Honduras, etc. you may see Dole for example but the fruit is from either north, central or South America depending on the time of year. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:41:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Almond farmers are at fault
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:44:41 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ridiculous how many idiots post the same retarded shit over and over. Darcy is 100% on point. Stop being edgy and ignorant. Read before posting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU GOD DAMN LOW INFORMATION VOTER. FUCK!!!!!! You post like an ignorant ass Democrat. This has been covered multiple fucking times. Extensively. Someone is a little Sensitive Sally today. Is everything alright, Sensitive Sally? Poor little Sensitive Sally. It's ridiculous how many idiots post the same retarded shit over and over. Darcy is 100% on point. Stop being edgy and ignorant. Read before posting. 13'er, what do you expect. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 8:47:48 PM EDT
[#42]
in Vegas, some of the big casinos had well permits to tap the aquifer. Years ago, an old friend that worked at one let me know how much they let run into the sewer to meet the minimum volumes needed to keep that permit.
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Posted: 7/28/2022 9:01:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok I have that, I guess I should rephrase my question, if it’s gone down another 20’ this year where are we at elevation wise now? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. Ok I have that, I guess I should rephrase my question, if it’s gone down another 20’ this year where are we at elevation wise now? 1,040.71 Feet MSL Thursday, July 28, 2022. 4:00:00 PM. Lake Mead daily water level |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 9:33:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. Thank you! Ok I have that, I guess I should rephrase my question, if it’s gone down another 20’ this year where are we at elevation wise now? 1,040.71 Feet MSL Thursday, July 28, 2022. 4:00:00 PM. Lake Mead daily water level |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 9:45:24 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok I have that, I guess I should rephrase my question, if it’s gone down another 20’ this year where are we at elevation wise now? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. Ok I have that, I guess I should rephrase my question, if it’s gone down another 20’ this year where are we at elevation wise now? 1040.63 on 27 July. LOWER COLORADO RIVER DAILY REPORT: Current Month (Daily Data) https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/hourly/levels.html |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 9:46:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Almond farmers are at fault 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 8:19:20 AM EDT
[#47]
Flooding in Las Vegas. Wondering if any of that will end up in Lake Mead. NPS site doesn’t reflect it yet.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 8:28:23 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the Lake Mead wiki: If water levels continue to drop, Hoover Dam would cease generating electricity when the water level falls below 950 feet (290 m) and the lake would stabilize at a level of 895 feet (273 m) when the water reaches the lowest water outlet of the dam. In order to ensure that the city of Las Vegas will continue to be able to draw its drinking water from Lake Mead, nearly $1.5 billion was spent on building a new water intake tunnel in the middle of the lake at the elevation of 860 feet (260 m). The 3-mile (4.8 km) tunnel took seven years to build under the lake and was put into operation in late 2015. No power at 950ft. No water downstream of dam at 895ft. No drinking water to LV below 860ft. There is over 10,000 cfs flowing in every day. https://lakemead.water-data.com/ |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 8:33:13 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Almond farmers are at fault How? Almond farms are north of the land irrigated by the Colorado. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 8:48:24 AM EDT
[#50]
Please, let's not respond with personal attacks and insults~guns762
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