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Posted: 12/24/2022 3:40:57 PM EDT
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I like this.
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Posted: 12/24/2022 4:12:33 PM EDT
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Super scary but super awesome at the same time.
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Posted: 12/24/2022 4:41:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it knows where it is. By knowing where it isn't? Ah damn, gotta be faster than that. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 4:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have to be pretty close to generate 10,000psi overpressure. Which is an insanely high amount. IIRC most all non hardened structures are destroyed at under 10psi. 40psi is lethal. Either that or just excavate all the ground around it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:04:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sigh. Yeah probably, and the WING WONG 5 and VODKA 12 are the only operational hypersonic missiles. Yep the US sucks and can't even keep a secret about anything and the government never lies about advanced weapons tech. It's ridiculous and outrageous. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, a 100 kiloton warhead misses if it's off by 150 meters? Those missile silos must be pretty tough. That's kind of the point |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep the US sucks and can't even keep a secret about anything and the government never lies about advanced weapons tech. It's ridiculous and outrageous. Well the tech has been around since the 1980's, chances are the Russians are aware of it. As far as secrets go, this probably on the back end. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:13:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, a 100 kiloton warhead misses if it's off by 150 meters? Those missile silos must be pretty tough. Finest Soviet craftsmanship. 
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:17:18 PM EDT
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Big shots try to hold it back, fools try to wish it away.
The hopeful depend on a world without end..... |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well the tech has been around since the 1980's, chances are the Russians are aware of it. As far as secrets go, this probably on the back end. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep the US sucks and can't even keep a secret about anything and the government never lies about advanced weapons tech. It's ridiculous and outrageous. Well the tech has been around since the 1980's, chances are the Russians are aware of it. As far as secrets go, this probably on the back end. So has the F22 yet the kung pao commies and the vodka commies haven't figured that out yet either lmao 
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:25:23 PM EDT
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D5 had a rough start but has worked out well
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:38:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That pic with the Christmas lights on the warheads made me literally lol. Why’s there no star on top? Because the star is inside… |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:39:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So has the F22 yet the kung pao commies and the vodka commies haven't figured that out yet either lmao https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/1647981444918-2322773.jpg “Figuring it out” is the first problem Tech can be stolen. Actually producing a reliable system based on that tech is where the Russians and Chicoms fail. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:45:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From this it derives a difference or error Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It also knows where it isn’t.. From this it derives a difference or error  I love this place. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:48:37 PM EDT
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OP thanks for posting. Back in the day I was on the Trident II implementation team.
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Posted: 12/24/2022 8:28:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still don't understand it, but guess the warhead can somehow tell it's miss distance as it gets close to impact and figures out the best time and height to burst. It's using radar to determine it's actual trajectory versus the location of the desired target, and detonating at the point in that trajectory that delivers the maximum pressure to the intended hard target point. This is mostly for silos but could also be useful against other hardened ground targets. With this fuse one would actually aim beyond the target instead of right at it, to almost guarantee that the warhead will go though the "dome" of effective detonation points. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 10:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Article talks about Trident, but that's an old Minuteman three-banger bus with Mk12As. Still making it my wallpaper, though.  LOL Maybe not walpaper but I got my uses for that there crimmas pic. Wish they'd a used colored lights at least and covered up that ratty pallet it's sitting on. Sheesh, eleventy gajillion bucks of my tax dollars there sitting on a damn wood pallet. Not even the Army was that cheap! We didn't have no mirv's in the Army tho.... |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 11:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Big shots try to hold it back, fools try to wish it away. The hopeful depend on a world without end..... 
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Posted: 12/25/2022 12:01:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's using radar to determine it's actual trajectory versus the location of the desired target, and detonating at the point in that trajectory that delivers the maximum pressure to the intended hard target point. This is mostly for silos but could also be useful against other hardened ground targets. With this fuse one would actually aim beyond the target instead of right at it, to almost guarantee that the warhead will go though the "dome" of effective detonation points. Correct. When you are trying to maximize the overpressure, you want to combine both the incident wave and the reflected wave. So calculating the best spot to maximize the overpressure typically means you want to be a specific distance away from the target. https://atomicarchive.com/resources/documents/effects/glasstone-dolan/chapter3.html |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 1:03:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP thanks for posting. Back in the day I was on the Trident II implementation team. @thebomber I find this stuff fascinating. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 1:04:54 AM EDT
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You can't hug a child with nuclear arms.
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Posted: 12/25/2022 1:06:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. When you are trying to maximize the overpressure, you want to combine both the incident wave and the reflected wave. So calculating the best spot to maximize the overpressure typically means you want to be a specific distance away from the target. https://atomicarchive.com/resources/documents/effects/glasstone-dolan/chapter3.html @LordEC911 The system wants to be within a specific distance to the target to create 10,000 psi on target. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 8:14:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @thebomber I find this stuff fascinating. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP thanks for posting. Back in the day I was on the Trident II implementation team. @thebomber I find this stuff fascinating. As do I. Back in the mid 80s I was just out of college and a Process Control Engineer for GE Aerospace. We were fielding the very first Trident II fire control systems and IMUs. A sister Division made thevre-entry vehicles. This was state of the art to say the least. My job required me to be in test berths which required me to get cleared. Very exciting for a 23 year old just out of college. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 8:28:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/25/2022 8:58:58 AM EDT
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Interesting.... Aren't the Chinese building one hell of a dense packed silo field now?
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Posted: 12/25/2022 9:47:38 AM EDT
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Put on some Doobie Brothers
Assymetrically, it will all come together |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 12:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nuke Thread |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 12:43:50 PM EDT
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"Russian hardened targets 3 fold."
When did we Declare war on Russia` why not China? |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 12:51:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Russian hardened targets 3 fold." When did we Declare war on Russia` why not China? Last I checked we hadn’t declared war on either. Although I suspect the technology can be used against Chinese targets as well as Russian ones. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 3:35:08 PM EDT
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Or you could fly a B2/B21 over and drop a couple Hatchets to damage the lid mechanism for the silo so that it can't open. One bomber could carry enough Hatchets to disable the whole silo network.
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Posted: 12/25/2022 4:27:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or you could fly a B2/B21 over and drop a couple Hatchets to damage the lid mechanism for the silo so that it can't open. One bomber could carry enough Hatchets to disable the whole silo network.  Minuteman III ICBM Launch  Missile Silo Opening & Launch Yep. Hatchets to the doors and they're all fucked. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 4:32:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well the tech has been around since the 1980's, chances are the Russians are aware of it. As far as secrets go, this probably on the back end. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep the US sucks and can't even keep a secret about anything and the government never lies about advanced weapons tech. It's ridiculous and outrageous. Well the tech has been around since the 1980's, chances are the Russians are aware of it. As far as secrets go, this probably on the back end. |
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Posted: 12/25/2022 4:43:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I get it but, it would still be nice if we could keep secrets a little better than we do . . . How would you know how well the important secrets are kept? 
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Posted: 12/25/2022 4:45:32 PM EDT
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Think about SpaceX landing the Falcon 9's boosters on those ships at sea.
Then add in the same thing but with a multiple warheads launched from ONE ballistic missle. You start thinking the destruction just one arm of our nuclear force can do. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:41:11 PM EDT
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Upgrading the W88 as well
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