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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:43:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Who's Marie? Is she like Karen but has her own troops?
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:45:07 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm confused. Do we celebrate diversity or do we not? His comments seem hostile to it.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:47:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy?
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? You fly it upside down 
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:49:21 PM EDT
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Figured it would have been banned years ago and chalked up to being an "extremist" symbol.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? You should fly the flag of defeatism in New York. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:51:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? Same reason they used the SS?  And if I remember right they had a logo/emblem that looked like the Afrika Corps. Or still do. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:51:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's Marie? Is she like Karen but has her own troops? |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:51:59 PM EDT
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Times must be good if this is what they are worried about.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:53:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? I give up my guns, ammo, and regular magazines should be your state motto. As well as i love paying the king's men and being in a union, voluntarily. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I give up my guns, ammo, and regular magazines should be your state motto. As well as i love paying the king's men and being in a union, voluntarily. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? I give up my guns, ammo, and regular magazines should be your state motto. As well as i love paying the king's men and being in a union, voluntarily. Quoted: Quoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? You should fly the flag of defeatism in New York. And to think, still lost to us. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:55:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's Marie? Is she like Karen but has her own troops? I don't think they are Karens. I think they are divers. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:56:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Times must be good if this is what they are worried about. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:57:09 PM EDT
[#14]
I saw it flying all the time while I was in the military. Bet you can fly many other “divisive” flags tho . Double standards and all ...
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And to think, still lost to us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? I give up my guns, ammo, and regular magazines should be your state motto. As well as i love paying the king's men and being in a union, voluntarily. Quoted: Quoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? You should fly the flag of defeatism in New York. And to think, still lost to us. I find it funny that people still swing their purses at each other over a war that ended more than 150 years ago. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:58:47 PM EDT
[#16]
I guess Gen. David H. Berger hates freedom and the Constitution
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess Gen. David H. Berger hates freedom and the Constitution You don’t have civilian freedoms when serving. I’m not sure why this would be news to you. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:00:37 PM EDT
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Wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feeling
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it funny that people still swing their purses at each other over a war that ended more than 150 years ago. So edgy... Or for that matter, 80 years ago, right? Stalin’s purges, the Holodomor, the Holocaust, etc etc. Lets just forget about all of it right? Because it wouldn’t happen again, right? Right? |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:05:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I give up my guns, ammo, and regular magazines should be your state motto. As well as i love paying the king's men and being in a union, voluntarily. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? I give up my guns, ammo, and regular magazines should be your state motto. As well as i love paying the king's men and being in a union, voluntarily. Someone got triggered.  |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:06:32 PM EDT
[#21]
I am surprised it lasted this long.
IIRC Confederate flag tats were a bar to enlistment YEARS ago. They were considered racist. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Times must be good if this is what they are worried about. This |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:11:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess Gen. David H. Berger hates freedom and the Constitution Ohh, I see. You thought it was a democracy or something? |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:15:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Dicks are still good to go though.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:17:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm confused. Do we celebrate diversity or do we not? His comments seem hostile to it. We al know that “diversity “ is a one way street. As long as he bans other offensive images like the ANC flag, black panther flag, Che T-shirts and banners, Malcom X imagery, and other racist symbols, then he would be consistent—but he didn’t, did he? |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:18:06 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it funny that people still swing their purses at each other over a war that ended more than 150 years ago. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am surprised it lasted this long. IIRC Confederate flag tats were a bar to enlistment YEARS ago. They were considered racist. Seriously? Confederate flag stickers and plates were not uncommon in Ft. Bragg, NC 20 years ago. I think I even remember a black dude with one on his car (he bought the car used and never bothered to remove the sticker). |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am surprised it lasted this long. IIRC Confederate flag tats were a bar to enlistment YEARS ago. They were considered racist. EVERYTHING is considered racist, if you are of the wrong demographic |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:20:57 PM EDT
[#29]
There is something appealing to a U.S. unit raining fire down upon the enemy close enough for him to wonder what the hell the Confederate flag means.
But that would be fun and we can't have fun in war. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:21:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So edgy... Or for that matter, 80 years ago, right? Stalin's purges, the Holodomor, the Holocaust, etc etc. Lets just forget about all of it right? Because it wouldn't happen again, right? Right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it funny that people still swing their purses at each other over a war that ended more than 150 years ago. So edgy... Or for that matter, 80 years ago, right? Stalin's purges, the Holodomor, the Holocaust, etc etc. Lets just forget about all of it right? Because it wouldn't happen again, right? Right? Do you find it normal to fly the Nazi Germany flag? I don't get this retarded argument. Nobody is saying suppress the history. They're just saying you're a fool for associating with the Confederacy by flying the flag as if that is some sort of conservative, romantic, freedom inspiring move on your part. Why would you want to allow the USMC to publicly display the flag of a beaten enemy in that way? Would you have a problem with a soldier of German heritage flying the Nazi flag because it's in his family history? What about the 1940s Japanese Rising Sun flag? How about a Lebanese Marine flying a Hezbollah flag? I mean, we need to be fair and equitable in the application of the rules, right? |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:22:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously? Confederate flag stickers and plates were not uncommon in Ft. Bragg, NC 20 years ago. I think I even remember a black dude with one on his car (he bought the car used and never bothered to remove the sticker). When you in-processed at Bragg you had to strip and explain what all of your tats meant. If any were deemed as extremist linked, you would be out-processed. This was done following the 1995 murder of a couple in Fayetteville by two guys in 504 PIR (iirc) |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:22:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it equally as funny a large portion of Arfcom will bend over backwards to support the racist democrat Confederacy, and in the next breath claim to be an ultra conservative The trouble is that the meaning of a lot of that stuff has evolved and changed and people often embrace confederate symbols as being fir independence and against a large government. Being from Michigan, I don’t care about the confederate stuff, but I recognize that culture evolves |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:23:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Good.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:25:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Maybe banning pussy crybabies would work better.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:25:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you find it normal to fly the Nazi Germany flag? I don't get this retarded argument. Nobody is saying suppress the history. They're just saying you're a fool for associating with the Confederacy by flying the flag as if that is some sort of conservative, romantic, freedom inspiring move on your part. Yet everywhere I look I see communist symbology and racist black nationalist symbols. If one wants to ban something that some considers racist, fine, but be consistent and ban it all. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:26:04 PM EDT
[#36]
It's a good thing he isn't my supervisor then.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:26:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The trouble is that the meaning of a lot of that stuff has evolved and changed and people often embrace confederate symbols as being fir independence and against a large government. Being from Michigan, I don't care about the confederate stuff, but I recognize that culture evolves |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:30:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you in-processed at Bragg you had to strip and explain what all of your tats meant. If any were deemed as extremist linked, you would be out-processed. This was done following the 1995 murder of a couple in Fayetteville by two guys in 504 PIR (iirc) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seriously? Confederate flag stickers and plates were not uncommon in Ft. Bragg, NC 20 years ago. I think I even remember a black dude with one on his car (he bought the car used and never bothered to remove the sticker). When you in-processed at Bragg you had to strip and explain what all of your tats meant. If any were deemed as extremist linked, you would be out-processed. This was done following the 1995 murder of a couple in Fayetteville by two guys in 504 PIR (iirc) It's always the 504. Lots of messed up stuff. I was not aware of the 1995 events.I do remember the tattoo inspections; just don't remember the confederate flag being a "red flag." |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:30:27 PM EDT
[#39]
The confederate flag wasnt a real issue till Dylan Roof. At that point the libs decided that they were devoting lots of energy demonizing it, it was what they were going to take in place of guns, and, as they are wont to do, the conservative cuckhold contingent tucked their tail between their legs and gave the left what they wanted.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it equally as funny a large portion of Arfcom will bend over backwards to support the racist democrat Confederacy, and in the next breath claim to be an ultra conservative Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it funny that people still swing their purses at each other over a war that ended more than 150 years ago. Bingo. I’m a born and raised southerner. The mental gymnastics that some of the good ole boys use to love the confederate flag is alarming...like a democrat. The official Constitution of the Confederacy specifically addresses slavery and why it should be kept. It lessens a person. I’m fine with the flag flying at battlefields, monuments, museums....and I’m fine with the freedom of someone to fly it. I’ll laugh at someone who says it isn’t divisive. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could see that if the entire point of the Confederacy wasn't to defend slavery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The trouble is that the meaning of a lot of that stuff has evolved and changed and people often embrace confederate symbols as being fir independence and against a large government. Being from Michigan, I don't care about the confederate stuff, but I recognize that culture evolves Acktually it was about states rights! ....specifically a states right to allow ownership of people..... |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:34:19 PM EDT
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Oh NoS MuH RaCiSt. Just wait till they start banning the Betsy Ross flag and other stuff associated with the founding fathers. You people forget that the slippery slope is a real thing
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:34:51 PM EDT
[#43]
The only time I really remember a Confederate flag being displayed by a Marine was in May 2005 aboard CamLej NC: A black lifted Pickup truck with two of the flags on each side of the tailgate-end of the bed was leaving the parking lot of the Hadnot Point 7-day store onto Holcomb Blvd, driven by a very large black man that had the words "HERITAGE NOT HATE" painted on the side of the bed of the truck.
Ok I admit I was kind of baffled as in I wasn't sure what the point was, but clearly the message wasn't one of hate or exclusion. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:35:11 PM EDT
[#44]
What about a rainbow Confederate battle flag ?
Do somethin’!!! |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:38:08 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: Quoted: Why would you fly the flag of a defeated enemy? You fly it upside down Well played. Well played, indeed. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:40:16 PM EDT
[#46]
We don’t want you kids to do anything offensive.
Now grab your rifles and go have some fun! |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:41:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess Gen. David H. Berger hates freedom and the Constitution The 30th ABCT from the NCARNG came out here to conduct tank / Bradly gunnery tables a couple of years ago. One of the IDARNG idiots displayed a Confederate flag on his pickup in "solidarity" with his southern brothers from NC. The 1SG I work with went out to the working party and told the group to find whoever owned the flag to take it down. I agreed with his decision. The Confederate flag is a southern thing. Idaho isn't in the South, and the CW isn't part of our history. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:43:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dicks are still good to go though. Dicks actually get things done though |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:43:39 PM EDT
[#49]
I guess, doesn't really pass the ethical order smell test though.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:43:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo. I’m a born and raised southerner. The mental gymnastics that some of the good ole boys use to love the confederate flag is alarming...like a democrat. The official Constitution of the Confederacy specifically addresses slavery and why it should be kept. It lessens a person. I’m fine with the flag flying at battlefields, monuments, museums....and I’m fine with the freedom of someone to fly it. I’ll laugh at someone who says it isn’t divisive. Lol Not all Yankees are from NY. Slavery was one out of how many things they were pissed about? |
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