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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Columbia is such a shit hole. I would be absolutely livid with your parents. Under no circumstances will I ever allow LE into my home without a warrant. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:29:12 PM EDT
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If they said there's a three year old missing and I wasn't 100% sure they weren't in my house (i.e. I was there all the time and no door sensors beeped) I would let them check (because there's a little kid who wandered away and needs help).
If however I was home all the time and knew no-one had entered my home I would explain that so they could search more effectively elsewhere. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:30:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No exigent circumstances to enter a locked house with no one home. SPNI FPDNNI |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what is the move? Say no to an unconstitutional search just to get fucked on? 4th amendment restrains government overreach. People should monitor their own damned kids. No warrant. F you. (I'm LE) My dog won't allow strangers in. Not even cops. My gate is locked and my yard is very private. My surveillance cameras record motion. I'll gladly forward any evidence that I might discover. Watch your damned kids. (Worth repeating) |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:33:50 PM EDT
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I personally know zero cops. That means none of them are my friends or buddies. No way am I giving them consent to search my property.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:34:29 PM EDT
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You're right. Don't let PoPo into the house. Anything they see can be seized (consent to enter) or attested to for a search warrant (I saw evidence of drugs).
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:37:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Thoughts??? Your parents were asked about a missing child. This specific context is important. You probably don't have any missing children in your home, and even if you did, it's best to get the missing children out of your home. Your parents are operating under this assumption of the former, and even if it was the latter, neither you, nor they would have had anything to do with it. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:40:00 PM EDT
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So here’s how the discussion goes. mom, dad the next time there is a police officer asking to search the house looking for a missing child and I’m away at the beach I would appreciate it if you politely decline.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:40:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:43:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: The kid was found unharmed, an alleged miscommunication between the child and the parents. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:47:48 PM EDT
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No, I don't think you are wrong, but it would have been better to have had that discussion with them prior to leaving them in charge of the house. I have even told my wife, don't EVER let the police in the house without a warrant, I don't care if they say my hair is on fire upstairs...NEVER.
There is no need to be rude, disrespectful, or demeaning to the police, just tell them "NO". If they force their way in without a warrant after they were told "NO", don't fight them at the time, fight them later in court. Document everything. I would even document when they were there requesting to come in, and that I told them "NO". Documenting the contact with the police should read just like any good report....who, what, where, when, why, names, times, descriptions of whomever was there, what they said in great detail. Getting lazy on reports like that could really either help you at a later time, or bite you in the butt if you don't write it up well. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:52:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the most naive thing I’ve heard in a while. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's done is done. Don't damage your relationship with your parents, just politely tell them to never let the police in again if that is your wish. Also, notes were made of what they observed in your home, bet on it. Thats the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. This is the most naive thing I’ve heard in a while. Maybe not notes but IF they were wearing bodycams there is video of what they saw in their "search". |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:52:09 PM EDT
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did they leave you any gifts?
you know, when they come back later? |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:58:13 PM EDT
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Question to the internet hard asses in this thread...
If it was your child, how much cooperation would you appreciate from others to allow LE to systematically and quickly check off as many places as possible so resources could be directed to other areas? The failure to search a house where Jessica Lunsford was being held, supposedly unknown to two others living there while John Couey was at work, led to her death. Deputies were at the house while Jessica was being secretly held in a closet but they never conducted a search. Granted, K9 led them in that direction, but IIRC there were no indications per se Jessica was inside the trailer and the occupants told the deputies they had not seen Jessica. I'm a cop and damn sure don't want other cops in my house, but if they came knocking right now looking for a child, I'd sure as hell let them in ASAP so they could move on quickly and know they were being thorough. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you will never call 911, and you will stop the police from chasing a fleeing looter who made it into your house? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Columbia is such a shit hole. I would be absolutely livid with your parents. Under no circumstances will I ever allow LE into my home without a warrant. They're gonna need a coroner. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:58:56 PM EDT
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If I had been home, the conversation would have been:
Thanks for letting me know! We will start checking now. Give me your phone number and I'll call you once we have swept the house and property. Let it progress from there. I know my house and yard better than they do, and I can search while they do something else. It they insist on entry, then either they think I'm a suspect or the kid isn't the reason for the search. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 8:59:34 PM EDT
[#17]
I find it disheartening how much trust law enforcement had loss with its formally largest backers.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus, a working TV on top of a broken TV LOL That brings back memories. BTDT. The one on top the picture is just fine. The one on the bottom the audio is excellent. Now take a couple handfuls of mushrooms, two joints, a hit of acid and watch "The wizard of Oz" with the sound track from "Sands of Iwo Jima"! I knew a guy that would do that. I don't know which was funnier. The two TVs or watching him. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:08:48 PM EDT
[#19]
You are correct.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:10:00 PM EDT
[#20]
A kid can fit in a gun safe right, maybe they will be back with a warrant to check inside any spaces where they could fit
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it disheartening how much trust law enforcement had loss with its formally largest backers. Yeah; I wouldnt use some of the wingnut responses seen on here as a judge of that |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it disheartening how much trust law enforcement had loss with its formally largest backers. That's what you get when good apples cover up or look the other way when bad apples do bad shit. Just to clarify, I personally have nothing but good to say about the cops around here, be they city, county, or HP. As to the search for a lost child, I'd tell the cops that since I keep the doors locked even while I'm inside, there's no way in hell a lost child could have made it into my house. Since my yard isn't fenced, they could feel free to look around the yard, which would take them about 15 seconds. Anything beyond that, and they're going to need a warrant. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:31:27 PM EDT
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LOVE dogs but this is another reason we don't have one.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they asked your parents (who were lawfully occupying the property) and they gave them permission then they were invited. Personally, if the same thing were happening in my neighborhood, I would probably let them in just so they could eliminate my property as a possibility and get back to finding that kid. I am also in the habit of keeping EVERYTHING firearms related out of sight. Not so much because I am worried about cops but NOBODY needs to know what I keep in the house. This! Finally a sensible response and one that describes exactly what I would have done as well. I lock up my most expensive guns in the safe whenever I leave the house. If I ever were to have a house sitter, then I would probably also lock up the other guns that I usually leave out of the safe hidden throughout the house (for emergencies in unexpected situations) because I would not want the house sitter to accidentally come across a gun and possibly have an accident or a theft. In such a case there would be no guns or valuables, laying around that cops would be inclined to confiscate if they were allowed to enter to scratch my house off the list of possible kidnapper safe houses. I also know that if cops come wanting to search for a kidnapped child, they would not be able (even if they had a warrant) to search areas where a child could not be hidden, like desk drawers, kitchen drawers, a computer hard drive, glove box of a car, etc. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. No, the dumbest thing I've got out of this is the ending to the story about the parents having a miscommunication with a three year old. Like the kid said he/she was just going to throw a few back with the boys and will be back about 5:00 pm but when 10:00 pm rolled around and baby what ever wasn't back yet the parents began to worry.... |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 9:49:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you will never call 911, and you will stop the police from chasing a fleeing looter who made it into your house? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Columbia is such a shit hole. I would be absolutely livid with your parents. Under no circumstances will I ever allow LE into my home without a warrant. Of course he would. He'd offer sanctuary to a looter or illegal aliens if they were trying to hide from police, or ICE, if they were illegal aliens. That is obviously what he is saying. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 10:02:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So here’s how the discussion goes. mom, dad the next time there is a police officer asking to search the house looking for a missing child and I’m away at the beach I would appreciate it if you politely decline. and if pressed defend the house with suppressive fire while dad lights the burners. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 10:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawsuit. Police are forking out millions to shitbag home invaders and felons why not a law abiding citizen? 
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Posted: 6/24/2020 10:31:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Never agree to a voluntary search
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Posted: 6/24/2020 10:33:47 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's done is done. Don't damage your relationship with your parents, just politely tell them to never let the police in again if that is your wish. Also, notes were made of what they observed in your home, bet on it. Thats the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Really? You don't think they take notes? They sure as hell do in my county and then share with units (and the entire world) responding to any future calls no matter how mundane. This is just one example I've recorded. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5opism91edjzluv/dispatch.mp3?dl=0 I now know of several houses with large quantities of guns. Occasionally hear about someone with a registered machine gun. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 11:14:07 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So here’s how the discussion goes. mom, dad the next time there is a police officer asking to search the house looking for a missing child and I’m away at the beach I would appreciate it if you politely decline. All bullshit aside, I came here with this attitude, and I'll likely leave with this attitude. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 11:17:23 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They should have said no and that they would check inside and around the house. Then if they find anything they will call 911. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 11:23:05 PM EDT
[#33]
The kid was found unharmed, an alleged miscommunication between the child and the parents. WHAT!!!!???  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 11:30:48 PM EDT
[#34]
Tell them please don't let the police in to my house
Sounds good to old people let us check. Can't trust anyone today. There are good cops and bad cops. But in today's world you can't be sure who to trust. When cops want to talk to you at the station and then lie to you or try to threaten you for dirt on somebody else. My buddy was treated like that and put in jail. Long story short they had nothing at all on him he just knew the wrong person. In the end he sued the city and got $70000.00 for the bull they pulled on him. Being a cop today is not same as it was years ago. But also people have changed as well maybe that is part of the problem?. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 11:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote History"i'm running away and never coming back" *grabs a backpack, a blanket, a cup, some crayons and a coloring book and goes and hides behind the garage* *Comes back in 20 minutes later because they have to poop* |
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Posted: 6/25/2020 12:09:33 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course he would. He'd offer sanctuary to a looter or illegal aliens if they were trying to hide from police, or ICE, if they were illegal aliens. That is obviously what he is saying. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Columbia is such a shit hole. I would be absolutely livid with your parents. Under no circumstances will I ever allow LE into my home without a warrant. Of course he would. He'd offer sanctuary to a looter or illegal aliens if they were trying to hide from police, or ICE, if they were illegal aliens. That is obviously what he is saying. Is there a moron school I am unaware of? |
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Posted: 6/25/2020 12:13:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Op, you remember the girl in Cayce that went missing? The police don't take chances anymore. If you don't let them search you are suspect #1 Ridiculous |
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Posted: 6/25/2020 12:25:41 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah; I wouldnt use some of the wingnut responses seen on here as a judge of that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it disheartening how much trust law enforcement had loss with its formally largest backers. Yeah; I wouldnt use some of the wingnut responses seen on here as a judge of that Some of them have never supported cops. Then again NC may been using sarcasm. |
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Posted: 6/25/2020 12:30:39 AM EDT
[#39]
At my house, you should never let the cats out or the cops in.
I’m gonna make me a sign. |
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Posted: 6/25/2020 12:34:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At my house, you should never let the cats out or the cops in. I'm gonna make me a sign.
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