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Link Posted: 2/28/2024 9:25:10 PM EST
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Not at all

I’ll leave interpretation up to you fella’s. I’m not going to suggest they’re connected in any way, or that he isn’t stepping down due to a loved one’s death.

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i’d say he’s stepping down b/c his lock-up spells are getting more frequent
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 11:33:51 PM EST
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I (and unknown number of others) have submitted a public records access request which now has been elevated to the Attorney General for a decision on whether information can be released.  That process can take up to 45 days.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:13:42 AM EST
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They didn't release any information at all before asking for a decision?  Not even a redacted report?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:14:26 AM EST
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RIP

What an odd way to go.
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ODD being the key word.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 9:17:59 AM EST
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Sheriff's letter to Attorney General sent Thursday

"This incident was not a typical accident," the Blanco County Sheriff's Office wrote in a letter to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Thursday.

"Although the preliminary investigation indicated this was an unfortunate accident, the Sheriff's Office is still investigating this accident as a criminal matter until they have sufficient evidence to rule out criminal activity," the letter said.

Since Chao's death has remained the subject of a criminal probe, the Blanco County Sheriff's public information officer told the attorney general that reports, 911 logs, audio and video evidence as well as other material should not yet be released to media outlets that requested them, including CNBC.

"Releasing the reports, videos and other information prior to the completion of the investigation would interfere with the investigation and possible prosecution of this matter," the sheriff's office wrote.

The letter did not say that there was evidence that Chao died as the result of a crime.

But the statement that Chao's death was not "a typical accident" and the prospect raised in the letter of a prosecution marked a shift from an initial statement released days after Chao's death.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 4:08:38 PM EST
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The sheriff treating it as a criminal investigation until it is determined otherwise is completely normal. You die in your bed at 99, they are going to call it a criminal investigation until they figure out what killed you, The sheriff refusing to release any of the information described in the Houston Chronicle case is unusual since that's longstanding case law.

That's most likely because Blanco County is like 12,000 people and they don't know what they're doing (add to list of potential clients to cold call); but there are other valid reasons they might not release anything.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:25:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:37:16 PM EST
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Asian female driver...
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This.  Nothing odd about it when this is in play.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:44:16 PM EST
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Elite DC connected Harvard alumni billionaire (that is probably a chinese agent ) dies after backing a car into a lake .

I guarantee she thought she was better than us fly over country rubes that can actually back up a car and swim
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Excellently stated.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:44:53 PM EST
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When Koreans started moving here I learned that wasn’t a made up stereotype.
Had one in front of me on a state highway  just lock the brakes up and sit there. Then after I almost hit her she just started driving again
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Asian womenz are a menace behind the wheel, I'm not even trying to be a wiseass, it's just a thing...

When Koreans started moving here I learned that wasn’t a made up stereotype.
Had one in front of me on a state highway  just lock the brakes up and sit there. Then after I almost hit her she just started driving again


Commute through Troy Michigan for a couple weeks and there won't be a single doubt in your mind about how plausible this is.

Or go anywhere that has groups of Asian tourists walking around, it's like they are trying to die.  It's insane.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:45:26 PM EST
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How did she not see the pond in the giant big screen tablet in the middle of the dash?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:48:44 PM EST
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The sheriff treating it as a criminal investigation until it is determined otherwise is completely normal. You die in your bed at 99, they are going to call it a criminal investigation until they figure out what killed you, The sheriff refusing to release any of the information described in the Houston Chronicle case is unusual since that's longstanding case law.

That's most likely because Blanco County is like 12,000 people and they don't know what they're doing (add to list of potential clients to cold call); but there are other valid reasons they might not release anything.
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Or nothing about it adds up about it and they think that there’s an actual crime of murder that’s been committed.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:49:11 PM EST
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The manual release is literally one of the first things they tell you about when you buy/rent one.
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I do not own a Tesla, but i seem to recall someone in my recent past expressing safety concerns around the door release mechanism on Teslas. IIRC, they're all electronic or something with a disguised manual release or something. Is that true? If so, i could see the water intrusion shutting off the system that releases the door and panicked or ignorant person inside isn't aware of, or cannot operated the manual release.

But i may also just be misremembering the details of the release mechanism.


The manual release is literally one of the first things they tell you about when you buy/rent one.

Why not just have a normal handle that doesn't require explanation?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:53:45 PM EST
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Pretty much every politician in America is corrupt and rotten to the core.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:56:49 PM EST
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Or nothing about it adds up about it and they think that there’s an actual crime of murder that’s been committed.
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The sheriff treating it as a criminal investigation until it is determined otherwise is completely normal. You die in your bed at 99, they are going to call it a criminal investigation until they figure out what killed you, The sheriff refusing to release any of the information described in the Houston Chronicle case is unusual since that's longstanding case law.

That's most likely because Blanco County is like 12,000 people and they don't know what they're doing (add to list of potential clients to cold call); but there are other valid reasons they might not release anything.

Or nothing about it adds up about it and they think that there’s an actual crime of murder that’s been committed.


Yeah, I'm guessing "not your typical accident" means looking at the scene, and thinking that "accident" doesn't add up.

Mitch just happened to step down too...
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 8:23:05 PM EST
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Even in a murder, they typically release the public information.  Saying it is a criminal investigation still, not unusual. Not releasing any information is unusual, though I'm sure they are playing it safe given her connections.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 8:35:42 PM EST
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I doubt it. Uncle Chet drove a Tesla underwater and totaled it afterwards in a 170mph wreck.

Driving my Tesla Model S Plaid Underwater!! Does it float, sink or drive 7ft under!?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:00:30 PM EST
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Daily Mail has the location of the ranch and who owns it. So, either the sheriff released some information after all, or it was leaked. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13147075/texas-car-crash-angela-chao-death-investigated-crime.html
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:53:12 PM EST
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And Cocaine Mitch just announced his retirement….




Interdasting
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 11:14:13 AM EST
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Examples must be made.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 11:22:06 AM EST
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Always wondered if these cars can be remotely hacked. Theoretically someone could take control of the car, keep doors locked, and remotely drive it into a body of water, killing the occupant.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 6:38:16 PM EST
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Always wondered if these cars can be remotely hacked. Theoretically someone could take control of the car, keep doors locked, and remotely drive it into a body of water, killing the occupant.
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According to reports, they fished her put around 12:30am. If you're driving around a dark ranch at 11:00pm, it'd be easy enough to end up somewhere you didn't want to be.
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 9:52:48 AM EST
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Has anyone said who made the initial 911 call?????






Link Posted: 3/4/2024 10:00:31 AM EST
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I just figure an example was made, and I'm fine with more chinese spies being sacrificed.
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 10:31:16 AM EST
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Water only deep enough to barely submerge the car they were standing on it trying to open it up
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 9:46:27 PM EST
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They didn't release any information at all before asking for a decision?  Not even a redacted report?
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Nothing.  We will have to wait apparently.
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 10:15:44 PM EST
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How did she not see the pond in the giant big screen tablet in the middle of the dash?
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She might have watched it the entire time the car drove her into the pond...  dead men tell no tales I hear.
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 10:21:23 PM EST
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Member Obama chef that drowned?  I member.

Member Scalia suffocated by pillow?  I member

Member Seth rich “robbed” and killed?  I member

Member Epstein?  I member.

Member Wikileaks “wet work”?  I member
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 10:50:58 PM EST
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Daily Mail has the location of the ranch and who owns it. So, either the sheriff released some information after all, or it was leaked. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13147075/texas-car-crash-angela-chao-death-investigated-crime.html
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The address is in the fire department report that was printed on 23 February.    From Google Earth,  I see at least two ponds and maybe one behind a dam near highway 215.

I can't even see how to get to the main house area.  Plus there are multiple roads going in several directions so unless she had been there before during daylight it could be confusing.
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 10:54:05 PM EST
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Mitch getting a message
Link Posted: 3/4/2024 11:57:34 PM EST
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From her website, here is a family picture.


https://www.angelachao.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Angela-Chao-family.jpg.webp


Is it just me or is Senator Liawatha in there along with Senator Turtle?
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Link Posted: 3/9/2024 9:51:50 AM EST
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Mitch McConnell's billionaire shipping mogul sister-in-law drowned after making fatal mistake in her Tesla: Angela Chao's final moments are revealed including desperate phone call for help after partying with girlfriends on her Texas ranch

Angela Chao, a billionaire shipping industry CEO, tragically drowned in a pond at her Texas ranch after accidentally putting her Tesla in reverse

The shocking details emerged weeks after the 50-year-old's death was placed under criminal investigation

Chao was spending the Chinese New Year weekend with friends at her 900-acre ranch, made a fatal mistake while attempting a three-point turn

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Angela Chao backed her car into the largest pond in view, which abuts the guest house she and her husband referred to as 'the inn'
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Link Posted: 3/9/2024 9:56:53 AM EST
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“Chao previously served on the board of the Bank of China and as a director of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation.”


Oh well.
Link Posted: 3/9/2024 10:42:35 AM EST
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Mitch McConnell's billionaire shipping mogul sister-in-law drowned after making fatal mistake in her Tesla: Angela Chao's final moments are revealed including desperate phone call for help after partying with girlfriends on her Texas ranch

Angela Chao, a billionaire shipping industry CEO, tragically drowned in a pond at her Texas ranch after accidentally putting her Tesla in reverse

The shocking details emerged weeks after the 50-year-old's death was placed under criminal investigation

Chao was spending the Chinese New Year weekend with friends at her 900-acre ranch, made a fatal mistake while attempting a three-point turn

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That's the great thing about central Texas.  Scrape the top 6" of soil off and you've got yourself a paved limestone road.  Dig a hole in it and you've got yourself a pool.
Link Posted: 3/9/2024 10:45:37 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/9/2024 10:49:51 AM EST
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She was a human sacrifice
Link Posted: 3/9/2024 12:20:58 PM EST
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That thing wouldn't work.  Teslas have extra strong glass apparently and it was underwater which makes it very hard to strike something with force.  Even the firefighters with all their equipment couldn't get in.

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Link Posted: 3/17/2024 2:29:08 PM EST
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Useful info in this video, especially about the side windows.

Billionaire Dies After Accidentally Backing Tesla Into Pond
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:22:00 PM EST
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Is a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) level of 0.233 g/100 ml the same as when someone is said to have a BAC of 0.233?  The units "g/100 ml" are assumed?
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:27:37 PM EST
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Is a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) level of 0.233 g/100 ml the same as when someone is said to have a BAC of 0.233?  The units "g/100 ml" are assumed?
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Yes
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:32:49 PM EST
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Thanks:

From the police report:

"7. An autopsy was not performed on Chao, but a toxicology test was conducted. Chao was a blood alcohol concentration level of 0.233 g/100 mL. After reviewing all of the evidence it was determined to be a unfortunate accident."
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:37:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:38:02 PM EST
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.233 worth of bad judgements by her.
Best possible outcome, because she didn't have a chance to kill anyone else once she hit the travel way.

Jay
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:39:22 PM EST
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From the police report:

"7. An autopsy was not performed on Chao, but a toxicology test was conducted. Chao was a blood alcohol concentration level of 0.233 g/100 mL. After reviewing all of the evidence it was determined to be a unfortunate accident."
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Damn, she was drunker than a skunk.
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 4:40:29 PM EST
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.233 worth of bad judgements by her.
Best possible outcome, because she didn't have a chance to kill anyone else once she hit the travel way.

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Supposedly she was only driving a few hundred yards to get to the main house.

11. Galster provided me with a thumb drive containing the video of the exterior of the south side camera.
The video shows the following:
11:37:02pm Chao comes into view alone on the south deck wrapping herself in a blanket with her left hand and holding
her cellular phone in her right hand. Chao was dressed in the same clothes/ boots and the same item in her right
pocket as observed previously. Chao continues to walk unsteadily to her vehicle while continuing to hold her cellular
phone in her right hand.
11:37:21pm Chao enters her Tesla.
11:37:33pm tail lights come on, and blink at 10:37:35pm.
11:37:45pm the headlights turn on then back off.
11:38:01pm the headlights blink then remain on.
11:38:06pm the vehicle lurches forward toward a wooden barrier.
11:38:07 the vehicle then reverses turning to the left without stopping and over the top of the limestone block wall.
11:38:15pm vehicle enters the water.
11:39:13pm the lights from the vehicle are no longer visible.

The video from the west side camera showed the following:
11:38:02pm head lights come on.
11:38:15pm the vehicle enters the water and floats toward the center of the pond.
11:38:41pm vehicle turns with headlights facing lodge.
11:39:33pm the car turns broadside to lodge with headlights to the north.
11:41:52pm front lights are not visible, taillights still visible.
11:42:37pm front lights are visible (unknown if headlights or parking lamps).
11:43:21pm Keinan enters west camera view.

12. Chao is observed in the video to be dressed in the same, boots, leggings, and have the same blanket she was
brought to shore with. She is observed to misstep or stagger, however, it’s not known if this is because of the uneven
surface and type of shoes.
During this time no one else is observed on video entering or exiting the vehicle.
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 8:06:17 AM EST
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Report is out, her BAC was 0.33.  

Notably:
At 11:42 p.m., a friend received a call from Chao ......
The friend stayed on the phone with Chao for eight minutes, as she described water coming into the vehicle....
Just after midnight, deputies arrived at the ranch.
Once the window was broken...... pulled Chao out of the submerged vehicle. The vehicle had been in the water for approximately 21 minutes.

Boggles my mind that a bunch of people who are all filthy rich have to wait 21 minutes for a cop and a paramedic to show up to break a car's window.  
A 4500 acre ranch in texas probably has dangerous window breaking rocks laying on the ground readily available!  
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 8:15:17 AM EST
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Damn that is really drunk
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 8:21:56 AM EST
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Report is out, her BAC was 0.33.  

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Boggles my mind that a bunch of people who are all filthy rich have to wait 21 minutes for a cop and a paramedic to show up to break a car's window.  
A 4500 acre ranch in texas probably has dangerous window breaking rocks laying on the ground readily available!  
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Report is out, her BAC was 0.33.  

Notably:
At 11:42 p.m., a friend received a call from Chao ......
The friend stayed on the phone with Chao for eight minutes, as she described water coming into the vehicle....
Just after midnight, deputies arrived at the ranch.
Once the window was broken...... pulled Chao out of the submerged vehicle. The vehicle had been in the water for approximately 21 minutes.

Boggles my mind that a bunch of people who are all filthy rich have to wait 21 minutes for a cop and a paramedic to show up to break a car's window.  
A 4500 acre ranch in texas probably has dangerous window breaking rocks laying on the ground readily available!  


It's being reported as .233 in other places.  Where did you get this information?
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 8:31:36 AM EST
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If I was a billionaire I'd damn sure not ever be driving myself.

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