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Posted: 10/30/2024 5:45:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: I'm getting nervous. RCP now showing the Bitch up in Wisconsin and Michigan I think it is going to be close. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 5:48:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: Looks like the RNC is involved and contesting the 125,,428 votes https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_183842_Chrome_jpg-3363350.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Rival14: Originally Posted By kbi:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_150105_Chrome_jpg-3363102.JPG are those being tossed out or what? Looks like the RNC is involved and contesting the 125,,428 votes https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_183842_Chrome_jpg-3363350.JPG I hope that is the case. I don't have much faith in the system. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 6:08:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: I hope that is the case. I don't have much faith in the system. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Rival14: Originally Posted By kbi:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_150105_Chrome_jpg-3363102.JPG are those being tossed out or what? Looks like the RNC is involved and contesting the 125,,428 votes https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_183842_Chrome_jpg-3363350.JPG I hope that is the case. I don't have much faith in the system. How often do these "glitches" break for Republicans? |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 6:33:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911SFOREVER: How often do these "glitches" break for Republicans? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911SFOREVER: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Rival14: Originally Posted By kbi:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_150105_Chrome_jpg-3363102.JPG are those being tossed out or what? Looks like the RNC is involved and contesting the 125,,428 votes https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20241030_183842_Chrome_jpg-3363350.JPG I hope that is the case. I don't have much faith in the system. How often do these "glitches" break for Republicans? Exactly. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 7:08:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Socio]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: I think it is going to be close. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By bdy83: I'm getting nervous. RCP now showing the Bitch up in Wisconsin and Michigan I think it is going to be close. Looking like a fraud made landslide the other way: 
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Posted: 10/30/2024 7:48:37 PM EST
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:14:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi:
WA Dems, in particular King County, perfected the Steal in 2004, Gregoire v Rossi for governor. Found ballots in trunk at just the right time. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:21:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: WA Dems, in particular King County, perfected the Steal in 2004, Gregoire v Rossi for governor. Found ballots in trunk at just the right time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By kbi:
WA Dems, in particular King County, perfected the Steal in 2004, Gregoire v Rossi for governor. Found ballots in trunk at just the right time. And recounted and recounted until they got the result they wanted, then recounting was shut down for good. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:29:19 PM EST
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Another thread reporting Va & NJ may be in play. Harris is supposedly pulling $ and staff to both.https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Trump-headed-to-rally-in-garbage-truck-/5-2756791/?page=3
I hope it`s true. If it is, Harris is in serious trouble. Both of these states were supposed to be a lock for the Dems. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:37:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arbob: Another thread reporting Va & NJ may be in play. Harris is supposedly pulling $ and staff to both.https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Trump-headed-to-rally-in-garbage-truck-/5-2756791/?page=3 I hope it`s true. If it is, Harris is in serious trouble. Both of these states were supposed to be a lock for the Dems. VA maybe, but I doubt NJ is in play. But it will be closer then they'd like perhaps. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:52:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: VA maybe, but I doubt NJ is in play. But it will be closer then they'd like perhaps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By arbob: Another thread reporting Va & NJ may be in play. Harris is supposedly pulling $ and staff to both.https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Trump-headed-to-rally-in-garbage-truck-/5-2756791/?page=3 I hope it`s true. If it is, Harris is in serious trouble. Both of these states were supposed to be a lock for the Dems. VA maybe, but I doubt NJ is in play. But it will be closer then they'd like perhaps. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:58:11 PM EST
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Now bet some pmags on it ;)
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:02:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: Va is not in play. It will be alot closer than '20. Maybe she wins by 2%. Considering Va has been safe blue since 2008, im sure that scares the shit out of her campaign. I'm more hopeful than I've been in years... but I'm always ready to be disappointed.  |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:04:45 PM EST
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:05:16 PM EST
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:05:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Snozberry: Now bet some pmags on it ;)  Ill dance a fucking jig if trump wins va.
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:06:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: bad2006z71]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rogue7: I'm not sure I agree. The Youngkin, Sears and Miyares sweep was a huge upset, but I don't know if that signals any kind of sea-change or not. I'm more hopeful than I've been in years... but I'm always ready to be disappointed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rogue7: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Va is not in play. It will be alot closer than '20. Maybe she wins by 2%. Considering Va has been safe blue since 2008, im sure that scares the shit out of her campaign. I'm more hopeful than I've been in years... but I'm always ready to be disappointed. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:29:30 PM EST
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No offense to OP, this is the best election thread:
We are too close to the election for polling to matter historically. It is impossible to do a statistically meaningful, useful, poll at this point. Go vote, drag your like minded friends to vote, even if you're not in a swing state. Popular vote percentages may matter. Above all, don't panic after you vote. I believe Trump is going to win, but it is all in the margin of error/uncertainty budget.  If he doesn't, we get 4 more years of the same. That's not great, and we need to encourage Clarence Thomas to exercise and get the best diet and medical care. It will suck, but will not be the end of the world. I survived 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, and 4 years of Biden. Go vote, and MAKE your friends vote. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:46:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: No offense to OP, this is the best election thread: We are too close to the election for polling to matter historically. It is impossible to do a statistically meaningful, useful, poll at this point. Go vote, drag your like minded friends to vote, even if you're not in a swing state. Popular vote percentages may matter. Above all, don't panic after you vote. I believe Trump is going to win, but it is all in the margin of error/uncertainty budget. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187397/hold-fast-tattoo-meaning-64e5b2b480d55-3363569.jpg If he doesn't, we get 4 more years of the same. That's not great, and we need to encourage Clarence Thomas to exercise and get the best diet and medical care. It will suck, but will not be the end of the world. I survived 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, and 4 years of Biden. Go vote, and MAKE your friends vote. The problem is the combined damage of all those ( and Bush, and others previous ) is why we got where we did today. Yeah we'd survive Kamala, sort of but in the long run we won't. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:54:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pale_pony: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27704/Joker_jpg-3344678.JPG   
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:56:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again. There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too. I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent. I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. 
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Posted: 10/30/2024 9:58:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Primecube: I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Primecube: Originally Posted By macman37: I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again. There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too. I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent. I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. I don't escipially after roe v wade. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 11:29:47 PM EST
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 The SHOCKING 2024 Election Map Based On RESULTS So Far! |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 11:37:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rogue7: I'm not sure I agree. The Youngkin, Sears and Miyares sweep was a huge upset, but I don't know if that signals any kind of sea-change or not. I'm more hopeful than I've been in years... but I'm always ready to be disappointed. Then, we lost both sides of the state legislature in 2022. I hate to be a Negative Nancy, but that's the truth. From a supermajority to a loss in less than 10 years due to redistricting. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 11:43:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: WA Dems, in particular King County, perfected the Steal in 2004, Gregoire v Rossi for governor. Found ballots in trunk at just the right time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By kbi:
WA Dems, in particular King County, perfected the Steal in 2004, Gregoire v Rossi for governor. Found ballots in trunk at just the right time. Third count. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 12:56:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Third count. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By kbi:
WA Dems, in particular King County, perfected the Steal in 2004, Gregoire v Rossi for governor. Found ballots in trunk at just the right time. Third count. Keep recounting until you win and then shut it off from further scrutiny. That;s democracy 
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:18:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Primecube: I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. Federal and state elections bring out a very different electorate. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is. Gun people on this site tend to be more attuned to what's happening at the state level because we have a direct stake in it, but normies do not. That's a critical reason why state and federal elections turn out so differently. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:21:16 AM EST
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Clark is the biggest population center in Nevada and it's where democrat victories in the state come from. Meaning without a significant margin in the county, the state is unlikely to go blue. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:25:18 AM EST
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A key difference in this election seems so far to be that Republican leaning low propensity voters are showing up in droves. Meanwhile Democrat leaning ones are sitting it out. FWIW, this is how Obama won in 2012. Lots of people faced with the offering of Romney said "I'll sit this one out." |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:28:08 AM EST
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This is an important data point. If it proves true on election day it means that the fundamentals trump vagina campaigning. The democrats have bet everything on identity politics. The problem for them is that the majority of the nation...a sizable majority...doesn't believe in that stuff. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:33:24 AM EST
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:37:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777:
A key difference in this election seems so far to be that Republican leaning low propensity voters are showing up in droves. Meanwhile Democrat leaning ones are sitting it out. FWIW, this is how Obama won in 2012. Lots of people faced with the offering of Romney said "I'll sit this one out." I've said this from the beginning, Biden barely beat Trump. Trump has gained support while Kamala has pushed many supporters away. This election won't be close. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:38:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: sh768]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777:
This is an important data point. If it proves true on election day it means that the fundamentals trump vagina campaigning. The democrats have bet everything on identity politics. The problem for them is that the majority of the nation...a sizable majority...doesn't believe in that stuff. Please don't use "trump" as a verb- I had to read that sentence 5 times. I guess we're sitting in a good spot, assuming there's no unexpected dump of mail in ballots- but that shouldn't happen, since last time was an anomaly w/ Covid (?) |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:55:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sh768: Please don't use "trump" as a verb- I had to read that sentence 5 times. I guess we're sitting in a good spot, assuming there's no unexpected dump of mail in ballots- but that shouldn't happen, since last time was an anomaly w/ Covid (?) There’s always a “dump” of mail in ballots. Because many states don’t count them until after the in person count is completed. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 9:56:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sh768: Please don't use "trump" as a verb- I had to read that sentence 5 times. I guess we're sitting in a good spot, assuming there's no unexpected dump of mail in ballots- but that shouldn't happen, since last time was an anomaly w/ Covid (?) Things have to be close for the cheat to be viable. If it's not viable, you won't see the cheat happen because it's all risk and no reward. And everybody is watching this election like a hawk. Trump and the GOP have been in court multiple times already suing over attempted shenanigans. Bucks County is a good example of the kind of proactive legal strategy present this time that wasn't around in 2020. It has to be within a percent for the cheat to be viable. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:00:37 AM EST
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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:19:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: I don't escipially after roe v wade. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By Primecube: Originally Posted By macman37: I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again. There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too. I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent. I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. I don't escipially after roe v wade. I hope you all take a second to read this carefully and deep-process it: Gretch got initially voted into office based on Michigan's legendarily horrible roads. Her whole campaign was "Fix the damn roads!" (not paraphrasing; that was literally her campaign slogan). She proceeded to suck for four years - didn't fix the damn roads - and in fact utterly F'd up with putting covid cases in with old people and her disastrous reaction to the Midland, MI flooding. ...So when Roe V. Wade conveniently came out after decades of Stare Decisis, timed perfectly before the election (I am anti-abortion; but the timing of RvW overturning is entirely too perfect) so the MI election became literally a one-topic debate (oh, and MI's open primaries meant the lefties crossed the party lines and voted for the Republican candidate they knew they could beat - and did. That's why MI is where it is right now. I think we're being punished for flipping for Trump in '16 and so far nobody has been able to change my mind. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:30:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777:
A key difference in this election seems so far to be that Republican leaning low propensity voters are showing up in droves. Meanwhile Democrat leaning ones are sitting it out. FWIW, this is how Obama won in 2012. Lots of people faced with the offering of Romney said "I'll sit this one out." @John_Wayne777 What is the 4 of 4, 3 of 3, etc? Is this the number of consecutive presidential elections people have voted in? Consecutive general/state elections? |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:32:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: She under performed as gubernatorial candidate didnt she? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By John_Wayne777: Upon further review and finding out how accurate this pollster was in prior elections in AZ, I now believe this margin. she was +11% on the morning of the election, but her opponent was the person counting the votes. the AZ gope hates her so they looked the other way |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 11:24:04 AM EST
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Posted: 10/31/2024 11:31:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: wyomingnick]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: I hope you all take a second to read this carefully and deep-process it: Gretch got initially voted into office based on Michigan's legendarily horrible roads. Her whole campaign was "Fix the damn roads!" (not paraphrasing; that was literally her campaign slogan). She proceeded to suck for four years - didn't fix the damn roads - and in fact utterly F'd up with putting covid cases in with old people and her disastrous reaction to the Midland, MI flooding. ...So when Roe V. Wade conveniently came out after decades of Stare Decisis, timed perfectly before the election (I am anti-abortion; but the timing of RvW overturning is entirely too perfect) so the MI election became literally a one-topic debate (oh, and MI's open primaries meant the lefties crossed the party lines and voted for the Republican candidate they knew they could beat - and did. That's why MI is where it is right now. I think we're being punished for flipping for Trump in '16 and so far nobody has been able to change my mind. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By Primecube: Originally Posted By macman37: I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again. There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too. I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent. I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. I don't escipially after roe v wade. I hope you all take a second to read this carefully and deep-process it: Gretch got initially voted into office based on Michigan's legendarily horrible roads. Her whole campaign was "Fix the damn roads!" (not paraphrasing; that was literally her campaign slogan). She proceeded to suck for four years - didn't fix the damn roads - and in fact utterly F'd up with putting covid cases in with old people and her disastrous reaction to the Midland, MI flooding. ...So when Roe V. Wade conveniently came out after decades of Stare Decisis, timed perfectly before the election (I am anti-abortion; but the timing of RvW overturning is entirely too perfect) so the MI election became literally a one-topic debate (oh, and MI's open primaries meant the lefties crossed the party lines and voted for the Republican candidate they knew they could beat - and did. That's why MI is where it is right now. I think we're being punished for flipping for Trump in '16 and so far nobody has been able to change my mind. I think that sounds pretty close to the truth. I'm not sure Tudor Dixon would have won even without roe vs wade but it would have been much closer. The spread between Whitmer and Dixon was pretty big. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 12:23:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: I've said this from the beginning, Biden barely beat Trump. Trump has gained support while Kamala has pushed many supporters away. This election won't be close. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
A key difference in this election seems so far to be that Republican leaning low propensity voters are showing up in droves. Meanwhile Democrat leaning ones are sitting it out. FWIW, this is how Obama won in 2012. Lots of people faced with the offering of Romney said "I'll sit this one out." I've said this from the beginning, Biden barely beat Trump. Trump has gained support while Kamala has pushed many supporters away. This election won't be close. From your lips to God's ears man. Glad that we don't live in Venezuela quite yet. Lots of good signs in the last couple of pages. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 12:30:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi:
They've been running fake ballots through apartment buildings for decades. In the past, they would post someone as a worker in the front office, where they could intercept the mail. Register residents and fictitious people, apply for ballots and vote on their behalf without the residents getting any notification. My vote got intercepted in Arlington VA for the 2000 election this way. The office worker was a friend of my girlfriend at the time, and drunkenly confessed the scheme a few weeks later. Let's just say that wasn't my finest example of conflict resolution. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 1:23:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrapos: @John_Wayne777 What is the 4 of 4, 3 of 3, etc? Is this the number of consecutive presidential elections people have voted in? Consecutive general/state elections? How many presidential elections they've voted in out of the last 4. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 1:30:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Primecube: I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Primecube: Originally Posted By macman37: I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again. There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too. I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent. I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. Dixon was a terrible candidate but DeVoss got Trump to endorse her. Then you add the fact that the Republicans painted themselves into a corner over COVID and we had a situation where no one was attacking Whitless where she was weakest while Dixon got hammered for her stance on abortion. The MI GOP is completely incompetent. They're masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 1:41:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: I hope you all take a second to read this carefully and deep-process it: Gretch got initially voted into office based on Michigan's legendarily horrible roads. Her whole campaign was "Fix the damn roads!" (not paraphrasing; that was literally her campaign slogan). She proceeded to suck for four years - didn't fix the damn roads - and in fact utterly F'd up with putting covid cases in with old people and her disastrous reaction to the Midland, MI flooding. ...So when Roe V. Wade conveniently came out after decades of Stare Decisis, timed perfectly before the election (I am anti-abortion; but the timing of RvW overturning is entirely too perfect) so the MI election became literally a one-topic debate (oh, and MI's open primaries meant the lefties crossed the party lines and voted for the Republican candidate they knew they could beat - and did. That's why MI is where it is right now. I think we're being punished for flipping for Trump in '16 and so far nobody has been able to change my mind. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By Primecube: Originally Posted By macman37: I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again. There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too. I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent. I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen. I don't escipially after roe v wade. I hope you all take a second to read this carefully and deep-process it: Gretch got initially voted into office based on Michigan's legendarily horrible roads. Her whole campaign was "Fix the damn roads!" (not paraphrasing; that was literally her campaign slogan). She proceeded to suck for four years - didn't fix the damn roads - and in fact utterly F'd up with putting covid cases in with old people and her disastrous reaction to the Midland, MI flooding. ...So when Roe V. Wade conveniently came out after decades of Stare Decisis, timed perfectly before the election (I am anti-abortion; but the timing of RvW overturning is entirely too perfect) so the MI election became literally a one-topic debate (oh, and MI's open primaries meant the lefties crossed the party lines and voted for the Republican candidate they knew they could beat - and did. That's why MI is where it is right now. I think we're being punished for flipping for Trump in '16 and so far nobody has been able to change my mind. Most of that is spot on. My only question is how much evidence of dems actually voting for Dixon in the primary is there? Trump endorsed her too, how does that blame her spread around? Mike Rogers is getting the same "no exceptions" treatment now too. This is the wrong state for that stance. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 1:47:55 PM EST
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Remember, Biden lost in 2020 by large margin. Don't be surprised if it happens again this time. Remember, they are in charge, they are in control. Thats what commies do and they don't change how they do things.
Still, get out and vote, and get other to vote as well. The more that vote, know others that do can hopefully understand how corrupt it really is. I am praying it doesn't happen that way, but the people who did it the first time are still there so.. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 2:14:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: From your lips to God's ears man. Glad that we don't live in Venezuela quite yet. Lots of good signs in the last couple of pages. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
A key difference in this election seems so far to be that Republican leaning low propensity voters are showing up in droves. Meanwhile Democrat leaning ones are sitting it out. FWIW, this is how Obama won in 2012. Lots of people faced with the offering of Romney said "I'll sit this one out." I've said this from the beginning, Biden barely beat Trump. Trump has gained support while Kamala has pushed many supporters away. This election won't be close. From your lips to God's ears man. Glad that we don't live in Venezuela quite yet. Lots of good signs in the last couple of pages. Keep in mind, Venezuela is coming to us. (and Ecuador, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.) The crime rate in Venezuela already went down significantly, because so many of their criminals went to the US. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 3:51:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: How many presidential elections they've voted in out of the last 4. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By Andrapos: @John_Wayne777 What is the 4 of 4, 3 of 3, etc? Is this the number of consecutive presidential elections people have voted in? Consecutive general/state elections? How many presidential elections they've voted in out of the last 4. Thank you |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:22:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: Firearmsenthusiast]
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@John_Wayne777
Any updates with early voting in full swing? Hearing a lot of conflicting reports from GOP folks I know in this state about Mi, Pa, Wi, etc. |
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