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Link Posted: 11/1/2024 6:27:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BRS1912:
Remember, Biden lost in 2020 by large margin.
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That's not remotely true. Biden was very close with Trump in several states. That's the only way they could "fortify" the election.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:06:15 AM EST
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The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:31:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Firearmsenthusiast:
@John_Wayne777

Any updates with early voting in full swing?  Hearing a lot of conflicting reports from GOP folks I know in this state about Mi, Pa, Wi, etc.
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There's a lot of nonsense out there.

Here's the bottom line:

Kameltoe has lost ground with every identifiable voter group from where Biden was in 2020.

Mail-in and early voting tallies so far show significantly lower democrat participation than 2020, while new voters and low propensity voters doing mail-in and in person early voting are trending Republican.

Biden eeked out a victory in 2020 because the mass mail-in ballot drive in multiple states put him up by six or seven digits. In PA, for example, he had a lead of over one million mail-in ballots before election day.

That's not happening this time, and it's why Kameltoe's goose is cooked.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:35:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.
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It would be worrisome if one did not realize that the rust belt states poll to the left of where they vote. And that they almost always vote the same way.

A bunch of the polls you'll see are copium with ridiculous assumptions built into them, like there being a D+7 electorate. That's not remotely the case this time around.

Trump is going to win PA by 4-5 points. Which means he will also most likely pull out a victory in Wisconsin and Michigan as well, although with a narrower margin there.

I don't think he'll snag MN, but he will be very close.

He's going to win Arizona by more than 5 points...which means Kari Lake is likely to win and now you can still get good odds on her race if you're into betting.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:54:42 AM EST
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My thoughts: there has been a question about polls and ‘the shy Trump voter’.  I think that phenomenon was mostly gone, but with the rhetoric ramping up I think it’s come back strong in the past week especially among women.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:56:52 AM EST
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The RCP betting odds are tightening but Trump is still showing a 60.6% chance to Harris' 38.1%.  I wonder what's moving those numbers?  

I agree with John_Wayne777 that her goose is already cooked. If the early vote numbers in NV and AZ show national trend, Trump should cruise.  However, just go vote.  Vote early if you can.  Take someone to go vote with you.  


Look to VA on election night.  Polls close at 7pm ET and even if Trump doesn't win, if it's close, it could show a national trend.  If it's too close to call by 10pm in VA, look out!
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:08:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
The RCP betting odds are tightening but Trump is still showing a 60.6% chance to Harris' 38.1%.  I wonder what's moving those numbers?  

I agree with John_Wayne777 that her goose is already cooked. If the early vote numbers in NV and AZ show national trend, Trump should cruise.  However, just go vote.  Vote early if you can.  Take someone to go vote with you.  


Look to VA on election night.  Polls close at 7pm ET and even if Trump doesn't win, if it's close, it could show a national trend.  If it's too close to call by 10pm in VA, look out!
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If Trump is up 8%+ in Va all night until NOVA reports, I'd say Trump has won Va, and the election.
6.5-8%, I'd be sweating bullets if I was Cumlala.
6.5% or Below, Cumlala wins Va, but not necessarily the election.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:21:00 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:27:25 AM EST
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You sir need to stop getting my hopes up about a GOP win in Va. My dick can only get so hard.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 10:49:04 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/1/2024 11:49:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71:

You sir need to stop getting my hopes up about a GOP win in Va. My dick can only get so hard.
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I think a win in VA is a stretch. But it's going to be close.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 11:57:27 AM EST
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I don't look at polls much, but have been looking at this: 270 to win polls

I screenshot it a few days back and almost all of the swing states have moved towards KH. If it proves true and Trump wins PA NV GA NC and AZ then it is an easy win.

I like OP's enthusiasm but not counting my chickens votes yet.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 11:57:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:


I think a win in VA is a stretch. But it's going to be close.
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71:

You sir need to stop getting my hopes up about a GOP win in Va. My dick can only get so hard.


I think a win in VA is a stretch. But it's going to be close.

I agree. I think it's a 2-3% win for Cumlala, but Kaine's win will be higher, sadly.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 12:05:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.
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I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 12:08:25 PM EST
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I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.


Agreed,

However we have a lot of voters on here who are waiting due to unfounded fears their ballot will be lost before Election Day or just downright stubbornness.

Unfortunately a few will have “life happen” on Election Day and won’t make it to the polls.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 2:14:22 PM EST
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Kamela is buying a lot of ads here in CT of all places. They are all over television.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 2:47:31 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/1/2024 2:48:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Andrapos:


She probably needs to spend the money to empty the war chest, help down ballot dems, and curry favor.   I sincerely doubt that our wonderful state has any chance of turning red this election.
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Kamela is buying a lot of ads here in CT of all places. They are all over television.


She probably needs to spend the money to empty the war chest, help down ballot dems, and curry favor.   I sincerely doubt that our wonderful state has any chance of turning red this election.

This. Trying to get as many votes down ballot as possible.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 3:04:41 PM EST
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Me watching the election unfold:

Airplane! (1980) "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit..."
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 3:26:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:


Agreed,

However we have a lot of voters on here who are waiting due to unfounded fears their ballot will be lost before Election Day or just downright stubbornness.

Unfortunately a few will have “life happen” on Election Day and won’t make it to the polls.
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:
Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.


Agreed,

However we have a lot of voters on here who are waiting due to unfounded fears their ballot will be lost before Election Day or just downright stubbornness.

Unfortunately a few will have “life happen” on Election Day and won’t make it to the polls.


Your post made me reconsider and the wife an I just early voted for the first time today.

Link Posted: 11/1/2024 6:02:36 PM EST
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Your post made me reconsider and the wife an I just early voted for the first time today.

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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:
Originally Posted By CTYC313:
Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.


Agreed,

However we have a lot of voters on here who are waiting due to unfounded fears their ballot will be lost before Election Day or just downright stubbornness.

Unfortunately a few will have “life happen” on Election Day and won’t make it to the polls.


Your post made me reconsider and the wife an I just early voted for the first time today.




That's what I'm talking about!  Good for you, sq40.  Vote early!  Encourage others to vote early!  Republicans are motivated this cycle and some people sitting on the couch might not need that much convincing to get up and vote for Trump!
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:30:16 PM EST
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Saw an article on Faux news where roanoke college released a poll where cumalala is 10 points ahead in Va. I dont think its anywhere near that. 2-4% is more likely.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:58:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.


Not everyone has the time. I expect Tuesday (when I’ll likely be able to vote) to be busy.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:00:57 PM EST
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What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:14:58 PM EST
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What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

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Down to 57%now.   10%down in 4 days
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:23:17 PM EST
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What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

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The steal is on?
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:24:15 PM EST
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The steal is on?
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probably
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:24:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

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Don't know, but Polymarket is not open to Americans.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/meet-theo-the-man-who-bet-30-million-on-trump-winning-the-election/
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:29:58 PM EST
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Betting markets are shifting cause folks probably see value at Kamala being down. This also means you can get Trump at a value now

Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:30:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

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I think there's fuckery going on, but the angle would require losing money, so maybe not.

Here too, Trump is dropping precipitously in the last few days. /scratches head/

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:35:32 PM EST
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Your post made me reconsider and the wife an I just early voted for the first time today.

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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:
Originally Posted By CTYC313:
Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.


Agreed,

However we have a lot of voters on here who are waiting due to unfounded fears their ballot will be lost before Election Day or just downright stubbornness.

Unfortunately a few will have “life happen” on Election Day and won’t make it to the polls.


Your post made me reconsider and the wife an I just early voted for the first time today.




I early voted for the first time yesterday.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 8:36:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

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Polymarket was distorted by a handful of people putting serious money on DJT. It's drifting back to closer in line with polls and pundits since.

Polymarket is massive compared to other betting markets, and you end up getting arbitrage plays when other markets lag.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 9:38:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:


Dixon was a terrible candidate but DeVoss got Trump to endorse her. Then you add the fact that the Republicans painted themselves into a corner over COVID and we had a situation where no one was attacking Whitless where she was weakest while Dixon got hammered for her stance on abortion.

The MI GOP is completely incompetent. They're masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
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I seriously would not be surprised if Trump took MI again.

There is just no energy here at all for Dems in general, Harris in particular. They are spamming the hell out of us with ads and I still don’t see any enthusiasm. The best they can do - and this is pathetic - is the huge series of “I was a Trump voter and now I’m voting for Kamala” ads that I’m sure you’re all seeing too.

I know, anecdotal and all. But it’s like they’re deliberately keeping quiet. We’re a month out from the election and even Whitler is freaking silent.


I find it tough to believe Voters were Retarded enough to Vote for Gretchen.


Dixon was a terrible candidate but DeVoss got Trump to endorse her. Then you add the fact that the Republicans painted themselves into a corner over COVID and we had a situation where no one was attacking Whitless where she was weakest while Dixon got hammered for her stance on abortion.

The MI GOP is completely incompetent. They're masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
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Unfortunately that is actually most states.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 9:40:06 PM EST
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The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.
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It should do the opposite. Its obviously close so if she is ahead, then get out and vote !
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 10:43:30 PM EST
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Not everyone has the time. I expect Tuesday (when I’ll likely be able to vote) to be busy.
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:
Originally Posted By laxman09:
The "polls" are now rolling out saying FKH is up in Michigan, Wisconsin and PA. I don't believe them for shit but it's right on cue to tamp down Trump enthusiasm.


I'm not surprised by Michigan. The state GOP has been shooting itself in the foot for the better part of a decade. Trump endorsed Dixon who was a terrible candidate and Rogers is actually behind Slotkin in what should be an easy victory. I can't even drive to work without hearing ten commercials about "no exceptions".

As for Trump enthusiasm, anyone enthusiastic should have already voted here. We have mail in and early in person. There's no reason to wait unless you're still on the fence.


Not everyone has the time. I expect Tuesday (when I’ll likely be able to vote) to be busy.

That's why we do "mail in" and drop off at the box in the civic center. Early voting was a zoo when I went to the library on Monday, an hour wait at 12:45. Considering where I live, that's a very bad sign for us. Voting straight ticket R mean you don't vote for any of the local partisan offices.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 11:16:15 PM EST
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Good lord, y'all are worse than the Jews at Mount Sinai, put away your wood and jewelry and don't start building the Golden Calf yet.  

The shift is due to the Marist poll that came out today for a few of the swing states.  It's shitty liberal poll with at best questionable results, and it's so far out in left field from what the reliable polls are saying that I would take it with a very large grain of salt.  

I'm also guessing that a lot of the Poly movement is early investors selling off at a profit. They might buy back in as things get closer.  

Vote, sit tight, and enjoy the ride... going crazy about it will do you no good.  
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 11:16:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:

That's why we do "mail in" and drop off at the box in the civic center. Early voting was a zoo when I went to the library on Monday, an hour wait at 12:45. Considering where I live, that's a very bad sign for us. Voting straight ticket R mean you don't vote for any of the local partisan offices.
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Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 12:36:56 AM EST
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Which democrat do you suggest we vote for?
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 6:50:37 AM EST
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Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don't vote straight ticket.
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:

That's why we do "mail in" and drop off at the box in the civic center. Early voting was a zoo when I went to the library on Monday, an hour wait at 12:45. Considering where I live, that's a very bad sign for us. Voting straight ticket R mean you don't vote for any of the local partisan offices.


Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don't vote straight ticket.
I dont vote democrat or the democrats running as independents. I even voted for the swamp donkey trump endorsed and beat the better candidate bob good because democrat is never the answer.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 8:11:35 AM EST
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Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:

That's why we do "mail in" and drop off at the box in the civic center. Early voting was a zoo when I went to the library on Monday, an hour wait at 12:45. Considering where I live, that's a very bad sign for us. Voting straight ticket R mean you don't vote for any of the local partisan offices.


Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.

Ah the truth starts to leak out.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 8:28:09 AM EST
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I think there's fuckery going on, but the angle would require losing money, so maybe not.

Here too, Trump is dropping precipitously in the last few days. /scratches head/

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
What's behind the recent shift in the betting markets?

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I think there's fuckery going on, but the angle would require losing money, so maybe not.

Here too, Trump is dropping precipitously in the last few days. /scratches head/

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election


These are betting markets. They tend to clench up and get more conservative the closer we get, no?
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I don't even have that option anymore in east NC. I think I used to way back.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 9:06:01 AM EST
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Which democrat do you suggest we vote for?
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Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.


Which democrat do you suggest we vote for?


None. But straight ticket ballots are more likely to be scanned as no votes cast than if you take the time to actually vote for the Republican in every race.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 9:08:02 AM EST
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I dont vote democrat or the democrats running as independents. I even voted for the swamp donkey trump endorsed and beat the better candidate bob good because democrat is never the answer.
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Originally Posted By CTYC313:

That's why we do "mail in" and drop off at the box in the civic center. Early voting was a zoo when I went to the library on Monday, an hour wait at 12:45. Considering where I live, that's a very bad sign for us. Voting straight ticket R mean you don't vote for any of the local partisan offices.


Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don't vote straight ticket.
I dont vote democrat or the democrats running as independents. I even voted for the swamp donkey trump endorsed and beat the better candidate bob good because democrat is never the answer.


I’m
Not saying don’t vote for every Republican on the ballot. I’m saying take the time to actually vote for every Republican rather than simply filling in the single straight ticket bubble option. Even the Michigan Secretary of State admitted that can result in a no vote cast with the ballot scanners
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 9:19:53 AM EST
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I found this interesting Washington Examiner article that shows how every Republican Presidential nominee except one (Mittens in 2012) have over performed the polls.  

In 2004, W. had a polling average lead of 1.5 but he won by 2.4 points.  He overperformed by 0.9pts.

2008 McCain overperformed by 0.3pts.
2012 Romney is an idiot.
2016 Trump overperformed by 1.1pts.
2020 Trump overperformed by 2.7pts.

There's a trend here.  I'm skeptical that pollsters have "fixed" the shy Trump voter problem somehow.  Some are claiming that the polls are underestimating Harris, but that's pure nonsense.  Even as the betting odds get tighter, I'm remaining optimistic.  
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I wonder if / how gender plays a role.  For instance, if you were asked/polled by a man if you were supporting Harris, would you as easily admit it as you would to a woman?  And vice-versa.
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I wonder if / how gender plays a role.  For instance, if you were asked/polled by a man if you were supporting Harris, would you as easily admit it as you would to a woman?  And vice-versa.
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It certainly does.  I remember the disastrous exit polling for Bush V Kerry.  Many exit pollsters were women that asked women how they voted.  I think this illustrates how gender bias can be cooked in.
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Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.
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That's why we do "mail in" and drop off at the box in the civic center. Early voting was a zoo when I went to the library on Monday, an hour wait at 12:45. Considering where I live, that's a very bad sign for us. Voting straight ticket R mean you don't vote for any of the local partisan offices.


Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.

That wasn't the point. I'm pointing out that there aren't even any Republicans in most races. We can't vote straight ticket since some Dems are less terrible than others in the local races.

But I'll bite, what's wrong with straight ticket voting if it still puts in votes for the same individual candidates?
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I don't even have that option anymore in east NC. I think I used to way back.
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Straight ticket is lazy. Even if you vote R in every race don’t vote straight ticket.

I don't even have that option anymore in east NC. I think I used to way back.

We didn't have a box for straight ticket on our paper ballots this year, either. First time I can recall not having that option
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