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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:51:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't Japanese construction notoriously poor? yes it is primarily pre-fabricated type -- designed to last 25-30-ish years. many articles online discuss this 'disposable housing' phenomenon. of course you have the value of the land. but your typical home in japan is not built to last 75+ years like here in the USA |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:51:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: sit down for a sad tale. Many years back, my family left the hills of Kentucky to chase Pancho Villa out of Arizona. My great-and-change-grandpa met a senorita down near Tubac and decided to stay. Time passed, and my pathetic ass got chased out because too many tech-bros from San Fuckyourself, California bought houses and I couldn't afford it. Back to the hills of Kentucky for me, until the next horse-pirate lowers property values enough for me to go back. You and I are prolly gonna be sharing the same ending. Though my family didn’t come here for Pancho Villa, just to settle out here. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:52:11 AM EDT
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It's fascinating. From my limited understanding, it's difficult and expensive to renovate homes in Japan, so most people don't bother. The gov't doesn't seem to care about the problem, but they don't turn into crack houses like in the USA.
And it's crazy how quickly homes deteriorate in that climate. Built in 1989, Abandoned in 2014? Wow. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:52:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You and I are prolly gonna be sharing the same ending. Though my family didn't come here for Pancho Villa, just to settle out here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: sit down for a sad tale. Many years back, my family left the hills of Kentucky to chase Pancho Villa out of Arizona. My great-and-change-grandpa met a senorita down near Tubac and decided to stay. Time passed, and my pathetic ass got chased out because too many tech-bros from San Fuckyourself, California bought houses and I couldn't afford it. Back to the hills of Kentucky for me, until the next horse-pirate lowers property values enough for me to go back. You and I are prolly gonna be sharing the same ending. Though my family didn't come here for Pancho Villa, just to settle out here. roomies in Japan? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:52:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tokyo still fond of wood structures I see. Earthquakes yo. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:52:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: elite sumo class   MA! MOVIN' TO JAPAN!! MA!!! DO THEY HAVE DINO TENDIES IN JAPAN?!!!! MA!! |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:53:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think Japan is very big about letting non Japanese move into their country and they are smart for being that way. Then they had better start having babies. God isn't making anymore land, at some point someone will move into the Japanese islands once there aren't enough Japanese to stop them. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:53:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. I like where I'm at and I don't want Gojirra to be flattening my home. Don't worry about Godzilla. Worry about Democrats in your state giving your home to Juan and Juanita. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:53:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't Japanese construction notoriously poor? Why put too much money and effort in if it's just going to get knocked down by the next earthquake / typhoon / tidal wave / kaiju ? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:53:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/obese-american-man-with-shirt-tight-around-his-belly-walks-smiling-with-soda-his-hand-ai-generated_47726-11782.jpg MA! MOVIN' TO JAPAN!! MA!!! DO THEY HAVE DINO TENDIES IN JAPAN?!!!! MA!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: elite sumo class https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/obese-american-man-with-shirt-tight-around-his-belly-walks-smiling-with-soda-his-hand-ai-generated_47726-11782.jpg MA! MOVIN' TO JAPAN!! MA!!! DO THEY HAVE DINO TENDIES IN JAPAN?!!!! MA!! Even better. Karaage |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:54:46 AM EDT
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Better gun rights and I'm single.....gone
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:56:51 AM EDT
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Kei trucks, Japanese carpentry, and skinny Asian chicks. 24 year old me would have already been on a plane. Pretty sure my Mexican wife would track me across the globe to murder me if I left her with all these kids though, so I’ll leave this adventure for your young guns.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:57:16 AM EDT
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 How We Bought Our Abandoned House in Japan | Process, Costs, Risks, Finance, How to Find One |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:59:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: roomies in Japan? Bet, we’ll have weekly sushi and sake nights with JLP3 |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:59:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing that said 25K houses are not in Japan's version of The Hamptons. I'm willing to bet that Detroit has sub 25k houses too. Can't even compare. No crime, loud music, trashed out streets. The Japanese don't have vermins living amongst them. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:59:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Japan was overcrowded and shoehorning people into apartments the size of coffins. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:00:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Helps having a Japanese wife, that language is hard to learn and they don't like us gaijin. “Heaven is an American salary, a British house, a Chinese cook and a Japanese wife. Hell is a Chinese salary, a Japanese house, a British cook and an American wife.” |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:02:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't Japanese construction notoriously poor? Lol, no |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't even compare. No crime, loud music, trashed out streets. The Japanese don't have vermins living amongst them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm guessing that said 25K houses are not in Japan's version of The Hamptons. I'm willing to bet that Detroit has sub 25k houses too. Can't even compare. No crime, loud music, trashed out streets. The Japanese don't have vermins living amongst them. the don't have vermin living amongst them, yet. I gotta pack. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: getting killed by mechagodzilla is 500% cooler than dying of too many Big Macs Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's all fun and games until a kaiju stomps that shit flat. getting killed by mechagodzilla is 500% cooler than dying of too many Big Macs They have Big Macs in Japan… |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bet, we'll have weekly sushi and sake nights with JLP3  |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have Big Macs in Japan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's all fun and games until a kaiju stomps that shit flat. getting killed by mechagodzilla is 500% cooler than dying of too many Big Macs They have Big Macs in Japan obviously. you don't Godzilla's fupa eating yakisoba and sushi |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:05:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:07:29 PM EDT
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Japanese people don't typically buy and move into used housing. As noted earlier, the construction of houses is poor versus EU and US in general. It is customary to buy a home and then have it torn down and rebuilt. Japanese would not move into a previously occupied home. The homes are poorly insulated, the walls are much thinner.
If you buy a home that is used, you are looked at as a poor. You have now a home that won't last and also carries with it any bad mojo from the previous owner. Most Japanese also carry insurance on the entire home, including repairs of relatively small items. You can't get the same coverage for a used home. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:10:43 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Japanese people don't typically buy and move into used housing. As noted earlier, the construction of houses is poor versus EU and US in general. It is customary to buy a home and then have it torn down and rebuilt. Japanese would not move into a previously occupied home. The homes are poorly insulated, the walls are much thinner. If you buy a home that is used, you are looked at as a poor. You have now a home that won't last and also carries with it any bad mojo from the previous owner. Most Japanese also carry insurance on the entire home, including repairs of relatively small items. You can't get the same coverage for a used home. so just like buying a trailer in montucky, then? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tokyo still fond of wood structures I see. 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cities are. The rural areas are being abandoned. If they had more friendly gun laws it would be ideal opportunity . |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so just like buying a trailer in montucky, then? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Japanese people don't typically buy and move into used housing. As noted earlier, the construction of houses is poor versus EU and US in general. It is customary to buy a home and then have it torn down and rebuilt. Japanese would not move into a previously occupied home. The homes are poorly insulated, the walls are much thinner. If you buy a home that is used, you are looked at as a poor. You have now a home that won't last and also carries with it any bad mojo from the previous owner. Most Japanese also carry insurance on the entire home, including repairs of relatively small items. You can't get the same coverage for a used home. so just like buying a trailer in montucky, then?  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:30:41 PM EDT
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NHK has a Japanology Plus episode about vacant homes.
Seems part of the problem is people only want to buy new but it's not possible to demolish and build new because of new zoning laws. Because of that the empty shit shack and lot are pretty much worthless. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:31:55 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yes it is primarily pre-fabricated type -- designed to last 25-30-ish years. many articles online discuss this 'disposable housing' phenomenon. of course you have the value of the land. but your typical home in japan is not built to last 75+ years like here in the USA The land has the value. Old homes are uninsulated post and beam with the walls being sticks woven into lathe between beams and filled in with mud. Earthquake cycles fuck them up over time from some of the videos I have watched. The elements also seem particularly hard on them. Then again my house in Ohio is probably worse. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:36:07 PM EDT
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 Attached FileHow do you say, “oh yeah!” Koolaide man in Japanese? ‘Cuz that’s what’s happening in that doorway.  Attached FileWhen the Montuckyans invade Japan:  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:38:15 PM EDT
[#32]
If they didn’t have shit gun laws and weren’t going to be occupied by China in 20 years, I think I’d enjoy Japan.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:42:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Imagine living in a rural area, and every year there are less people around you.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine living in a rural area, and every year there are less people around you. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:49:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't Japanese construction notoriously poor? Have you seen the quality of new American family homes? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:51:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was single and thirty years younger, I’d Fo hard. I’d be making a lot of kids good at math. No shit, hot little Japanese spinners |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:55:08 PM EDT
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BRB, moving to Japan.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:12:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: When Jaya Thursfield found a house he wanted to buy in Japan a few years ago, friends and family told him to forget it. The place wasn't worth the trouble, they said. After all, it stood in a forest of shoulder-high weeds after being abandoned about seven years earlier one of the millions of vacant houses known as akiya, Japanese for "empty house" throughout the country. But Mr. Thursfield, 46, an Australian software developer, wasn't deterred. Through the overgrown garden, he could see it was special: The black roof tiles cascaded down to slightly curving eaves that were much higher off the ground than those of most houses. The entrance hall had its own gabled tile roof. If the 2,700-square-foot house looked more like a Buddhist temple than a farmhouse, it's because it had been built by a temple architect in 1989. Mr. Thursfield and his Japanese-born wife, Chihiro, had moved to Japan from London in 2017 with their two young sons and a dream of buying a home with a big yard. The plan was to purchase a vacant lot and build a house on it, but land is expensive in Japan and their budget wouldn't allow it. So they turned to the growing supply of abandoned houses, which are cheaper and often come with more land. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/04/22/multimedia/05JAPANHOUSES-1-ckgf/05JAPANHOUSES-1-ckgf-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp moar Is that Parker Schnabel? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was single and thirty years younger, I’d Fo hard. I’d be making a lot of kids good at math. Can't argue with this |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:20:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you seen the quality of new American family homes? Yes. Some settling cracks in drywall and shitty window frames and trim don't compare to what I've seen friends send me of their (fairly new) apartments in Tokyo. And insulation seems to be a dirty word there. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:46:58 PM EDT
[#41]
That would be interesting to own a home in Japan
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:52:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are these homes posted on Zirro.com? You win the internet today ! |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:54:07 PM EDT
[#43]
At $25K per………….we would do well to send every welfare leach over there and buy them a house.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:56:52 PM EDT
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BIL bought a new construction home a few years ago in a beach community, I never asked him what he paid for it though. He's really happy to be over there for good, not sure he'll ever return home. At some point we'll take the family over to visit.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:03:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI followed his progress on YouTube for like a year. He did a lot of work, but kept things more or less traditional. House looks nice, but the design is about impossible to keep heated and cooled. I often wondered what that guy does for a living, or if he just mooches off of the wife. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japanese people don't typically buy and move into used housing. As noted earlier, the construction of houses is poor versus EU and US in general. It is customary to buy a home and then have it torn down and rebuilt. Japanese would not move into a previously occupied home. The homes are poorly insulated, the walls are much thinner. If you buy a home that is used, you are looked at as a poor. You have now a home that won't last and also carries with it any bad mojo from the previous owner. Most Japanese also carry insurance on the entire home, including repairs of relatively small items. You can't get the same coverage for a used home. You mean compared to the us in its current situation? There was a house a couple of blocks from where I live that went up for sale for 275k. This house has absolutely no yard at all and its on a small lot hence the no yard. It sold within days like 3 years ago. It has a tarp over the roof cause it needs a new roof. A lot of these flipper houses are shit and are expensive. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:43:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Japan was overcrowded and shoehorning people into apartments the size of coffins. I guess the cities are where the jobs are. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:07:22 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think Japan is very big about letting non Japanese move into their country and they are smart for being that way. Last I checked foreigners can never own property in Japan. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:08:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: googled it. yep. I should have read farther. I wonder when that changed. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:22:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NHK has a Japanology Plus episode about vacant homes. Seems part of the problem is people only want to buy new but it's not possible to demolish and build new because of new zoning laws. Because of that the empty shit shack and lot are pretty much worthless. Is it possible to renovate them by replacing a wall at a time? Basically tear it down as you rebuild it so it doesn't look like it's being torn down. |
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