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Posted: 9/4/2024 5:27:25 PM EST
[#1]
There are really no words to describe how epic the dumbassery here is.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 5:34:25 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even assuming that the wireless encryption was secure, you are still broadcasting either a 2.4 or 5Ghz signal, likely both, constantly. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, enemy assets could detect and track that signal? That's not stupid, that's not giving a shit. She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. He got relieved of command because of the backwards scope? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 5:48:23 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Coming from squadron life with a command master chief, it seemed strange that there would be smaller units that would have their own CSEL at E8. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 5:54:03 PM EST
[#4]
I'm never surprised by the combinations of ingenuity and imbecility to be found in the Navy, expecting other services the same, too.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 5:56:14 PM EST
[#5]
The real question is why did they have to do this in secret? The Navy should be buying up Starlink dishes for all its ships.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:16:15 PM EST
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One of the questions I had earlier today when I read this article was what happened to the first XO?
...And I'm wondering if, in hindsight, whatever happened was warranted. The second-in-command of the ship gets relieved, apparently he was part of the investigation looking for a secret wi-fi network (that did, in fact, exist and was being covered up by the Senior Enlisted...) before his relief... Maybe he was doing something and needed to be relieved. But maybe he was on a ship with a problem, and was trying to chase it down, and was pissing off the people under him. BTW, it's worth pointing out the crew of this ship... Wiki puts it at 53, plus 'up to' 35 mission crew. Lets say 88. 15 of them got busted. That's 20% of the ships crew. What's amazing is that the Captain survived it. (XO #2 would presumably have been too new in role to take the fall) |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:24:22 PM EST
[#7]
Peacetime Navy. It’s going to be a rough morning when the Chinese attack. There will be a few who will be ready, though
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:31:02 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Peacetime Navy. It's going to be a rough morning when the Chinese attack. There will be a few who will be ready, though |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:37:52 PM EST
[#9]
At least they didn't set the ship on fire or hit anything.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:53:20 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From one Chief to another, I'd wager you're spot on. There doesn't appear to be a single sliver of integrity in that entire mess. Fucking disgraceful. They probabley all had "Dining Ins" 
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:53:22 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically all lower enlisted sailors are up to some shenanigans or another. Upper enlisted folks were once lower enlisted folks who never got caught  By the time you hit CPO, you're either really good at it, or mostly knocked it off. It's about a 50/50 split. I'm guessing she lied to most the rest of the Mess about it being approved, which is why they played along with it. There is no fucking way in hell everybody in the mess bought some story about slapping a starlink terminal on a pallet being approved. at least five of them would have been in the meetings where it would have been briefed if somebody was going to try it. Everybody knew that was bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:53:48 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even assuming that the wireless encryption was secure, you are still broadcasting either a 2.4 or 5Ghz signal, likely both, constantly. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, enemy assets could detect and track that signal? That's not stupid, that's not giving a shit. She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. She was convicted at a court martial, relieved of her position, and probably adsepped from the Navy. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:54:09 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He got relieved of command because of the backwards scope? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even assuming that the wireless encryption was secure, you are still broadcasting either a 2.4 or 5Ghz signal, likely both, constantly. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, enemy assets could detect and track that signal? That's not stupid, that's not giving a shit. She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. He got relieved of command because of the backwards scope? No. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:54:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The real question is why did they have to do this in secret? The Navy should be buying up Starlink dishes for all its ships. They actually are, but there's a whole different constellation for military use. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:56:50 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At least they didn't set the ship on fire or hit anything. Act Two, The Replacements. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 6:58:17 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This wasn’t stupidity this was intentional repeatedly lying that endangered the whole crew so her and the other chiefs could have internet. So, typical female behavior, especially with a little authority. Ended exactly as I would assume |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:05:05 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. Well that definitely wasn’t why the CO was relieved. That’s just what made him famous. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:17:25 PM EST
[#18]
It was prohibited by the Navy.
She ignored the rules. She lied to her commanders. On a civilian job that will result in a termination, not a demotion. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:44:19 PM EST
[#19]
What would she do for a Klondike bar?
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:45:01 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is false. There were more senior enlisted involved. They weren't all female or the same race, were they? Your prejudice is showing. Lol cupcake. You need a hug don’t you? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:50:50 PM EST
[#21]
It's lonely at the top, even moreso when you're a dumb ass. My last ship, had limits on outside access per day per person, once you hit that you were locked in to only ship functions. Outside world, closed.
One of the cool things the ET's did do was wire every berthing area for a private network offine. That way they could Playstation/Xbox with each other. In their rack. I did something similar in a barracks, except not online or linked. I got a grant to add two 54" flat-screen TV's and all of the popular game platforms so you could play games on one TV and actually watch TV on the other, or you could have two tv's running at once. The secret squirrel club actually looks for WIFI devices. They canvassed our floor once to find an unauthorized access point that had access to the web. No idea what came of it, but we shared space with the base IT department and I figured it was an inside job and someone was trying to be cute. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:57:50 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She gets to join the red stripe club now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She is a disgrace to the Navy. She was only busted to E-7? https://i.ibb.co/N72tHGm/IMG-6686.jpg Yeah… that fell by the wayside awhile back. It -was- 12 previous consecutive years of good service. A few changes later… it is now merely 12 total years of service. No immediately prior. No good service. No consecutive. Just 12 years of service. ???? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:00:28 PM EST
[#23]
At least she's fit
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:01:11 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh I had my starlink with me while deployed to eastern Europe. Sure, not Navy but you think the Navy would have a way to provide internet access while at sea. They do. Apparently the Manchester’s chief’s quarters were not happy with the service. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:06:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah… that fell by the wayside awhile back. It -was- 12 previous consecutive years of good service. A few changes later… it is now merely 12 total years of service. No immediately prior. No good service. No consecutive. Just 12 years of service. ???? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: She is a disgrace to the Navy. She was only busted to E-7? https://i.ibb.co/N72tHGm/IMG-6686.jpg Yeah… that fell by the wayside awhile back. It -was- 12 previous consecutive years of good service. A few changes later… it is now merely 12 total years of service. No immediately prior. No good service. No consecutive. Just 12 years of service. ???? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:13:20 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On what planet? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How did the ship's CO/XO/First Lt not spot it during 'walk arounds' or command tours or whatever it's called today This is the correct question. How the fuck did it go unnoticed. But the navy has a weird culture that senior enlisted and officers can do no wrong, so there's that, sort of a thin deep blue line. On what planet? Maybe in the Russian Navy
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:14:35 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid. The list of people not to fuck with usually had “red stripe senior chief” at the top. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: She is a disgrace to the Navy. She was only busted to E-7? https://i.ibb.co/N72tHGm/IMG-6686.jpg Yeah… that fell by the wayside awhile back. It -was- 12 previous consecutive years of good service. A few changes later… it is now merely 12 total years of service. No immediately prior. No good service. No consecutive. Just 12 years of service. ???? Worked for a couple red stripe Chiefs… hell on wheels indeed.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:16:55 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid. The list of people not to fuck with usually had “red stripe senior chief” at the top. Like everything else to do with tradition, the Navy has stripped that away too. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:17:44 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even assuming that the wireless encryption was secure, you are still broadcasting either a 2.4 or 5Ghz signal, likely both, constantly. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, enemy assets could detect and track that signal? That's not stupid, that's not giving a shit. Its no different than people bringing their phones and hot spots in to the box at a CTC rotation. Personally I think this is an over reaction. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:18:00 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even assuming that the wireless encryption was secure, you are still broadcasting either a 2.4 or 5Ghz signal, likely both, constantly. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, enemy assets could detect and track that signal? That's not stupid, that's not giving a shit. She created a tracking device for ships movement, allowed unfiltered communications with the entire world and lied to her command and she lost one rank. Meanwhile a senior officer shoots a rifle with a backward scope and is relieved of command. So when your kid wants to join the military, remember this. He got relieved of command because of the backwards scope? No. I know. I was looking for a response from the poster who made the statement. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:18:25 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is false. There were more senior enlisted involved. They weren't all female or the same race, were they? Your prejudice is showing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree with you but suspect sex and skin tone played a role. That is false. There were more senior enlisted involved. They weren't all female or the same race, were they? Your prejudice is showing. This is something that has been festering in the mess for the last 20 years. An idea that for whatever reason enters their mind, that I have arrived and bitches better bow down to my greatness. It's hard to find subject experts anymore that want to lead and glad hand, or mentor those behind them anymore. They are not leaders, they are managers. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:19:44 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like everything else to do with tradition, the Navy has stripped that away too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Stupid. The list of people not to fuck with usually had “red stripe senior chief” at the top. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:19:50 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even assuming that the wireless encryption was secure, you are still broadcasting either a 2.4 or 5Ghz signal, likely both, constantly. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, enemy assets could detect and track that signal? That's not stupid, that's not giving a shit. There's more to it. They installed additonal cabling and WIFI REPEATERS because the chiefs didn't get wifi thru the entire ship. The whole story is out on different sites. Its crazy how much coverup this was for a fuckin wifi that was exclusive to the chiefs She was caught 3 times and lied about everything and continued the coverup up, renaming the network as a wireless printer. Sailors knew of the it because they saw the wifi network If you paid her, she'd enter her password into your device\. She had a whole thing going on here |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:21:48 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the correct question. How the fuck did it go unnoticed. But the navy has a weird culture that senior enlisted and officers can do no wrong, so there's that, sort of a thin deep blue line. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How did the ship's CO/XO/First Lt not spot it during 'walk arounds' or command tours or whatever it's called today This is the correct question. How the fuck did it go unnoticed. But the navy has a weird culture that senior enlisted and officers can do no wrong, so there's that, sort of a thin deep blue line. Probably not initiated either. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:22:01 PM EST
[#35]
Wait, gold crew? Are we rotating crews for surface combatants now?
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:25:08 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being female has nothing to do with it. There were other Chiefs involved too. The breach in discipline and character is alarming. A whole level of senior enlisted leadership is compromised. How did that happen? How far has this breach spread? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:26:48 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Probably not initiated either.  I doubt a “non-genuine” chief would be able to get away with that shit and not get thrown under the bud far earlier. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:27:00 PM EST
[#38]
I take it the Navy doesn't have a strict code of conduct like the Marines. She should be swinging a mop...err, swabbing the deck.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:27:30 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, gold crew? Are we rotating crews for surface combatants now? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:29:57 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I take it the Navy doesn't have a strict code of conduct like the Marines. She should be swinging a mop...err, swabbing the deck. These days it's more of a suggestion. We're allowed to put our hands in our pockets for fuck sakes, no wonder folks thought starlink was acceptable. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:31:47 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rank does not equal intelligence. Neither does DEI promotions. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:38:43 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's more to it. They installed additonal cabling and WIFI REPEATERS because the chiefs didn't get wifi thru the entire ship. The whole story is out on different sites. Its crazy how much coverup this was for a fuckin wifi that was exclusive to the chiefs She was caught 3 times and lied about everything and continued the coverup up, renaming the network as a wireless printer. Sailors knew of the it because they saw the wifi network If you paid her, she'd enter her password into your device\. She had a whole thing going on here Holy fucking what |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:40:02 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was prohibited by the Navy. She ignored the rules. She lied to her commanders. On a civilian job that will result in a termination, not a demotion. She did get terminated, along with a criminal conviction. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:40:06 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How did the ship's CO/XO/First Lt not spot it during 'walk arounds' or command tours or whatever it's called today Here is a fun fact, the Commanding Officer for the USS Okinawa use to walk around the ship in the evening just wearing a white tee shirt and khaki pants. He looked like some old Chief. He would grab a spot at one of the tables in the Marine berthing quarters and just start shooting the shit with those around. We didn't know he was the Skipper of the Oki Boat. He was actually a rather personable guy. He was also purity good at playing Acey Duce. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:41:01 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid. The list of people not to fuck with usually had “red stripe senior chief” at the top. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: She is a disgrace to the Navy. She was only busted to E-7? https://i.ibb.co/N72tHGm/IMG-6686.jpg Yeah… that fell by the wayside awhile back. It -was- 12 previous consecutive years of good service. A few changes later… it is now merely 12 total years of service. No immediately prior. No good service. No consecutive. Just 12 years of service. ???? I was a red stripe Chief for 8 years. I knew a red stripe Master Chief once... |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:41:21 PM EST
[#46]
They left out porn. 99% of the traffic on that thing was Porn, no doubt....
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:42:07 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, gold crew? Are we rotating crews for surface combatants now? LCS, yes. Only LCS though. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:43:49 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt a "non-genuine" chief would be able to get away with that shit and not get thrown under the bud far earlier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Probably not initiated either. I doubt a "non-genuine" chief would be able to get away with that shit and not get thrown under the bud far earlier. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:45:08 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From one Chief to another, I'd wager you're spot on. There doesn't appear to be a single sliver of integrity in that entire mess. Fucking disgraceful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree with you but suspect sex and skin tone played a role. From one Chief to another, I'd wager you're spot on. There doesn't appear to be a single sliver of integrity in that entire mess. Fucking disgraceful. That's the reason my friend bailed at 20 years and a day. It's funny....he has been out a little over a year and his business is buried in work. Why? He is a fucking straight shooter with his clients. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:46:11 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have been more specific, not initiated the old way. Integrity in al things used to be a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:Probably not initiated either. I doubt a "non-genuine" chief would be able to get away with that shit and not get thrown under the bud far earlier. Ya, I once believed that.... |
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