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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of hyperbole here. First, list the States that are giving $3000 ? Second, It’s not “luxury level car” by any stretch of the imagination. It’s Utility level, and purposely designed as such. That said, I test borrowed a Y a couple weeks ago and really like it. The acceleration is “sports car level”, I guess you could argue that qualifies as “luxury”. Probably would have bought it, if I could figure out how to qualify for the $7000 tax credit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bought one two weeks ago. I like it more now than when I bought it. I'm pissed though, because they just dropped prices AGAIN! You can pick up a new model 3 for a little over $36k, and depending on your state you're getting around $10k back in tax incentives. That's a luxury level car for upper $20s. Crazy. And ignore the haters, the car is awesome. More like driving a computer that kicks ass on performance. And I'm regularly in a Lexus 450 and the interior, ride, build quality is similar. Really good value for the dollar. Lots of hyperbole here. First, list the States that are giving $3000 ? Second, It’s not “luxury level car” by any stretch of the imagination. It’s Utility level, and purposely designed as such. That said, I test borrowed a Y a couple weeks ago and really like it. The acceleration is “sports car level”, I guess you could argue that qualifies as “luxury”. Probably would have bought it, if I could figure out how to qualify for the $7000 tax credit. Make less than 150k agi single or 300k married. Have fed tax liability of at least 7500 |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:27:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What states would get you to $10k in incentives. I don't plan to replace my car for three years, so I'm not really in the market. Hopefully Tesla can keep driving costs down. I would like to eventually have one electric vehicle to power from my home grid. cA and NY, but there might be more i don't know of |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:28:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:29:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But real men don't drive cars. Men drive trucks. Period  Real men do any damn thing they want. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:29:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the price for the new highland m3 model? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bought one two weeks ago. I like it more now than when I bought it. I'm pissed though, because they just dropped prices AGAIN! You can pick up a new model 3 for a little over $36k, and depending on your state you're getting around $10k back in tax incentives. That's a luxury level car for upper $20s. Crazy. And ignore the haters, the car is awesome. More like driving a computer that kicks ass on performance. And I'm regularly in a Lexus 450 and the interior, ride, build quality is similar. Really good value for the dollar. Is this the price for the new highland m3 model? No Highland in the US. Reduced tax credits and increased prices are almost certain when Highland launches here. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:30:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly fuck... if that actually existed... |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:30:58 PM EDT
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Coworker had one of first models, when he opened his luxurious trunk, water poured in. He also couldnt run his heater in fear of not making it home. 140 mile round trip, alot of hills.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:31:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coworker had one of first models, when he opened his luxurious trunk, water poured in. He also couldnt run his heater in fear of not making it home. 140 mile round trip, alot of hills. willy nilly 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:33:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I understand it they have very few issues but when you do have issues it's going to suck bad for you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I never hear about Tesla's having to go back to the dealer for issues. Is it just not that common? Or do we just not hear about it? If they are reliable....great. If not, the fact that you have to do to a dealer for repairs would suck. Just a thought..... As I understand it they have very few issues but when you do have issues it's going to suck bad for you. In the one year I've owned my Model 3 it's had one issue....water condensation in one of the tail lights. I got on the app, typed a description and uploaded a picture, 3 days later Tesla showed up to my office and swapped it out for a new one in about 15 minutes. It was horrible....I didn't get to argue with the service manager, parts manager and general manager of a car dealership to get it fixed. 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:34:03 PM EDT
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No thanks.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:34:10 PM EDT
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If I'm getting a Tesla, I'll want the Autopilot/FSD package... and I'm not paying what they want to add it on to a new one. Only used ones that come with the package already for me.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: willy nilly Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Coworker had one of first models, when he opened his luxurious trunk, water poured in. He also couldnt run his heater in fear of not making it home. 140 mile round trip, alot of hills. willy nilly 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:36:26 PM EDT
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A 2024 Toyota Camry LE is only $20,000 if the federal government steals money from other taxpayers to give you a $7,500 subsidy. It has better fit, finish, and reliability although it's not a "luxury" car like a Model 3. If 32 MPG isn't good enough, you can get the hybrid (52 MPG) for $2,400 more (maybe the feds can steal even more money to pay for the upgrade).
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 2024 Toyota Camry LE is only $20,000 if the federal government steals money from other taxpayers to give you a $7,500 subsidy. It has better fit, finish, and reliability although it's not a "luxury" car like a Model 3. If 32 MPG isn't good enough, you can get the hybrid (52 MPG) for $2,400 more (maybe the feds can steal even more money to pay for the upgrade). yep that is exactly how it works |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:37:57 PM EDT
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Tesla no longer makes the only model I actually want, and I probably couldn't have afforded it even if they did.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go to tesla website and search inventory in your area. Done . . . Zero within 200 miles of me. 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yep that is exactly how it works Researching facts is for faggots. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go to tesla website and search inventory in your area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185900/Screenshot_20231206_134539_Chrome_jpg-3052280.JPG |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:40:00 PM EDT
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You get 6 months free supercharging if you order now and take delivery by the end of the year.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:44:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That 0-60 is just not workable. Every vehicle I've bought has consecutively had a lower 0-60 time. Current vehicle is right around 5 seconds so I need something faster when I replace it. That’s a shitty single motor model. I’d get the dual motor car at least if not the performance model. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:45:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:45:53 PM EDT
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How much to replace the battery?
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:47:04 PM EDT
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Lol, luxury car. The inside looks and feels terrible, they were too cheap to add dash gauges, or interior door handles, and if you want to drop another several grand you can get an autopilot that drives like a 15 year old with a learners permit.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:50:22 PM EDT
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Here ya go. OP is too busy singing Kareoki in his new Tesla, but I got y'all covered. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/ev-tax-credit-electric-vehicle-tax-credit
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:52:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EV THREAD  The Simpsons - Electric car of the future |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:52:23 PM EDT
[#27]
can i fit a shit ton of guns and gear, 4 grown ass men and some dead deer in it?
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:54:46 PM EDT
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There is a place for EVs. That will only get better as the technology matures and the infrastructure builds out.
But I remain opposed to government promotion of it. If its so great why do you have to bribe people to buy it? I say build more EVs. Build more ICE vehicles. Build more solar farms. Build more windmills. Build more nuke power plants. Build more hydro dams. Build more coal fired power plants. Build more oil fired plants. Drill more oil. Frack more oil. Harvest more natural gas. Mine more coal. Ramp it up! The economy will soar if we take off the government shackles.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:55:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: can i fit a shit ton of guns and gear, 4 grown ass men and some dead deer in it? You should see what my partner does to the Porsche.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can commute and have a bonfire at the same time! And don't forget the child slavery. EV's have all kinds of perks! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Luxury" It's certainly closer to the Lexus than the Sienna that it took the place of.  EV's have lots of positives. They kill influencers at higher rate than ICE vehicles, they.... uh. Um. Shit that's all I got. Okay they got one positive. Luxury was not on that list. You can commute and have a bonfire at the same time! And don't forget the child slavery. EV's have all kinds of perks! Meh, they're learning invaluable lessons about life, corporations and the 'murican way. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:58:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Wait until 2024
The Fed rebate will be available to the dealer at time of sale. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:04:04 PM EDT
[#32]
i have a plaid x, and its by no means "luxury", however it is quite nice, and does exactly what I bought it for. wife still has her GX and I still have my truck.
we also have a friend who works for mercedes, they loanered him their EV, now *that* one is luxury. but it just cannot haul ass which is the specific reason I got the tesla for; the tesla has nearly double the horsepower. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:15:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:16:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:17:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I only serve one god. And that is the shitpost! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You can commute and have a bonfire at the same time! And don't forget the child slavery. EV's have all kinds of perks! I thought you loved EVs. Or do you just play for both teams to piss everyone off? I only serve one god. And that is the shitpost!  The shitpost loves all. He rewards those who create irrespective of the quality, and punishes the wicked who pervert the world with their unimaginative copies. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:18:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An EV will keep you warm for the rest of your life... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/397309/TWXTe8o_0gC-S_vjhF516w_r-2778213-2778305.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Luxury" It's certainly closer to the Lexus than the Sienna that it took the place of. EV's have lots of positives. They kill influencers at higher rate than ICE vehicles, they.... uh. Um. Shit that's all I got. Okay they got one positive. Luxury was not on that list. An EV will keep you warm for the rest of your life... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/397309/TWXTe8o_0gC-S_vjhF516w_r-2778213-2778305.gif Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day. Put a man in a fire, keep him warm for life. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:25:03 PM EDT
[#38]
I bet I could get the neighbor lady to leave her husband if I bought a Tesla truck. Not sure what my wife would say but whatevs.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:29:57 PM EDT
[#39]
I don’t qualify for the tax incentives. Also the Tesla autopilot is very annoying.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:32:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But real men don't drive cars. Men drive trucks. Period My gender isnt associated in what I drive, maybe yours is. Also real men dont have periods. Period. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:33:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:34:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Done . . . Zero within 200 miles of me. I mean, Texas is pretty fucking big. Amirite? |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:38:35 PM EDT
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FIFY |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:50:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:51:30 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: A 2024 Toyota Camry LE is only $20,000 if the federal government steals money from other taxpayers to give you a $7,500 subsidy. It has better fit, finish, and reliability although it's not a "luxury" car like a Model 3. If 32 MPG isn't good enough, you can get the hybrid (52 MPG) for $2,400 more (maybe the feds can steal even more money to pay for the upgrade). Quoted: yep that is exactly how it works I can not tell if that’s sarcasm, but that’s not how it works. At all. Let’s start by saying all taxation is theft. That aside. The tax credit allows that taxpayer to pay less taxes. Other taxpayers do not pay more, and no other money is “diverted” to the guy who bought the EV. I mean, you guys take off mortgage interest on your taxes right?  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:52:43 PM EDT
[#46]
That's 'GFY Luxury!'
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:53:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: I bought one two weeks ago. I like it more now than when I bought it. I'm pissed though, because they just dropped prices AGAIN! You can pick up a new model 3 for a little over $36k, and depending on your state you're getting around $10k back in tax incentives. That's a luxury level car for upper $20s. Crazy. And ignore the haters, the car is awesome. More like driving a computer that kicks ass on performance. And I'm regularly in a Lexus 450 and the interior, ride, build quality is similar. Really good value for the dollar. “Luxury level car”  Enjoy that vegan leather and trash build quality |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:53:52 PM EDT
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I am looking at pre owned 2021 S Plaid on the Tesla site..$75k with 10k miles..that was a $135k msrp
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can not tell if that’s sarcasm, but that’s not how it works. At all. Let’s start by saying all taxation is theft. That aside. The tax credit allows that taxpayer to pay less taxes. Other taxpayers do not pay more, and no other money is “diverted” to the guy who bought the EV. I mean, you guys take off mortgage interest on your taxes right? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/376732/IMG_2785_jpeg-3052394.JPG Consider the source!  |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn’t call it luxury but the fit and finish of my 23 M3P is better than I expected. I wouldn’t buy anything but the performance version though. It’d be boring without being scary fast Quick linear acceleration is still boring. |
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