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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: One sign of progress at Ferrari is the announcement yesterday that they are getting into Americas Cup style sail boat racing. That allows them to pay top dollar for fluid dynamics ninjas, something they can’t really do with the budget cap. Joining Mercedes, then? The Ineos team has had a relationship with Mercedes since 2021. James Allison is the Chief Technical Officer for both Mercedes and Ineos Britannia. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:54:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike:
God, I hope not. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:03:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Joining Mercedes, then? The Ineos team has had a relationship with Mercedes since 2021. James Allison is the Chief Technical Officer for both Mercedes and Ineos Britannia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By fike: One sign of progress at Ferrari is the announcement yesterday that they are getting into Americas Cup style sail boat racing. That allows them to pay top dollar for fluid dynamics ninjas, something they can’t really do with the budget cap. Joining Mercedes, then? The Ineos team has had a relationship with Mercedes since 2021. James Allison is the Chief Technical Officer for both Mercedes and Ineos Britannia. Ineos owns a 1/3rd of the Mercedes F1 team. It’s a good place for aero folks to cut their teeth and it allows you to keep/grow talent in house. Newey stepped back in 2015 and worked on research with Red Bull Advanced Technologies for Americas Cup. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:21:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teamer: So he replaces Checo mid-season then and challenges max next year.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teamer: Originally Posted By Deadtired: As we await the start of the 2024 season, I reiterate my statement from last year that the entirety of Daniel Ricciardo's career from 2018 onward has been carefully orchestrated by Netflix to give Drive to Survive a multi-season redemption arc.  So he replaces Checo mid-season then and challenges max next year. Danny is the only teammate that Max lost to in F1. But then Max stopped being "Crashstoppen", started finishing races and the car got designed around him... |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 9:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: God, I hope not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By fike:
God, I hope not. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 9:30:13 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike:
Please no, just no. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 5:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Sao Paulo would no longer be the most crime-ridden Grand Prix of the season. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2024 9:04:21 PM EDT
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If you guys didn't catch it....Rolex 24 was a good show. After 24 hours....it all came down to less than a second for GTP.
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Posted: 1/29/2024 9:41:33 AM EDT
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For easy reference.
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Posted: 1/29/2024 10:12:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike:
Bad idea. |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 1:12:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Visa Cash App RB announced key appointments/hires today.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rb-f1-team-appoints-ex-fia-man-goss-confirms-permane-as-racing-director/10570441/ |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 4:20:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Visa Cash App RB announced key appointments/hires today. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rb-f1-team-appoints-ex-fia-man-goss-confirms-permane-as-racing-director/10570441/ Jesus. I guess it really will be referred to as "Visa Cash App RB" by the team. Danny and Yuki are gonna love saying that 5,000 times this season. |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 6:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: Jesus. I guess it really will be referred to as "Visa Cash App RB" by the team. Danny and Yuki are gonna love saying that 5,000 times this season. I wonder how many F Bomb’s Yuki has already dropped in media training. |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 7:07:28 PM EDT
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This pic looks like it came from an alternate reality.
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Posted: 1/29/2024 7:52:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teamer: I wonder how many F Bomb’s Yuki has already dropped in media training. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teamer: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Jesus. I guess it really will be referred to as "Visa Cash App RB" by the team. Danny and Yuki are gonna love saying that 5,000 times this season. I wonder how many F Bomb’s Yuki has already dropped in media training. How many souls will implode the first time either one of them says V-CARB ?  - |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 10:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: This pic looks like it came from an alternate reality. https://i.imgur.com/3qazEhb.jpeg |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 9:15:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:59:59 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117:
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 12:08:10 PM EDT
[#19]
Andretti bid rejected.
https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/39428940/formula-one-rejects-andretti-bid-join-2025-2026 Unsurprising from the Eurocentric and Petrodollar wankers running F1 and greedy teams. They care enough about the US to have 3 races, and possibly a 4th coming, but don’t care enough to want a US team on the grid. Just want the US dollars, but don’t want to sully the grid with a U.S. team. I’d bet if Audi, Porsche, VW, or a team from a rich Middle Eastern country had put in a bid, they would have been welcomed with open arms. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 12:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Andretti bid rejected. https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/39428940/formula-one-rejects-andretti-bid-join-2025-2026 Unsurprising from the Eurocentric and Petrodollar wankers running F1 and greedy teams. They care enough about the US to have 3 races, and possibly a 4th coming, but don’t care enough to want a US team on the grid. Just want the US dollars, but don’t want to sully the grid with a U.S. team. I’d bet if Audi, Porsche, VW, or a team from a rich Middle Eastern country had put in a bid, they would have been welcomed with open arms. Haas is as much of an American team as Andretti would be. And to be fair to Audi, VW, Porsche or a rich middle eastern country, they understand the correct approach. Andretti has set the gold standard example on what not to do. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 12:38:37 PM EDT
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Real talk from F1 on the Andretti rejection:
F1 said that it had written to Andretti with a series of questions in October and subsequently offered a meeting to discuss the entry, which Andretti did not take up. It said that Andretti proposed to build a car in 2025 and then a completely new car for the new rules in 2026 but that it was dependent on a compulsory supply from a rival PU manufacturer which would “be reticent to extend its collaboration beyond the minimum required while Andretti continues its plan to collaborate with GM in the longer term. F1 says that any compulsory PU supplier would this see as “a risk to its intellectual property and know-how”. Consequently, F1 concluded that trying to build two completely new cars in the first two years “gives us reason to question their understanding of the scope of the challenge involved”. F1 said that it was a technical challenge “of a nature that the applicant has not faced in any other formula or discipline in which it has previously competed, and it proposes to do so with a dependency on a compulsory PU supply in the initial years of its participation”. On this basis, F1 said that it did not believe that Andetti would be a competitive participant. The process thus concluded that an 11th team would not, on its own, provide value to the championship because the value would come from being competitive but F1 did not believe that this would be the case. F1 accepted that the Andretti name “carries some recognition for F1 fans,” but said that “our research indicates that F1 would bring value to the Andretti brand rather than the other way around”. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 12:48:44 PM EDT
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F1 has blown out some very credible hitters in the last decade. Their concerns about Andretti are valid. As for turning up with a bag of cash and being let in, those days are long gone.
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Posted: 1/31/2024 2:23:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Real talk from F1 on the Andretti rejection: You know damn well they didn't want to split up the profits anymore than they have to. It's like everything, it all boils down to money. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 2:23:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: F1 has blown out some very credible hitters in the last decade. Their concerns about Andretti are valid. As for turning up with a bag of cash and being let in, those days are long gone. Then they need to kick Gene and crew to the fucking curb. That team is a major embarrassment to the sport, and its fucking insulting towards Andretti in my opinion. They want GM/Caddy to come in with the engine etc, they just don't want Andretti its that simple. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 2:42:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whiplash_83: You know damn well they didn't want to split up the profits anymore than they have to. It's like everything, it all boils down to money. Andretti had budgeted for the difference - they would have in effect paid compensation. The issue is that F1 does not want a very high profile failure. They want a US team to kill it. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 2:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whiplash_83: You know damn well they didn't want to split up the profits anymore than they have to. It's like everything, it all boils down to money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whiplash_83: Originally Posted By fike: Real talk from F1 on the Andretti rejection: You know damn well they didn't want to split up the profits anymore than they have to. It's like everything, it all boils down to money. Definitely a component, but it’s more about jumping on the bandwagon built with the cash of others in a legacy window (buy in cost). Keep in mind that the money is coming from a 3rd party with a record of investing in various sports. This isn’t Mateschitz dumping money into something he was passionate about (and saving two teams), or Haas committing his own money before it was the obvious investment move, or Stroll saving Force India. This was strictly a 3rd party trying to leverage a low buy in cost to create a franchise asset that was to be managed by a group that aren’t exactly successful in an open wheel spec series. If you want to compare it to Haas, Gene made the personal financial commitment as a racer, Gainbridge was trying to make it as an investment. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 4:44:16 PM EDT
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F1's concerns about Andretti building a new car for 2025, and then doing it all over again for the regs changes for 2026 are completely valid IMO.
Also, wanting to use someone else's engine while working with another supplier to build your own opens the flood gates to unauthorized information sharing. F1 said that an application for 2028 would be viewed totally differently. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:24:06 PM EDT
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It'll be interesting to see if Audi stay the course, because if they are their usual capricious selves, it changes the dynamic a lot.
The thing that makes me curious about this is F1 just a couple of years ago was anxious about the engine supplier situation. They absolutely would want GM in as soon as possible. Maybe they don't think they're going to do it? |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: F1's concerns about Andretti building a new car for 2025, and then doing it all over again for the regs changes for 2026 are completely valid IMO. Also, wanting to use someone else's engine while working with another supplier to build your own opens the flood gates to unauthorized information sharing. F1 said that an application for 2028 would be viewed totally differently. F1 is also calling their bluff on GM developing a PU. Ok, show us how committed you actually are. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:33:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: It'll be interesting to see if Audi stay the course, because if they are their usual capricious selves, it changes the dynamic a lot. The thing that makes me curious about this is F1 just a couple of years ago was anxious about the engine supplier situation. They absolutely would want GM in as soon as possible. Maybe they don't think they're going to do it? I'd be concerned about their long term commitment to anything, with either Audi or Porsche. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:44:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: VAG is as fickle as the wind. I'd be concerned about their long term commitment to anything, with either Audi or Porsche. I'm in absolute agreement about Audi, but have a lot of respect for Porsche. They tend to stick their projects, and they genuinely want to race. I'm not sure that means anything for F1 (Porsche don't have the brand synergy) but I see them as distinct from their four-ring brother. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:48:28 PM EDT
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Let the speculation begin….
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:53:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Let the speculation begin….
I speculate Will Buxton is an insufferable wanker |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 8:13:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Let the speculation begin….
Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey 
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Posted: 1/31/2024 8:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By fike: Let the speculation begin….
Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:45:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By fike: Let the speculation begin….
Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey Is this the actual announcement, or just Will Buxton being a wanker by playing “I’ve got a secret”? |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:58:57 PM EDT
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Reddit is full of Hamilton to Ferrari talk. And there’s no way Ferrari are dumping Leclerc.
Hamilton is at the end of his career. RB is ahead by miles and Mercedes isn’t building a contender. He has always felt the need to race for Ferrari. His contract he just signed is a 1+1 deal… this could actually be happening. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:51:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chaas67]
[#38]
Don’t know the source but could this be the big news, Ferrari and Redbull!? Perhaps click bait, anyone know this person?
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:16:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OHBuckeyes]
[#39]
Sky announced Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025!
Now I really get to root against them. Wonder who Shung is going to root for??? https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:31:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fredegar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OHBuckeyes: Sky announced Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025! Now I really get to root against them. Wonder who Shung is going to root for??? https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season Almost hard to believe. That Shung part for real tho Also, driving an entire season for your future former team never seems like a good idea. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:38:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fredegar: Almost hard to believe. That Shung part for real tho Also, driving an season year for your future former team never seems like a good idea. The paddocks are going to be interesting this year. I would have to think that the Mercedes team will tailor the car around George this year, would that make sense? I can only imagine what silly season will look like this year if this is how preseason is going to be. 😁 |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:41:58 AM EDT
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Buxton had better intel than O'Keefe. Strange days to be alive.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:55:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By fike: Let the speculation begin….
Sainz out at Ferrari. Is the entire silly season going to happen before the first race? It's ruining some questions on the survey Sainz leaving wasn't a long shot. Hamilton replacing him? God damn, that's wild. Hamilton took one look at the W15 and said naw I'm out. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:04:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shung]
[#44]
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Either Ferrari will have to suck big time or leclerc to crush lulu for me to keep watching Or maybe someone thought it was April already ? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:07:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Either Ferrari will have to suck big time or leclerc to crush lulu for me to keep watching  Darth Vader "Noooo" |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Either Ferrari will have to suck big time or leclerc to crush lulu for me to keep watching Or maybe someone thought it was April already ? I really hope this is not true. But at the same time Sainz to AMR or RB for 25 then. Hopefully AMR so I get the points. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:12:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: F1's concerns about Andretti building a new car for 2025, and then doing it all over again for the regs changes for 2026 are completely valid IMO. Also, wanting to use someone else's engine while working with another supplier to build your own opens the flood gates to unauthorized information sharing. F1 said that an application for 2028 would be viewed totally differently. This I thought that was a very legitimate point and pretty much called Andretti a clown. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:14:50 AM EDT
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Hahahaha Ferrari really is self destructive
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:15:03 AM EDT
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This is a weird move on Ferrari’s side. Hamilton is clearly still driving well but driving better than Sainz? How many years will LH stick around and commit to Ferrari? 2-3 years at the most I’d imagine.
I didn’t expect to read this at all this morning. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:36:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Don't know the source but could this be the big news, Ferrari and Redbull!? Perhaps click bait, anyone know this person? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/137615/IMG_1849_png-3114286.JPG can we request a Mulligan on the survey if the entire structure of reality falls apart before day 1 of testing? This is what I get for doing assignments before the deadline. |
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