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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:47:20 PM EDT
[#1]
The thing is, if you're hotdogging an engine (of which you have a limited amount) to be a timesheet hero in practice, you've got about 24hrs before you look like a top arsehole. Mercedes don't need to do it. That's the behavior of underfunded teams trying to win sponsors. They have a run program, it's all about the whole weekend.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:54:37 PM EDT
[#2]
At the risk of dredging this up again, those messages are very tame. It's not quite appropriate for a married man to be doing that, but I'm not convinced he should lose his job over it.
Is he being blackmailed? |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:56:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: At the risk of dredging this up again, those messages are very tame. It's not quite appropriate for a married man to be doing that, but I'm not convinced he should lose his job over it. Is he being blackmailed? I hope he pulled a Jagr on this girl. Like this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/jaromir-jagr-blackmailed-with-photo-could-not-care-less-about-it |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:59:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewptwo: I hope he pulled a Jagr on this girl. Like this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/jaromir-jagr-blackmailed-with-photo-could-not-care-less-about-it The reason I think it's suspicious is it looks like a teaser drop to motivate him to pay. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: I saw this remarked upon by the F1TV crew. What telemetry? Top speed? It might just be a slippery car...no secret everyone looked at that after the insane RBR pace of the last two years. What's to be gained from turning up the power in FP2? It doesn't make any sense. Maybe the car is just quick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By Shung: little update on Fp2.. Not only Mercedes was running so low that a small tire started in the T-trail area of russel, but telemetry also show that their PU was running much higher than others I saw this remarked upon by the F1TV crew. What telemetry? Top speed? It might just be a slippery car...no secret everyone looked at that after the insane RBR pace of the last two years. What's to be gained from turning up the power in FP2? It doesn't make any sense. Maybe the car is just quick. You can get a pretty good idea using throttle application and corner speeds vs acceleration and comparing it to other instances (testing and FP1). FWIW, there are two telemetry sources, high and low bandwidth. Public data is low and the teams (and maybe others) get the high. IIRC, the low is somewhere around 10 samples per second while the high is in the hundreds per second. I bring it up because most of what we see is based on low bandwidth and with the speeds we are dealing with, it can make a fairly significant difference. The teams have the data and processing to know so much more. It isn’t shared because it would ruin a lot of the drama. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:15:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fike]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: The reason I think it's suspicious is it looks like a teaser drop to motivate him to pay. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By drewptwo: I hope he pulled a Jagr on this girl. Like this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/jaromir-jagr-blackmailed-with-photo-could-not-care-less-about-it The reason I think it's suspicious is it looks like a teaser drop to motivate him to pay. From what I have seen/read, none of it passes the sniff test. There are services that create fake WhatsApp conversations and the selfies show a 98-99% certainty of being created with AI. If it is just screenshot jpgs…..that is about as amateur as it gets. ETA:
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:18:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewptwo: I hope he pulled a Jagr on this girl. Like this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/jaromir-jagr-blackmailed-with-photo-could-not-care-less-about-it What's fucked up is that chick's boyfriend was on the Czech national team and his favorite player was obviously Jagr. Fucking whores, man. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:22:17 PM EDT
[#8]
I love this shot/technique.
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FM, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:27:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Please tell me how many people have me on ignore!! 😄 I have to imagine some of my ‘ignorant’ questions have gotten me on at least one persons’ list Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By flyhack72: Too bad you can't count how many people put a person on block.  Please tell me how many people have me on ignore!! 😄 I have to imagine some of my ‘ignorant’ questions have gotten me on at least one persons’ list I think you are good.  It's the trolling that triggers me. |
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FM, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: flyhack72]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry: I know Lulu’s diversity agenda at Ferrari has already been discussed here, but ran across this recent quote from him:  Ferrari has a lot of work to do!!Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry: I know Lulu’s diversity agenda at Ferrari has already been discussed here, but ran across this recent quote from him: Hamilton said his diversity push was a key topic in his talks with Ferrari chairman John Elkann. "Of course, [if] you look at Ferrari, they have a lot of work to do, so I've already made that a priority in speaking with John," Hamilton replied. "And they're super excited to work on it also." Ferrari has a lot of work to do!!Ferrari will make a major diversity push by hiring Al Jolson to sing Mammy at Monza  Here's Ham's future response: 
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:12:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: The thing is, if you're hotdogging an engine (of which you have a limited amount) to be a timesheet hero in practice, you've got about 24hrs before you look like a top arsehole. Mercedes don't need to do it. That's the behavior of underfunded teams trying to win sponsors. They have a run program, it's all about the whole weekend. i think they are running it as planned. I believe other are under running it |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:12:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: At the risk of dredging this up again, those messages are very tame. It's not quite appropriate for a married man to be doing that, but I'm not convinced he should lose his job over it. Is he being blackmailed? if thats all of it, then I fully agree with you |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:13:22 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: The reason I think it's suspicious is it looks like a teaser drop to motivate him to pay. thats also what I think. If you want to obtain something, you don't drop all your best cards at once |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:14:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: From what I have seen/read, none of it passes the sniff test. There are services that create fake WhatsApp conversations and the selfies show a 98-99% certainty of being created with AI. If it is just screenshot jpgs…..that is about as amateur as it gets. ETA:
sued because they are fake, or sued because they are personal/private stuff |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:24:00 PM EDT
[#15]
I was able to read the text in one screenshot.
from what i get it seems a something in between two consenting adults. At one points she's not playing the game and play the offending part. BS if thats all of it, its nothing. But I am afraid there might be more, and it smells like a trap. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 5:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: I don't think it was , my money is on Jos Verstappen and Helmut Marko ETA - i may have misread your post assumed you meant that Toto was behind this - apologies Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By Taboot: I never believed a word of it. Somewhere, Toto cries today. I don't think it was , my money is on Jos Verstappen and Helmut Marko ETA - i may have misread your post assumed you meant that Toto was behind this - apologies |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 5:09:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewptwo: I hope he pulled a Jagr on this girl. Like this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/jaromir-jagr-blackmailed-with-photo-could-not-care-less-about-it Well, Jagr not being married, and the girl not being an employee or direct report of Jagr's doesn't exactly make these two cases comparable. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 5:12:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taboot: No worries. I meant that he would have relished in Christian's demise. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taboot: Originally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By Taboot: I never believed a word of it. Somewhere, Toto cries today. I don't think it was , my money is on Jos Verstappen and Helmut Marko ETA - i may have misread your post assumed you meant that Toto was behind this - apologies Yes Toto would have. Heck Toto may have a letter from the complainant just like he had a letter from Perez on the porpoising car. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 5:13:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Teamer]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Yikes. Worth a listen. TLDW: Managed on an Excel sheet.
Dear lord. I’ve got a degree in engineering management, that’s awful. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 7:05:32 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: From what I have seen/read, none of it passes the sniff test. There are services that create fake WhatsApp conversations and the selfies show a 98-99% certainty of being created with AI. If it is just screenshot jpgs…..that is about as amateur as it gets. ETA:
Is the leak from [email protected]? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 7:16:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Yes Toto would have. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By Taboot: Originally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By Taboot: I never believed a word of it. Somewhere, Toto cries today. I don't think it was , my money is on Jos Verstappen and Helmut Marko ETA - i may have misread your post assumed you meant that Toto was behind this - apologies Yes Toto would have. As much as I dislike Toto, I doubt he would have really relished Horner’s getting fired. Unless, he thought Horner was behind the allegations against his wife, then it’s game on. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 7:17:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/29/2024 7:22:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Hail Mary play at the end of the game to try and pry money out of CH and or RB.
Seemed like a load of bullshit right from the start. Surprise! It was. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 8:22:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: Ferrari will make a major diversity push by hiring Al Jolson to sing Mammy at Monza https://geoffreyslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/4ad897ed2f75bf87303031102ad74584-the-jazz-singer-black-makeup.jpg It wouldn't be any more overtly racist that what he's faced in the past. Except now, he would actually have real recourse.  
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 9:45:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: I'm surprised they were allowed in I'm more surprised they weren't escorted out. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 10:00:07 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: I'm more surprised they weren't escorted out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: Originally Posted By flyhack72: I'm surprised they were allowed in I'm more surprised they weren't escorted out. Where was that? Based on the track, I might not be surprised at all. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 10:53:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Where was that? Based on the track, I might not be surprised at all. IIRC, Spain - the Spanish GP. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 10:57:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: IIRC, Spain - the Spanish GP. During the year that Fernando was teammates with Lewis at McLaren. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 11:33:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: Or stay at the back so when there's carnage into the first corner we get a birdseye view of it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: Originally Posted By tifosi: Originally Posted By fike: What car do you follow on the first lap? **At least have it in a PiP. Or stay at the back so when there's carnage into the first corner we get a birdseye view of it Send up 2 for the start and have others on stand by. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 11:34:04 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: I guess you missed the story where he did in fact say a thing about it. https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-hamilton-christian-horner-investigation-hanging-over-f1 “I think it’s a difficult one to answer and actually I think we always have to do more to try to make the sport and the environment that people get to work in feel safe and inclusive,” he told media including PlanetF1.com. “Any allegation has to be taken very seriously. “Obviously we don’t know everything that’s going on, but it does need to be resolved as it’s hanging over the sport. “And it will be really interesting to see how it will [change things] moving forwards in terms of the effect that it may or may not have on the sport moving forward. “I think it’s a really important moment for the sport to make sure that we stand true to our values.” Hamilton’s words were similar to that of his boss Toto Wolff, who also said it was a time to reflect for F1. “I think it’s clear Formula 1, and that the teams too, we stand for inclusion, equality, fairness, diversity,” he said. “And it’s not only about talking about it but living it day in and day out. I think this is the standard that we set ourselves. “We are a global sport, one of the most important sports platforms in the world, and we are role models.” Lulu doesn’t live rent free in my head. I don’t really care about him. I chose his name because, based on his past history and comments, this seems exactly the type of thing he would now say. Time will tell whether or not he drops it or does exactly what I suggested. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: LMAO. You write let’s move on and race … then go right back into the case and make it about Hamilton? The guy has nothing to do with this case and has not said a thing about it, and yet you throw him into the mix. He clearly lives in your head rent-free  I guess you missed the story where he did in fact say a thing about it. https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-hamilton-christian-horner-investigation-hanging-over-f1 “I think it’s a difficult one to answer and actually I think we always have to do more to try to make the sport and the environment that people get to work in feel safe and inclusive,” he told media including PlanetF1.com. “Any allegation has to be taken very seriously. “Obviously we don’t know everything that’s going on, but it does need to be resolved as it’s hanging over the sport. “And it will be really interesting to see how it will [change things] moving forwards in terms of the effect that it may or may not have on the sport moving forward. “I think it’s a really important moment for the sport to make sure that we stand true to our values.” Hamilton’s words were similar to that of his boss Toto Wolff, who also said it was a time to reflect for F1. “I think it’s clear Formula 1, and that the teams too, we stand for inclusion, equality, fairness, diversity,” he said. “And it’s not only about talking about it but living it day in and day out. I think this is the standard that we set ourselves. “We are a global sport, one of the most important sports platforms in the world, and we are role models.” Lulu doesn’t live rent free in my head. I don’t really care about him. I chose his name because, based on his past history and comments, this seems exactly the type of thing he would now say. Time will tell whether or not he drops it or does exactly what I suggested. It kind of sounds like Merc instructed their people on what to say if asked. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 11:46:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: This thread is already in mid-season form  Yep. Worse than Monday morning after the Super Bowl with no holding calls against the Chiefs kind of angst. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 11:48:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: Yep. Worse than Monday morning after the Super Bowl with no holding calls against the Chiefs kind of angst. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 6:22:16 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadow_Dancer: It wouldn't be any more overtly racist that what he's faced in the past. Except now, he would actually have real recourse. https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/01/03/09/racist-fans-415x340.jpg?width=1200&auto=webp&quality=75 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F17aaf5d4-b2e8-11ea-a05b-f50ae7bba1d8.jpg?crop=2376%2C1584%2C12%2C74 That was in Spain |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 6:34:28 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deadtired: Could be worse. T-Swizz could start dating Fernando Alonso for real.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:18:07 AM EDT
[#36]
I looked at the telemetry and indeed Mercedes was pushing its rpm way more than RB and Ferrari.
Also sainz was the faster in the slow corners and the snake. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:40:30 AM EDT
[#37]
Love how quali is Friday afternoon...
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:04:09 AM EDT
[#38]
Unfortunate.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:06:32 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartan16: Love how quali is Friday afternoon... Something happens starting Sunday. I thought it might have been Ramadan but web search says that starts March 10/11 - |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:13:08 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass: Something happens starting Sunday. I thought it might have been Ramadan but web search says that starts March 10/11 - Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass: Originally Posted By Spartan16: Love how quali is Friday afternoon... Something happens starting Sunday. I thought it might have been Ramadan but web search says that starts March 10/11 - It is Ramadan, but the issue is next weekend in Saudi. They didn’t want to have a short week (Sun-Bahrain, Sat-Saudi). |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:29:19 AM EDT
[#41]
Sainz .3 faster than leclerc !
This smells good for the qual ! |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:31:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shung]
[#42]
So Mercedes was higher on Pu yesterday!? Who could have guessed?
 Confirmation in a couple of hours |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2024 10:17:54 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass: Something happens starting Sunday. I thought it might have been Ramadan but web search says that starts March 10/11 - Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass: Originally Posted By Spartan16: Love how quali is Friday afternoon... Something happens starting Sunday. I thought it might have been Ramadan but web search says that starts March 10/11 - Im just bummed because I am at work. Wanted to watch the first one of the year live, as the sandbags come off the cars for the first time of the season. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 10:36:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartan16: Im just bummed because I am at work. Wanted to watch the first one of the year live, as the sandbags come off the cars for the first time of the season. Consider yourself lucky… I’ll be at the dentist 
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Posted: 3/1/2024 10:55:37 AM EDT
[#45]
F1TV has been touting new features to include “upgraded radio coms”, but I haven’t heard a word on any in car footage.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 11:17:37 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Sainz .3 faster than leclerc ! This smells good for the qual ! I so want Sainz to beat Leclerc this season because I think Ferrari did him dirty by dumping him. On a certain level, I can understand Ferrari jumping on the chance to get a 7 time world champion, and someone has to go, but I think Sainz deserved a little better. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 11:30:17 AM EDT
[#47]
So Horner met with FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem during FP3. After the meeting, camera showed the two of them shaking hands and being rather jovial.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2024 11:32:54 AM EDT
[#48]
An interesting stat mentioned during FP3, the last time VER wasn’t fastest in any of the practice sessions he won the race by 30sec.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 11:34:07 AM EDT
[#49]
Anyone else not have sound on the F1Live pre-qualifying show? I’ve tried on two devices.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 11:34:24 AM EDT
[#50]
Ehh….no sound on the F1TV coverage?
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