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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:27:10 AM EDT
[#1]
"I think we need to go get Max." I admire his enthusiasm, but let's be realistic, Lando.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:30:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Dang that was a good battle between Ham and Carlos. Carlos wants his spot back.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:30:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 20andOUT]
[#3]
Running Norris long and hoping piastri backs up Max to get a pit window?
Not sure that’s going to work, but I guess it’s their best chance. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:30:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Sainz should have let Lewis hit him
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:32:03 AM EDT
[#5]
Lando/Mclaren competely fucked their pit window up.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:33:19 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Lando/Mclaren competely fucked their pit window up. Yup they missed a golden opportunity on the long merc stop. Now Max cruised right past PIA. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:33:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By monkeypunch: Sainz should have let Lewis hit him Exactly. Except that Sainz would end up with the penalty. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:34:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Lando/Mclaren competely fucked their pit window up. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:36:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Yes they did. Not sure why they let him make the call. And its even worse...mediums is what they put on. At least if it was Hards they were trying for a 1 stopper....but mediums with 42 laps to go......sigh. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:40:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Jesus so much for those lofty upgrades on Ferrari...still the same shitbox and shitty strats.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:42:34 AM EDT
[#11]
I struggle to understand the Perez strategy… 🫤
Can someone enlighten me? |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:46:53 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: I struggle to understand the Perez strategy… 🫤 Can someone enlighten me? You got me. Don't understand it either except that RBR gave up on him earlier like me. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:50:57 AM EDT
[#13]
Great battle!
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:01:23 AM EDT
[#14]
I mean Lando has already chipped away 3 seconds of Max's lead. I still don't think they will get him, but at the end with newer sorts than Max there might be a chance.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:10:06 AM EDT
[#15]
Max, Lando, George/Louie
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:13:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Lando is flying.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:19:51 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewptwo: I mean Lando has already chipped away 3 seconds of Max's lead. I still don't think they will get him, but at the end with newer sorts than Max there might be a chance. FWIW, Max is on a new set of softs and Lando is on a scrubbed set. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:27:50 AM EDT
[#18]
Lap 64 and there are 36 posts in this thread since the start of the race, that might be a record low lol
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:29:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Struggle bus, huh?
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:30:12 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Lap 64 and there are 36 posts in this thread since the start of the race, that might be a record low lol Yeah. Not many folks showing up anymore. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:32:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Lap 64 and there are 36 posts in this thread since the start of the race, that might be a record low lol Didn't seem much to talk about. Pretty boring over all, IMO. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:33:07 AM EDT
[#22]
I wanted 1 more lap for charles there
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:33:09 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Didn't seem much to talk about. Pretty boring over all, IMO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Lap 64 and there are 36 posts in this thread since the start of the race, that might be a record low lol Didn't seem much to talk about. Pretty boring over all, IMO. Agreed, even though Norris finished less than 3 seconds off Max. No yellow flags, no safety car, no DNFs... |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:35:02 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Didn't seem much to talk about. Pretty boring over all, IMO. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:36:02 AM EDT
[#25]
All things equal, I think McLaren / Norris is faster than RB/Verstappen
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:36:06 AM EDT
[#26]
The only talking point is that NOR overtakes LEC in the WDC
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:36:14 AM EDT
[#27]
Boring race. Ferrari needs to get their shit together pronto.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:38:13 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinU235: Didn't seem much to talk about. Pretty boring over all, IMO. Race seemed to go by fast too |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:40:29 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maroonfeather: Boring race. Ferrari needs to get their shit together pronto. They’ve been needing to do that for years |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:43:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: danpass]
[#30]
I was seeing the VER / NOR gap as Red Bull simply staying ahead, vs McLaren actually catching up.
You don’t get extra points for time gaps. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 11:01:00 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gohuskers: Yeah. Not many folks showing up anymore. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gohuskers: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Lap 64 and there are 36 posts in this thread since the start of the race, that might be a record low lol Yeah. Not many folks showing up anymore. Thread commentary and excitement are directly proportional with Ferrari’s results. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 11:02:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Cypher214]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass: I was seeing the VER / NOR gap as Red Bull simply staying ahead, vs McLaren actually catching up. You don't get extra points for time gaps. "Win the race as slowly as possible" is the mantra, right? |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 11:12:54 AM EDT
[#33]
I really need to invest in F1 TV. Post race on ESPN still hasn't started for some stupid reason.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/23/2024 11:13:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: willi3d]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Jesus so much for those lofty upgrades on Ferrari...still the same shitbox and shitty strats. Agree on the upgrades not working. Both McLaren and Merc faster after their upgrades. Ferrari need to think about ending up 4th on the WCC. Not sure about the strat being shitty. Both Merc and Ferrari had one guy on hards and the other on softs on the last stint, and clearly softs were the way to go. Leclerc almost got to Russell. ETA: Oscar needs to pick up his game to help McLaren in the WCC. Lando can’t do it alone. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:21:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Just finished watching the race. You think Lewis is starting to question jumping to Ferrari now?
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:24:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gohuskers: Yeah. Not many folks showing up anymore. I’m at work so no one to complain about McLaren screwing up. Time for the team to start making the big strategy decisions instead of Lando. Lando needs to work on his starts as well. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:25:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: All things equal, I think McLaren / Norris is faster than RB/Verstappen Yep. I wonder if Newey leaving RB is because he said "Don't do the thing with the RB20...." and they did the thing while he worked on the RB17 Hypercar. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the RB19 go against everyone else's 2024 car just from a performance standpoint. Did the field close the gap, or did RedBull get the RB20 wrong? Max is going to have to work for a 4th title this year, which isn't a bad thing, but I think the Constructor's title is definitely up for grabs between McLaren and Mercedes. They should have promoted RIC to the 2nd seat and given Liam the ride in the VCARB, and kicked PER to the curb. He's fucking terrible. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:45:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: Yep. I wonder if Newey leaving RB is because he said "Don't do the thing with the RB20...." and they did the thing while he worked on the RB17 Hypercar. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the RB19 go against everyone else's 2024 car just from a performance standpoint. Did the field close the gap, or did RedBull get the RB20 wrong? Max is going to have to work for a 4th title this year, which isn't a bad thing, but I think the Constructor's title is definitely up for grabs between McLaren and Mercedes. They should have promoted RIC to the 2nd seat and given Liam the ride in the VCARB, and kicked PER to the curb. He's fucking terrible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: Originally Posted By chaas67: All things equal, I think McLaren / Norris is faster than RB/Verstappen Yep. I wonder if Newey leaving RB is because he said "Don't do the thing with the RB20...." and they did the thing while he worked on the RB17 Hypercar. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the RB19 go against everyone else's 2024 car just from a performance standpoint. Did the field close the gap, or did RedBull get the RB20 wrong? Max is going to have to work for a 4th title this year, which isn't a bad thing, but I think the Constructor's title is definitely up for grabs between McLaren and Mercedes. They should have promoted RIC to the 2nd seat and given Liam the ride in the VCARB, and kicked PER to the curb. He's fucking terrible. Looking at last year’s qualifying, the RB19 would struggle to get into Q3. Lando’s pole lap was 1:11.383 Max’s pole from last year was 1:12.272 But….the RB19 finished last year’s race 22 seconds sooner (1:27:57.9 vs 1:28:20.2). I’d say they developed in the correct direction as it would lose considerably more than 22 seconds starting P11 or P12. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:56:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sgthatred: Just finished watching the race. You think Lewis is starting to question jumping to Ferrari now? With every fiber of my being yes.....but I think they gave him such a "Mega" deal to push his bullshit agenda he doesn't care. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:08:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:16:08 PM EDT
[#41]
With the FIA now “allowing” flexible front wings, we shouldn’t underestimate the performance advantage some teams currently have.
And to not sound like a conspiracy theorist, look no further than Aston Martin last year. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:22:48 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sgthatred: Just finished watching the race. You think Lewis is starting to question jumping to Ferrari now? Probably not. Likely he thinks he can “fix” Ferrari. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 2:05:10 PM EDT
[#43]
It’s awesome to see the gaps getting closer in wins. Hopefully this continues for awhile.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 2:08:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Valterri spills the beans on driver moves.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 2:24:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: not_sure]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: With the FIA now “allowing” flexible front wings, we shouldn’t underestimate the performance advantage some teams currently have. And to not sound like a conspiracy theorist, look no further than Aston Martin last year. Nothing is perfectly rigid, there will always be some flexibility in any structure. The beams on a bridge will deflect some from you driving over it. So the FIA specs a maximum deflection for a specified load. The trick is to comply with this and still have the wing lose down force and drag at high speed. ETA, if you have F1TV, Sam Collins did a segment on this topic. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 2:55:28 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By not_sure: Nothing is perfectly rigid, there will always be some flexibility in any structure. The beams on a bridge will deflect some from you driving over it. So the FIA specs a maximum deflection for a specified load. The trick is to comply with this and still have the wing lose down force and drag at high speed. ETA, if you have F1TV, Sam Collins did a segment on this topic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By fike: With the FIA now “allowing” flexible front wings, we shouldn’t underestimate the performance advantage some teams currently have. And to not sound like a conspiracy theorist, look no further than Aston Martin last year. Nothing is perfectly rigid, there will always be some flexibility in any structure. The beams on a bridge will deflect some from you driving over it. So the FIA specs a maximum deflection for a specified load. The trick is to comply with this and still have the wing lose down force and drag at high speed. ETA, if you have F1TV, Sam Collins did a segment on this topic. I saw it. There will always be gray areas and work arounds. That’s what makes F1 great. The FIA deemed that AM went too far last year and they went from podiums to midfield overnight. With the way these cars work, it is extremely powerful. This year, something similar is being done and they are allowing it. Not a complaint on my end. Just that there is a ton of performance on offer and it will take teams a while to implement the upgrade. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 4:08:36 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By monkeypunch: Sainz should have let Lewis hit him That fag can't pass without hitting someone |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 4:28:51 PM EDT
[#48]
They should bring back the old track for this race
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/23/2024 6:18:38 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: Yep. I wonder if Newey leaving RB is because he said "Don't do the thing with the RB20...." and they did the thing while he worked on the RB17 Hypercar. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the RB19 go against everyone else's 2024 car just from a performance standpoint. Did the field close the gap, or did RedBull get the RB20 wrong? Max is going to have to work for a 4th title this year, which isn't a bad thing, but I think the Constructor's title is definitely up for grabs between McLaren and Mercedes. They should have promoted RIC to the 2nd seat and given Liam the ride in the VCARB, and kicked PER to the curb. He's fucking terrible. Gasly was shown the door with similar results. Albon, in a high mid-pack car, performed comparative; shown the door. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 7:41:25 PM EDT
[#50]
I love Checo, but it's time. Id rather see Yuki in the second car.
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