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Link Posted: 3/11/2022 11:58:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:


They should be sanctioned into oblivion and make the russians support them.
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

They are absolutely part of the invasion.  The fact that they have been free from international response is interesting to say the least.


They should be sanctioned into oblivion and make the russians support them.

Swift ban extended to Belarus
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:00:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Biden in news conference right now, says he will introduce a bipartisan bill to remove Russia's MFN (Most Favored Nation) status.
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That's all good and well but Ukraine needs real help now. Playing fuck fuck games with money isn't going to save any lives soon.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:00:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goneshootin:



I listened to her yesterday. that was enough. Someone on the news described it well. It's a horrendous situation these people are dealing with and "She's speaking as if she was on the View".

She has zero leadership skills. No authority in her tone. Total inability to think on her feet and answer tough questions without cackling and repeating herself. The inability to be quick-witted is huge. You either have it or you don't and it's a requirement in those settings. She comes across as a child.

Honestly the US is better off keeping her off the world stage. She does more damage than good. Send someone else. Anyone.
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Originally Posted By goneshootin:
Originally Posted By zach_:
Anybody watching VP Harris make a fool of herself and the USA?



I listened to her yesterday. that was enough. Someone on the news described it well. It's a horrendous situation these people are dealing with and "She's speaking as if she was on the View".

She has zero leadership skills. No authority in her tone. Total inability to think on her feet and answer tough questions without cackling and repeating herself. The inability to be quick-witted is huge. You either have it or you don't and it's a requirement in those settings. She comes across as a child.

Honestly the US is better off keeping her off the world stage. She does more damage than good. Send someone else. Anyone.



She is an embarrassment. This is what happens when you force “equality” and sacrifice competence.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:00:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



Very true.
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
https://i.ibb.co/hDxkBy4/20220311-103427.jpg

Given the surveillance aircraft NATO has been flying non-stop, there should be hard evidence to either confirm or deny this.

Time for the potato to step up.



Very true.


Yeah, we'll see how they are going to play this. Russia will lie, of course. The US certainly has evidence of exactly what happened. But it won't stop russia and belarus from claiming justification anyway.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:02:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



Ukraine does NOT use red stars on aircraft or anything else.
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Originally Posted By Javak:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Crimea. Russian air defense shot down Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh.  This is like one that crashed into Croatia yesterday.

https://t.me/milinfolive/78443

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122973/Screenshot_from_2022-03-11_09-01-54_png-2309472.JPG

Why does it have a red star, though?



Ukraine does NOT use red stars on aircraft or anything else.


What are the chances Russia is using these drones that have a similar flight profile to kalibr to try and create another provocation/escalation? Could explain the one that overflew a few NATO nations. NATO thinks a Russian cruise missile or missiles are inbound... I don't know why. I don't know why Russia deciding invading Ukraine was a good idea either.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:02:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:

What is the Whitehouse really saying? Nuke, Chem, and Bio all call for total response.
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She said directly they are trying to prevent a world war. Which is largely a blank check for russia.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:04:00 PM EDT
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html


Russia learns the TRUTH: State TV DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war


Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, used an appearance on Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' - a man referred to as Putin's propagandist-in-chief - to call on the Russian president to end the attack, while warning allies like China and India could soon turn their backs on Moscow.

'Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.'

He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us. 'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.  


The Narrative is breaking, Putin will probably do one last desperate attempt to turn the war

Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:05:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:


If Putin hits Delaware Biden will pull out his straight razor.
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Originally Posted By atavistic:

Putin nuking the entire east coast of the US is probably not a 'red line' for this WH.


If Putin hits Delaware Biden will pull out his straight razor.
You mean his chain that he used against Corn Pop which was probably a dog leash for his little Yorkie.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:05:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Meanwhile somewhere in Russia, Anons are hard at work:
https://t.me/u_now/27630

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My god . . . troll level 1000.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:06:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:08:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html


Russia learns the TRUTH: State TV DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war


Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, used an appearance on Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' - a man referred to as Putin's propagandist-in-chief - to call on the Russian president to end the attack, while warning allies like China and India could soon turn their backs on Moscow.

'Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.'

He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us. 'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.  


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That is will be the last time those guests are invited on those shows. The TV stations won't dare piss off the state. The narrative is not breaking, it is just taking time to put a stop to all of the dissenting views.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:08:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Et2ss:
Sad and badass at the same time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNfbBk_XEAUUzeK?format=jpg&name=small

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She will grow up loving Freedom and hating the Russians who tried to take it away.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:09:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html


Russia learns the TRUTH: State TV DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war


Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, used an appearance on Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' - a man referred to as Putin's propagandist-in-chief - to call on the Russian president to end the attack, while warning allies like China and India could soon turn their backs on Moscow.

'Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.'

He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us. 'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.  


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The guy is certainly right about one thing.  The war is going to be worse for them.  In about a decade in Afghanistan they lost about 15k personnel (per wiki) and they are moving quickly to that number in less than a month.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:10:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:10:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Meanwhile somewhere in Russia, Anons are hard at work:
https://t.me/u_now/27630

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Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:10:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html


Russia learns the TRUTH: State TV DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war


Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, used an appearance on Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' - a man referred to as Putin's propagandist-in-chief - to call on the Russian president to end the attack, while warning allies like China and India could soon turn their backs on Moscow.

'Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.'

He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us. 'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.  


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Looks that way, the question is can the Ukrainians hold out long enough for Russia to back down or change it's leadership.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:11:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goneshootin:
I listened to her yesterday. that was enough. Someone on the news described it well. It's a horrendous situation these people are dealing with and "She's speaking as if she was on the View".

She has zero leadership skills. No authority in her tone. Total inability to think on her feet and answer tough questions without cackling and repeating herself. The inability to be quick-witted is huge. You either have it or you don't and it's a requirement in those settings. She comes across as a child.

Honestly the US is better off keeping her off the world stage. She does more damage than good. Send someone else. Anyone.
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well, they can't have Biden on the world stage, and if she's a total fruit basket, next up would be Blinken, or woke SecDef?  Miley?  this administration seems to be short on credible, competent leaders.

maybe somebody from behind the green curtain will be revealed?

ETA: Susan Rice?
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:12:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Et2ss:
Sad and badass at the same time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNfbBk_XEAUUzeK?format=jpg&name=small

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What a harsh reality to live in.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:13:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:

It is kind of peculiar.  Russia (allegedly) hasn't used them since 1989
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



Ukraine does NOT use red stars on aircraft or anything else.

It is kind of peculiar.  Russia (allegedly) hasn't used them since 1989

That is very demonstrably false with even a little cursory internet picture searching, even of just downed Russian aircraft in this thread.

It is a current Russian red star.

Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:13:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


Ukraine is in no position currently to have even more troops to deal with.
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Originally Posted By Climbmadone:



Belarus should get the shit bombed out of them either way. Another POS commie leader.


Ukraine is in no position currently to have even more troops to deal with.

"Russian and/or Belarusian forces remain unlikely to attempt to open a new axis of advance into western Ukraine in the near future. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on March 10 that Ukrainian forces continue to cover the border with Belarus.[10] The Russian military is unlikely to be able to concentrate sufficient combat power to conduct any meaningful operation against western Ukraine."

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-10

ETA:
was kinda wondering why Russian forces haven't pushed down from Belarus to intercept all the tank-killer, aircraft-killer missile resupply coming in from Poland.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:13:43 PM EDT
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Yeah, either that dude is enormous or the rest of those guys are Hobbits.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:14:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carcrazysammy:



If Tom Clancy was right (30 years ago anyway) the US has trailers on every one of these. Let's hope to god they still do.
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Originally Posted By mercersfinest4:


I wonder how successful they would be in actually landing ICBMs.  Between our missile defense system and their equipment failing to operate at 100%, I don't know what actually gets through.

Hopefully our attack boats are trailing their boomers.  Is a big slow bomber going to make all the way over to the COTUS?



If Tom Clancy was right (30 years ago anyway) the US has trailers on every one of these. Let's hope to god they still do.


The Russian R-29M Shtil SLBMs have about the same range as US Minuteman ICBMs, which means the Russians can literally launch from port and hit just about any target in the US.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:14:05 PM EDT
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Oh, boy...
Glut of civil aviation aircraft coming soon!
Start unloading Boeing stock.

Hundreds of Irish-Owned Aircraft To Be Ordered Back From Russia
Hundreds of Irish-Owned Aircraft To Be Ordered Back From Russia

Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:14:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Drakich:


We have no idea what the actual size of the Chinese arsenal is.  Given the number of official strategic warheads they have hasn't increased, literally, since 2000, and they've deployed at least 3 strategic platforms since then, I suspect the estimates for Chinese nuclear forces are way under the actuals.
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Originally Posted By BigReb:
Originally Posted By mercersfinest4:


I wonder how successful they would be in actually landing ICBMs.  Between our missile defense system and their equipment failing to operate at 100%, I don't know what actually gets through.

Hopefully our attack boats are trailing their boomers.  Is a big slow bomber going to make all the way over to the COTUS?



If only 10 percent hit their targets thats still twice as many as the current Chinese arsenal.


We have no idea what the actual size of the Chinese arsenal is.  Given the number of official strategic warheads they have hasn't increased, literally, since 2000, and they've deployed at least 3 strategic platforms since then, I suspect the estimates for Chinese nuclear forces are way under the actuals.


Someone posted earlier in this thread that China was building 350 silos for ICBMs that contained 10 MIRV'd warheads each.  That alone would be 3500 strategic warheads.   I don't know what the West isn't trying to actively engage China in strategic arms reduction talks.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:14:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:



She is an embarrassment. This is what happens when you force "equality" and sacrifice competence.
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:
Originally Posted By goneshootin:
Originally Posted By zach_:
Anybody watching VP Harris make a fool of herself and the USA?



I listened to her yesterday. that was enough. Someone on the news described it well. It's a horrendous situation these people are dealing with and "She's speaking as if she was on the View".

She has zero leadership skills. No authority in her tone. Total inability to think on her feet and answer tough questions without cackling and repeating herself. The inability to be quick-witted is huge. You either have it or you don't and it's a requirement in those settings. She comes across as a child.

Honestly the US is better off keeping her off the world stage. She does more damage than good. Send someone else. Anyone.



She is an embarrassment. This is what happens when you force "equality" and sacrifice competence.
The truly sad thing is that there are plenty of competent women of color. It's just that none of them had the right political orientation to make it.

I can see Candace Owens shoving her foot so far up Putin's ass that he'd need to open his mouth to untie her shoe.  She would rock here.

But alas - we got Kamala . The worst of all possible candidates.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:15:21 PM EDT
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When Russia went into the Ukraine last month, a shit ton of Russians in Salem, OR, the thuggish kind celebrated at my local gym which has a sauna and jacuzzi, swim pool. They were loud and boisterous.

Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:16:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:



She is an embarrassment. This is what happens when you force “equality” and sacrifice competence.
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She is an empty chest, cursed with an empty mind, full of empty words.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:16:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
And they keep tightening the thumbscrews.

U.S., G7 allies may strip Russia of 'most favored nation' status
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I saw that this morning, but I have to ask why does Russia have MFN all this time?  At least why for the USA?

Seems to me that if NATO members want a stronger NATO, then MFN would be given to all NATO members.  I mean, if one wants to increase NATO military spending among the members, there's two ways to go about it. Either increase the percentage of GDP, or increase the GDP, or both.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:16:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chisum:


I doubt Biden let them in as they are not left-wing enough. However, I know there are many Ukrainian immigrants in Ohio prior to Biden's election. In my small hometown, there are 57 and they have their own church. There are many all over.  By 1900, over 10,000 Ukranians emmigrated to Ohio and they have kept coming ever since.
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There are many Ukrainians and Russians that have moved to my area in the last 20 years or so.  They seem to intermix (Russian, Ukrainian, Moldovan, etc) and all attend the same churches.  They are mostly all very hardworking,  conservative voting, religious and have strong family values.  A lot of them have large families too.

I can see why they would be the exact opposite of what Biden wants as they don't vote democrat.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:16:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CS223:

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/1284

The legendary Ghost of Kyiv is on guard, on a new plane, and he is  coming after souls of russian invaders.

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Oh. Hell. Yes!

I got my T-shirt a few days ago.

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Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:17:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Biden in news conference right now, says he will introduce a bipartisan bill to remove Russia's MFN (Most Favored Nation) status.
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and i'll bet they'll try to sneak in all kinds of pork, and "Build Back Better" socialist shit to transfer money from those that earn it, to those that choose not to earn it.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:17:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html


Russia learns the TRUTH: State TV DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war


Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, used an appearance on Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' - a man referred to as Putin's propagandist-in-chief - to call on the Russian president to end the attack, while warning allies like China and India could soon turn their backs on Moscow.

'Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.'

He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us. 'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.  


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Is the tide turning on Pooty-Poot?  

Hoping this is true...
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:18:26 PM EDT
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UN Security Council Meeting.

The Russians will be giving their chemical weapons evidence presentation https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:19:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Oh, boy...
Glut of civil aviation aircraft coming soon!
Start unloading Boeing stock.

Hundreds of Irish-Owned Aircraft To Be Ordered Back From Russia
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You think the Russians are going to comply?
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:20:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Intune69:

Damn, Someone could make a website, Ukrainian Tractor Memes.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/174758/03FC2A46-0459-441D-A155-34EB90DED9BC_jpe-2309486.JPG

FIGHT, Ukraine!
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122973/Screenshot_from_2022-03-10_21-57-49_png-2309173.JPG

Damn, Someone could make a website, Ukrainian Tractor Memes.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/174758/03FC2A46-0459-441D-A155-34EB90DED9BC_jpe-2309486.JPG

FIGHT, Ukraine!


LOL

I may go hug my tractor this evening.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:20:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

That is very demonstrably false with even a little cursory internet picture searching, even of just downed Russian aircraft in this thread.

It is a current Russian red star.

https://i.imgur.com/Bgx3JPJ.jpg
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



Ukraine does NOT use red stars on aircraft or anything else.

It is kind of peculiar.  Russia (allegedly) hasn't used them since 1989

That is very demonstrably false with even a little cursory internet picture searching, even of just downed Russian aircraft in this thread.

It is a current Russian red star.

https://i.imgur.com/Bgx3JPJ.jpg

Them being the Tu-141 is how I understood the statement.  But as noted, the Russians don't throw anything away.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:20:38 PM EDT
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maybe a hundred pages ago, there was a blurb about Ukraine requiring a 3-yr contract for foreign fighters.  and never saw anything else on that.  disinformation propaganda?
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:20:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:

It is kind of peculiar.  Russia (allegedly) hasn't used them since 1989
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



Ukraine does NOT use red stars on aircraft or anything else.

It is kind of peculiar.  Russia (allegedly) hasn't used them since 1989



Russia still uses them and even still uses the hammer & sickle on uniforms.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:21:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 74HC:

I saw that this morning, but I have to ask why does Russia have MFN all this time?  At least why for the USA?

Seems to me that if NATO members want a stronger NATO, then MFN would be given to all NATO members.  I mean, if one wants to increase NATO military spending among the members, there's two ways to go about it. Either increase the percentage of GDP, or increase the GDP, or both.
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I don't know, I would have to go back and look at when Russia was granted the status and what the political landscape was at the time. I'm guessing it was right after the USSR collapse.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:21:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goneshootin:



I listened to her yesterday. that was enough. Someone on the news described it well. It's a horrendous situation these people are dealing with and "She's speaking as if she was on the View".

She has zero leadership skills. No authority in her tone. Total inability to think on her feet and answer tough questions without cackling and repeating herself. The inability to be quick-witted is huge. You either have it or you don't and it's a requirement in those settings. She comes across as a child.

Honestly the US is better off keeping her off the world stage. She does more damage than good. Send someone else. Anyone.
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a very callous, immature child.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:22:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:


I think we are going to see a hardening of resolve amongst the block. This moment is a crisis that has caused a tectonic shift in their individual and collective existence. Europe will have a stronger and more integrated military if they get through this.
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Long term I think it weakens Russia and I won't weep for that, but the western globalist will use it to breath life back into the fractured EU. Ukraine will be subjugated by Brussels instead of Moscow. At this point it may be the lesser of evils, but covid gave us a glimpse of the dystopian future of western globalism.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:22:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DaveyDug:

Yeah, either that dude is enormous or the rest of those guys are Hobbits.
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Originally Posted By DaveyDug:

Yeah, either that dude is enormous or the rest of those guys are Hobbits.


Consider that's possibly a 3'x'5 US Flag..  Puts that guy easily into the 6'7"+ range.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:22:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By x248716x:

maybe a hundred pages ago, there was a blurb about Ukraine requiring a 3-yr contract for foreign fighters.  and never saw anything else on that.  disinformation propaganda?
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The clarification was the contracts were to run untill the end of the conflict, not three years.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:24:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


That is will be the last time those guests are invited on those shows. The TV stations won't dare piss off the state. The narrative is not breaking, it is just taking time to put a stop to all of the dissenting views.
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html


Russia learns the TRUTH: State TV DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war


Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, used an appearance on Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' - a man referred to as Putin's propagandist-in-chief - to call on the Russian president to end the attack, while warning allies like China and India could soon turn their backs on Moscow.

'Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse? There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.'

He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us. 'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.

The Narrative is breaking, Putin will probably do one last desperate attempt to turn the war



That is will be the last time those guests are invited on those shows. The TV stations won't dare piss off the state. The narrative is not breaking, it is just taking time to put a stop to all of the dissenting views.
i wonder if they're going to populate the Gulags again.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:25:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_:
My god . . . troll level 1000.
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Meanwhile somewhere in Russia, Anons are hard at work:
https://t.me/u_now/27630

My god . . . troll level 1000.

Seriously epic.

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Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:26:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_:
My god . . . troll level 1000.
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Probably would have had a little more effect if it was in Russian rather than English.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:26:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:


What are the chances Russia is using these drones that have a similar flight profile to kalibr to try and create another provocation/escalation? Could explain the one that overflew a few NATO nations. NATO thinks a Russian cruise missile or missiles are inbound... I don't know why. I don't know why Russia deciding invading Ukraine was a good idea either.
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By Javak:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Crimea. Russian air defense shot down Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh.  This is like one that crashed into Croatia yesterday.

https://t.me/milinfolive/78443

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122973/Screenshot_from_2022-03-11_09-01-54_png-2309472.JPG

Why does it have a red star, though?



Ukraine does NOT use red stars on aircraft or anything else.


What are the chances Russia is using these drones that have a similar flight profile to kalibr to try and create another provocation/escalation? Could explain the one that overflew a few NATO nations. NATO thinks a Russian cruise missile or missiles are inbound... I don't know why. I don't know why Russia deciding invading Ukraine was a good idea either.



For your question: "I don't know why Russia deciding invading Ukraine was a good idea either." - you need to understand the history of Ukraine and Russia to understand this conflict and even to understand how it will come out militarily. This is a good article:
How Moscow hijacked the history of Kyivan Rus’

As far as Russia trying to start a provocation as an excuse to attack, they are experts at red flags and adhere to Lenin's statement that the lie is sacred. The CIA bio labs bullshit is the latest attempt - they said the same thing when they invaded Georgia. All countries have bio labs - the ones in Ukraine are NOT for creating and releasing biological weapons. I posted photos and other evidence of this a day or two ago.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:27:10 PM EDT
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Given all the RIVETS, Joint Stars, Sentries, and other similar aircraft that have been flying just off the Belarusian border, NATO would know exactly who did it.
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:27:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goneshootin:

UN Security Council Meeting.

The Russians will be giving their chemical weapons evidence presentation https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm
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So does that mean that Russia says the Ukrainians have used chems? If so that opens a lot of, not good, possibilities
Link Posted: 3/11/2022 12:28:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
When Russia went into the Ukraine last month, a shit ton of Russians in Salem, OR, the thuggish kind celebrated at my local gym which has a sauna and jacuzzi, swim pool. They were loud and boisterous.

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Hows that celebration going now? Not so boisterous I bet. Ask them if they believe the 4K KIA totals or the 10K...
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