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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:09:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: I hope they are bringing food, ammo, equipment, vehicles, fuel, tactics and a few spare Generals along with them. Russia doesn't have much to spare. 
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
ARFCOM tells me that the Victoria cross (Carefully crafted from Russian battlefield trash) is a Nazi symbol. MY GOD! Someone tell the queen! |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:12:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOEY9MfWQAYXpH-?format=jpg&name=medium  Am I doing this right? |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: In a thread filled with baffling and idiotic statements, this may be the most baffling and idiotic. The Ukrainian invasion guarantees that all vulnerable states will have to develop nukes because a credible nuclear threat is the ultimate guarantor of survival. Germany, Poland, Japan, South Korea, maybe Taiwan. All of these will acquire nukes ASAP. Nuclear non-proliferation just ended. You don’t get it at all. The very reason NATO hasn’t and can’t help their little sister Ukraine is because if we do it will end in a nuclear exchange. When two opponents got to war they use the tools they have and if equal there are no pulled punches by the losing party. If NATO had no Nukes then there would be zero hesitation in stomping the Orcs. Literally the only reason we haven’t gotten in this fray is because we are nuclear. A pact of nonnuclear countries could gang up on even Russia. Russia would still face nuclear attack by us if they used them but their justification for first use would be gone. Had those stated countries been in a formal alliance Russia would have never invaded Ukraine. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Someone ought to tap Frank Wang on the shoulder. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Hong Kong (CNN Business) China is quietly distancing itself from Russia's sanction-hit economy. The two states proclaimed last month that their friendship had "no limits." That was before Russia launched its war in Ukraine. Now, with Russia's economy being slammed with sanctions from all over the world, there is growing evidence that China's willingness and ability to aid its northern neighbor may be limited. Beijing has refused to condemn Russia's attack on Ukraine but wants to avoid being impacted by the sanctions it has repeatedly denounced as an ineffective way of resolving the crisis. "China is not a party to the [Ukraine] crisis, and doesn't want the sanctions to affect China," Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Tuesday during a phone call with his Spanish counterpart. Beijing also gave its full backing Wednesday to comments made earlier this week by China's ambassador to Ukraine. "China will never attack Ukraine. We will help, especially economically," Fan Xianrong was quoted as saying in a press release from the Lviv regional government. Fears that Chinese companies could face US sanctions over ties with Russia had contributed to an epic sell-off in Chinese stocks recent days. That slump was reversed Wednesday when Beijing promised it would pursue policies to boost its sputtering economy and keep financial markets stable. US officials told CNN on Monday that they have information suggesting China has expressed some openness to providing Russia with requested military and financial assistance. China dismissed that as "disinformation." Analysts say that China is attempting to strike "a delicate balance" between supporting Russia rhetorically but without further antagonizing the United States. Beijing and Moscow share a strategic interest in challenging the West. However, Chinese banks cannot afford to lose access to US dollars, and many Chinese industries cannot afford to be deprived of US technology. Someone ought to tap Frank Wang on the shoulder. I hate the whole cancel culture bullshit, but if there ever was a legitimate purpose for that tactic, hammering the private companies that continue to suck off the Russian tit is number one. I love DJI products, but their behavior needs to be documented and exposed relentlessly. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:18:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Do you think they have any cold weather gear? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I hope they are bringing food, ammo, equipment, vehicles, fuel, tactics and a few spare Generals along with them. Russia doesn't have much to spare. They can get coats from all the dead Russians who don't need them anymore... |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:18:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement is this stupid Q crap... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement is this stupid Q crap... Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: Nah. That's photoshopped, and he's a crisis actor. Am I doing this right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOEY9MfWQAYXpH-?format=jpg&name=medium Am I doing this right? No, that is Fauci's minions deploying the new form of the Vax into the water supply. It's all part of the new green deal. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:21:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:23:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:23:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. 
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:26:13 PM EDT
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According to Ukrinform, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine said this in a statement released on Facebook. "The occupying forces lost their offensive potential and were stopped in all directions. The enemy has significant problems with logistics and continues to suffer losses. In some directions, it blocks units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Since the enemy used almost the entire set of Kalibr sea-based cruise missiles and Iskander tactical missile systems during the first 20 days of the operation, they continue to launch missile and bomb strikes on infrastructure and housing quarters of large cities, using indiscriminate weapons," the ministry said.It added that in violation of international humanitarian law, Russian aggressors continue to take hostage and kill civilians, fire on civilian cars, obstruct the movement of humanitarian convoys to evacuate the population via mutually agreed "green corridors," use civilian infrastructure to store weapons and equipment, and resort to looting. "The enemy continues to keep the Ukrainian city of Mariupol under siege and has switched to the total destruction of civilian infrastructure, residential houses and critical infrastructure, creating the preconditions for deepening the humanitarian crisis in the city," the Defense Ministry added. In order to intimidate the civilian population in the temporarily occupied territories, the invaders abducted and detained representatives of state authorities and local government agencies. Since February 24, Russian troops have been shelling and destroying infrastructure, residential areas of Ukrainian cities and villages using artillery, multiple launch rocket systems and ballistic missiles. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:26:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: Nah. That's photoshopped, and he's a crisis actor. Am I doing this right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOEY9MfWQAYXpH-?format=jpg&name=medium Am I doing this right? LOL its the Chicago river on St Patrick's day |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:27:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: You don't get it at all. The very reason NATO hasn't and can't help their little sister Ukraine is because if we do it will end in a nuclear exchange. When two opponents got to war they use the tools they have and if equal there are no pulled punches by the losing party. If NATO had no Nukes then there would be zero hesitation in stomping the Orcs. Literally the only reason we haven't gotten in this fray is because we are nuclear. A pact of nonnuclear countries could gang up on even Russia. Russia would still face nuclear attack by us if they used them but their justification for first use would be gone. Had those stated countries been in a formal alliance Russia would have never invaded Ukraine. Come to think of it, China and the Soviet Union also fought a limited border war while being nuclear armed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:28:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement is this stupid Q crap... Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. The same link farms that were handing out mysticism, lies, and rubber dogshit during Q are still forming opinions here. They've got their followers spun up and spewing absolute obvious bullshit. Call it what you will. Ironically totally unfocused on things that matter like voter ID and count integrity... but ready to shoot a motherfucker if asked to wear a mask in a store. Want to act like it isn't happening? Be my guest. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:29:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: You don't get it at all. The very reason NATO hasn't and can't help their little sister Ukraine is because if we do it will end in a nuclear exchange. When two opponents got to war they use the tools they have and if equal there are no pulled punches by the losing party. If NATO had no Nukes then there would be zero hesitation in stomping the Orcs. Literally the only reason we haven't gotten in this fray is because we are nuclear. A pact of nonnuclear countries could gang up on even Russia. Russia would still face nuclear attack by us if they used them but their justification for first use would be gone. Had those stated countries been in a formal alliance Russia would have never invaded Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By Capta: In a thread filled with baffling and idiotic statements, this may be the most baffling and idiotic. The Ukrainian invasion guarantees that all vulnerable states will have to develop nukes because a credible nuclear threat is the ultimate guarantor of survival. Germany, Poland, Japan, South Korea, maybe Taiwan. All of these will acquire nukes ASAP. Nuclear non-proliferation just ended. You don't get it at all. The very reason NATO hasn't and can't help their little sister Ukraine is because if we do it will end in a nuclear exchange. When two opponents got to war they use the tools they have and if equal there are no pulled punches by the losing party. If NATO had no Nukes then there would be zero hesitation in stomping the Orcs. Literally the only reason we haven't gotten in this fray is because we are nuclear. A pact of nonnuclear countries could gang up on even Russia. Russia would still face nuclear attack by us if they used them but their justification for first use would be gone. Had those stated countries been in a formal alliance Russia would have never invaded Ukraine. My point? If this continues, I absolutely believe Russia will use WMDs of some sort. I can't see them simply accepting defeat and going home. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:30:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FODuzbaWUAYuwE8?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FODuzbbWUAEUez_?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FODuzbaWQAofY8Q?format=jpg&name=900x900  Spicy. Very very spicy. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:31:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Wonder if theres some sort of attempt on Putin going on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Sorry for the reddit link. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/tggkok/1_of_4_of_putins_personal_jets_has_been_in_the/ Could be shell game time. Putin knows he has enemies. Wants to keep them guessing where he is. Marine One is a helicopter. And there are 3 of them. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:32:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Really? Like all the JFK peeps that showed up in TX a few months ago? You didn't go did you? |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:32:40 PM EDT
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 Ukraine War: Key events on day 21 of the conflict |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:33:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: They can get coats from all the dead Russians who don't need them anymore... "When the man in the front with the coat and rifle falls, you pick up his coat and rifle and continue forward." |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BLKVooDoo: Chechens getting some real toys.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220317-050435_Instagram_jpg-2316318.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220317-050637_Instagram_jpg-2316319.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220317-050713_Instagram_jpg-2316320.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220317-050813_Instagram_jpg-2316321.JPG I hope that chechen c... Sucker ends up having that atn thermal fail and tries calling customer service |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
In before they sink one of their own ships because they don't recognize it.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:35:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement is this stupid Q crap... Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Shh. It's all they've got. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: My thoughts about the whole "Nazis in the Azov battalion": I don't doubt that there were or even are some neo-Nazis. Whether they believe in Nazi ideology or just embrace the symbology is unclear. There are reports of neo-Nazis in the US armed forces and there have been many reports I've seen from German newspapers that the Wehrmacht currently has some issues too that have caused quite a scandal. Then we also have the avowed communist officer from West Point. To be clear: ANYONE who is spouting this extremist ideology is a threat to democracy and a lunatic. NO ONE should be defending these people. What is blurring the lines is people abusing the terms "Commie" and "Nazi". I've been in a bunch or vitriolic arguments here on Arfcom where a ton of people are throwing around the term "Commie" and applying it to anyone who deviates from their version of conservative orthodoxy. The left does the same by calling a bunch of us Nazis. It's all bullshit and created the conundrum we have now. Words mean things and if you start applying incorrect terms to people who don't fit the description, you are cheapening the meaning of the word. Know how outraged you get when someone calls you a "racist" even though you're not? Know how people now ignore when someone is labeled a racist because, more than likely, that person isn't? Same thing here. Start being more circumspect when you start lobbing labels at others you disagree with. I would separate a worldview from a person, but not in a sad way. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Pakistan and India fought a limited border war without nuking each other: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War Come to think of it, China and the Soviet Union also fought a limited border war while being nuclear armed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict Rumor I've heard for ages is that the Soviets used nukes in the sino-soviet war.. let the Chinese take an island in the disputed territory that was one of their nuclear ones and killed a huge number of people. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:39:40 PM EDT
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Still not seeing anything out of Belarus since last night.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: If Europe gets rolled by a nation the economic size of Italy with a larger landmass area they deserve it. England and France together almost outnumber Russia and blow their GDP out of the water. Numerically, the French army should have crushed the Germans in about a week, based on paper TOE tables. Their tanks were even better, and more technologically advanced than the Panzer IIs the the krauts had AND they had more of them. But they simply did not understand how to wield them effectively in a modern combined arms scenario. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:40:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: We'll see. What you're saying is rational, and it make sense. But Russia has resorted to bringing in Syrian mercenaries. Why? Russia sent their A team in, thinking they were going to blitzkrieg right through the country, ran out of gas, ammo, and fighting spirit, and now they're bringing in people from a place where you have to tell people not to wipe their butts with their bare hands. That's not a good sign for Russia. Now we're sending Ukraine weapons that sound like a Call of Duty killstreak, and it's going to get even worse for them. My point? If this continues, I absolutely believe Russia will use WMDs of some sort. I can't see them simply accepting defeat and going home. I think for russia, chemical weapons are definitely on the table. I **hope** they can find a way to tactically withdraw and declare victory before they feel chemical weapons are necessary in order to avoid embarrassment. Bleed, russia. Bleed. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Still not seeing anything out of Belarus since last night. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Russian troops used almost the entire set of Kalibr cruise missiles and Iskander tactical missile systems. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: According to Ukrinform, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine said this in a statement released on Facebook. "The occupying forces lost their offensive potential and were stopped in all directions. The enemy has significant problems with logistics and continues to suffer losses. In some directions, it blocks units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Since the enemy used almost the entire set of Kalibr sea-based cruise missiles and Iskander tactical missile systems during the first 20 days of the operation, they continue to launch missile and bomb strikes on infrastructure and housing quarters of large cities, using indiscriminate weapons," the ministry said.It added that in violation of international humanitarian law, Russian aggressors continue to take hostage and kill civilians, fire on civilian cars, obstruct the movement of humanitarian convoys to evacuate the population via mutually agreed "green corridors," use civilian infrastructure to store weapons and equipment, and resort to looting. "The enemy continues to keep the Ukrainian city of Mariupol under siege and has switched to the total destruction of civilian infrastructure, residential houses and critical infrastructure, creating the preconditions for deepening the humanitarian crisis in the city," the Defense Ministry added. In order to intimidate the civilian population in the temporarily occupied territories, the invaders abducted and detained representatives of state authorities and local government agencies. Since February 24, Russian troops have been shelling and destroying infrastructure, residential areas of Ukrainian cities and villages using artillery, multiple launch rocket systems and ballistic missiles. 200,000 troops is not an invasion force for a country of 44 million |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:43:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHundreds of thousands.  That seige needs to be broken. Russians consider civilians deaths just as useful as enemy combatant deaths.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:44:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Pakistan and India fought a limited border war without nuking each other: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War Come to think of it, China and the Soviet Union also fought a limited border war while being nuclear armed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict True, China and India are still killing each other in small numbers over a border dispute. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:44:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif GOOD. Germany needs to get over their historical angst and start playing a larger and more constructive role in their own back yard.  There is no one aside perhaps from the French who have a a greater responsibility on their own continent.  It just kind of reminded me of this Polandball cartoon which I thought was hilarious... |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:46:03 PM EDT
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Koch Industries statement - Russia would nationalize their factories and take all the profits, so by not withdrawing from Russia they actually hurt Russia, get it? Also, the KGB might shoot their Russian workforce or something, I dunno.
The horrific and abhorrent aggression against Ukraine is an affront to humanity... Koch company Guardian Industries operates two glass manufacturing facilities in Russia that employ about 600 people. We have no other physical assets in Russia, and outside of Guardian, employ 15 individuals in the country. While Guardian's business in Russia is a very small part of Koch, we will not walk away from our employees there or hand over these manufacturing facilities to the Russian government so it can operate and benefit from them (which is what The Wall Street Journal has reported they would do). Doing so would only put our employees there at greater risk and do more harm than good. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:46:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: weptek911]
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Never mind, don’t want to derail the thread
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:46:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I think for russia, chemical weapons are definitely on the table. I **hope** they can find a way to tactically withdraw and declare victory before they feel chemical weapons are necessary in order to avoid embarrassment. Bleed, russia. Bleed. Negotiations will have allow Russian pride to come into play because they won’t run off with their tales between their legs. Ukrainian leaders will need to agree to not pursuing NATO and political neutrality. If Russia will take that. Otherwise Russia will just keep throwing bodies at it and will win through attrition. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:47:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ghostmonkey]
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With all the drone tech being used I'm surprised people aren't strapping mines or explosives onto rc cars and driving them into the Russians.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: We'll see. What you're saying is rational, and it make sense. But Russia has resorted to bringing in Syrian mercenaries. Why? Russia sent their A team in, thinking they were going to blitzkrieg right through the country, ran out of gas, ammo, and fighting spirit, and now they're bringing in people from a place where you have to tell people not to wipe their butts with their bare hands. That's not a good sign for Russia. Now we're sending Ukraine weapons that sound like a Call of Duty killstreak, and it's going to get even worse for them. My point? If this continues, I absolutely believe Russia will use WMDs of some sort. I can't see them simply accepting defeat and going home. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By Capta: In a thread filled with baffling and idiotic statements, this may be the most baffling and idiotic. The Ukrainian invasion guarantees that all vulnerable states will have to develop nukes because a credible nuclear threat is the ultimate guarantor of survival. Germany, Poland, Japan, South Korea, maybe Taiwan. All of these will acquire nukes ASAP. Nuclear non-proliferation just ended. You don't get it at all. The very reason NATO hasn't and can't help their little sister Ukraine is because if we do it will end in a nuclear exchange. When two opponents got to war they use the tools they have and if equal there are no pulled punches by the losing party. If NATO had no Nukes then there would be zero hesitation in stomping the Orcs. Literally the only reason we haven't gotten in this fray is because we are nuclear. A pact of nonnuclear countries could gang up on even Russia. Russia would still face nuclear attack by us if they used them but their justification for first use would be gone. Had those stated countries been in a formal alliance Russia would have never invaded Ukraine. My point? If this continues, I absolutely believe Russia will use WMDs of some sort. I can't see them simply accepting defeat and going home. If your scenario is true, and you believe that Russia will use WMDs just for getting a black eye from Ukraine, then what do you think will happen when NATO rolls in and absolutely obliterates 80% of Russia's entire army (that's what would happen), leaving their military combat ineffective and Russia completely defenseless? Do you think that would cause them to turn their 2000+ warheads towards Europe and the US? |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Negotiations will have allow Russian pride to come into play because they won't run off with their tales between their legs. Ukrainian leaders will need to agree to not pursuing NATO and political neutrality. If Russia will take that. Otherwise Russia will just keep throwing bodies at it and will win through attrition. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By stone-age: I think for russia, chemical weapons are definitely on the table. I **hope** they can find a way to tactically withdraw and declare victory before they feel chemical weapons are necessary in order to avoid embarrassment. Bleed, russia. Bleed. Negotiations will have allow Russian pride to come into play because they won't run off with their tales between their legs. Ukrainian leaders will need to agree to not pursuing NATO and political neutrality. If Russia will take that. Otherwise Russia will just keep throwing bodies at it and will win through attrition. Russia doesn't have close to endless bodies to throw; they're already asking Arabs for help. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement is this stupid Q crap... Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. That's because you but mostly others left a really deep impression on this board by how hard you were pushing the Q koolaid and brow beating anyone that dare question it. How could all of them turn their backs on something they believe in so strongly? Also the Q crap is still around, look at what Rep Greene was saying. I still see other far right people parroting that type of thing. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:52:05 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Koch Industries statement - Russia would nationalize their factories and take all the profits, so by not withdrawing from Russia they actually hurt Russia, get it? Also, the KGB might shoot their Russian workforce or something, I dunno. The horrific and abhorrent aggression against Ukraine is an affront to humanity... Koch company Guardian Industries operates two glass manufacturing facilities in Russia that employ about 600 people. We have no other physical assets in Russia, and outside of Guardian, employ 15 individuals in the country. While Guardian's business in Russia is a very small part of Koch, we will not walk away from our employees there or hand over these manufacturing facilities to the Russian government so it can operate and benefit from them (which is what The Wall Street Journal has reported they would do). Doing so would only put our employees there at greater risk and do more harm than good. - Gordon Gekko |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:52:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement is this stupid Q crap... Guys, "Q" has been over for more than a year and a half. Hillary running a secret server, a Russian Hoax to try and trap Trump, and corruption in government are not dependent on "Q". The only ones still bringing up "Q" are you all. Tell the Q-quacks it's over then. The ones who latch onto anything conspiracy wise are the ones who keep bringing it up |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:52:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Other than the far left...the most dangerous movement Fixt |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:55:21 PM EDT
[#47]
I bet there is a thread some of you can find to continue the bullshit talk, take it out of here before your goose is cooked.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Eh. Even NBC says they've got Nazi problems. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946 Multiple things can be happening at the same time. Propaganda works because there is a kernel of truth in it. Might be interesting to see how some of the 'Nazi' fighters react if Zelensky wants to pin a medal on them. I am retarded and ignorant, but first of all, I don't consider fucking the cars explode when we rig them too so they are defective NBC as any kind of reliable trustworthy source and second of all, we have Nazis here, too. I bet their Nazi issue is way less than ours, and our Nazis are totally lame. Three old dudes and 14 various alphabet agency agents at meetings kind of stuff. And we never had any Nazi invasions except those saboteurs that were all caught and executed early on. The Brits turned EVERY SINGLE ONE of the Nazi agents into doubles. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:56:54 PM EDT
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For real can you Q discussions go make your own damn thread? I don't give a fuck.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 3:57:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Ukraine will be well fertilized then. Russia doesn't have close to endless bodies to throw; they're already asking Arabs for help. We know that but Putin doesn’t care. He is insane. |
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