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Some 130 people have been rescued so far from the rubble of a theater that was being used as a shelter in the besieged city of Mariupol when it was destroyed in a Russian strike, a Ukrainian official said Friday. Ukraine's human rights commissioner Lyudmyla Denisova said in a Facebook post that rescue work at the Mariupol Drama Theatre is ongoing as some 1,300 people are believed to still be trapped. However, rescue efforts have been hampered by continued fighting. There have not yet been any reports of deaths in the wake of the Wednesday strike on the building in the besieged city. Hundreds of civilians had been taking shelter in the grand, columned theater in central Mariupol after their homes were destroyed in three weeks of fighting in the southern port city of 430,000. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: AND THIS IS NOT THREAD SLIDING AS THIS KIND OF BS IS ALREADY AFFECTING VOTES IN CONGRESS BY INFLUENCING REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO SUPPORT MILITARY AID UKRAINE AND TO FAVOR RUSSIA. View Quote Agreed. Recognizing and calling out Russian propaganda to prevent its effects on the conflict is countering another Russian strategy prong, simply on a different front than a Ukrainian battlefield. If anyone feels this thread needs to be solely about explosions, destroyed vehicles, and dead bodies, perhaps they need to go grab some popcorn and watch the Michael Bay movie of their choice instead because this is the real world. |
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Originally Posted By TheFaz: Seriously, posting an almost ten day old "analysis" of why the Russians are winning and how bold and awesome it was for the Russian leadership to try and overthrow the current liberal order? Give me a break. Notice the guy hasn't posted any updates since then, which is smart considering how far off base he was in this supposedly insightful essay. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheFaz: Originally Posted By blackriflefan10: A very insightful and cogent analysis of what's happening and why. Long read, yes. Too much for the meme lords here, maybe. https://cartographer.substack.com/p/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-day-12?s=r Seriously, posting an almost ten day old "analysis" of why the Russians are winning and how bold and awesome it was for the Russian leadership to try and overthrow the current liberal order? Give me a break. Notice the guy hasn't posted any updates since then, which is smart considering how far off base he was in this supposedly insightful essay. Plus 1 |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
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A video address by Hollywood actor Arnold Schwarzenegger to the Russian people was trending on Russian Twitter on Friday and has sparked reaction. In it, Schwarzenegger warns Russians they are being fed misinformation about their country's assault on Ukraine. Addressing Russian President Vladimir Putin directly, he says: "You started this war, and you can stop it". His intervention has been praised by Russians who oppose the war in Ukraine. Writing on the Telegram app, opposition politician Lev Shlosberg said it had been filmed "with respect towards us, Russian people". "Arnold Schwarzenegger has a unique ability to talk to anyone with persuasion, respect and on equal terms. Wits, power and justice. Have a listen. Think about it. Understand," Mr Shlosberg said. Also on Telegram, liberal journalist Anton Orekh said his message contained no "Russophobia". "We are outcasts in the world.. Arnold is one of the few people who addressed Russians not as savage orcs, but as good people who have lost their ways," Mr Orekh said. But a pro-Kremlin spoof account, Barack Obmana on Twitter, derided it, saying "the opinion of paid US talking heads" mattered little to Russians. Russia has consistently said the war in Ukraine was a "special operation" to protect Russian-speaking Ukrainians. But in his video, Schwarzenegger said the Kremlin was lying to Russians when it said the invasion was intended to "denazify" Ukraine. Ukraine did not start the war, but "those in power in the Kremlin" did, he said. By 13:00 GMT the video had been viewed nearly 25m times and had been retweeted 325,000 times. View Quote |
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Conservative Sympathy for Russia in Ukraine War an Exercise in Cognitive Dissonance
How one of the greatest examples of why a populace should own military weapons is getting ignored by some on the right. @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz |
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger: I’m old enough that I got that reference. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HiramRanger: Originally Posted By nickmemphis: Originally Posted By HIPPO: They don’t have a 1:1 for the 1 star rank, so in a way yes some are flagged as COL but performing as a General in their role. They are sometimes corporal captains, but I always write down one opposed, one against, in the officers club. I’m old enough that I got that reference. Does the captain want a straw? |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Separately, Russia announced export limits (posted earlier in thread). Without wheat imports, Africa & Mideast have big problems. Putin knows this. Long term, there will be another wave of mass migration as people flee famine and food shortages in Africa & Mideast, and they'll all be headed to Europe & America. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: With Ukraine being a major exporter of wheat, you'd think this would be a major concern for the whole world. Ukraine war: Russia blocks ships carrying grain exports "Up to 300 ships have been stopped by Russian forces from departing the Black Sea, leaving one of the key global trade routes for grain virtually blocked. The fertile region is known as 'the world's breadbasket.'" They can't seriously expect to get away with this for very long. Separately, Russia announced export limits (posted earlier in thread). Without wheat imports, Africa & Mideast have big problems. Putin knows this. Long term, there will be another wave of mass migration as people flee famine and food shortages in Africa & Mideast, and they'll all be headed to Europe & America. Yes, he is 100% going to leverage that and so is China (who has been stockpiling for 2 years). If we take Russia, China, and Ukraine out of the mix its almost 30% of global wheat production. Worldwide Wheat Production The global trade of wheat is greater than all other crops combined. In 2017, the total global production of wheat was 772 million tons. It is the second-most produced cereal grain behind maize. Based on 2017 data, the European Union is the largest producer of wheat, producing 150.2 million metric tons of wheat. China, India, and Russia, the three largest wheat producers, account for about 41% of the world’s total wheat production. Here are the 10 countries with the most wheat production: China (134.3 million metric tons) India (98.5 million metric tons) Russia (85.9 million metric tons) United States (47.3 million metric tons) France (36.9 million metric tons) Australia (31.8 million metric tons) Canada (30 million metric tons) Pakistan (26.7 million metric tons) Ukraine (26.2 million metric tons) Germany (24.5 million metric tons) |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Conservative Sympathy for Russia in Ukraine War an Exercise in Cognitive Dissonance How one of the greatest examples of why a populace should own military weapons is getting ignored by some on the right. https://content.osgnetworks.tv/firearmsnews/content/photos/americans-taking-sides-in-ukraine-1200x800.jpg @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz View Quote |
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Originally Posted By pr24guy: What is that, like 5 or 6 top Generals? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/picard-UhOh-339.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By pr24guy: Originally Posted By ecophon:
Apologies if it's a repeat. What is that, like 5 or 6 top Generals? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/picard-UhOh-339.gif This one was a Colonel. |
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Originally Posted By atavistic: Looking for a McDonalds drive thru with a working ice cream machine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By atavistic: Originally Posted By Chokey:
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Originally Posted By Chaingun: That or trying to find better cell phone coverage to report in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By atavistic: Originally Posted By Chokey:
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Conservative Sympathy for Russia in Ukraine War an Exercise in Cognitive Dissonance How one of the greatest examples of why a populace should own military weapons is getting ignored by some on the right. https://content.osgnetworks.tv/firearmsnews/content/photos/americans-taking-sides-in-ukraine-1200x800.jpg @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz View Quote That's a good read. |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Conservative Sympathy for Russia in Ukraine War an Exercise in Cognitive Dissonance How one of the greatest examples of why a populace should own military weapons is getting ignored by some on the right. https://content.osgnetworks.tv/firearmsnews/content/photos/americans-taking-sides-in-ukraine-1200x800.jpg @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz View Quote I agree but not the thread for it and it’s clear the derpy right has lost its mind. How that affects America and the world in the near future will be decided in 200some days when you have Midterms. ETA: author has a Romanian or Moldovan last name,he likely has a more direct connection to understanding totalitarianism than many but do not know him or his background. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Agreed. Recognizing and calling out Russian propaganda to prevent its effects on the conflict is countering another Russian strategy prong, simply on a different front than a Ukrainian battlefield. If anyone feels this thread needs to be solely about explosions, destroyed vehicles, and dead bodies, perhaps they need to go grab some popcorn and watch the Michael Bay movie of their choice instead because this is the real world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: AND THIS IS NOT THREAD SLIDING AS THIS KIND OF BS IS ALREADY AFFECTING VOTES IN CONGRESS BY INFLUENCING REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO SUPPORT MILITARY AID UKRAINE AND TO FAVOR RUSSIA. Agreed. Recognizing and calling out Russian propaganda to prevent its effects on the conflict is countering another Russian strategy prong, simply on a different front than a Ukrainian battlefield. If anyone feels this thread needs to be solely about explosions, destroyed vehicles, and dead bodies, perhaps they need to go grab some popcorn and watch the Michael Bay movie of their choice instead because this is the real world. Double drivel. Read this link and tell me how any of it smacks of pro-Russian propaganda: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-news-and-developments-ukraine-war-march-18 You are welcome to gargle all the urine the MSM pumps out. Since we already know what the MSM pumps out is agenda-driven, it can be safely discarded. Why would anyone that is discerning enough to see thru the MSM BS not do the same for any other web site? Claiming ZeroHedge is a Russian mouthpiece is just stupid. Claiming the MSM is pure as the driven snow is equally stupid. Use your brain and discern for yourself what is truth and what is not regardless of what web site it comes from. |
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Originally Posted By outofbattery: Remember when Ukrainians were brother people who unfortunately came under the control of a small number of Nazis? It was only a few weeks ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Remember when Ukrainians were brother people who unfortunately came under the control of a small number of Nazis? It was only a few weeks ago. Reminds me of the nazi party rally grounds in Nuremberg Germany Nuremberg nazi party rally grounds |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Three weeks into Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, Russian forces appear to be suffering from shortages, and commanders are struggling to sustain their troops in combat, a Pentagon official said Thursday. Russian advances largely remain stalled, making minimal progress in terms of ground movement as Ukrainian forces continue to put up determined resistance, a senior U.S. defense official told reporters in an update, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Putin's forces are "basically frozen around the country on multiple lines of axes, struggling to fuel themselves and to feed their troops and to supply them with arms and ammunition," the person said. The senior official with the U.S. Department of Defense said that Russia appears to now be relying more on so-called "dumb" bombs than on precision-guided munitions in its full-scale offensive against Ukrainesomething that could indicate Russia could be suffering shortages and sustainment issues Hopefully we can’t keep repeating that forever. At some point we have to have them break. |
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@Dagger41 @Bravo_Six Here's the cockpit footage w/o having to use the Telegram app. View Quote Thanks @toaster ! |
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Originally Posted By outofbattery: Ridiculously bad Russian pro war propaganda
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As rumours of martial law spread across Russia in early March, some young men abruptly left their homeland, fearing they would be conscripted and sent to the battlefield in Ukraine. They are among thousands of people who have fled Russia since February 24, as a crackdown grows on anti-war sentiment. Ivan*, 17, flew to Turkey on Monday from Russia. "I don't think it's normal that in the 21st century, a person can be taken against their will to serve in the army for an entire year. Right now conscripts are being sent to the front line, and I am categorically against the 'military operation' carried out by my country," he told Al Jazeera, ironically using the state-approved terminology for the war. After initially insisting that only professional soldiers were fighting in Ukraine, Russia's defence ministry has since admitted conscripts have been deployed, with some captured or killed. Russia has had a system of conscription since tsarist times, when recruits could be press-ganged into service for up to 15 years. But modern conscription dates back to the Soviet era. Every able-bodied man aged 18-27, in theory, has to serve one year, and draft-dodgers face heavy fines and up to two years' imprisonment. Students, convicts, and family members of killed soldiers are exempt, while single fathers and carers for disabled family members can have their service deferred. And in practice, others have before been able to skip conscription. Those who had the means could avoid the draft by paying bribes, showing doctors' letters proving they were medically unfit, feigning insanity or falsifying university attendance. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By planemaker: Double drivel. Read this link and tell me how any of it smacks of pro-Russian propaganda: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-news-and-developments-ukraine-war-march-18 You are welcome to gargle all the urine the MSM pumps out. Since we already know what the MSM pumps out is agenda-driven, it can be safely discarded. Why would anyone that is discerning enough to see thru the MSM BS not do the same for any other web site? Claiming ZeroHedge is a Russian mouthpiece is just stupid. Claiming the MSM is pure as the driven snow is equally stupid. Use your brain and discern for yourself what is truth and what is not regardless of what web site it comes from. View Quote Yeah, read this one cherry-picked link that's nothing but bullet-points! Then go read the main Zero Hedge page and it's hand-wringing over Biden, Putin's statements blaming the west, western economy is horrible, etc. |
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Please please please scene from. Sum of all feara View Quote SOAF is probably the worst example of an assraped Clancy story in a movie ever. That a hell of an achievement, since the only one that was ever reasonably close to the book was Red October. Every other, including but not limited to, the Amazon series abortion, could have saved money and just bought the character names, since apparently they are only interested in the story in a completely abstract sense. What if Abraham Lincoln was a gender confused black woman/man/they sporting a purple hair do with a leprechaun phobia, but also a dedicated militant Hindu in an Amish commune where dancing is forbidden? |
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The Vladimir Putin show: Strongman holds a huge rally in front of tens of thousands of 'Z' flag-waving Russians in World Cup stadium and hails success of Ukraine 'special operation' while calling for 'a world without Nazism'
Hosts wear a 'Z' on their coats as they present the celebration event. The 'Z' has become a symbol of pro-Russian nationalism since Putin launched his brutal invasion, as it is painted on many of Moscow's military vehicles Crowds are seen outside the stadium on Friday. Moscow police said more than 200,000 people were in and around the Luzhniki stadium for the rally Continued |
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Major thread derailment inbound! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Conservative Sympathy for Russia in Ukraine War an Exercise in Cognitive Dissonance How one of the greatest examples of why a populace should own military weapons is getting ignored by some on the right. https://content.osgnetworks.tv/firearmsnews/content/photos/americans-taking-sides-in-ukraine-1200x800.jpg @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz Propoganda is part of war BUT feel free to comment here on this article instead of on this thread. |
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Originally Posted By outofbattery: I agree but not the thread for it and it’s clear the derpy right has lost its mind. How that affects America and the world in the near future will be decided in 200some days when you have Midterms. ETA: author has a Romanian or Moldovan last name,he likely has a more direct connection to understanding totalitarianism than many but do not know him or his background. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Conservative Sympathy for Russia in Ukraine War an Exercise in Cognitive Dissonance How one of the greatest examples of why a populace should own military weapons is getting ignored by some on the right. https://content.osgnetworks.tv/firearmsnews/content/photos/americans-taking-sides-in-ukraine-1200x800.jpg @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz I agree but not the thread for it and it’s clear the derpy right has lost its mind. How that affects America and the world in the near future will be decided in 200some days when you have Midterms. ETA: author has a Romanian or Moldovan last name,he likely has a more direct connection to understanding totalitarianism than many but do not know him or his background. According to polling, though, this isn't really a broad thing. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/15/public-expresses-mixed-views-of-u-s-response-to-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/ Conservative Republicans are more likely to say the US isn't doing enough for Ukraine. |
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Yes, he is 100% going to leverage that and so is China (who has been stockpiling for 2 years). If we take Russia, China, and Ukraine out of the mix its almost 30% of global wheat production. Worldwide Wheat Production The global trade of wheat is greater than all other crops combined. In 2017, the total global production of wheat was 772 million tons. It is the second-most produced cereal grain behind maize. Based on 2017 data, the European Union is the largest producer of wheat, producing 150.2 million metric tons of wheat. China, India, and Russia, the three largest wheat producers, account for about 41% of the world’s total wheat production. Here are the 10 countries with the most wheat production: China (134.3 million metric tons) India (98.5 million metric tons) Russia (85.9 million metric tons) United States (47.3 million metric tons) France (36.9 million metric tons) Australia (31.8 million metric tons) Canada (30 million metric tons) Pakistan (26.7 million metric tons) Ukraine (26.2 million metric tons) Germany (24.5 million metric tons) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: With Ukraine being a major exporter of wheat, you'd think this would be a major concern for the whole world. Ukraine war: Russia blocks ships carrying grain exports "Up to 300 ships have been stopped by Russian forces from departing the Black Sea, leaving one of the key global trade routes for grain virtually blocked. The fertile region is known as 'the world's breadbasket.'" They can't seriously expect to get away with this for very long. Separately, Russia announced export limits (posted earlier in thread). Without wheat imports, Africa & Mideast have big problems. Putin knows this. Long term, there will be another wave of mass migration as people flee famine and food shortages in Africa & Mideast, and they'll all be headed to Europe & America. Yes, he is 100% going to leverage that and so is China (who has been stockpiling for 2 years). If we take Russia, China, and Ukraine out of the mix its almost 30% of global wheat production. Worldwide Wheat Production The global trade of wheat is greater than all other crops combined. In 2017, the total global production of wheat was 772 million tons. It is the second-most produced cereal grain behind maize. Based on 2017 data, the European Union is the largest producer of wheat, producing 150.2 million metric tons of wheat. China, India, and Russia, the three largest wheat producers, account for about 41% of the world’s total wheat production. Here are the 10 countries with the most wheat production: China (134.3 million metric tons) India (98.5 million metric tons) Russia (85.9 million metric tons) United States (47.3 million metric tons) France (36.9 million metric tons) Australia (31.8 million metric tons) Canada (30 million metric tons) Pakistan (26.7 million metric tons) Ukraine (26.2 million metric tons) Germany (24.5 million metric tons) Seems like what each country produces isn't as important as how much they export. The theory is you would only export that which you didn't need back home. Since Russia, US, Canada, France, and Ukraine are the top 5 exporters (with Germany at #7 and Poland at #10), the impact of the war (and sanctions) on wheat availability is going to be significant. If the war broadens to include Europe as a whole, then wheat exports are going to crater. That will broaden the problems this conflict is causing to a lot of countries around the world. |
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Note some of the other tweets in that thread.
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: How many countries will you be okay with Putin taking before calling his bluff? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By Consigli: Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
This will continue. Our nukes are a deterrent, but Biden isn't. He won't ever use them, and they know it. Can you explain to me--in coherent terms--why you are willing to start a nuclear war to prevent Russia from having too much political influence in Ukraine? How many countries will you be okay with Putin taking before calling his bluff? Given the reported performance of the Russian military in this instance, how many countries do you think they would be able to take? I'm guessing none. What is your answer? |
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: https://i.postimg.cc/nr2svCnT/FOHZ-hb-WYAYw-B-8.jpg Warheads on foreheads View Quote Surely they don't launch and recover that thing by hand. Trying to catch a flying Cuisinart is profoundly dumb. It could be he's getting ready to re-calibrate the magnetometers on board by doing the mag-cal dance. (It's pretty common and also a PITA.) |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Not crazy about Turkey all of a sudden being treated like a special ally. Erdogan is the exact same kind of authoritatrian that Putin is. He's done the same exact thing: Silenced critics, declared himself President for life, replaced the judiciary with yes-men, etc. This is not a good deal. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By brahm: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Hitler is always the example brought up of appeasement leading to greater aggressiveness. I've never heard another example used. I'm curious what other examples there are where this has happened? gun control. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: None of the ZeroHedge fanboys took my challenge that Zerohedge.com pushes Russian narratives and THE challenge was: - do a count on pro-Ukraine articles over the last month - do a count on pro-Russia articles over the last month - do a count on articles you feel are balanced/neutral regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine over the last month Give us a list of the articles with a final count. Since no one did here are some from the other week (and I've read ZeroHedge for about a decade by the way): https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/donbas-rebel-leaders-formally-urge-immediate-russian-military-assistance https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/praise-ukrainian-neo-nazi-battalion-given-green-light-facebook-intercept - there are Jews in Azov and Right Sektor (Jewish leadership and special Jewish RS patch) and I posted three times proof and info here. Jewish President Zelensky supports Azov as do other Jewish leaders in Ukraine . By the way, Ukraine is the only country in the world, besides Israel, to have had a Jewish president and prime minister at the same time. Funny how Tyler never mentioned that. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-not-explain-ukraine-crisis If you can't identify the Russian/Kremlin talking points in those three articles you must have very poor understanding of: this conflict, the history of both nations, Russian propaganda, and the politics behind it. US Accuses Financial Website of Spreading Russian Propaganda - NEWSMAX: NEWSMAX... https://www.newsmax.com/money-wire/russian-propaganda-zero-hedge/2022/02/15/id/1056867/ AND THIS IS NOT THREAD SLIDING AS THIS KIND OF BS IS ALREADY AFFECTING VOTES IN CONGRESS BY INFLUENCING REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO SUPPORT MILITARY AID UKRAINE AND TO FAVOR RUSSIA. AT LEAST FOUR "PATRIOT" CONSERVATIVE CONGRESSMAN VOTED THIS WAY YESTERDAY AND ALL/MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN GUESTS ON ALEX JONES, TUCKER CARLSON, ETC. AND THEY ALL POST NEWS FROM ALTERNATIVE RIGHT NEWS SITES WHICH HAVE BEEN USING RT NEWS FOR MANY DECADES. INFO WARS CONSTANTLY RUNS BULLSHIT "HISTORY" (DOUBLE VERIFIED LOL!) ARTICLES ON UKRAINE WHICH ARE BOGUS IF ONE HAS STUDIED UKRAINIAN HISTORY - THEY ARE GREAT AT TWISTING THE TRUTH AND LEAVING OUT FACTS. THE ONLY MOTIVE THAT SOME OF THESE WEBSITES HAVE TO RELENTLESSLY DEFEND RUSSIA IS THAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID TO DO SO AND THEY ARE NOT REAL CONSERVATIVES BUT GREAT SHOWMEN/ACTORS - JUST USING HONEYPOT TOPICS LIKE: 2A, PREPPER/SURVIVALIST INFO, ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE, GLOBALIST HISTORY, FREE SPEECH, AND OTHER TOPICS TO SUCK IN CONSERVATIVES. Thoughts? @Ryan_Ruck @outofbattery @Shenanigunz View Quote Could you please post something about the Jewish right sector and patch? |
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Originally Posted By realwar: The Vladimir Putin show: Strongman holds a huge rally in front of tens of thousands of 'Z' flag-waving Russians in World Cup stadium and hails success of Ukraine 'special operation' while calling for 'a world without Nazism' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/13/55516083-10627555-image-a-40_1647611400719.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/13/55516081-10627555-image-a-37_1647611379125.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/14/55517347-10627555-image-a-54_1647613477671.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/13/55516091-10627555-image-a-47_1647611781257.jpg Hosts wear a 'Z' on their coats as they present the celebration event. The 'Z' has become a symbol of pro-Russian nationalism since Putin launched his brutal invasion, as it is painted on many of Moscow's military vehicles https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/13/55516301-10627555-image-a-45_1647611718868.jpg Crowds are seen outside the stadium on Friday. Moscow police said more than 200,000 people were in and around the Luzhniki stadium for the rally https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/10/55509053-10626549-image-m-13_1647597702933.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/18/13/55509055-10626549-A_man_with_a_cat_evacuates_from_a_building_damaged_by_shelling_a-a-3_1647610608746.jpg Continued View Quote I know you can point to examples from covid and the summer of love, but this just seems on a whole different level since their "reality" is so far from the truth, and much more widespread it seems. |
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"the science" /duh si-ens/ noun: progressive postmodern religious dogma not based in tested hypothesis or facts used to advance an authoritative political ideology
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Originally Posted By Eight_Ring: Given the reported performance of the Russian military in this instance, how many countries do you think they would be able to take? I'm guessing none. What is your answer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By Consigli: Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
This will continue. Our nukes are a deterrent, but Biden isn't. He won't ever use them, and they know it. Can you explain to me--in coherent terms--why you are willing to start a nuclear war to prevent Russia from having too much political influence in Ukraine? How many countries will you be okay with Putin taking before calling his bluff? Given the reported performance of the Russian military in this instance, how many countries do you think they would be able to take? I'm guessing none. What is your answer? Wait, but I thought you didn't want to stand up to them and risk nuclear war? With YOUR game plan they can take all the countries. Which is it? Resist and risk nukes, or roll over and let them take what they want? Remember he's already threatened nukes without even direct involvement from NATO. |
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Originally Posted By nickmemphis: I am no genius by any stretch, but I am one inqusitive curious sumbitch, worse than a killed cat, so I sure would love to to hear a cogent explanation of the endgame here. I mean what the fuck FVP is thinking. I am more or less insane and retarded myself, as you all well know, probably, and I can't think of one even in a world where you can buy unobtainium sponge at the corner grocery. And sans sarcasm, I am genuinely curious. I am fond of hypothetical thought experiments just to enhance my neural net, if for no other reason. Flowers For Motherfucking Algernon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nickmemphis: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: That's why it's such a dilemma. It's a lose-lose-lose situation. They cannot advance, they cannot leave and they cannot stand in one place, do nothing. There are no good outcomes. The best one would be an internal revolt, Oligarchs appointing another head of state in Kremlin but that's doubtful (but not impossible). I am no genius by any stretch, but I am one inqusitive curious sumbitch, worse than a killed cat, so I sure would love to to hear a cogent explanation of the endgame here. I mean what the fuck FVP is thinking. I am more or less insane and retarded myself, as you all well know, probably, and I can't think of one even in a world where you can buy unobtainium sponge at the corner grocery. And sans sarcasm, I am genuinely curious. I am fond of hypothetical thought experiments just to enhance my neural net, if for no other reason. Flowers For Motherfucking Algernon. Putin though this would be a repeat of Georgia, the Crimea, and the other "little adventures" that Russia has engaged in over the last couple of decades - the West would bitch and moan for a few weeks/months and then we'd forget. What he totally missed is that the West figured out over the last year that we could finally finish the Russian problem if we just armed the Ukrainians and let nature take its course. Now Russia literally has a tiger by the tail - they can't deal with the tiger and they sure as hell can't let go. The problem is that objective reality cannot be ignored in the end. And Russia is finding out that reality is one stone cold bitch. What *no one* saw was the global cancellation of Russia as a country. if you ahve told me 2 months ago that McDonalds, BP, Shell, Microsoft, Oracle, Dell, and pretty much every western company would just up and walk out of Russia I would have called you a loon. But here we are . . . Putin saw NONE of this - because he surrounded himself with people that were too frightened to tell him the truth. He is now facing the consequences of the very system that he helped to create. He is the living incarnation of Pahom from "How much Land Does a Man Need" by Leo Tolstoy - "Six feet from his head to his heels was all he needed." - Link to the story. It's worth a read . . . |
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"This is the Way"
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Speaking of propaganda...
BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese President Xi Jinping told his U.S. counterpart Joe Biden on Friday that conflicts and confrontations such as the events unfolding in Ukraine are in the interests of no-one, according to Chinese state media. State-to-state relations cannot advance to the stage of confrontation, and conflicts and confrontations are not in the interests of anyone, Xi told Biden on a video call. "The Ukraine crisis is something that we don't want to see," said Xi. Xi said China and the United States must guide bilateral relations along the right track, and both sides should also shoulder due international responsibilities and make efforts for world peace. View Quote |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By GreenMushroom: Like peace keeping or "peace keeping" View Quote Wife is off the boat Polish from Warsaw. Does not like Ukrainians and abject hatred for Russians. Polish peacekeeping means a good chance of handing out some ass kicking to restore “Poland sea to sea” I think this is a bad idea |
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