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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:17:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:17:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:17:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mnd6563: Forcing civilians to the front lines like in Stalingrad...  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Sweden,thinking it’s somehow a good idea to put a bunch of women and girls in any sort of proximity to those that nobody is allowed to say are Arabs but we all know are Arabs 🤦🏼♂️ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/AEBA9980-7B97-4AAB-8F88-D1CB40E66315_jpe-2319473.JPG Prison shank a mfer and flush the evidence. Only need to do it the once. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:18:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Bullcrap. I had the original tactical wheelbarrow back in 2014. It comes complete with Squirt and Dr. Pepper. Then again, a PK is a serious upgrade in firepower. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38579/63568.JPG DK is yer gunner? 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Forcing civilians to the front lines like in Stalingrad...
How naive. Does anyone really think the Russian higher ups will allow themselves to be arrested and tried before they nuke the rest of the world? On the off chance Putin is deposed and a radically different government emerges, sure. Otherwise, there will be no trials. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:19:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CPT1-285TH]
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In on 1200
https://i.imgur.com/kRkiJ9d.gif Rumors of Russians forcing civilians into military service in eastern Ukraine is disturbing. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:20:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: That's more a function of operations rather than logistics, but that's what I'd do if I had that capability to do so. I'm sure they want to do that as they have to know how vulnerable Russian logistics are, but we may also not be seeing all of what's happening behind the scenes as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By kncook: Why hasn’t Ukraine sent squads of saboteurs all over Russia? They have Looong rail lines all over the place. It’s a big country, blow these rail lines and jump around to different locations continuing to do it. Blow up electrical and infrastructure, etc, That's more a function of operations rather than logistics, but that's what I'd do if I had that capability to do so. I'm sure they want to do that as they have to know how vulnerable Russian logistics are, but we may also not be seeing all of what's happening behind the scenes as well. It would also cause Russia to pull resources to place all over Russia Internals. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:20:38 PM EDT
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I was here on thar fateful night this thread became 1200 pages long.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I'm wondering if they are using civilian trucking for stuff close to the border. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By elcope: It's all about throughput. Truck is less efficient and the Russians don't have enough trucks to supply what they have. I have no doubt they are. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: Russian logistics is based around rail movements. Switching to trucks complicates things immensely even if their system worked right. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By m35ben: I don't disagree. Though our logistic god may need to weigh in. You can move far more stuff with more organization faster with rail than by truck. This is why you want to use rail. Russian logistics is based around rail movements. Switching to trucks complicates things immensely even if their system worked right. The Russian main effort is toward Kiev, and the route they are taking doesnt follow existing major rail lines. At this point, they are so close to the city, pounding their refuelers will not stop an attack by itself. You cant stop them from driving there. Id say while I'm not against targeting refueling trucks, if you stack those targets against Command and control//headquarters Tanks Air defense artillery Artillery And the only deep strike capability is a TB-2 drone, I'm not sure Id be chasing fuel trucks around.  
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Truman_Sparks: We had those in Sacramento. Very solid desks. I had those desks in Oklahoma |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:25:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery:
He must be one of those Nazis we keep hearing about |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefly1032: Was going to say the same, very generous for what the Russian “hold”. Would that be - and bear with me here for a second - because you've been looking at the Ukranian maps? I mean, they wouldn't understate Russian progress, surely? It amazes me how you guys just dismiss offhand anything that doesn't fit the Kiev party line. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: It would also cause Russia to pull resources to place all over Russia Internals. Yep, get inside the Russians OODA loop and make them not know whether to wind their ass or scratch their watch. Sink a ship with a limpet in Sevastopol. Blow up a power station in Rostov. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey:
I was here on thar fateful night this thread became 1200 pages long. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:28:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Why hasn’t Ukraine sent squads of saboteurs all over Russia? They have Looong rail lines all over the place. It’s a big country, blow these rail lines and jump around to different locations continuing to do it. Blow up electrical and infrastructure, etc, They are all under deep cover as Russian supply officers. Does the Russian Army have the equivalent of CIF? I bet all those dudes have stroked out and should be counted in the casualty counts. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:29:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery:
Rabbi with an AK? 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: I have no doubt they are. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bizzarolibe: How naive. Does anyone really think the Russian higher ups will allow themselves to be arrested and tried before they nuke the rest of the world? On the off chance Putin is deposed and a radically different government emerges, sure. Otherwise, there will be no trials. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bizzarolibe: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Forcing civilians to the front lines like in Stalingrad...
How naive. Does anyone really think the Russian higher ups will allow themselves to be arrested and tried before they nuke the rest of the world? On the off chance Putin is deposed and a radically different government emerges, sure. Otherwise, there will be no trials. It will happen, same time as Durham takes down the FBI. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Who would believe that, if maybe he's right perhaps Ukraine can get the anti-ship missiles they requested 5 months ago, and turn the Russian ships into new fish reefs, and the Russian combattens into fish food. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:31:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: If anyone wants to help with providing body armor to UKR, Armored Republic is running a buy one-give one sale. $400 get you a vest and provides one to UKR or you can donate both. Better than Bomba Socks. ETA: Your donation is tax deductible! You'll receive a receipt accordingly. https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-lite-package.html www.ar500armor.com/ar500-lite-package.html Because hotlinking insert a tracking link......Brownell strikes again. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Forcing civilians to the front lines like in Stalingrad...
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:32:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:32:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: Well...yeah. If it's 5160 (number right?) then it's tooling steel, far from mild steel. It's probably not as resilient as AR500 or something specifically designed for ballistics, but...it's also a 1/2" thick. LOL. That's why it weighs twice as much as a standard steel plate you'd shove in a vest, and barely fits in theirs. It wouldn't be fun to wear, but I'd bet it'll stop most small arms fire. It also makes great swords!  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By Stretchman: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Didn't watch the video, huh?  I had to go back and watch it again. I saw it stop the one round. I wonder if they should test it with m193, or whatever the Rus equivalent is. I guess something is better than nothing. I'm honestly surprised that it stopped the one round. I've shot a lot of shit with 5.45 and it's pretty good at punching through steel. I'm no metallurgist but spring steel must be significantly better than regular ol' mild steel plate. Well...yeah. If it's 5160 (number right?) then it's tooling steel, far from mild steel. It's probably not as resilient as AR500 or something specifically designed for ballistics, but...it's also a 1/2" thick. LOL. That's why it weighs twice as much as a standard steel plate you'd shove in a vest, and barely fits in theirs. It wouldn't be fun to wear, but I'd bet it'll stop most small arms fire. It also makes great swords! Not tool steel, although it it used for knives, chisels, and carving tools. Make your plates thick and back them with a layer of something to catch spalls. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:36:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: I was here on thar fateful night this thread became 1200 pages long. And it looks like the party is just getting started. 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:39:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Oh that’s pimp. Wish I could chose a larger plate as I have a wider and taller torso than what 10x12 covers. I like the general idea, but I also saw a couple of places that Ukrainians were not looking for Ar500 steel plates. I would be concerned how they perform vs 7n22 which is current Russian 74 round and has improved penetration over 7n6. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:40:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
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K-52 engaging UKR fighters, gets downed. Didn't see this posted, apologize if it's a repeat, it's a funker530 post. Pretty neat.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: https://nypost.com/2022/03/19/thousands-of-ukrainians-forcibly-taken-to-russian-camps-reports/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Forgive me if this has been already addressed, but is there any actual evidence of these mass shipping of civilians off to concentration camps or gulags? It's a pretty giant claim and I'd reeeeeeally like some hard evidence before I repeat it anywhere. NBC Nightly News also mentioned the disappearing citizen's this evening, it was the 3rd story if I remember correctly, but, they also said they were trying to confirm the story........... |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:43:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Forcing civilians to the front lines like in Stalingrad...
Wasn't donbas almost entirely Russian separatists anyhow? Could be mistaken. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aeroworksxp: Many countries can pay for their socialist healthcare because we are the world police. Since we pay for military, we don't have free healthcare. At least that's how I see the joke. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aeroworksxp: Originally Posted By TheResurrector: Except military does have free health care. Or am I missing the joke?  Many countries can pay for their socialist healthcare because we are the world police. Since we pay for military, we don't have free healthcare. At least that's how I see the joke. Ok, that makes sense. Thanks! @aeroworksxp |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:45:20 PM EDT
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 3-meter anti-tank hedgehogs production. Entrepreneurs help to strengthen security in Poltava region |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:48:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroE: 5160 is a low alloy common spring steel that can be heat treated and tempered to about 59 Rc. Not tool steel, although it it used for knives, chisels, and carving tools. Make your plates thick and back them with a layer of something to catch spalls. Bleh. Boring steel. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:49:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: josepha1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: The Russian main effort is toward Kiev, and the route they are taking doesnt follow existing major rail lines. At this point, they are so close to the city, pounding their refuelers will not stop an attack by itself. You cant stop them from driving there. Id say while I'm not against targeting refueling trucks, if you stack those targets against Command and control//headquarters Tanks Air defense artillery Artillery And the only deep strike capability is a TB-2 drone, I'm not sure Id be chasing fuel trucks around. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Ukrainian_Railways_%28subdivisions%29.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By m35ben: I don't disagree. Though our logistic god may need to weigh in. You can move far more stuff with more organization faster with rail than by truck. This is why you want to use rail. Russian logistics is based around rail movements. Switching to trucks complicates things immensely even if their system worked right. The Russian main effort is toward Kiev, and the route they are taking doesnt follow existing major rail lines. At this point, they are so close to the city, pounding their refuelers will not stop an attack by itself. You cant stop them from driving there. Id say while I'm not against targeting refueling trucks, if you stack those targets against Command and control//headquarters Tanks Air defense artillery Artillery And the only deep strike capability is a TB-2 drone, I'm not sure Id be chasing fuel trucks around. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Ukrainian_Railways_%28subdivisions%29.png edit. delete |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:52:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Forcing civilians to the front lines like in Stalingrad...
Wonder how many who greeted them as liberators are having second thoughts now that their asses are having to fight for the cause. I hope that those living there who have opposed the Russian occupation start fragging their “fellow” comrades. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:52:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By retroangles: My spidey sense says this is all just more propaganda "Oh look! We are fighting nazis with nothing more than our forefathers arms!" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By retroangles: Originally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOJ29aOXwAgImYl?format=jpg&name=large this is all just more propaganda "Oh look! We are fighting nazis with nothing more than our forefathers arms!" There is enough pics of mosins, that isn't the only one. Must not be willing to pay for modern sniper rifles. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:53:06 PM EDT
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In on 1200!!!
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:53:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: The Russian main effort is toward Kiev, and the route they are taking doesnt follow existing major rail lines. At this point, they are so close to the city, pounding their refuelers will not stop an attack by itself. You cant stop them from driving there. Id say while I'm not against targeting refueling trucks, if you stack those targets against Command and control//headquarters Tanks Air defense artillery Artillery And the only deep strike capability is a TB-2 drone, I'm not sure Id be chasing fuel trucks around. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Ukrainian_Railways_%28subdivisions%29.png A modern army burns fuel standing still. It’s clear that a stationary unit will soon be located by drones and then visited by artillery. Units can’t just sit around for days or weeks without using gas. And if they do try to storm Kiev, they’ll need gas to do it. The straight-line distance to Kiev center may be “within range” but units will have to wait, maneuver, wait some more, in between fighting and taking losses. To press an attack they will need fuel, so fuel logistics are as important as ever. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:53:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: The Russian main effort is toward Kiev, and the route they are taking doesnt follow existing major rail lines. At this point, they are so close to the city, pounding their refuelers will not stop an attack by itself. You cant stop them from driving there. Id say while I'm not against targeting refueling trucks, if you stack those targets against Command and control//headquarters Tanks Air defense artillery Artillery And the only deep strike capability is a TB-2 drone, I'm not sure Id be chasing fuel trucks around. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Ukrainian_Railways_%28subdivisions%29.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By m35ben: I don't disagree. Though our logistic god may need to weigh in. You can move far more stuff with more organization faster with rail than by truck. This is why you want to use rail. Russian logistics is based around rail movements. Switching to trucks complicates things immensely even if their system worked right. The Russian main effort is toward Kiev, and the route they are taking doesnt follow existing major rail lines. At this point, they are so close to the city, pounding their refuelers will not stop an attack by itself. You cant stop them from driving there. Id say while I'm not against targeting refueling trucks, if you stack those targets against Command and control//headquarters Tanks Air defense artillery Artillery And the only deep strike capability is a TB-2 drone, I'm not sure Id be chasing fuel trucks around. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Ukrainian_Railways_%28subdivisions%29.png I find it amusing that the Russians still have this pre-19th century view that capturing cities wins wars. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Sweden,thinking it’s somehow a good idea to put a bunch of women and girls in any sort of proximity to those that nobody is allowed to say are Arabs but we all know are Arabs 🤦🏼♂️ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/AEBA9980-7B97-4AAB-8F88-D1CB40E66315_jpe-2319473.JPG Where is this from? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:53:37 PM EDT
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Iranian Oil Minister Javad Owji said in televised remarks on Saturday that he will try to raise Iran's oil and condensates exports to 1.4 million barrels per day as set out in an annual state budget. "In parliament, lawmakers decided to raise the ceiling of exports of oil and condensates from 1.2 million barrels (per day) to 1.4 million barrels. The Oil Ministry will do everything in its power to realise the level set in the budget," Owji told state television. Iran, facing US sanctions on its crude oil exports, does not divulge actual figures on its oil sales. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:55:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT1-285TH: In on 1200 https://i.imgur.com/kRkiJ9d.gif Rumors of Russians forcing civilians into military service in eastern Ukraine is disturbing. I thought there were reports that Ukraine wasn't allowing males 18-60 to leave the country because they had to fight. How is it any different?
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:56:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medic9: I’ll bet they are still holding out hope for maintaining some of their infrastructure. As I understand it, russia is all about defense inside of their country, and so their tactics are all about using their massive rail system to move everything around. They are not good at other stuff. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:56:59 PM EDT
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 In Fighting Putin''s Tyranny We Ought to Avoid the Risk of Resembling It |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:57:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Should have shook them down for phones at the border. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By netstorm: Originally Posted By glockluv: Have we done this one yet? Telegraph is reporting British Volunteers may have triggered the strike on a Western Ukrainian Base. 4chan is insinuating that those volunteers may have been the Reddit brigade. Not sure that's the case obviously Link is behind a paywall otherwise I'd post the article. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/19/british-volunteer-fighters-may-have-triggered-deadly-strike/ Should have shook them down for phones at the border. probably didn't want to surrender his $1,200 iphone. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: AZOV can fix that little problem once they are done fertilizing the fields with Russians and Chechens. Be patient and lock the doors. Soon... How about if Sweden just decides that modifying their political correctness is worth it in order to prevent women from being raped? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: I thought there were reports that Ukraine wasn't allowing males 18-60 to leave the country because they had to fight. How is it any different? One is fighting for its survival, and the other is not. Big difference. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: I thought there were reports that Ukraine wasn't allowing males 18-60 to leave the country because they had to fight. How is it any different? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: Originally Posted By CPT1-285TH: In on 1200 https://i.imgur.com/kRkiJ9d.gif Rumors of Russians forcing civilians into military service in eastern Ukraine is disturbing. I thought there were reports that Ukraine wasn't allowing males 18-60 to leave the country because they had to fight. How is it any different? I don't really agree with a draft, but that said I think its a bit different for your country to draft you to defend it and an invading army to force conquered people to fight for them against their own country. Some have suggested its illegal and I wouldn't doubt that. Not that Russia cares about international laws of war. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: If anyone wants to help with providing body armor to UKR, Armored Republic is running a buy one-give one sale. $400 get you a vest and provides one to UKR or you can donate both. Better than Bomba Socks. ETA: Your donation is tax deductible! You'll receive a receipt accordingly. https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-lite-package.html Huh, I might be getting body armor. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:05:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Element94: Pulling out all the stops--
They need to drop all the intel they have on the Bidens and the Clintons  Attached File |
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