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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:45:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:



I wonder can they even hold it at this point.  It seems like they axis to releive Mariupol is perhaps thru Kherson, but Crimea is awash in reserves?
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Would probably have to come from the north. It wasn't that long ago that the Ukrainians punched a corridor through. The front isn't solid like shown in the maps and the force density seems fairly low in the south. The main show seems to be further north at Popasnaya where the Russians are building up to try to cut off the salient and in the Sumy area where the Russians are trying to completely cut off the city and I'm assuming the Ukrainians will try to relieve it at some point.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:46:41 PM EST
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This is the translated comma of that BTR crew.




The Mariupol squad are going down swinging!

Holy shit.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:46:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:46:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


Having $28 million in the world currency doesn't seem useful to you regardless of where you are?
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Originally Posted By macro:
Originally Posted By Chokey:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOUXrz9XsAge_m8.jpg

So why would they have US currency?
Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful.


Having $28 million in the world currency doesn't seem useful to you regardless of where you are?


That isn't really my point.  What I am getting at, is that is seems a little strange that they just happen to have that kind of money in cash, in US currency. Who has $28M in $100 bills just sitting around? Its not like they want to an exchange and got it. They didn't get it from a bank. It was either sitting in a safe, or someone brought it to them. Its the logistics of it that I find curious.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:46:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 7empest:



I do wonder what the "Iron Lady" would have to say if she were still alive.
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Originally Posted By mnd6563:

I don't think Biden or Macron would even consider it.  I think Johnson is a tougher more realistic personality and he has said repeatedly that relations with Russia can never be normalized again without top down change.  He's not Reagan or Thatcher, but he's more likely to consider it than anyone else in my opinion.  Whatever that is worth.  I don't see NATO/EU allowing a tactical nuke used in their backyard.  Johnson would be the biggest hawk with an actual launch button.



I do wonder what the "Iron Lady" would have to say if she were still alive.

I think she would have had a couple thousand Challenger tanks on the Eastern half of Ukraine a year ago!  And a no fly zone before the invasion.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:47:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CharlieR:



The smart micro-munitions the TB2 have don't have a lot of warhead to them.  Under five pounds.  Not really great against ships.

Its noticeable there aren't a lot of videos of them against tanks, and they tend to focus on ADA vehicles, supply trucks, and other light skinned stuff.

I guess unless/until someone tells them the Russian Navy is up to something, focusing on real threats is the priority.
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Originally Posted By KELBEAST:


I’m honestly surprised the TB2 hasn’t flown sorties against the Russian ships yet. Maybe they don’t want to risk them against their air defenses. Or maybe they figure the ships aren’t that vulnerable against the munitions it can drop



The smart micro-munitions the TB2 have don't have a lot of warhead to them.  Under five pounds.  Not really great against ships.

Its noticeable there aren't a lot of videos of them against tanks, and they tend to focus on ADA vehicles, supply trucks, and other light skinned stuff.

I guess unless/until someone tells them the Russian Navy is up to something, focusing on real threats is the priority.


A five pound warhead against a ship’s bridge would do major damage even if there is a backup command center below decks.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:47:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

@stone-age Can you show me? Not calling you out, genuinely curious, and haven't made it through the entire thread yet. Several pages behind. Does Azov have Jewish members? It's basically an argument of "Are they Nazis, or are they Ultra-nationalists promoting Ukraine."
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By stone-age:


I like the one the Jewish members of Azov wear.

@stone-age Can you show me? Not calling you out, genuinely curious, and haven't made it through the entire thread yet. Several pages behind. Does Azov have Jewish members? It's basically an argument of "Are they Nazis, or are they Ultra-nationalists promoting Ukraine."


I think they do have some Jewish members. Regardless….their commander is a Jew.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:48:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By vicpro2:
So we gonna mention that Zelensky banned all political opposition parties now?

He's the guy fighting for freedom right? Just checking cause he seems to be the same type of sh*tty politician that will use an opportunity to become a dictator just like Putin.

There are no good guys to be found, just civilians and soldiers getting screwed.
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Join date checks out.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:48:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


More like "What's that, comrade? I can't *wargglbll*, please say again! Repeat, wargglbll, wargglbbl, comrade! *static*". Somewhere along that chain, someone will decide suicide is not in their best interest.
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Originally Posted By Skywarner:


If Putin starts lobbing tactical nukes, the Poles are going in with or without all of NATO supporting it.

Yep

I think he will do one and done and then his people will kill him for sure.  

If he can convince, generals all the way down the person pushing the button to do it.  It's not like he is actually the one with the button to launch it.  All he can do is order it and it has to go through a bunch of people before it actually happens.


Do we really know Putin's nuclear protocol?

Regardless, I'd be willing to bet that if he wants to launch a tactical nuke, it'll fly.


More like "What's that, comrade? I can't *wargglbll*, please say again! Repeat, wargglbll, wargglbbl, comrade! *static*". Somewhere along that chain, someone will decide suicide is not in their best interest.


I sincerely hope you're right, I'm just not very confident that would being the case. I'm not much of an optimist, though.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:50:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

@stone-age Can you show me? Not calling you out, genuinely curious, and haven't made it through the entire thread yet. Several pages behind. Does Azov have Jewish members? It's basically an argument of "Are they Nazis, or are they Ultra-nationalists promoting Ukraine."
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By stone-age:


I like the one the Jewish members of Azov wear.

@stone-age Can you show me? Not calling you out, genuinely curious, and haven't made it through the entire thread yet. Several pages behind. Does Azov have Jewish members? It's basically an argument of "Are they Nazis, or are they Ultra-nationalists promoting Ukraine."


Here's a good article about it.

https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jta/jewish-ukrainians-gear-up-for-fierce-russia-fight-alongside-the-neo-nazis-they-say-putin/article_d518b616-369b-5d39-9e20-bc8fc1edd033.html
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:50:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By getchevyn:


Please tell which Telegram channels
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https://t.me/OSINTUKRAINE

https://t.me/UkraineWarReport

https://t.me/uniannet
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:50:24 PM EST
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Relevant again:

We Must Fight (Ronald Reagan)

Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:51:06 PM EST
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https://t.me/OSINTUKRAINE

https://t.me/UkraineWarReport

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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:51:30 PM EST
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Did we do this yet?



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Righteousness
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:51:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By macro:


That isn't really my point.  What I am getting at, is that is seems a little strange that they just happen to have that kind of money in cash, in US currency. Who has $28M in $100 bills just sitting around? Its not like they want to an exchange and got it. They didn't get it from a bank. It was either sitting in a safe, or someone brought it to them. Its the logistics of it that I find curious.
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Originally Posted By macro:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Originally Posted By macro:
Originally Posted By Chokey:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOUXrz9XsAge_m8.jpg

So why would they have US currency?
Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful.


Having $28 million in the world currency doesn't seem useful to you regardless of where you are?


That isn't really my point.  What I am getting at, is that is seems a little strange that they just happen to have that kind of money in cash, in US currency. Who has $28M in $100 bills just sitting around? Its not like they want to an exchange and got it. They didn't get it from a bank. It was either sitting in a safe, or someone brought it to them. Its the logistics of it that I find curious.
The person that was caught was the wife of a corrupt politician under the pre-2014 Russian puppet government. I was reading about him when this was first posted and $30M was roughly the amount he evidently underreported on his taxes one year.  The Russian oligarchs that bankrolled corruption with Ukraine have zero issues putting together that kind of cash in US dollars.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:51:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By macro:
That isn't really my point.  What I am getting at, is that is seems a little strange that they just happen to have that kind of money in cash, in US currency. Who has $28M in $100 bills just sitting around? Its not like they want to an exchange and got it. They didn't get it from a bank. It was either sitting in a safe, or someone brought it to them. Its the logistics of it that I find curious.
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You need to get out more.  

Not everyone believes that virtual 1s and 0s in the interwebz is the end all be all of 'wealth'.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:53:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:



Says he banned 11 parties with ties to Russia. I don't know if there is other parties outside of that 11 that are still legal they aren't tied to Russia, or what tied to Russia really means. It does sound like the kind of thing that could easily be abused.

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Lol

Yes, after fighting a bloody war against Russia having parties that support it makes complete sense.

Sounds like they can have any party they want as long as it's not pro Russian

Or whatever
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:54:19 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:55:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:

Some of my tax dollars at work but I'm good with it.


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Same

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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:56:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By getchevyn:


Please tell which Telegram channels
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RF200_now always has some pretty good violence and dead bodies.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:57:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By marcus5819:

Why the hate?
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Fuck him for trying to pull is into all out war with Russia.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:58:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Lol

Yes, after fighting a bloody war against Russia having parties that support it makes complete sense.

Sounds like they can have any party they want as long as it's not pro Russian

Or whatever
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By wyomingnick:



Says he banned 11 parties with ties to Russia. I don't know if there is other parties outside of that 11 that are still legal they aren't tied to Russia, or what tied to Russia really means. It does sound like the kind of thing that could easily be abused.


Lol

Yes, after fighting a bloody war against Russia having parties that support it makes complete sense.

Sounds like they can have any party they want as long as it's not pro Russian

Or whatever


It'd be like England banning the Nazi party during WWII.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:58:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

@stone-age Can you show me? Not calling you out, genuinely curious, and haven't made it through the entire thread yet. Several pages behind. Does Azov have Jewish members? It's basically an argument of "Are they Nazis, or are they Ultra-nationalists promoting Ukraine."
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So...this is my understanding of current status of "Azov".  It's now a regular (though considered somewhat 'select' due to it's history ) unit of National Guard of Ukraine.  Vast majority of soldiers in it get there through the same process as any other NGU soldiers.  Any 'neo-nazis' are left over from it's original volunteer incarnation and are a small minority.  If anybody has other information, I am ready to be corrected but this is what I think is currently going on.
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You BASTARD. @OBird

Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:59:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cerecer:



Fuck him for trying to pull is into all out war with Russia.
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Originally Posted By cerecer:
Originally Posted By marcus5819:

Why the hate?



Fuck him for trying to pull is into all out war with Russia.







Yes.. Its all his fault.  





Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:59:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cerecer:



Fuck him for trying to pull is into all out war with Russia.
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Originally Posted By cerecer:
Originally Posted By marcus5819:

Why the hate?



Fuck him for trying to pull is into all out war with Russia.


Literally every leader on earth would be doing the same thing if their country was facing almost certain annihilation.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:01:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cerecer:



Fuck him for trying to pull is into all out war with Russia.
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Posting this again for you:
We Must Fight (Ronald Reagan)

Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:01:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By snackle:

Azov battalion...
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Originally Posted By snackle:
Originally Posted By fike:


Denazification…..

Azov battalion...


How many are there? 2500 at the absolute most? Out of a population of 41 million with a Jewish president.

By that measure, you can apply that standard to any country…..which is a stupid.

And here you are.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:02:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SkiShooter:


Round them up and send them back to Putin.
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Originally Posted By vicpro2:
So we gonna mention that Zelensky banned all political opposition parties now?

He's the guy fighting for freedom right? Just checking cause he seems to be the same type of sh*tty politician that will use an opportunity to become a dictator just like Putin.

There are no good guys to be found, just civilians and soldiers getting screwed.


Round them up and send them back to Putin.



Umm.... Really?

The fact that one of his biggest opponents was chastising Zelensky for not moving more quickly to join NATO... Is a putin fanboy?

Now Zelensky wants nothing to do with NATO... Go figure.

I can see postponing elections until shit dies down, but, outlawing political parties but your own... You Stalin bro?
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:02:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


To save us the trouble of scouring for scripture, can you give specific references @bbtc_mh as I would enjoy reading. Thank you sir.
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Originally Posted By BBTC_MH:
People should go look up the modern day equivalents of Gog, Magog, Meshek, Tubal, Gomer, Beth-Togarmah, Put, and Cush in Ezekiel 38


Edit: I would think that current events when overlayed on prophecy from over 2,000 years ago when give even a secular observer pause…it’s beginning to play out exactly as described.  

Couple that with scripture that describes what is nearly identical to a CBRN warfare environment and it doesn’t exactly give a warm feeling about what is on the horizon.


To save us the trouble of scouring for scripture, can you give specific references @bbtc_mh as I would enjoy reading. Thank you sir.

Biblegateway.com is my go to. Every translation, searchable, and a nice GUI. https://www.biblegateway.com/
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:02:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:


I wish this thread had an index.  Anyway, it seems that this Nazi Ukrainian bullshit comes up every couple of hundred pages. Alexi Joneskov just published another bullshit article on his webpage about Ukrainians in WW2. My Ukrainian family including my mother had their home and business taken away from the Nazis. My mother (in her 80s) still remembers when Nazis came to her home and questioned my grandmother as to where my great uncle Michael was (he joined the Ukrainian partisans in the Carpathian mountains WHO WERE KILLING NAZIS). That day, my mother heard all of the women and children crying in her village because the Nazis were executing all of the men. My grandparents even hid their Jewish neighbors in a root cellar- had they been caught, they would have been executed. My mother and grandparents wound up in a German prison camp. Over 2,000,000 Ukrianians were killed directly by German forces in WW2. In 1932-33, Stalin mass murdered between 7 - 12 million Ukrainians in the largest genocide by famine. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought both the Nazis and the Russian Communists and the fight against communists continued into the 1950s.

As far as this other bullshit you and the others keep harping on:

I once remember a guy set up at a 500 table gun show in Ohio who was selling Nazi WW2 paraphernalia BUT not just for collecting but for promoting, he was also a skinhead type. The news went right to him for an interview, Guess what was on the news? "Gun shows are meeting centers for Aryan Nations and other Neo-Nazi groups".

THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE SUPPORTS AZOV BATTALION! The Jewish president of Ukraine supports Azov Battalion (100% integrated into the Ukrainian military). Kyiv Mayor Klitchko supports Azov (1/2 or 1/4 Jewish, I forget).Ukraine is the ONLY country outside of Israel to have a Jewish president AND a Jewish Prime Minister serving AT THE SAME TIME. There are Jewish leaders in AZOV BATTALION.

And let's not forget even more right wing Right Sektor:

Ukraine's Right Sektor is so Nazi that one of the founders was (drum roll please) Jewish:
Right-Wing Ukrainian Leader Is (Surprise) Jewish, and (Real Surprise) Proud of It: A Q&A with the Right Sector Parliamentarian Borislav Bereza - article by TABLET (a Jewish publication)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtcIN2NWgAEdMoU?format=jpg&name=medium
Maxim has fought in east #Ukraine since May 2014 (including w/ Right Sector) and heads a company of Jewish volunteer fighters.

https://i0.wp.com/bilozerska.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/IMG_0094-1024x683.jpg?zoom=2
Jewish Members of Right Sektor in a worship service

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Minora Ukrainian Right Sektor t-shirt worn by a Jew

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Are you able to tell me exactly what some of these patches mean? And the medal?
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:04:11 PM EST
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Yes!!
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:04:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


To save us the trouble of scouring for scripture, can you give specific references @bbtc_mh as I would enjoy reading. Thank you sir.
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38 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, set your face toward Gog (Russia) of the land of Magog (Russia), the chief prince of Meshech (Moscow area) and Tubal(Turkey) , and prophesy against him, 3 and say, ‘This is what the Lord [a]God says: “Behold, I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4 So I will turn you around and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them magnificently dressed, a great contingent with shield and [b]buckler, all of them wielding swords; 5 Persia (Iran) [c]Cush (Ethiopia) and Put (Libya) with them, all of them with buckler and helmet; 6 Gomer (southern Russia) with all its troops; Beth-togarmah (Turkey) from the remote parts of the north with all its troops—many peoples with you…..



These are the modern day places in  parentheses. I’m on a road trip and taking a short break from driving. Don’t expect to get back until after midnight. So I’ll post more tomorrow perhaps.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:04:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BBTC_MH:
People should go look up the modern day equivalents of Gog, Magog, Meshek, Tubal, Gomer, Beth-Togarmah, Put, and Cush in Ezekiel 38


Edit: I would think that current events when overlayed on prophecy from over 2,000 years ago when give even a secular observer pause…it’s beginning to play out exactly as described.  

Couple that with scripture that describes what is nearly identical to a CBRN warfare environment and it doesn’t exactly give a warm feeling about what is on the horizon.
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Where is an interpretation explaining the players I can look at?
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:05:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By x248716x:

makes him the perfect candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:
Originally Posted By vicpro2:
So we gonna mention that Zelensky banned all political opposition parties now?

He's the guy fighting for freedom right? Just checking cause he seems to be the same type of sh*tty politician that will use an opportunity to become a dictator just like Putin.

There are no good guys to be found, just civilians and soldiers getting screwed.


Well he said the reason he was inspired to get into politics was Trudeau so not really a surprise.

makes him the perfect candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize.

No whitey white white person will ever win the peace prize again in our lifetime, period. That's the first absolute. For any other pertinent factors in re actions or deeds in furtherance of whirled peas, see rule #1.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:06:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By macro:


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People who need $28M in $100bills are who..

What they are doing with it is more exciting.

Nobody has that kinda cash on hand in suitcases unless they are going to do something naughty with it.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:06:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mnd6563:

Mistakes are normal, but you are judged on your ability to recognize the mistake and then taking the initiative to own the solution for fixing it.  Get to work Germany, and fix it!
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Yep. Lots of people misjudged the situation.
It started to look a lot more serious once they started setting up hospitals.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:07:16 PM EST
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Where is an interpretation explaining the players I can look at?
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Above
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:07:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Lol

Yes, after fighting a bloody war against Russia having parties that support it makes complete sense.

Sounds like they can have any party they want as long as it's not pro Russian

Or whatever
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By wyomingnick:



Says he banned 11 parties with ties to Russia. I don't know if there is other parties outside of that 11 that are still legal they aren't tied to Russia, or what tied to Russia really means. It does sound like the kind of thing that could easily be abused.


Lol

Yes, after fighting a bloody war against Russia having parties that support it makes complete sense.

Sounds like they can have any party they want as long as it's not pro Russian

Or whatever



My point is that I don't trust governments or politicians. We all know exactly how our own government here milks and abuses every crisis. I don't care if they ban parties with ties to Russia, but if I was a Ukrainian in an opposition party I'd be very concerned to be falsely accused of being pro Russian same as conservatives are constantly painted as racist.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Drug dealers, warlords and corrupt politicians, those are the people that keep cash like that. She is the wife of a corrupt politician.

In $100 bills, banded neatly, that is several very large kit bags of money.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Originally Posted By macro:


That isn't really my point.  What I am getting at, is that is seems a little strange that they just happen to have that kind of money in cash, in US currency. Who has $28M in $100 bills just sitting around? Its not like they want to an exchange and got it. They didn't get it from a bank. It was either sitting in a safe, or someone brought it to them. Its the logistics of it that I find curious.
Drug dealers, warlords and corrupt politicians, those are the people that keep cash like that. She is the wife of a corrupt politician.

In $100 bills, banded neatly, that is several very large kit bags of money.

$100,000 crisp, and uncirculated $100 US reserve notes, banded from a bank, is about the same size as two cases of 12 decks of standard index poker playing cards. Roughly an ordinary shoe box.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:12:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:



Says he banned 11 parties with ties to Russia. I don't know if there is other parties outside of that 11 that are still legal they aren't tied to Russia, or what tied to Russia really means. It does sound like the kind of thing that could easily be abused.

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You could Google it instead of spewing crap all over the internet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_Ukraine
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:13:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By norseman1:



Umm.... Really?

The fact that one of his biggest opponents was chastising Zelensky for not moving more quickly to join NATO... Is a putin fanboy?

Now Zelensky wants nothing to do with NATO... Go figure.

I can see postponing elections until shit dies down, but, outlawing political parties but your own... You Stalin bro?
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Zelensky banned 11 parties. 10 of those parties do not currently have any representative in Verhovnaya Rada (Ukrainian parliament).  The one that does holds 39 seats (out of 450).  That leaves 101 seats for unbanned opposition parties.  Under the circumstances, I see no reason to cast him as second Hitler/Stalin/Mao.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:13:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By prill64:


Because while we may differ on how our country should be run, many people agree that seeing innocent people killed by an aggressor nation invading a sovereign country is generally a bad thing.

I'm no Biden fan, but I think his administration has walked a pretty good path here.  Aside from the MiG debacle we're supporting with arms directly and supporting indirectly by supporting European Countries doing the same.

A bunch of European countries that have S300s Ukraine could use are magically getting Patriot batteries stationed there being a good example.

We're not the global police but are encouraging European countries to do their part since this is in their backyard and supporting that process pretty well.

Just because Dems are supporting something doesn't mean Republicans should automatically be against it.  That's part of the problem with our politics.

We bashed Democrats for "Orange man bad". We should not fall into the same trap.


ETA: there's always gonna be politics at playbut the core here is that what Russia is doing is bad and we're playing an appropriate part of stopping that.
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Originally Posted By Eight_Ring:


Cool.  So now tell me why the left wants to see a war with Russia.  The left--who hates America and everything America stands for, some people did some things--remember that left?  Yeah--tell me why THEY are so peculiarly interested in involving themselves in Ukraine's war, no matter what the costs.


Because while we may differ on how our country should be run, many people agree that seeing innocent people killed by an aggressor nation invading a sovereign country is generally a bad thing.

I'm no Biden fan, but I think his administration has walked a pretty good path here.  Aside from the MiG debacle we're supporting with arms directly and supporting indirectly by supporting European Countries doing the same.

A bunch of European countries that have S300s Ukraine could use are magically getting Patriot batteries stationed there being a good example.

We're not the global police but are encouraging European countries to do their part since this is in their backyard and supporting that process pretty well.

Just because Dems are supporting something doesn't mean Republicans should automatically be against it.  That's part of the problem with our politics.

We bashed Democrats for "Orange man bad". We should not fall into the same trap.


ETA: there's always gonna be politics at playbut the core here is that what Russia is doing is bad and we're playing an appropriate part of stopping that.
Perfectly stated. I think we could be friends.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:15:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOUXrz9XsAge_m8.jpg
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It's not illegal to have money. Was it seized and, if so, what was the justification?
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:16:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nickmemphis:

Biblegateway.com is my go to. Every translation, searchable, and a nice GUI. https://www.biblegateway.com/
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Originally Posted By BBTC_MH:
People should go look up the modern day equivalents of Gog, Magog, Meshek, Tubal, Gomer, Beth-Togarmah, Put, and Cush in Ezekiel 38


Edit: I would think that current events when overlayed on prophecy from over 2,000 years ago when give even a secular observer pause…it’s beginning to play out exactly as described.  

Couple that with scripture that describes what is nearly identical to a CBRN warfare environment and it doesn’t exactly give a warm feeling about what is on the horizon.


To save us the trouble of scouring for scripture, can you give specific references @bbtc_mh as I would enjoy reading. Thank you sir.

Biblegateway.com is my go to. Every translation, searchable, and a nice GUI. https://www.biblegateway.com/

Nice, thanks!
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:17:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By M-1975:


Posting this again for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUQm7UqF-YA
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“There is a point upon which they must not advance….”

Thats alot further west than Ukraine for me.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:17:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheResurrector:



It's not illegal to have money. Was it seized and, if so, what was the justification?
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I don't think it was seized - the article I read said it was forced to be declared.  There may be penalties for not declaring certain amounts of currency - IIRC, for US is anything $10,000 and over.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:18:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
You could Google it instead of spewing crap all over the internet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_Ukraine
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Wikipedia is not necessarily the source you should use to tell someone not to "spew'
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:18:22 PM EST
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A military convoy was spotted carrying up to six nuclear warheads headed along the motorway through Glasgow to an arms depot on Friday.

The convoy was seen only a mile south of Glasgow city centre, heading to Royal Naval Armaments Depot Coulport on Loch Long, according to NukeWatch, an organisation that tracks and monitors the convoys that transport the UK's Trident nuclear warheads.

The weapons of mass destruction were a 'reminder of the UK's contribution to nuclear terror,' the group said, amid heighting tensions between NATO and Russia - which recently put its own nuclear weapons on high alert.
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Nuclear missile convoy carrying up to six deadly warheads is spotted on motorway going through Glasgow on way to Royal Navy depot
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:19:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheResurrector:



It's not illegal to have money. Was it seized and, if so, what was the justification?
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This is GD. We believe at the same time and in the same sense that civil asset forfeiture laws are way beyond the pall, and also that having lots of cash on you is prime facia evidence of being naughty, and we don't see any cognitive dissonance in it.
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