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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:14:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vicpro2: So we gonna mention that Zelensky banned all political opposition parties now? He's the guy fighting for freedom right? Just checking cause he seems to be the same type of sh*tty politician that will use an opportunity to become a dictator just like Putin. There are no good guys to be found, just civilians and soldiers getting screwed. Round them up and send them back to Putin. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:15:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: My opinion is that Russian leadership seeing a joint US/EURO hit that takes out a huge chunk of their military would be a sign that they are about to lose everything if they don't step back. I have no doubt that a large number of people in the Russian govt and military do not want to see their families nuked and would stage a coup or declare Putin unfit. Hopefully if Putin orders a nuclear escalation, someone puts a bullet in him in the Kremlin right then, but who knows. I don't see Biden or Macron responding to a tactical nuke with a nuke in return. Johnson might. But a massive hard conventional hit that decimates the Russian military would be a palatable option to all three of the leaders and likely supported around the world. And it would play well in an election year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By Vengeance6661: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I would think the smart move to a tactical nuke on Kyiv would be a massive cruise missile attack on several major Russian military installations with conventional warheads. But with the strike coming from US, UK, French subs and planes. And then the warning that if they don't withdraw the next step is a full NATO retaliation. Putin would have to back down. Macron, Biden, Johnson would look tough but measured and Russia would be forced to take down Putin internally. Why wouldn't Russia be forced to take down putin prior to a tactical nuke? You're scenario doesn't make sense to me atleast. My opinion is that Russian leadership seeing a joint US/EURO hit that takes out a huge chunk of their military would be a sign that they are about to lose everything if they don't step back. I have no doubt that a large number of people in the Russian govt and military do not want to see their families nuked and would stage a coup or declare Putin unfit. Hopefully if Putin orders a nuclear escalation, someone puts a bullet in him in the Kremlin right then, but who knows. I don't see Biden or Macron responding to a tactical nuke with a nuke in return. Johnson might. But a massive hard conventional hit that decimates the Russian military would be a palatable option to all three of the leaders and likely supported around the world. And it would play well in an election year. What makes you think Johnson would do it when America/France won't ? I am curious. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:16:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: I hope that actually is the case, and not just an opportunity to crack down on political opposition. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By kncook: Oh did he? Remember when the greatest generation of Americans ever were going to happily give FDR a fourth term because of war time? Probably not the best time to allow a pro-Russian arm to be all 1A auditing during an open war and fight for your country. Lol. The parties he banned have ties to Russia. See this is what the political commissars do they post something with a nugget of truth but leave out the rest of the facts and reason why. I hope that actually is the case, and not just an opportunity to crack down on political opposition. Did you bother to read about it yourself? |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:17:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PAspeedmaster: Turkey says Russia, Ukraine 'close to agreement' Turkey, which has tried to position itself as a mediator, says Russia and Ukraine have made progress on their negotiations to halt the invasion and the two warring sides are close to an agreement. Turkey said it was also ready to host a meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220320-war-in-ukraine-latest-developments-1 What a joke. Putin wouldnt do that. Meeting with Zelensky would be as bad as a defeat anyway, Russia isn’t negotiating. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:17:45 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:18:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: Why would you want to shut up people calling for your destruction? Seems like that would only increase your support. Unless all of this is founded on a lie. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheResurrector: Originally Posted By stone-age: I guess we'll see how this goes. I understand wanting to shut-up people who literally want the nation of Ukraine destroyed. Why would you want to shut up people calling for your destruction? Seems like that would only increase your support. Unless all of this is founded on a lie. So wanting to cut off propaganda intended to cause issues with defending your nation against naked aggression is a bad thing? They have access to plenty of media besides Ukrainian media. It is not like they are being limited to only the official Ukrainian party line. Lies designed to cause chaos and help the enemy are a different matter. IF Zelensky was blocking ALL media save for Ukrainian state tv, radio, print and on-line you might have a point. Ukrainians still have access to tons of information, just not Russian disinformation intended to hasten an illegal invasion. Fuck the Russians and everybody who supports them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:18:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Tucker Carlson is (I believe appropriately) a strong-borders America-first crypto-isolationist who knows that men can't have babies (he's right) and that inaction at the southern border is part of a very deliberate strategy to weaken and destroy America (he's right) by the very people who are trying to destroy every aspect of the American Bill of rights (he's right) and who suspects that the very same people who are trying to drag the United States into the Ukranian geographical misfortune/tragedy "for the children" are also probably doing so because Ukraine is a rich source of retirement money for them (and I suspect he's right about that, too). As for "propaganda"? Anybody who imagines that they care so passionately and deeply about Ukraine (really? Why? Two months ago you couldn't have pointed to Ukraine on a map)--your head is so full of propaganda that you can't even think straight. And that's all I'm going to say about that. Now you can call me a dim-witted commie stooge. I was sending medical supplies to Ukraine in 2014. Please tell me some more about how I really don't know anything about it. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:20:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EvanWilliams: White claw? LoL Might as well drink cum Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EvanWilliams: Originally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I know what a Nazi was in 1939 Germany. I do not know what a Nazi is today, because the term is thrown around so loosely it defies all logic and reason. But... If the guys in Mauripol defending their homeland by kicking ass and fighting Russians to the death for the last 4 weeks are a bunch of Nazis? Then I am proud to say I'm cheering for the Nazi's in this fight. I'm on Team AZOV and Team Ukraine. Fuck Putin. Probably about the same as a white supremacist in 2022 https://images.law.com/contrib/content/uploads/sites/392/2022/03/Henry-Tarrio-767x633.jpg White claw? LoL Might as well drink cum 
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:20:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpaceGuy: Did we do this yet?
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:20:45 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:21:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Yep I think he will do one and done and then his people will kill him for sure. If he can convince, generals all the way down the person pushing the button to do it. It's not like he is actually the one with the button to launch it. All he can do is order it and it has to go through a bunch of people before it actually happens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By Skywarner: If Putin starts lobbing tactical nukes, the Poles are going in with or without all of NATO supporting it. Yep I think he will do one and done and then his people will kill him for sure. If he can convince, generals all the way down the person pushing the button to do it. It's not like he is actually the one with the button to launch it. All he can do is order it and it has to go through a bunch of people before it actually happens. Do we really know Putin's nuclear protocol? Regardless, I'd be willing to bet that if he wants to launch a tactical nuke, it'll fly. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:21:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Did you bother to read about it yourself? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By kncook: Oh did he? Remember when the greatest generation of Americans ever were going to happily give FDR a fourth term because of war time? Probably not the best time to allow a pro-Russian arm to be all 1A auditing during an open war and fight for your country. Lol. The parties he banned have ties to Russia. See this is what the political commissars do they post something with a nugget of truth but leave out the rest of the facts and reason why. I hope that actually is the case, and not just an opportunity to crack down on political opposition. Did you bother to read about it yourself? I found a couple of articles saying he banned 11 parties with ties to Russia. It didn't really go into details what that meant. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:22:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Here is what YOU don't get. There should never have been an invasion in the first place. Mature individuals rooted deeply in an understanding or Realpolitik should have let Zelinski know that Ukraine was in Russia's sphere of influence, and Russia had strategic concerns about NATO encroaching on their borders, and no, it isn't fair, and no he wasn't going to get a pony for his birthday either, and that he should just cut the best deal that he possibly could given those ugly facts. Then the Ukranian government should have worked hard to make the best of their situation, and make necessary accommodations to the reality of the situation (maybe Ireland and Mexico and Canada could have helped mentor them) and spare their population from the horrors of war. Or not. Forgive my pragmatism. I'm not in college any more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By outofbattery: What is going on is that the Russian IO aimed at the American right has worked very well. It has been obvious for years and nobody has cared. Cool. So now tell me why the left wants to see a war with Russia. The left--who hates America and everything America stands for, some people did some things--remember that left? Yeah--tell me why THEY are so peculiarly interested in involving themselves in Ukraine's war, no matter what the costs. Here is what you don't seem to get. Just because the left doesnt want to see Ukrainians get slaughtered by Russians doesn't mean the left wants war with Russia. It also does not mean that by supporting Ukraine means you support a democrat agenda. That is a simpleton way to look at things and people who engage in that type of reasoning are very easily manipulated. Here is what YOU don't get. There should never have been an invasion in the first place. Mature individuals rooted deeply in an understanding or Realpolitik should have let Zelinski know that Ukraine was in Russia's sphere of influence, and Russia had strategic concerns about NATO encroaching on their borders, and no, it isn't fair, and no he wasn't going to get a pony for his birthday either, and that he should just cut the best deal that he possibly could given those ugly facts. Then the Ukranian government should have worked hard to make the best of their situation, and make necessary accommodations to the reality of the situation (maybe Ireland and Mexico and Canada could have helped mentor them) and spare their population from the horrors of war. Or not. Forgive my pragmatism. I'm not in college any more. You would like to appease Putin at all cost. Others don’t think Putin should be able to dictate what others countries do or don’t do. He got himself into this mess. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:22:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Why, because they banned a whole bunch of people from the thread for attempting to derail it with Russian propaganda talking points? As a general matter, there are certainly problems with some site staff. Their handling of this thread has not been out of line. I wonder, how many people have been banned from the thread?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By TheResurrector: The staff members simply aren't honest brokers. Why, because they banned a whole bunch of people from the thread for attempting to derail it with Russian propaganda talking points? As a general matter, there are certainly problems with some site staff. Their handling of this thread has not been out of line. I wonder, how many people have been banned from the thread? I have noticed particularly in this thread the mods have been very patient even to the point of asking us to stay on topic and stop the purse swinging. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:23:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: What makes you think Johnson would do it when America/France won't ? I am curious. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By Vengeance6661: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I would think the smart move to a tactical nuke on Kyiv would be a massive cruise missile attack on several major Russian military installations with conventional warheads. But with the strike coming from US, UK, French subs and planes. And then the warning that if they don't withdraw the next step is a full NATO retaliation. Putin would have to back down. Macron, Biden, Johnson would look tough but measured and Russia would be forced to take down Putin internally. Why wouldn't Russia be forced to take down putin prior to a tactical nuke? You're scenario doesn't make sense to me atleast. My opinion is that Russian leadership seeing a joint US/EURO hit that takes out a huge chunk of their military would be a sign that they are about to lose everything if they don't step back. I have no doubt that a large number of people in the Russian govt and military do not want to see their families nuked and would stage a coup or declare Putin unfit. Hopefully if Putin orders a nuclear escalation, someone puts a bullet in him in the Kremlin right then, but who knows. I don't see Biden or Macron responding to a tactical nuke with a nuke in return. Johnson might. But a massive hard conventional hit that decimates the Russian military would be a palatable option to all three of the leaders and likely supported around the world. And it would play well in an election year. What makes you think Johnson would do it when America/France won't ? I am curious. I don't think Biden or Macron would even consider it. I think Johnson is a tougher more realistic personality and he has said repeatedly that relations with Russia can never be normalized again without top down change. He's not Reagan or Thatcher, but he's more likely to consider it than anyone else in my opinion. Whatever that is worth. I don't see NATO/EU allowing a tactical nuke used in their backyard. Johnson would be the biggest hawk with an actual launch button. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:24:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HiramRanger: So wanting to cut off propaganda intended to cause issues with defending your nation against naked aggression is a bad thing? They have access to plenty of media besides Ukrainian media. It is not like they are being limited to only the official Ukrainian party line. Lies designed to cause chaos and help the enemy are a different matter. IF Zelensky was blocking ALL media save for Ukrainian state tv, radio, print and on-line you might have a point. Ukrainians still have access to tons of information, just not Russian disinformation intended to hasten an illegal invasion. Fuck the Russians and everybody who supports them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:24:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: Yup, he snuck it in there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By snackle: Russia certainly should not have invaded Ukraine. Dems and Rinos certainly should not have been laundering money in Ukraine, and participating in corruption. The US should not have engaged in provocative actions in Ukraine. We should have taken Russian security concerns seriously, and told them we would not place nukess there under any condition, and supported denazification through peaceful means. The green weenies should not have made Europe dependent upon russian energy. NATO countries should have kept up with defense obligations. Joe Biden shouldn't have stolen the election. Ukrainians should not have persecuted ethnic Russians. With all that said, millions of people who had nothing to do with the above stupidity are being made victims of this conflict. I pray that peace can be made soon, and if not, that Ukraine can defend itself. You put a bunch of fairly reasonable stuff around this pile of steaming dung. Yup, he snuck it in there. You guys see a Russian propagandist under every bush. The levels of paranoia are off the charts. Foreign relations experts predicted this years ago. They didn't make it up. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:25:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Car that the collaborating would be puppet was traveling in: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/41774028-D848-46E7-882B-6896ED1D1F5D_jpe-2320552.JPG Scott Ritter continuing to make as ass out of himself,probably mad he got stuck working at RT rather than getting hired by Fox https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/0D0A69C1-AEAD-4F11-BFE1-0C1C7CA47766_jpe-2320557.JPG Met this scumbag once in Albany, NY at Uncommon Grounds. He was giving an interview and I had the absolute pleasure of calling him a scumbag child rapist in front of everybody. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:26:06 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:26:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snackle: You guys see a Russian propagandist under every bush. The levels of paranoia are off the charts. Foreign relations experts predicted this years ago. They didn't make it up. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:27:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Ok this did make me lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOTUvR2XoAE_Fe5?format=jpg&name=small Yes, only with 100% less genocide and less snazzy uniforms. On second thought, keep the uniforms. It would scare the crap out of the Russians! |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:27:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HiramRanger: Met this scumbag once in Albany, NY at Uncommon Grounds. He was giving an interview and I had the absolute pleasure of calling him a scumbag child rapist in front of everybody. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HiramRanger: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Car that the collaborating would be puppet was traveling in: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/41774028-D848-46E7-882B-6896ED1D1F5D_jpe-2320552.JPG Scott Ritter continuing to make as ass out of himself,probably mad he got stuck working at RT rather than getting hired by Fox https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/0D0A69C1-AEAD-4F11-BFE1-0C1C7CA47766_jpe-2320557.JPG Met this scumbag once in Albany, NY at Uncommon Grounds. He was giving an interview and I had the absolute pleasure of calling him a scumbag child rapist in front of everybody. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:28:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: You would like to appease Putin at all cost. Others don’t think Putin should be able to dictate what others countries do or don’t do. He got himself into this mess. I have said it before but where does the appeasement end? Does it end with Alaska? Or do we give up Alaska if Putin threatens nukes? Bottom line is appeasement is the reason why the world is facing this situation now. And the appeasement of the Chinese needs to stop as well but that is a topic for another thread. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:29:27 PM EST
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Poland getting more engaged and ramping it up:
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:30:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snackle: You guys see a Russian propagandist under every bush. The levels of paranoia are off the charts. Foreign relations experts predicted this years ago. They didn't make it up. Denazification….. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:30:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Poland getting more engaged and ramping it up:
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:30:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: I don't think Biden or Macron would even consider it. I think Johnson is a tougher more realistic personality and he has said repeatedly that relations with Russia can never be normalized again without top down change. He's not Reagan or Thatcher, but he's more likely to consider it than anyone else in my opinion. Whatever that is worth. I don't see NATO/EU allowing a tactical nuke used in their backyard. Johnson would be the biggest hawk with an actual launch button. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By Vengeance6661: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I would think the smart move to a tactical nuke on Kyiv would be a massive cruise missile attack on several major Russian military installations with conventional warheads. But with the strike coming from US, UK, French subs and planes. And then the warning that if they don't withdraw the next step is a full NATO retaliation. Putin would have to back down. Macron, Biden, Johnson would look tough but measured and Russia would be forced to take down Putin internally. Why wouldn't Russia be forced to take down putin prior to a tactical nuke? You're scenario doesn't make sense to me atleast. My opinion is that Russian leadership seeing a joint US/EURO hit that takes out a huge chunk of their military would be a sign that they are about to lose everything if they don't step back. I have no doubt that a large number of people in the Russian govt and military do not want to see their families nuked and would stage a coup or declare Putin unfit. Hopefully if Putin orders a nuclear escalation, someone puts a bullet in him in the Kremlin right then, but who knows. I don't see Biden or Macron responding to a tactical nuke with a nuke in return. Johnson might. But a massive hard conventional hit that decimates the Russian military would be a palatable option to all three of the leaders and likely supported around the world. And it would play well in an election year. What makes you think Johnson would do it when America/France won't ? I am curious. I don't think Biden or Macron would even consider it. I think Johnson is a tougher more realistic personality and he has said repeatedly that relations with Russia can never be normalized again without top down change. He's not Reagan or Thatcher, but he's more likely to consider it than anyone else in my opinion. Whatever that is worth. I don't see NATO/EU allowing a tactical nuke used in their backyard. Johnson would be the biggest hawk with an actual launch button. Interesting perspective. I feel like he probably wouldn't do it without backing of the others though. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:30:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: No. I understood that you were generalizing in ways that are a little too common lately. Tucker Carlson is a commie stooge? Really? Name one fucking media personality at his level who has done MORE to try to highlight the left's hypocracy and lunacy than Tucker Carlson. I understand perfectly why the left wants him gone. What I don't understand is why the average ARFCOMMER wants him gone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Originally Posted By kncook: Damn. Guess you felt I was talking directly to you. No. I understood that you were generalizing in ways that are a little too common lately. Tucker Carlson is a commie stooge? Really? Name one fucking media personality at his level who has done MORE to try to highlight the left's hypocracy and lunacy than Tucker Carlson. I understand perfectly why the left wants him gone. What I don't understand is why the average ARFCOMMER wants him gone. @Eight_Ring ..Do you think the left gives a shit about its "hypocrisy and lunacy" being pointed out? I don't know what tucker has said. I shut off fox shortly after megan kelly and her bullshit statement after America elected a lot of republicans got to congress to stop obama. megan kelly election night 2014? -->"And there we have it folks, the American people have voted for congress to work with obama to get things done". Ratings obviously dropped. Shortly after carlson started being propped up as the go to expert on everything at all hours of the day... Then he took over megan kelly's spot [who is now on some liberal channel], cnn? A time most people are getting home from work and watching the news. Using the same fucking stupid ass facial expressions while listening to a guest. Squinty eyes, big eyes, scrunchy face, confused face, angry face, and many more.... Same game, different mug. Built up to be the expert to play the golden hour. Controlled opposition is a really big fucking thing. Which is why conservatives and the real right is labeled extremists, terrorists, nazis, and alt-right. Except at election time. And now these tools who are only bold enough to point out the hypocrisy of the left, are now all claiming that the election was rigged. Rigged..... Because cnn did not tell its 30,000 viewers about the biden laptop... In other words, it wasn't rigged by election fraud. It was rigged through a "majority of voters not getting the truth". Yet a year ago, it was Trumps mean tweets/the hate for trump. Trump being un-presidencal. All cable media is unfortunately nothing but fucking propaganda mixed with truth to manipulate. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:31:32 PM EST
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Quote HistorySo glad the color on the M35 is back in fashion again.
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:31:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: I’m honestly surprised the TB2 hasn’t flown sorties against the Russian ships yet. Maybe they don’t want to risk them against their air defenses. Or maybe they figure the ships aren’t that vulnerable against the munitions it can drop Agreed to some degree, however most modern warships have their own air search radar and SAM systems - maybe not the smaller troop carrying amphibious ships but most everything else does. Also there is the ability to find the target ship - the water offers no geography to to align things and while ships seem 'large' up close, a FLIR search is like looking through a soda straw when you don't have any cuing, like "oh the tanks are near Or maybe the UKRs are waiting for some other trigger to use the TB2 against them, IDK. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:32:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K5FAL: There's too much jibber jabbering here. I came here to watch videos of Russians getting smoked. Telegram is what you seek. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:33:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBTC_MH: People should go look up the modern day equivalents of Gog, Magog, Meshek, Tubal, Gomer, Beth-Togarmah, Put, and Cush in Ezekiel 38 Edit: I would think that current events when overlayed on prophecy from over 2,000 years ago when give even a secular observer pause…it’s beginning to play out exactly as described. Couple that with scripture that describes what is nearly identical to a CBRN warfare environment and it doesn’t exactly give a warm feeling about what is on the horizon. To save us the trouble of scouring for scripture, can you give specific references @bbtc_mh as I would enjoy reading. Thank you sir. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:36:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: So why would they have US currency? Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOUXrz9XsAge_m8.jpg So why would they have US currency? Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful. Having $28 million in the world currency doesn’t seem useful to you regardless of where you are? |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:38:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: The smart micro-munitions the TB2 have don't have a lot of warhead to them. Under five pounds. Not really great against ships. Its noticeable there aren't a lot of videos of them against tanks, and they tend to focus on ADA vehicles, supply trucks, and other light skinned stuff. I guess unless/until someone tells them the Russian Navy is up to something, focusing on real threats is the priority. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: I'm honestly surprised the TB2 hasn't flown sorties against the Russian ships yet. Maybe they don't want to risk them against their air defenses. Or maybe they figure the ships aren't that vulnerable against the munitions it can drop The smart micro-munitions the TB2 have don't have a lot of warhead to them. Under five pounds. Not really great against ships. Its noticeable there aren't a lot of videos of them against tanks, and they tend to focus on ADA vehicles, supply trucks, and other light skinned stuff. I guess unless/until someone tells them the Russian Navy is up to something, focusing on real threats is the priority. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:38:52 PM EST
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Ukrainian firefighters responding to every missile strike and pulling people out of the rubble in the middle of a war. Ukraine is a country filled 44 million pairs of huge ass balls!
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:39:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: There is actually more US currency in use outside of the US than in the US. It is more widely valued and accepted around the world. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By macro: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOUXrz9XsAge_m8.jpg So why would they have US currency? Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful. There is actually more US currency in use outside of the US than in the US. It is more widely valued and accepted around the world. This. When I was a yacht captain, traveling all over the world, the safe was full of dollars. Nothing else was so universally accepted or desired. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:40:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Honestly. If Maripoul surrenders, russia is probably going to kill a bunch of them. Russia is likely to be totally full of shit about letting people out. Russia is likely to send lots and lots of people to concentration camps or mass graves. And russia will hunt down and execute everybody who is on the lists provided by russian spies. And also if they don't surrender it is going to be nothing good.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Honestly. If Maripoul surrenders, russia is probably going to kill a bunch of them. Russia is likely to be totally full of shit about letting people out. Russia is likely to send lots and lots of people to concentration camps or mass graves. And russia will hunt down and execute everybody who is on the lists provided by russian spies. And also if they don't surrender it is going to be nothing good. I wouldn't trust them, they're going to do the same thing they did in Chechnya. Warning: dead people Click To View Spoiler  The Betrayed |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:40:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: Theodoric]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HiramRanger: Having $28 million in the world currency doesn't seem useful to you regardless of where you are? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HiramRanger: Originally Posted By macro: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOUXrz9XsAge_m8.jpg So why would they have US currency? Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful. Having $28 million in the world currency doesn't seem useful to you regardless of where you are?
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:40:13 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Well he said the reason he was inspired to get into politics was Trudeau so not really a surprise. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By vicpro2: So we gonna mention that Zelensky banned all political opposition parties now? He's the guy fighting for freedom right? Just checking cause he seems to be the same type of sh*tty politician that will use an opportunity to become a dictator just like Putin. There are no good guys to be found, just civilians and soldiers getting screwed. Well he said the reason he was inspired to get into politics was Trudeau so not really a surprise. makes him the perfect candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:40:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7empest]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: I don't think Biden or Macron would even consider it. I think Johnson is a tougher more realistic personality and he has said repeatedly that relations with Russia can never be normalized again without top down change. He's not Reagan or Thatcher, but he's more likely to consider it than anyone else in my opinion. Whatever that is worth. I don't see NATO/EU allowing a tactical nuke used in their backyard. Johnson would be the biggest hawk with an actual launch button. I do wonder what the "Iron Lady" would have to say if she were still alive. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:40:56 PM EST
[#41]
Quote Historylol, balance is restored.
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:41:49 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkiShooter: Round them up and send them back to Putin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkiShooter: Originally Posted By vicpro2: So we gonna mention that Zelensky banned all political opposition parties now? He's the guy fighting for freedom right? Just checking cause he seems to be the same type of sh*tty politician that will use an opportunity to become a dictator just like Putin. There are no good guys to be found, just civilians and soldiers getting screwed. Round them up and send them back to Putin. I wish we could send Ilhan Omar back to Somalia. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:41:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Do we really know Putin's nuclear protocol? Regardless, I'd be willing to bet that if he wants to launch a tactical nuke, it'll fly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By Skywarner: If Putin starts lobbing tactical nukes, the Poles are going in with or without all of NATO supporting it. Yep I think he will do one and done and then his people will kill him for sure. If he can convince, generals all the way down the person pushing the button to do it. It's not like he is actually the one with the button to launch it. All he can do is order it and it has to go through a bunch of people before it actually happens. Do we really know Putin's nuclear protocol? Regardless, I'd be willing to bet that if he wants to launch a tactical nuke, it'll fly. More like "What's that, comrade? I can't *wargglbll*, please say again! Repeat, wargglbll, wargglbbl, comrade! *static*". Somewhere along that chain, someone will decide suicide is not in their best interest. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:41:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Interesting perspective. I feel like he probably wouldn't do it without backing of the others though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By Vengeance6661: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I would think the smart move to a tactical nuke on Kyiv would be a massive cruise missile attack on several major Russian military installations with conventional warheads. But with the strike coming from US, UK, French subs and planes. And then the warning that if they don't withdraw the next step is a full NATO retaliation. Putin would have to back down. Macron, Biden, Johnson would look tough but measured and Russia would be forced to take down Putin internally. Why wouldn't Russia be forced to take down putin prior to a tactical nuke? You're scenario doesn't make sense to me atleast. My opinion is that Russian leadership seeing a joint US/EURO hit that takes out a huge chunk of their military would be a sign that they are about to lose everything if they don't step back. I have no doubt that a large number of people in the Russian govt and military do not want to see their families nuked and would stage a coup or declare Putin unfit. Hopefully if Putin orders a nuclear escalation, someone puts a bullet in him in the Kremlin right then, but who knows. I don't see Biden or Macron responding to a tactical nuke with a nuke in return. Johnson might. But a massive hard conventional hit that decimates the Russian military would be a palatable option to all three of the leaders and likely supported around the world. And it would play well in an election year. What makes you think Johnson would do it when America/France won't ? I am curious. I don't think Biden or Macron would even consider it. I think Johnson is a tougher more realistic personality and he has said repeatedly that relations with Russia can never be normalized again without top down change. He's not Reagan or Thatcher, but he's more likely to consider it than anyone else in my opinion. Whatever that is worth. I don't see NATO/EU allowing a tactical nuke used in their backyard. Johnson would be the biggest hawk with an actual launch button. Interesting perspective. I feel like he probably wouldn't do it without backing of the others though. I agree with you. Half of NATO will be screaming for retaliation, half will be under the desks. Only three leaders have a button. I would see the hawks trying to get Johnson on their side to pressure the US. But who knows, we are in new territory. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:42:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Telegram is what you seek. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Originally Posted By K5FAL: There's too much jibber jabbering here. I came here to watch videos of Russians getting smoked. Telegram is what you seek. Please tell which Telegram channels |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:43:45 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Denazification….. Azov battalion... |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:44:25 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Telegram is what you seek. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Originally Posted By K5FAL: There's too much jibber jabbering here. I came here to watch videos of Russians getting smoked. Telegram is what you seek. And new stuff really doesn't get released until about 11am-4pm EST. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:44:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: Krater]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By getchevyn: Please tell which Telegram channels https://t.me/ButusovPlus |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:45:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I like the one the Jewish members of Azov wear. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By netstorm: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/images/azov-bn.gif I like the one the Jewish members of Azov wear. @stone-age Can you show me? Not calling you out, genuinely curious, and haven't made it through the entire thread yet. Several pages behind. Does Azov have Jewish members? It's basically an argument of "Are they Nazis, or are they Ultra-nationalists promoting Ukraine." |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 7:45:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: So why would they have US currency? Unless they are coming here, that doesnt seem real useful. |
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