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Posted: 4/9/2022 9:55:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Not much fog to be honest as they claimed it as a glorious victory only to backtrack/blame Ukraine when they found out it was a bunch of women and children. https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Solzhenitsyn-on-Lying.jpg Thanks, that makes sense. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:02:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: They tortured a 78 year old Soviet veteran to death. There were other pictures of him inside his house with a Soviet naval ensign hung up. They have moved from targeting Jew Nazis to Soviet Nazis. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/78689AFF-105C-4687-BB08-70B0D41C5758_jpe-2342994.JPG In rare amusing war news,a territorial army group I mentioned many pages ago as being Eesti backed now has a great patch. Bob Marley Squad https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/C0889B19-E51B-4E31-BE10-213BFDFF9B7B_jpe-2342995.JPG They have so far fought from Kyiv up to being within sight of the Chernobyl sarcophagus https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/606989C6-952A-47AC-A18C-00E0B0CDE074_jpe-2343029.JPG Oh shit! There will be hundreds here wanting to know where to get that patch, but afraid to ask. 
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:03:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDC: It's a casual thread which has some smart people participating in it. The abbreviations above were common and germane to the subject matter. It's incumbent upon the reader to do some research and learn what they mean. Google is not very helpful when researching obscure military acronyms. I ran across a post that had 4 I didn't know. I was interested so I asked. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:03:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Saw that sick crap, needs to be shown or at least availeble for Arfcom's mentally compromised Russia sympathy crowd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
This story is going to blow up. This shit is fucked. There's a disgusting video of him with an actual baby in the comments. Don't watch it if you already have high blood pressure.  Saw that sick crap, needs to be shown or at least availeble for Arfcom's mentally compromised Russia sympathy crowd. I'd bet we'd hear a lot of things like "isolated events", "but in Iraq...", "war is hell", etc. as they quickly return their heads to the sand. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:05:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: realwar]
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Russians mourn deaths of soldiers
 Russians mourn deaths of soldiers Turkish drone is so effective, Ukrainian troops are singing about it  Turkish drone is so effective, Ukrainian troops are singing about it |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:09:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Kyiv:
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:13:47 AM EDT
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 Zelenskyy calls Kramatorsk train station rocket strike a war crime | USA TODAY |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:23:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Ukraine could always annex Kaliningrad… then trade it for Crimea.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:23:46 AM EDT
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I think this is a good article showing how much more competent the Ukrainians are than the Russians.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a39651567/nova-basan-ukraine-military-photos/ |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:33:08 AM EDT
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Interesting thoughts on how a fallen Russia would reform or be reshaped.
 What would happen if Russia collapsed? |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:42:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:42:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpaceGuy: Checked past three pages, no mention. From twitter: Samuel Ramani @SamRamani2 Japan removed Ukraine's Azov Battalion from its list of terrorist organizations, where it was previously described as a Neo-Nazi group This has caused an immediate escalation of tensions with Russia Come on Japan, channel your inner Bushido that’s been dormant all these years. You know you want to. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
As much as I want people on the right to win elections world-wide, this is a prime example that they're not all good persons. Gotta be more careful who you cheer for. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:46:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I know European politics is odd, but in what world are the "far right" and Putin on the same team? Authoritarians. The "right" in the US is different in that regard to some degree. Our "right" involved a healthy dose of liberalism. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:48:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
This story is going to blow up. This shit is fucked. I don’t really talk shit like this but….. If I had seen this person commit this crime I’d have ZERO problem “doing the needful” I wouldn’t feel bad. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:49:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: EU President: "Your fight is our fight.", membership fast tracked.*  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TLETXE_35Y*That comes with a big fat asterisk: First you have to survive. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:50:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I know European politics is odd, but in what world are the "far right" and Putin on the same team? Putin pretends to be a strong christian(he does) He is extremely anti gay. Like he’s made all of Russia an ANTI gay country. He talk about how he is anti gobohomo constantly and how soros is controlling the world. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:50:30 AM EDT
[#18]
More info on the Boris Johnson visit.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has held talks in Kyiv with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky, Downing Street has said. No 10 said the visit was "show of solidarity" with Ukraine. A spokesman said Mr Johnson was using the trip to set out a new package of financial and military aid. It comes the day after Mr Johnson announced 100m of weapons for Ukraine after the bombing of refugees at a railway station. The spokesman said: "The prime minister has travelled to Ukraine to meet President Zelensky in person, in a show of solidarity with the Ukrainian people," he said. "They will discuss the UK's long-term support to Ukraine and the PM will set out a new package of financial and military aid." A picture of the meeting was posted online by the Ukrainian embassy in London. The Ukrainian embassy in London tweeted a picture of the two leaders meeting face to face. In a Facebook post, Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office said: "The UK is the leader in defence support for Ukraine. The leader in the anti-war coalition. The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor." |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:50:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hking]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: I don’t really talk shit like this but….. If I had seen this person commit this crime I’d have ZERO problem “doing the needful” I wouldn’t feel bad. This guy and anyone that stood by and let him do it should be fed feet first into a woodchipper. Child rapists and those that enable them deserve death, no questions asked.
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:53:33 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: I'll show you my titties if you send money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP5eRLoXwAMWpMx?format=jpg&name=small https://www.instagram.com/dirtydozeneira/ https://i.imgur.com/jsLigHC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/O9iDHS1.jpg I'll show you my titties if you send money. The money is to help kill Orcs. The boobs are a bonus. 
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:53:37 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: This guy and anyone that stood by and let him do it should be fed feet first into a woodchipper. Child rapists and those that enable them deserve death, no questions asked.There is NO place in any civilization for people like this. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:55:07 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
This story is going to blow up. This shit is fucked. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:55:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Easterner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Oh shit! There will be hundreds here wanting to know where to get that patch, but afraid to ask. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By outofbattery: They tortured a 78 year old Soviet veteran to death. There were other pictures of him inside his house with a Soviet naval ensign hung up. They have moved from targeting Jew Nazis to Soviet Nazis. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/78689AFF-105C-4687-BB08-70B0D41C5758_jpe-2342994.JPG In rare amusing war news,a territorial army group I mentioned many pages ago as being Eesti backed now has a great patch. Bob Marley Squad https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/C0889B19-E51B-4E31-BE10-213BFDFF9B7B_jpe-2342995.JPG They have so far fought from Kyiv up to being within sight of the Chernobyl sarcophagus https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/606989C6-952A-47AC-A18C-00E0B0CDE074_jpe-2343029.JPG Oh shit! There will be hundreds here wanting to know where to get that patch, but afraid to ask. Ha! That patch was a best seller when we went to the gun shows. Unfortunately I don't have anymore in stock.  I finally got a shipment out with possibly the last of the true Azov patches. I can't keep anything from them in stock either. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 10:59:49 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryGreat photo. That's one for the history books. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:00:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDC: It's a casual thread which has some smart people participating in it. The abbreviations above were common and germane to the subject matter. It's incumbent upon the reader to do some research and learn what they mean. @FDC The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:00:44 AM EDT
[#26]
The Iranians are getting the shitty end of the international political stick lately. I guess this is what happens when you publicly announce your intentions to supply Russia with 20 billion dollars of manufactured goods. Their list of allies grows thin.
President Raisi says Iran will not retreat from 'nuclear rights' Iran imposes sanctions on 15 U.S. officials as nuclear talks stall Hamas and other Palestinian groups in the Gaza Strip have attacked Bahrain and Turkey for condemning last Thursday's terror attack in Tel Aviv. On Friday, Bahrain condemned the attack, describing it as a "terrorist operation." "We reiterate the Kingdom of Bahrain's position that opposed all forms of terrorism and violence no matter the motives and justifications," the foreign ministry said in a statement. The Turkish Embassy in Israel condemned the terrorist attack and expressed concern over the recent increase in such attacks. The embassy offered condolences to the families of those who lost their lives in the attack, as well as the Government and the people of Israel. The United Arab Emirates (UAE) Embassy in Israel said in a statement that it "condemns the terrorist attack and expresses its condolences to the families of the victims of this dreadful act." Hamas slams Bahrain, Turkey for condemning Tel Aviv attack |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:00:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Looking further, the bottom 20% in Russia accounts for 5.5% of all income https://www.statista.com/statistics/1018199/combined-income-distribution-in-russia-by-population-level/ Ukraine that figure is 10.3% https://www.statista.com/statistics/1264567/ukraine-income-distribution-by-decile-group/ So while the average Russian is slightly wealthier than the average Ukrainian, the Ukrainian poor are actually doing much better than their Russian counterparts. So if the conscripts are predominantly from the poorest areas (which sounds plausible), that anecdote is a lot more credible than I thought. I retract my skepticism. Right. Russia's GDP/person is vastly skewed by exports of oil and natural resources. The AVERAGE income follows that trend and favors Russia by a huge margin. I did some quick digging around and the MEDIAN monthly income is actually in favor of Ukraine, $750 vs $450. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:03:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: No more acronyms allowed. Thank You z  There's only one Z on this forum, and it ain't you.
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:07:05 AM EDT
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BBC News report.
War in Ukraine: Inside Chernobyl after the Russian occupation Chernobyl nuclear power plant can be accessed again, after returning to Ukrainian control. The plant, in the north of the country, was seized by Russian troops on the first day of the invasion, but has been taken back by Ukraine's armed forces. The BBC's Yogita Limaye was one of the first journalists to enter the site, and spoke to some of the people who work there. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:08:25 AM EDT
[#30]
How Ukraine, Crimea and the Japan/Kuril Islands conflicts are related;
 Why Russia is Fighting Japan Over These Islands |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:12:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: The Iranians are getting the shitty end of the international political stick lately. I guess this is what happens when you publicly announce your intentions to supply Russia with 20 billion dollars of manufactured goods. Their list of allies grows thin. President Raisi says Iran will not retreat from 'nuclear rights' Iran imposes sanctions on 15 U.S. officials as nuclear talks stall Hamas slams Bahrain, Turkey for condemning Tel Aviv attack GOOD. I hope some of these countries have noticed that there's been a big change in public opinion and a new willingness to confront evil. China is a lost cause but I still hope India stops their idiotic neutrality stance. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:12:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Ha! That patch was a best seller when we went to the gun shows. Unfortunately I don't have anymore in stock. I finally got a shipment out with possibly the last of the true Azov patches. I can't keep anything from them in stock either. I'd like one of these. How can I get one? |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:12:42 AM EDT
[#33]
Corpses of Russians are collected throughout Ukraine
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:13:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: He's one of the Jackson 5. Duh. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By FDC: It's a casual thread which has some smart people participating in it. The abbreviations above were common and germane to the subject matter. It's incumbent upon the reader to do some research and learn what they mean. You got really purty words. I had to look up "germane" He's one of the Jackson 5. Duh.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:20:59 AM EDT
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With all these high profile EU deligation visits to Ukraine ... one most agree the West has air assets inside Ukraine ... at least until the visits conclude ...
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:25:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: More info on the Boris Johnson visit. Johnson travels to Kyiv for Zelensky talks Groovy baby. I got to hand it to PM Austin Powers, the UK has really stepped up. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:25:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiG-21: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26154/9AA74EA0-E882-46BA-B663-2BE2D38939CE_jpe-2343136.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:26:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:26:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: realwar]
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Trans: The work of the self-propelled ATGM "Shturm-S" south of Izyum
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:26:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RolandofGilead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: I have some skepticism of these types of stories that portray Ukraine as significantly more prosperous than Russia. The GDP per capita and especially median income data doesn't line up with that concept. That being said, Fuck Russia and we should be helping Ukraine more. The post war situation should build Ukraine back more prosperous than Russia Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By outofbattery:
I have some skepticism of these types of stories that portray Ukraine as significantly more prosperous than Russia. The GDP per capita and especially median income data doesn't line up with that concept. That being said, Fuck Russia and we should be helping Ukraine more. The post war situation should build Ukraine back more prosperous than Russia I haven't been to Ukraine, but I've been to Russian villages....which is where most of their soldiers came from. It's rough living. Often no running water, dilapidated houses etc. SPB and Moscow are pretty nice in general, but even there you have some pretty run down areas and apartment buildings with multiple families living in one apartment and extremely poorly taken care of buildings. So it's plausible this is happening, but I agree should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe one of our Ukrainian members can compare to the above. Eta sorry guys I'm way behind the power curve here |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:27:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I know European politics is odd, but in what world are the "far right" and Putin on the same team? The European Left/Right political spectrum is nothing like the American spectrum. That's where people often get confused. The spectrum has also evolved over time. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177432/FP6KJbFX0AUrwy3_jpg-2343159.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By MiG-21: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26154/9AA74EA0-E882-46BA-B663-2BE2D38939CE_jpe-2343136.JPG 
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:29:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I know European politics is odd, but in what world are the "far right" and Putin on the same team? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By outofbattery: She also took money from Putin and published campaign flyers with a photo of them together,knowing that her base supports him. She also has said a few times that she wants France to leave NATO as the USSR doesn’t exist anymore and that France needs to help end Iran’s isolation -I shall remind everyone where Khomeini was in exile. I know European politics is odd, but in what world are the "far right" and Putin on the same team? Enemy of my enemy is a friend + dumb tribalism overlooking their crimes + objective analysis without regard for social niceties of the moment = they'll appear that way. It's a shame. Parts of the right which could have pulled an Azov decided to shoot themselves in the foot instead. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:29:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: You understand a couple pieces of data but aren’t getting what it means in the real world. @governmentman Russia has a much different distribution of wealth. Yes,there are Ukrainian oligarchs and very poor people in Ukraine but the massive wealth gap between the top 100 Russians and the 140 million under them has a considerably different distribution of wealth than in Ukraine that isn’t as easily seen just with statistics. Moscow and Saint Petersburg are a world different to Pskov,let alone different to innumerable rural villages in European Russia to say nothing of Asiatic Russia. The suburbs of Kyiv are absolutely wealthier in absolute terms than the poorest parts of Ukraine but are certainly not wealthy by American or Western European standards but that is irrelevant because the marauders have come from very poor places. It has been discussed but since you have missed it will say it again: the Russian army is made up of the bottom of society. Urban families do not send their children to the army,they don’t. The Russians -and especially the Dagestsnis,Tuvans,Buryats…-sent to Ukraine are the poorest. If you grew up here https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/C0B1A0DA-CEE9-49A3-815C-53A4C3DCC9F9_jpe-2342946.JPG or https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/59C12062-7B59-4106-8422-35BD390A1D6D_jpe-2342950.JPG Ukrainians living in apartments or tiny brick houses who have iPhones and Nutella would seem wealthy to them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By governmentman: I have some skepticism of these types of stories that portray Ukraine as significantly more prosperous than Russia. The GDP per capita and especially median income data doesn't line up with that concept. That being said, Fuck Russia and we should be helping Ukraine more. The post war situation should build Ukraine back more prosperous than Russia You understand a couple pieces of data but aren’t getting what it means in the real world. @governmentman Russia has a much different distribution of wealth. Yes,there are Ukrainian oligarchs and very poor people in Ukraine but the massive wealth gap between the top 100 Russians and the 140 million under them has a considerably different distribution of wealth than in Ukraine that isn’t as easily seen just with statistics. Moscow and Saint Petersburg are a world different to Pskov,let alone different to innumerable rural villages in European Russia to say nothing of Asiatic Russia. The suburbs of Kyiv are absolutely wealthier in absolute terms than the poorest parts of Ukraine but are certainly not wealthy by American or Western European standards but that is irrelevant because the marauders have come from very poor places. It has been discussed but since you have missed it will say it again: the Russian army is made up of the bottom of society. Urban families do not send their children to the army,they don’t. The Russians -and especially the Dagestsnis,Tuvans,Buryats…-sent to Ukraine are the poorest. If you grew up here https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/C0B1A0DA-CEE9-49A3-815C-53A4C3DCC9F9_jpe-2342946.JPG or https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/59C12062-7B59-4106-8422-35BD390A1D6D_jpe-2342950.JPG Ukrainians living in apartments or tiny brick houses who have iPhones and Nutella would seem wealthy to them. To put my above post in perspective, the villages I've been to weren't even as bad as those. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:33:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiG-21: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26154/9AA74EA0-E882-46BA-B663-2BE2D38939CE_jpe-2343136.JPG Dupe. Ya got beat son. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/OFFICIAL-Russo-Ukrainian-War-Thread/5-2499714/?r=-1&page=1547&anc=98159213#i98159030 |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:33:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP5eRLoXwAMWpMx?format=jpg&name=small https://www.instagram.com/dirtydozeneira/ https://i.imgur.com/jsLigHC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/O9iDHS1.jpg OMG. And Buccee's as well. Amazing. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:34:59 AM EDT
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I’m sick of seeing Zellinsky everywhere. He’s the only dude that can be all over the so called war zone and never risk getting harmed by anything. The Austrian president came to visit in Kyiv and they strolled around town.
Are the Russians so pathetic that they can’t find this guy already? Seems like all they’d have to do is schedule a tv interview with him. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:38:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RolandofGilead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556therapy: I’m sick of seeing Zellinsky everywhere. He’s the only dude that can be all over the so called war zone and never risk getting harmed by anything. The Austrian president came to visit in Kyiv and they strolled around town. Are the Russians so pathetic that they can’t find this guy already? Seems like all they’d have to do is schedule a tv interview with him. What else should he be doing but trying to get the world on his side? He's 100% doing the right thing. So called war zone? 
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:39:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: I don’t really talk shit like this but….. If I had seen this person commit this crime I’d have ZERO problem “doing the needful” I wouldn’t feel bad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
This story is going to blow up. This shit is fucked. I don’t really talk shit like this but….. If I had seen this person commit this crime I’d have ZERO problem “doing the needful” I wouldn’t feel bad. Seems like a legitimate case for summary execution in the field by a commander. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:39:26 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556therapy: I'm sick of seeing Zellinsky everywhere. He's the only dude that can be all over the so called war zone and never risk getting harmed by anything. The Austrian president came to visit in Kyiv and they strolled around town. Are the Russians so pathetic that they can't find this guy already? Seems like all they'd have to do is schedule a tv interview with him.  Attached File |
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