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Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:06:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SEAN10MM:


Hilarious. "Hey Igor, look at this stuff in my hands".....
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From an NBC unit
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:06:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:07:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:


The old USSR used to show propaganda of US traffic in gridlock or heavy rush hour and say there was no order in the US. Then the people started noticing that everyone seemed to have a car in the US.
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That's someting the late P.J. O'Rourke would have said.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:08:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556therapy:
I’m sick of seeing Zellinsky everywhere. He’s the only dude that can be all over the so called war zone and never risk getting harmed by anything. The Austrian president came to visit in Kyiv and they strolled around town.

Are the Russians so pathetic that they can’t find this guy already? Seems like all they’d have to do is schedule a tv interview with him.
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Those sub human pieces of shit do not appear to have the ability to do much other than be cruel to people who cannot defend themselves.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:08:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By omar:


They are separate pieces of rotten fruit from the authoritarian "ism" tree.
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I know European politics is odd, but in what world are the "far right" and Putin on the same team?


They are separate pieces of rotten fruit from the authoritarian "ism" tree.


The far right and far left are at :29 and :31 on a clock face.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:09:23 PM EDT
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$.75 per round, no hagglin',  I know what I got!
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:09:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilverBearX:

Because they are a bunch of undisciplined savages that were hung out to dry by their command and within four days of no resupply and being cut off they went full on lord of the flies.
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Originally Posted By 53vortec:
Ok someone help me out here. I don't doubt that the Russians committed atrocities in Bucha, but why'd they do it?

Because they are a bunch of undisciplined savages that were hung out to dry by their command and within four days of no resupply and being cut off they went full on lord of the flies.

Oh it’s worse than that. It’s because they were ordered to as the purpose of the invasion. The stated goal by Putin himself in front of the whole world was the elimination of the Ukrainian identity.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:10:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 53vortec:
Ok someone help me out here. I don't doubt that the Russians committed atrocities in Bucha, but why'd they do it?
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A better question might be, after all the times they've raped and pillaged in the last 115 years, why would anyone be surprised that they did it AGAIN?!?!????
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:11:22 PM EDT
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Shock wave

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That was crazy.

That one guy crossing the parking lot took cover on the wrong side of that car. Poor dude had a hard time getting back up... and everyone else was too busy running for their lives to help him.

So sad.

Fuck Russia.

never been in a rocket attack so I have some questions about what I'm seeing here.

dude looks like he just tripped and fell down. how can he be injured? shouldn't it look like he got hit with a giant invisible flyswatter?

lots of glass breaks and falls into the yard, but I don't see anything else damaged or even moving. windows on opposite building aren't affected, no damage to cars, dumpster doesn't move, tree branches don't move. how is that supposed to wiork?

why does the BARROOOOM noise go on for 10 seconds? why do the windows shatter and the webcam gets hit only in the middle of it? because there are multiple explosions and they are hit by one of them?

Shock wave

In physics, a shock wave (also spelled shockwave), or shock, is a type of propagating disturbance that moves faster than the local speed of sound in the medium. Like an ordinary wave, a shock wave carries energy and can propagate through a medium but is characterized by an abrupt, nearly discontinuous, change in pressure, temperature, and density of the medium.

does not answer my questions at all.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:11:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 53vortec:
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That is what the Russian military does.

For starters read about the "Rape of Berlin"
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:12:47 PM EDT
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Guy acts like he's immortal, like a God.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:12:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 53vortec:
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You do what you know and what you've trained for...
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:13:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:15:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:

"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.

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20% is decimated. They fucked up.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:15:53 PM EDT
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Odd user name for someone with family in Germany
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Follow-up comment in regards to Germany: I know they are an easy target and I completely agree that they brought their dependence on Russian fuel on themselves. But consider this: I read German news websites daily, I talk to my friends and family. The attitude shift since February 24th has been nothing short of incredible. The sense of betrayal felt by Germany and common German citizens for what Russia did is completely palpable. They have come to the hard realization that you can't diplomacy yourself out of a war when the other guy isn't willing to.

But realize that all of this takes time. You can't have a country of 90 Million go from one position to an almost 180 degree opposite in just one month. I am very encouraged by the moves that I'm seeing and I hope they continue. While you may be angry, realize that it's not going to change completely overnight.


Odd user name for someone with family in Germany

Plus, it probably is heavily weighted on what he would like to happen, and not so much as what's happening.  Germans tend to do what Germans want with less regard to other nations.  It is that is what is embedded into their culture.  Keep in mind that getting along with neighbors is a relatively new thing for western Europe compared to over the centuries.

They tend to view themselves as "enlightened" and more evolved in world views, and thus more peaceful that most.  That's the reason why so many in Germany think of Americans as cowboys.  More enlighten, evolved, and peaceful is a common belief among socialists nations too.  It's practically a prerequisite.

You can see that trait among our American socialists in Congress.

Germans typically look at Americans as crude, blue-collar, and militaristic society.  That's probably why they outsource their military defense to USA.  They cannot be bothered with spending money and keeping an adequate standing military themselves.

They will go back to how it was before Russia invaded Ukraine.  That is keep buying gas from Gazprom, reducing military spending, and all the other stuff they were doing.

I have relatives that are German politicians now, and some that were infamous German politicians in the past. Those relatives of today do everything they can to hide that.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:17:07 PM EDT
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Either that or we’re all being played.
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Lol. Time for more thread streamlining.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:19:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shenanigunz:
This has got to be a deepfake or the subtitles are fake or something, right?  If not, holy shit, Russia, keep your drunken idiots away from the podium.



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Now you understand what your posts look like to 95% of the people here.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:19:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

Lol. Time for more thread streamlining.
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LoL Jokes on you the propaganda made you believe there is even a thread!


Checkmate!
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:19:56 PM EDT
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Guy acts like he's immortal, like a God.
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Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:20:02 PM EDT
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Slovakia has delivered its S-300 long-range SAM missile defense system to Ukraine.

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Originally Posted By 53vortec:
Ok someone help me out here. I don't doubt that the Russians committed atrocities in Bucha, but why'd they do it?
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 Because they have been told the Ukrainians are Nazis,that they have been murdering thousands of Russians for 8 years,that they have attacked Russia,that they have built bio labs to attack Russians,that they have banned the Russian language and engineered a coup against the rightful government…

 You know,every single assorted ridiculous assertion that  morons have made on here to justify Russia’s invasion…sadly.


 Add to this a complete lack of leadership,a basic lack of humanity,jealousy,opportunity and alcohol and you’re getting rape and murder.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:20:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

20% is decimated. They fucked up.
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"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.


20% is decimated. They fucked up.

Decimated twice over, given that decimated is 10%
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:20:55 PM EDT
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I Understand Israel's Position on Ukraine. I Still Wish It Would Do More | Opinion

Some background on the Israeli Government’s relationship with Russia. It’s complicated but IMO as someone who’s grandparents are from Liviv on my father’s side and Zhytomer Oblast on my mother’s side Israel along with Hungary and Turkey needs to get off the fuckin pot and follow the example of the IDF veterans who have boots on the ground in Ukraine.

Slava Ukraini

Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:21:58 PM EDT
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Guy acts like he's immortal, like a God.
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Guy acts like he's immortal, like a God.


lol wut
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:29:19 PM EDT
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lol wut
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Originally Posted By elcope:

Guy acts like he's immortal, like a God.


lol wut

The way he walks around seemingly without fear of death.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:30:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

20% is decimated. They fucked up.
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"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.


20% is decimated. They fucked up.


Well, technically its double decimated.

And I suspect the US estimates are conservative.  It looks like the northern forces lost around half of their troops either KIA or WIA and at least that much equipment.

Consider a Russian tank battalion, at full strength, has ~40 tanks.  Each BTG is formed around a motor rifle or tank battalion with attached artillery and support units.

As of 4 days ago, Ukraine counted 684 Russian tanks lost.  That’s 17 BTGs worth of tanks.  Russia had positioned around 100 BTGs for their Ukraine invasion (out of 170 total).  Note: those 100 aren’t all tank BTGs - and Russia has lost even greater numbers of light armored vehicles. So probably another 17-25 BTGs worth of equipment losses.  

Which means their equipment losses are closer to 40% of the forces committed to the invasion and 20-25% of their total active forces.

Those are absolutely catastrophic losses for 44 days of fighting.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:30:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

20% is decimated. They fucked up.
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"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.


20% is decimated. They fucked up.

Technically, 10% is decimated.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:31:49 PM EDT
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Everybody here poo pooing Israel is an illiterate moron. Did you guys miss the first sentence "according to RUSSIAN publication...."???

Beyond that, like others have said, Russia has basically given carte blanche, and possibly even helped Israel decimate terrorists in Syria. As soon as Russia starts saying no more cooperation, the risk to reward for Israel on those missions becomes too great, and they face a massive build up of well funded terrorists on their NE borders. Not to mention no countries are "selling" arms to UA. Their giving them to them. No country on Earth lives under the same constant existential threat day in, day out, for the past 70 years as Israel. If they don't want to deplete their stockpile of weapons, can you blame them? Even if they did, you same turds would be saying "how could they just give away weapons paid for by US dollars!"

Regardless, they've voted against Russian in every vote (no abstentions) and the foreign minister is saying the same thing as everyone else in the Western world. Lastly, secret deals are secret, and you can be damn sure there are a lot of them going round with UA. Just because NewsMax or whoever doesn't know about 100% of the aid going in and out doesn't mean a lot. Not all countries want their help to UA to be public.

All the arm chair warriors who have absolutely no risk, regardless of the situation, or strategic decisions made, virtually anywhere in the world, need to stfu a second.
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Originally Posted By anono:
Everybody here poo pooing Israel is an illiterate moron. Did you guys miss the first sentence "according to RUSSIAN publication...."???

Beyond that, like others have said, Russia has basically given carte blanche, and possibly even helped Israel decimate terrorists in Syria. As soon as Russia starts saying no more cooperation, the risk to reward for Israel on those missions becomes too great, and they face a massive build up of well funded terrorists on their NE borders. Not to mention no countries are "selling" arms to UA. Their giving them to them. No country on Earth lives under the same constant existential threat day in, day out, for the past 70 years as Israel. If they don't want to deplete their stockpile of weapons, can you blame them? Even if they did, you same turds would be saying "how could they just give away weapons paid for by US dollars!"

Regardless, they've voted against Russian in every vote (no abstentions) and the foreign minister is saying the same thing as everyone else in the Western world. Lastly, secret deals are secret, and you can be damn sure there are a lot of them going round with UA. Just because NewsMax or whoever doesn't know about 100% of the aid going in and out doesn't mean a lot. Not all countries want their help to UA to be public.

All the arm chair warriors who have absolutely no risk, regardless of the situation, or strategic decisions made, virtually anywhere in the world, need to stfu a second.
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Good points..
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Well, technically its double decimated.

And I suspect the US estimates are conservative.  It looks like the northern forces lost around half of their troops either KIA or WIA and at least that much equipment.

Consider a Russian tank battalion, at full strength, has ~40 tanks.  Each BTG is formed around a motor rifle or tank battalion with attached artillery and support units.

As of 4 days ago, Ukraine counted 684 Russian tanks lost.  That’s 17 BTGs worth of tanks.  Russia had positioned around 100 BTGs for their Ukraine invasion (out of 170 total).  Note: those 100 aren’t all tank BTGs - and Russia has lost even greater numbers of light armored vehicles. So probably another 17-25 BTGs worth of equipment losses.  

Which means their equipment losses are closer to 40% of the forces committed to the invasion and 20-25% of their total active forces.

Those are absolutely catastrophic losses for 44 days of fighting.
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:

"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.


20% is decimated. They fucked up.


Well, technically its double decimated.

And I suspect the US estimates are conservative.  It looks like the northern forces lost around half of their troops either KIA or WIA and at least that much equipment.

Consider a Russian tank battalion, at full strength, has ~40 tanks.  Each BTG is formed around a motor rifle or tank battalion with attached artillery and support units.

As of 4 days ago, Ukraine counted 684 Russian tanks lost.  That’s 17 BTGs worth of tanks.  Russia had positioned around 100 BTGs for their Ukraine invasion (out of 170 total).  Note: those 100 aren’t all tank BTGs - and Russia has lost even greater numbers of light armored vehicles. So probably another 17-25 BTGs worth of equipment losses.  

Which means their equipment losses are closer to 40% of the forces committed to the invasion and 20-25% of their total active forces.

Those are absolutely catastrophic losses for 44 days of fighting.

Given the makeup of the Russian military, and the apparent use of “crack” troops, mere percentages may not tell the full story either.

If the best units fielded were crushed, and what’s coming in next is patched crushed units and flotsam, the Russian conventional military as an apparent peer threat to the top 10 militaries is probably already over.

That’s world changing.
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Originally Posted By Drakich:


Well, technically its double decimated.

And I suspect the US estimates are conservative.  It looks like the northern forces lost around half of their troops either KIA or WIA and at least that much equipment.

Consider a Russian tank battalion, at full strength, has ~40 tanks.  Each BTG is formed around a motor rifle or tank battalion with attached artillery and support units.

As of 4 days ago, Ukraine counted 684 Russian tanks lost.  That’s 17 BTGs worth of tanks.  Russia had positioned around 100 BTGs for their Ukraine invasion (out of 170 total).  Note: those 100 aren’t all tank BTGs - and Russia has lost even greater numbers of light armored vehicles. So probably another 17-25 BTGs worth of equipment losses.  

Which means their equipment losses are closer to 40% of the forces committed to the invasion and 20-25% of their total active forces.

Those are absolutely catastrophic losses for 44 days of fighting.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By SWIRE:

"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.


20% is decimated. They fucked up.


Well, technically its double decimated.

And I suspect the US estimates are conservative.  It looks like the northern forces lost around half of their troops either KIA or WIA and at least that much equipment.

Consider a Russian tank battalion, at full strength, has ~40 tanks.  Each BTG is formed around a motor rifle or tank battalion with attached artillery and support units.

As of 4 days ago, Ukraine counted 684 Russian tanks lost.  That’s 17 BTGs worth of tanks.  Russia had positioned around 100 BTGs for their Ukraine invasion (out of 170 total).  Note: those 100 aren’t all tank BTGs - and Russia has lost even greater numbers of light armored vehicles. So probably another 17-25 BTGs worth of equipment losses.  

Which means their equipment losses are closer to 40% of the forces committed to the invasion and 20-25% of their total active forces.

Those are absolutely catastrophic losses for 44 days of fighting.

But the Generals assured Putin that they had 10,000 cruise missiles, 20K tanks, 50K armored vehicles, and 2 million crack troops ready to unleash hell anytime, anywhere...  I think Putin's next question will be how much Polonium and Novichok they have left.
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If they are dug in and have good supply lines they will be a lot tougher than the forces that tried to move on Kyiv with limited supplies.
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Their supply lines are pretty much constantly shitty. Being dug in makes you an easier target for drones and artillery. This is going to suck mightily for them.
Having 80% of the troops you started with means nothing when they are hungry, tired, and no real will to fight.
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Ok someone help me out here. I don't doubt that the Russians committed atrocities in Bucha, but why'd they do it?
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Because they and their culture is sub-human filth that has done nothing positive for mankind in the last 105 years,brought up to believe they are superior to everyone else. Sounds sort of like the culture of a short, mustached Austrian we all know from years past.
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Now you understand what your posts look like to 95% of the people here.
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Originally Posted By Shenanigunz:
This has got to be a deepfake or the subtitles are fake or something, right?  If not, holy shit, Russia, keep your drunken idiots away from the podium.




Now you understand what your posts look like to 95% of the people here.


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My eyes are offended by that, and I demand restitution.
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This is seems so "white trash ignorant with money" tacky to me.

https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/article_1360/08/_124077748_13.jpg

The alleged mistress of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Svetlana Krivonogikh, is renting out a luxury four-story apartment in St. Petersburg  complete with its own moat, according to a media investigation published Thursday.

The BBC's Russian service unearthed the listing on the website of German luxury brokerage Engel & Vlkers. The ad priced the "Residence on Kamenny Island"  a 19th-century retreat for imperial royalty  at 700,000 rubles ($8,700) per month, minus 90,000 rubles ($1,130) for utilities.

The listing was taken offline early Friday.
The BBC were able to link Krivonogikh to the apartment through registry papers that listed her as the owner of the 447,400-square-meter residence.
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For Rent: Investigation Exposes Putin Mistress' Elite St. Petersburg Apartment

My eyes are offended by that, and I demand restitution.


"I has opulence..."
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

Their supply lines are pretty much constantly shitty. Being dug in makes you an easier target for drones and artillery. This is going to suck mightily for them.
Having 80% of the troops you started with means nothing when they are hungry, tired, and no real will to fight.
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:

If they are dug in and have good supply lines they will be a lot tougher than the forces that tried to move on Kyiv with limited supplies.

Their supply lines are pretty much constantly shitty. Being dug in makes you an easier target for drones and artillery. This is going to suck mightily for them.
Having 80% of the troops you started with means nothing when they are hungry, tired, and no real will to fight.

Hopefully we can get them a constant stream of TB-2's and Switchblades.  I don't know how much stocks there are on Switchblades, but we should be sending a planeload every day if it exists.  Cheapest solution overall.
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Russian & Ukrainian Drones Over NATO Territory

Russian & Ukrainian Drones Over NATO Territory
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The way he walks around seemingly without fear of death.
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Should he be hiding under a table in a bomb proof bunker or something? Is that what a leader does?

I think he is displaying an amazing level of courage to his fellow countrymen. He probably is scared, but he knows he has to put on a strong appearance right now.
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From what I can tell it's real. She the PIO for the Russian MFA.

I can only imagine how the wheels are falling off behind the scenes in the top levels of the Russian government.
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This has got to be a deepfake or the subtitles are fake or something, right?  If not, holy shit, Russia, keep your drunken idiots away from the podium.



From what I can tell it's real. She the PIO for the Russian MFA.

I can only imagine how the wheels are falling off behind the scenes in the top levels of the Russian government.

I some some references to a cook book in an earlier post adn assumed it was a joke.

Can someone please explain the borscht cook book incident?

And for Gods sake leave the Germans out of it or I'll go home and punch your momma right in the mouth!
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“Anti-ship missile systems”…..love the sound of that.

Prime Minister pledges UK’s unwavering support to Ukraine on visit to Kyiv: 9 April 2022

Prime Minister Boris Johnson meets President Zelenskyy in Kyiv and pledges to stand by the Ukrainian people.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said:

"It is a privilege to be able to travel to Ukraine and meet President Zelenskyy in person in Kyiv today.
Ukraine has defied the odds and pushed back Russian forces from the gates of Kyiv, achieving the greatest feat of arms of the 21st century.
It is because of President Zelenskyy’s resolute leadership and the invincible heroism and courage of the Ukrainian people that Putin’s monstrous aims are being thwarted.
I made clear today that the United Kingdom stands unwaveringly with them in this ongoing fight, and we are in it for the long run.
We are stepping up our own military and economic support and convening a global alliance to bring this tragedy to an end, and ensure Ukraine survives and thrives as a free and sovereign nation.”

The Prime Minister set out new military assistance of 120 armoured vehicles and new anti-ship missile systems to support Ukraine in this crucial phase while Russia’s illegal assault continues. This is in addition to the £100 million worth of high-grade military equipment announced yesterday, including more Starstreak anti-aircraft missiles, another 800 anti-tank missiles, and high-tech loitering munitions for precision strikes.

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God I hope they get those anti ship missles qickly and put them to use against those amphibious ships outside odessa
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How much artillery does Ukraine have left?  Seems like we could be sending trainloads of 155mm from NATO stocks and they could hammer the Southern offensives with that?  Would it be hard to cross train their guys on NATO arty?  Seems like that would be a to shorter learning curve versus fighters and SAMs.
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The way he walks around seemingly without fear of death.
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according to oryx, russians are about 2700 losses

While Ukraine is about 700

The Uke's are almost at a 4-1 kill ratio!

oh and the captured russian vehicles is about 1000, yeah Ukraine's gaining more vehicles than losing as far as we can tell.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:47:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilverBearX:

Because they are a bunch of undisciplined savages that were hung out to dry by their command and within four days of no resupply and being cut off they went full on lord of the flies.
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Originally Posted By 53vortec:
Ok someone help me out here. I don't doubt that the Russians committed atrocities in Bucha, but why'd they do it?

Because they are a bunch of undisciplined savages that were hung out to dry by their command and within four days of no resupply and being cut off they went full on lord of the flies.


My theory:

All the murder and rape happened well in advance of them being cut off and run out. "The atrocities" were part of the plan from the beginning. The cover up - crematoriums and the vans to haul off everyone to siberia - never took place. They had to do shit like quick dump bodies in the sewer because they were out of time.

... Dark as fuck, granted. I just don't see anything to disprove it.
Link Posted: 4/9/2022 5:47:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shenanigunz:
This has got to be a deepfake or the subtitles are fake or something, right?  If not, holy shit, Russia, keep your drunken idiots away from the podium.




Now you understand what your posts look like to 95% of the people here.



Is borscht prep their version of beans or no beans?
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God I hope they get those anti ship missles qickly and put them to use against those amphibious ships outside odessa
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I agree, but what would they be sending?  No one seems to think that UK has a land launch capability for the Harpoon.  I don't know what else they have?  Shore launched anti-ship seems to be a hole in the NATO cupboard.
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That makes for a less than positive fitness report.
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It may affect more than one promotion.
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Pro-Russian soldiers inspect streets of besieged Mariupol

Pro-Russian soldiers inspect streets of besieged Mariupol
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Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Given the makeup of the Russian military, and the apparent use of “crack” troops, mere percentages may not tell the full story either.

If the best units fielded were crushed, and what’s coming in next is patched crushed units and flotsam, the Russian conventional military as an apparent peer threat to the top 10 militaries is probably already over.

That’s world changing.
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"unnamed sources".  US DoD sources state Russia's is operating with 80-85% of what they started with.


20% is decimated. They fucked up.


Well, technically its double decimated.

And I suspect the US estimates are conservative.  It looks like the northern forces lost around half of their troops either KIA or WIA and at least that much equipment.

Consider a Russian tank battalion, at full strength, has ~40 tanks.  Each BTG is formed around a motor rifle or tank battalion with attached artillery and support units.

As of 4 days ago, Ukraine counted 684 Russian tanks lost.  That’s 17 BTGs worth of tanks.  Russia had positioned around 100 BTGs for their Ukraine invasion (out of 170 total).  Note: those 100 aren’t all tank BTGs - and Russia has lost even greater numbers of light armored vehicles. So probably another 17-25 BTGs worth of equipment losses.  

Which means their equipment losses are closer to 40% of the forces committed to the invasion and 20-25% of their total active forces.

Those are absolutely catastrophic losses for 44 days of fighting.

Given the makeup of the Russian military, and the apparent use of “crack” troops, mere percentages may not tell the full story either.

If the best units fielded were crushed, and what’s coming in next is patched crushed units and flotsam, the Russian conventional military as an apparent peer threat to the top 10 militaries is probably already over.

That’s world changing.


Right. They were “drafting” old men in Donetsk and sending them straight into battle with shit gear and no training.  I doubt the newly raised conscripts will be given much training either before they are sent into the meat grinder.  And given how poorly the top tier troops and equipment performed so far, mobilizing the reserves and bringing rusted T-72s out of mothball suggests their main use is to be meatshields to soak up UA precision ordnance before they can target artillery, ADA, and air assets.  

So basically the Russian strategy is going to shift entirely to static defensive lines with terror attacks on civilians and infrastructure via artillery and cruise missiles because their ground forces are total shit.  Like sub-Iraqi levels of shit.
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