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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Wonder how Russell Bentley is doing? Hopefully in an advanced stage of decomposition. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By polishkebasa: The OHP really proved themselves as durable little ships. On paper the capabilities of an Slava class cruisers is an order of magnitude higher than something like an OHP, the original mission of these vessels being to attack USN carrier task forces implying they would survive at least long enough to expend their missiles. I doubt we will ever really know the exact circumstances of what happened, and there is always some luck in these situations as it seems that there might have been an hit to the RBU magazine. The rimpac 2016 video is always a cool watch, although I do not think the ship any ordnance onboard from he lack of fires but if some one knows, I would like to know!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVsnUsbJ-XkHere's a good video of the effects of the Joint strike missile/Naval Strike missile with a smaller warhead than the harpoon or neptune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um3_6NM6II4USN damage control is truly unequalled. The british were losing ships after one missile in the falklands. The Russians larger ships after two. The Usn be like: hold my bug juice |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:41:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm:
Something something Cash for Clunkers?  im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Bullshit. The strategic bombing campaign cost us a similar fraction of our war expenditure that it cost the germans. Basically a wash, with the exception of Ploeste. Really? How many times did we have to rebuild factories? How many of ours were underground? Winning a war isnt only about how much you spend. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:43:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Something something Cash for Clunkers? im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles Sure... For money. (Which neither the Russian government nor the Russian people will have.) |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Updated thread on battle lines and action in east UA. Quick, good read that’s just a few hours old.
Thanks for posting. That’s worth a follow. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: Sure... For money. (Which neither the Russian government nor the Russian people will have.) Yup, China will cut them a deal....but they request rights to some of that Russian oil....and maybe a little bit of land..... You done messed up A-A-Ronski |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:46:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: Sure... For money. (Which neither the Russian government nor the Russian people will have.) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: Originally Posted By JG_Wentworth: Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Something something Cash for Clunkers? im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles Sure... For money. (Which neither the Russian government nor the Russian people will have.) Russia has something more valuable than money - black gold and other commodities - that trade very well |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Missiles can be jammed, countered, or shot down, and the technology to do so is improving with each passing year. Surface ships have excellent force projection, escort, and security capabilities. Just like with tanks, don't judge the efficacy of surface ships based on the outcome of a 43 year old shit heap operated by one of the world's least competent militaries. USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. The Navy is currently testing a laser system against exactly that threat... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:48:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Element94: Really? How many times did we have to rebuild factories? How many of ours were underground? Winning a war isnt only about how much you spend. We spent a quarter of our war effort on bombing, and the USAF believes in return they reduced German war output by a quarter. That’s a bad investment. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:48:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Element94]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wulfmann: Confession of ignorance (No disrespect intended) Aside from Ploesti and the complete saturation bombing of Normandy to break the stalemate the only thing the allied bombing campaign did was prove we could be as murderous to civilians as the Nazis and force the Germans to become self sufficient without above ground facilities The post war negative affects alone crippled British conscience once the public became aware of the barbarity of bomber command's intentional war on women and children In fairness many British officers were adamantly opposed to the bombing campaign of Germany as it had no military value and was a war crime Of course war crimes are only committed by the losers. Winners of wars can laugh at the dead bodies of children Total bullshit. The Germans were definitely not self sufficient in 1944-45 they had nothing. And what is this conscience crap? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:48:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Wonder how Russell Bentley is doing? Ask Alex Jones or his frequent guest and InfoWars guest host Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal: From the Front Line in Ukraine [with Russel Bentley] - Gerald Celente, March 4th, 2022  From the Front Line in Ukraine - Gerald Celente, March 4th, 2022 They like promoting Bentley and his cause to their audiences, but never mention that Bentley is a diehard communist. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:52:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Ask Alex Jones or his frequent guest and InfoWars guest host Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeHwVsPrbOwThey like promoting Bentley and his cause to their audiences, but never mention that Bentley is a diehard communist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By TylerF: Wonder how Russell Bentley is doing? Ask Alex Jones or his frequent guest and InfoWars guest host Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeHwVsPrbOwThey like promoting Bentley and his cause to their audiences, but never mention that Bentley is a diehard communist. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:54:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Something something Cash for Clunkers? im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles With Chinese tires? 
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: New reports are that Ukrainians killed him. Good shoot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
Good shoot. The Government have him shot for sedition or was it extrajudicial action by concerned citizens? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:55:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Oh I know. Bentley needs a dirt nap courtesy of the UAF. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. I suggested in a university classroom once that killing communists was always self defense and therefore legal at all times and in all places. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:55:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: They have been doing the minimum. Plan A: get Zelensky to flee Ukraine (got all fucked by the UA) Plan B: Make it look like we did all we could but Russia was just too much (also getting fucked by heroic UA. Plan C: We cannot fuck up yet ANOTHER major foreign policy crisis involving war so we gotta do more. Xiden and his team are always 1-2 steps behind on EVERY FUCKING CRISIS. But thankfully, they are able to pivot slowly for the sake of polls and the November election. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Wreckshooter: Biden and his administration have actually signaled the complete opposite. The Biden Admin has given Ukraine $2 billion in aid. Biden got criticized for calling Putin a war criminal and advocating for his ouster. And the US has been key to getting NATO onboard. If he had not done this the war would be over and Zelensky would have fled, been killed, or been captured. And for the record Biden sucks. But him and his handlers haven’t done much wrong re: Ukraine. They have been doing the minimum. Plan A: get Zelensky to flee Ukraine (got all fucked by the UA) Plan B: Make it look like we did all we could but Russia was just too much (also getting fucked by heroic UA. Plan C: We cannot fuck up yet ANOTHER major foreign policy crisis involving war so we gotta do more. Xiden and his team are always 1-2 steps behind on EVERY FUCKING CRISIS. But thankfully, they are able to pivot slowly for the sake of polls and the November election. How were they behind when they were warning the world that Russia was going to invade in December? They called out various Russian false flags before they occurred. And they were criticized world wide for taking that path, and they were right and the naysayers were wrong. And don’t forget that support from the west, including various US Administrations, prepared Ukraine to inflict this quagmire on Russia. Look, Biden is a dunce. But him and his handlers got this mostly right. It’s day 53; did we think this conflict would even get into double digits? Ukraine is doing what they are doing largely due to the US and it’s actions. And that includes Biden’s Admin. Any attempt to argue otherwise is blind political bs. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:55:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panthermark: Yup, China will cut them a deal....but they request rights to some of that Russian oil....and maybe a little bit of land..... You done messed up A-A-Ronski Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panthermark: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Sure... For money. (Which neither the Russian government nor the Russian people will have.) Yup, China will cut them a deal....but they request rights to some of that Russian oil....and maybe a little bit of land..... You done messed up A-A-Ronski Russia is like the guy in the horror flick keeping the monster at bay with a sputtering candle. The threat of nukes is probably the only thing keeping China from taking a big bite out of Siberia, and China has probably done the math on losing a hundred million or so if they did go. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:55:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Oh I know. Bentley needs a dirt nap courtesy of the UAF. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By TylerF: Wonder how Russell Bentley is doing? Ask Alex Jones or his frequent guest and InfoWars guest host Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeHwVsPrbOwThey like promoting Bentley and his cause to their audiences, but never mention that Bentley is a diehard communist. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. With any luck, his comrades got hungry and ate the fat bastard. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: im sure China will be glad to sell Russia some chinese vehicles What are they going to buy them with? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Oh I know. Bentley needs a dirt nap courtesy of the UAF. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By TylerF: Wonder how Russell Bentley is doing? Ask Alex Jones or his frequent guest and InfoWars guest host Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeHwVsPrbOwThey like promoting Bentley and his cause to their audiences, but never mention that Bentley is a diehard communist. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. I was wondering as well (I figured you knew about him but just posted the interview for others - it's nauseating). I also wonder where Russian dual-citizen Stephen Seagal is? He gave a half ass blues concert in Crimea to celebrate in 2014. You would think this pro-Putin "tough" guy Russian citizen would be out there sniping Ukrainians. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:59:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: We spent a quarter of our war effort on bombing, and the USAF believes in return they reduced German war output by a quarter. That’s a bad investment. Well it also kept a huge numberx of artillery pieces, Men and aircraft away from the front on anti air duties. The chopper raid on the fuel depot likely has similar effects. The Russian can keep all there sam's covering the combat area, but then they leave the border open to raids. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:01:06 PM EDT
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Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine?
 Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: The Navy is currently testing a laser system against exactly that threat... Thanks Is the in-testing system a defense against swarms? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:06:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Element94: Really? How many times did we have to rebuild factories? How many of ours were underground? Winning a war isnt only about how much you spend. Not to mention every 88mm gun tube placed on a flak gun was one less artillery piece or tank. Every person manning s flak gun was one less crewing a tank, artillery piece, or manning a machine gun. Etc. Its proven thst by the end of the war, german manufacturing quality and capability had been severely degraded by strategic bombing. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:07:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: The Navy is currently testing a laser system against exactly that threat... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: Originally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Missiles can be jammed, countered, or shot down, and the technology to do so is improving with each passing year. Surface ships have excellent force projection, escort, and security capabilities. Just like with tanks, don't judge the efficacy of surface ships based on the outcome of a 43 year old shit heap operated by one of the world's least competent militaries. USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. The Navy is currently testing a laser system against exactly that threat... I worked on it a few years ago HELIOS it was called. This was an older system we made tested on the USS Portland against drones years before the HELIOS.  USS Portland Downs Drone With Laser |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:07:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Are we? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:09:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine? Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. I cheer the death of any communist. I dont give a fuck what country they come from. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McNamys: Russia has something more valuable than money - black gold and other commodities - that trade very well Neither of which they can transport easily to China. All of Russia's pipelines lead West. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:12:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Thanks Is the in-testing system a defense against swarms? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Cobradriver: The Navy is currently testing a laser system against exactly that threat... Thanks Is the in-testing system a defense against swarms? From the headline I saw on my phone yesterday it was for exactly that. I didn't get a chance to read the article then but I found this... Navy Laser Test 2022 It's getting worked on. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cobradriver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... I see our resident not a troll is back in force. New work week ????  |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Here is an article which has info about leftist Gonzo Lira being promoted by Alex Jones and crew https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/conservative-sympathy-for-russia-in-ukraine-war/458986 . Also, Tucker Carlson's friend and Russian expert Clinton Ehrlich (former Russian government employee) did an hour long interview promoting Lira's bullshit if one is interested it's easy to find. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
They should declare him persona non grata and deport him, he doesn’t merit the cred jailing or shooting him would grant. Here is an article which has info about leftist Gonzo Lira being promoted by Alex Jones and crew https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/conservative-sympathy-for-russia-in-ukraine-war/458986 . Also, Tucker Carlson's friend and Russian expert Clinton Ehrlich (former Russian government employee) did an hour long interview promoting Lira's bullshit if one is interested it's easy to find. A lot of the “Red pill” pundits came down on Putin’s side on Ukraine….Lira is most well known because he’s actually there. They’re fucked and don’t know it yet. They’ve given the liberals exactly what they needed to crush their “movement” with their open Man-crush for Putin. Can’t say I’ll care when it happens, either. Lira is a disgusting ingrate and if they have had him shot he brought it on himself. Though if I were the SBU officer tasked with deciding what to do with him, I’d recommend he just be booted out and never allowed back, he’s not worth the headache…..unless he’s been doing more than just posting nonsense on YouTube. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:14:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Is this justification to cede moral high ground? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:15:58 PM EDT
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UKRAINIAN NEWS FROM UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES 4/18/22
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/sinking-of-russias-moskva-flagship-the-resonance-continues.html https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ukraine-says-five-powerful-missile-strikes-hit-lviv.html https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3460539-medvedchuk-appeals-to-zelensky-putin-to-swap-him-for-besieged-mariupol-residents-defenders.html Putin honors 64th Brigade accused of Bucha massacre  What’s in the latest US military bundle for Ukraine? the new $800 million military aid package for Ukraine includes: 18 155-mm towed howitzers with 40,000 artillery rounds; 10 AN/TPQ-36 counter-battery radars; two AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel air surveillance radars; 300 Switchblade kamikaze drones; 500 Javelin missiles and "thousands of other anti-armor systems"; 200 M113 armored personnel carriers; 100 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (‘Humvee’); 11 Russian-built Mi-17 Hip helicopters; unmanned coastal defense vessels; chemical, biological, radiation, nuclear (CBRN) protective equipment; 30,000 sets of bulletproof vests and helmets; over 2,000 optical and laser rangefinders; C-4 plastic explosives and demolition equipment for mine clearing; M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel mines. Weapons that the United States is now providing to Ukraine. Allegedly, the Russian Mi-17 helicopters remained in the United States after the military campaign in Afghanistan, and they belonged to the now-disbanded Afghan Air Force. These helicopters were developed in the Soviet Union in 1975 based on the Mi-8M, and they are used as medium twin-turbine transport helicopters. But there are also their armed gunship versions. The Mi-17 is in service with almost 80 countries, including Ukraine, Poland, China, the United States, Russia, the Czech Republic, India, Turkey, Hungary, North Korea and more. Combat versions of the helicopters can be equipped with weapons on six hard points, including S-8 missiles, UPK-23-250 gun pods, Ataka anti-tank guided missiles, along with other high-precision munitions next to those and two window machine guns. The main crew of the helicopter comprises three people (two pilots and one engineer), and its capacity is 24 servicemen, or 4,000 kg of cargo, or 5,000 kg of cargo on the external suspension. The maximum takeoff weight of the Mi-17 is about 13.5 tons, while the empty helicopter weighs 7.5 tons. Mi-17 flight range is up to 800 km at a cruise speed of 280 km/h. The service ceiling of the helicopter is 6,000 meters, and the rate of climb is 8 m/s. Humvee SUVs This combat SUV has been used by the U.S. Army since 1984. The vehicle boasts a high clearance; it is suitable for air transport and parachuting. Four-wheel drive Humvees are equipped with petrol and diesel V8 engines from 5.7 to 6.5 liters with an output of up to 160 hp. The maximum speed of the armored car is 113 km/h, and the load capacity is up to two tons, with a curb weight of 2,676 kg. Some versions of the Humvee were equipped with TOW anti-tank systems and even AIM-120 anti-aircraft guided missiles. There are also reinforced armored versions of the car weighing about 4.5 tons, double-cab pickups, and a four-door version with a hard-top body. M113 armored personnel carriers The U.S. M113 armored personnel carrier has been in operation since 1960 and is still in service with many countries around the world, including Ukraine. The M113 is the basis for armored personnel carriers with machine guns and grenade launchers, infantry fighting vehicles with automatic guns, command and staff vehicles with radios, as well as self-propelled mortars, howitzers, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft self-propelled units, anti-aircraft missile systems, flamethrowers, and bridge layers. The tracked M113 can reach speeds of up to 64 km/h and have a maximum range of 320 km. The crew of the armored personnel carrier consists of two people, but up to 11 paratroopers can be carried on board. There are also amphibious versions of the M113, and the maximum thickness of its aluminum armor is 44 mm. Despite the fact that the armored personnel carrier is still used in many countries, it is gradually being superseded by more modern vehicles. 155-mm towed howitzers Operating enhanced U.S. howitzers, which have been used since World War II, will require training for the Ukrainian military. A crew of 11 people is needed to operate each howitzer. The rate of fire of shell casings of separate loading is 4-8 shots per minute. The muzzle velocity of the projectile is 563 m/s, and the maximum firing range is 14.6 km. These howitzers have also been experimentally mounted on a lengthened chassis of the M5 light tank. The variant was adopted as the M41 Howitzer Motor Carriage and took part in fighting in the Korean War. Subsequently, the weapon was replaced by the M44 self-propelled howitzer. AN/TPQ-36 and AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel radar systems Modern U.S. radars also require the training for the Ukrainian military, according to Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby. However, data for 2019 suggests Ukraine had 13 AN/TPQ-36 mobile anti-battery radar units in service. In addition to searching for enemy mortars, artillery, MLRS and missile launchers, the system can also support its own artillery for more accurate aiming and adjustment of fire. The maximum range for the detection of missiles is up to 24 km, and artillery — up to 18 km. The systems can track up to 99 targets. The AN/TPQ-36 is most often towed by the above-mentioned Humvee SUVs. The AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel 3D radar, in turn, is used to alert short-range air defenses, and these radars are in service with forward area U.S. air defense units. The system has been in use since the early 2000s, and its radars can automatically detect, track and identify cruise missiles, drones, helicopters, and aircraft. The effective radar scanning range is up to 40 km, and the radar is also resistant to electronic warfare. The AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel is located far from the main part of the unit, operates autonomously, and communicates with the fire control center via broadband fiber-optic communication line. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:17:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: 30 years ago Russia invades the Chechens' capital city, rapes their women, kills their children, levels it to the ground. Here they are now, fighting on the side of the Russians while they rinse and repeat to a different neighbor. The Chechens are disgusting Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Chechen CO lol https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/9D8F81D5-5658-4D8F-9757-23331605BE93_jpe-2353386.JPG 30 years ago Russia invades the Chechens' capital city, rapes their women, kills their children, levels it to the ground. Here they are now, fighting on the side of the Russians while they rinse and repeat to a different neighbor. The Chechens are disgusting The Kadyrovsky aren’t all Chechens. There are Chechens fighting for Ukraine as well, they consider Kadyrov to be a Quisling. Which he is…he and his father sold thier own people out for money. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:17:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RolandofGilead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Cheering the destruction of the people who are committing rape, murder, and genocide is not ceding anything. Don't be absurd. And you asked a question, I answered it...now you're changing the topic. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:20:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Texas paratrooper and Iraq veteran reveals his reasons for protecting Ukraine
 18 April, 17:48 Автор: Ирина Крикуненко for New Voice of Ukraine Paul, a former U.S. paratrooper and Iraq vet, fighting for Ukraine as part of the Georgian National Legion, talks about his combat experience and his dreams of settling down in Kyiv after the war, in an exclusive interview for NV. During the two months of the war, tens of thousands of foreign volunteers arrived in Ukraine to help its military defend their lands. According to Ukrainian diplomats in the United States, at least 3,000 Americans have joined Ukraine’s cause. One of them is Paul - a paratrooper from Texas. He kept his last name hidden for security reasons but is happy to talk with NV about his experience fighting in Iraq and now in Ukraine, as well as his plans to settle in Kyiv after the war. NV: Tell me a story about your relationship with Ukraine: how did you come here and why did you decide to stay? Paul: I was in the American military, but wanted to live in Europe all my life. Therefore, I moved to Kyiv in October 2020 and have gotten residence since then, because I really like the city and the people here. During COVID-19, the restrictions in America were very difficult and they were better for me in Ukraine. The first time I was here was in October 2014, and the first thing I saw here was the parade of the defenders of Ukraine. So my first impression of Ukraine was patriotism and national pride, which people had in their military and country. It was a great place for an American to move to, so I decided to stay in Kyiv. I worked at a veteran center here and was helping to teach Ukrainian military veterans English. I made some friends, and they showed me Ukraine - they took me to the Carpathian Mountains, and took me on bicycle adventures across the country. NV: When the war started and you decided to fight for Ukraine, what was your motivation? Paul: I was very prepared and ready for war. Many Americans went back to the U.S., but I decided to stay. My friend, an American military journalist here, told me that there would be a war. Therefore, one month ago, I joined a foreign legion military formation, and I started training civilians – teaching Ukrainians basic soldiery. When everything started, I already had lots of food, money in my locker, and a shelter set up at home, for my friends in Kyiv. With the Georgian legion, we began fighting from the first day of the war. NV: What does your family in the U.S. think about your decision to stay in Kyiv? Paul: They were worried for me, but they understand why I want to be here and understand my passion. So they support me now, especially my father. He’s former military too, and he knows I’m here fighting for Ukraine - not for the money, but just because I think it’s a good fight for a soldier to be in. NV: Tell more about your combat experience: where did you fight before, and in which battles have you participated in Ukraine? Paul: I was sent to Iraq to fight many times, and now am well prepared for a long-term war, because I spent many years there. I was wounded in combat and have seen many of my friends killed. I understand that war is a serious thing. In Ukraine, my first fight was in Hostomel with the Georgian legion, and I was very surprised to see that Russian forces came so close to Kyiv in the first two days. Since then, I’ve been participating in combat in the eastern parts of Kyiv, and the most powerful experience I’ve seen was in the villages of Lukianivka and Hostroluchia. Schools, churches, and civilian homes were destroyed in just a few weeks that the Russians were there. It’s horrible for me to watch what's happening to Ukraine – I went to Mariupol last April for a weekend, I have been in Kharkiv for Christmas. NV: Why it is important for foreign military volunteers to help Ukraine win this war with Russia? Paul: This isn’t a war for money, It’s a war for people. This is a war to defend the very concept of freedom - for people to have the right to exist. Ukrainians have their own history, language, and have fought so many times against different occupations, and became a founding member of United Nations. People have said they support freedom, liberty, and democracy for people, and they must show this support now. If they were waiting for the time to stand up and fight for these kinds of things – this time is now. This is the biggest and most important war in Europe since World War II. If you are a military man and you can fight – it’s a good thing to fight for. The best example of war for a good reason. I fought many times before, because it was my job, my duty as American solder to go and fight when I’m asked. But this time it wasn’t my job. It is my moral duty. I was living in Ukraine, Kyiv adopted me and, of course, I have to stay here to help and fight. NV: What do you like in Ukraine the most, and what is your favorite place here? Paul: I think Ukraine is very similar to my home state of Texas – it’s the same size, the people look the same, and they also have traditional folk music. The food is also similar to Texas – grilled meat and fish. In many ways, Ukraine reminds me of home: I liked to go to the Sea of Azov because it reminds me Gulf of Mexico in Texas. It was my favorite place to go when traveling. Another thing I like about Ukraine is that you can get on a train and go anywhere in the country, without any worries and pretty cheaply. It would be nice to have the same in America. NV: How did you see the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war and what is your plan for the future? Paul: Honestly, I don’t know when the war will be finished. My plan is to stay in Kyiv and help my new friends start their lives over again. I want to spend this summer in Kyiv and try to be as happy as possible. I’ve saved a lot of money during my life in Kyiv, and now I’d like to start a business in Ukraine – open a gym, or like a typical Miami beach bar. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:21:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Are we? I hear this all the time. See it very very little outside of some really obvious (and quickly banned) trolls |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Can anyone dream of a reason they might have intentionally chosen to scuttle her? Fear of a tactical nuke burning and spewing radioactive smoke? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By RickJames1999: To me it seems to match that it was hit, but didn't sink right away (not uncommon if you study Naval Warfare). Their Damage Control likely sucks and they were unable to stop the fire, which seems to be still burning the morning after. Expect it blew up after the fires got somewhere things go boom or just succumbed to the damage and rolled. Regardless, it's a kill. Fear of a tactical nuke burning and spewing radioactive smoke? She was launched in 1979. She is long past her service life especially considering shitty Soviet building practices and shitty Soviet and Russian maintenance. Even if they saved her she was never sailing under her own power again. Even in 1979 she was a capability expected to be lost quickly. 43 years later she is nothing but a symbol. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:23:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Meh.. I hope the Ukrainians stack every last orc and orc sympathizer in their country. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:23:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Cheering the destruction of the people who are committing rape, murder, and genocide is not ceding anything. Don't be absurd. And you asked a question, I answered it...now you're changing the topic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Cheering the destruction of the people who are committing rape, murder, and genocide is not ceding anything. Don't be absurd. And you asked a question, I answered it...now you're changing the topic. Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:23:42 PM EDT
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(CNN)The US believes that Russia is learning from its failures in the north of Ukraine, where they did not have the proper capabilities to sustain military operations, and applying those lessons to their new focus in the east and the south of the country, according to a senior US defense official. "What we have seen over the last few days is them continue to try to set the conditions," the senior defense official said in a call with reporters on Monday. "We call it shaping operations." "It appears as if they are trying to learn from the failed lessons of the north where they didn't have proper sustainment capabilities in the area they were about to operate," the official said. The official said that the US has seen Russia moving in "heavy artillery," "command and control enablers" and "aviation, particularly rotary aviation support" as part of the 11 new battalion tactical groups that have moved into the east and south of Ukraine "over the last few days." Russia is massing troops and appears close to taking the southeastern port city of Mariupol. CNN reported on Monday that the fate of Mariupol is hanging on an unknown number of defenders making their last stand at an iron and steel plant. Heavy fighting was still going on in the city on Monday, according to Petro Andriushchenko, an adviser to the city's mayor. Russia's disjointed and at times chaotic operation in the north of Ukraine has been well-documented and their early military failures largely came as a surprise to US and western officials. Since Russia launched its assault on Ukraine on February 24, it has bombarded Ukrainian cities with missiles and artillery, destroying apartments, hospitals and schools and leaving scores of civilians dead. But its ground invasion has largely stalled and Moscow has failed to seize key cities, including Kyiv, amid fierce resistance from the Ukrainians and what senior defense officials have described as tactical errors. The US assesses that Russia has added 11 battalion tactical groups (BTGs) to their forces in the east and south since late last week, according to the senior US defense official, bringing Russia's total number of BTGs to 76. "They have added to their capability inside Ukraine," the official said. The official said that all Russian ground forces are currently focused in the east and south of Ukraine, but the US is unable to pinpoint exactly how the new BTGs are spread out. In preparation for a new type of fight on the open plains of southeast Ukraine right next to Russia, the US is providing Kyiv with the types of high-power capabilities some Biden administration officials viewed as too much of an escalation risk a few short weeks ago. The new, $800 million weapons package represents the starkest sign to date that the war in Ukraine is shifting -- and with it, the weapons Ukraine will need if it hopes to continue to stymie a Russian military that has regrouped and resupplied after its initial failures in the opening weeks of the war. The Biden administration announced that the new package included 11 Mi-17 helicopters that had initially been earmarked for Afghanistan, 18 155 mm Howitzer cannons and 300 more Switchblade drones, in addition to radar systems capable of tracking incoming fire and pinpointing its origin. This package stands out from previous security assistance in part because this tranche includes more sophisticated and heavier-duty weaponry than previous shipments. A US official told CNN last week that's by design, arguing that because Russia, which was unable to capture Kyiv, has shifted its strategy to concentrate forces in eastern Ukraine, the US is shifting its own strategy in what it gives Ukraine. "The contours of what they need is very different," the US official said. Several of the weapons systems are complex enough that the Pentagon has said it will need to provide training for Ukrainians outside the country, as was previously provided for the Switchblade drones, with the senior defense official saying that training on the Howitzers will begin "in the next several days." "We'll try to get opportunities for a small number of Ukrainians to be familiarized with these systems," said Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby at a briefing with reporters last week, "but we don't believe that it's going to be an onerous task or lengthy in time or in resources." |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: I see our resident not a troll is back in force. New work week ???? Back from a weekend of spring cleaning at the dacha. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:26:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Neither of which they can transport easily to China. All of Russia's pipelines lead West. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By McNamys: Russia has something more valuable than money - black gold and other commodities - that trade very well Neither of which they can transport easily to China. All of Russia's pipelines lead West. There is pipeline east >> Russia - China pipeline - not oil but gas - may have read of an oil pipeline in planning as well but I forget where and couldn't find in a cursory search "Russia already sends gas to China via its Power of Siberia pipeline, which began pumping supplies in 2019, and by shipping liquefied natural gas (LNG). It exported 16.5 billion cubic metres (bcm) of gas to China in 2021." |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:26:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiberius: The Kadyrovsky aren’t all Chechens. There are Chechens fighting for Ukraine as well, they consider Kadyrov to be a Quisling. Which he is…he and his father sold thier own people out for money. Maybe it's the propaganda working on me (genuinely, not to be snarky) I regularly see clips of the "TikTok Brigade" and it's just smiling/happy Chechens fuckin around mixed in with combat footage. They all look and sound very Chechen. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: My son,Mark Tarasov,disappeared without any information on the cruiser Moskva. The parents know he’s gone but the government hasn’t told them anything about it yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By outofbattery: The parental orcs are wondering where their orclings might be https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/BAD1912C-DB94-43E2-BA1C-EF2C0A7FA828_jpe-2352736.JPG What does that say for those of us that don’t speak alphabet? My son,Mark Tarasov,disappeared without any information on the cruiser Moskva. The parents know he’s gone but the government hasn’t told them anything about it yet. Your son was on the Moskva? Did I get that right? If so you have my greatest condolences. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Back from a weekend of spring cleaning at the dacha. Roland is the Russian Troll?  The guy with an 03 join date who's posted vacation pics? |
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