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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: 30 years ago Russia invades the Chechens' capital city, rapes their women, kills their children, levels it to the ground. Here they are now, fighting on the side of the Russians while they rinse and repeat to a different neighbor. The Chechens are disgusting I’ve said this before here but those fighting for Putin are not true Chechens. They are betrayers to their kind. They are Kadyrovtsi- just thugs loyal to Ramzan Kadyrov. Him and his old man were fighting the Russians in the 1st Chechen war and it’s aftermath right up to when Putin became president. They sold out their people for ungodly amounts of money that Putin started pumping into their pockets. Don’t forget, Akhmad was assassinated by Chechen rebels after he sold out to Putin. Kadyrov keeps a tight leash on the Chechen population through intimidation, kidnapping, torture, and executions. Anyone steps out of line or questions anything his little regime does, get disappeared. Notice how anytime you see a video of Chechen fighters, they’re all yelling Akhmad sila? All thugs loyal to Kadyrov. It’s like a cult. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: People find a burning need to do apologetics for Trump on everything. After a while, it's like really? And you wonder why 80% of Russia supports Putin? Not saying there's any similarities, but, does someone need to make an excuse for everything that happened under him? Because after a while, the explanations begin to sound like, well, excuses, more than anything. I figure Trump was real close to his democrat friends, even if TV didn't really pick up on it, and that most of the bickering was for show, like, IDK, wrestling, or something to that effect. So, yeah, he was buds with Epstein, and Clinton, and involved with pornstars, and probably compromised, and, more than likely, the Rookies did help him to get elected. Neither he, nor his administration, nor anyone on the opposite side of the aisle, did anything to stop their Antifa pets on their summer rampage, wearing their cute little hammer and sickles on their all black uniforms. He did do something to stop anyone else from doing anything until January 6th, when he was no longer concerned with winning the election, and those people got thrown under the bus and sent to prison. So, yeah, there was a side chosen, and it wasn't our side. At least, not until inauguration day, when he had to hand over the reigns, and then, magically, we found America again. I'm not sure Trump would have done anything to stop Putin from doing what he did in Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Originally Posted By Tiberius: Triggered much? To the best of my knowledge, Manafort was hired to get Trump through the 2016 GOP convention, due his work on Gerald Fords campaign in ‘76 and probably because he couldn’t find any other GOP operative with experience willing to work for him. The Feds, apparently, knew all about his work for Yakunovich but didn’t care until the Establishment decided Trump had to go. That, to me, is rather telling. The funniest thing about it is that I doubt Manafort even knew anything Mueller could use….because I doubt Trump trusted him enough to include him in whatever shenanigans he was involved in. Anyhow, Manafort was always bitching because Trump wasn’t listening to his advice and probably would have quit if he didn’t desperately need the money. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea I think the 2020 Election had anything to do with it…it’s all about 2016, Russiagate, and the first Dem attempt to Impeach Trump. There are people out there who blame Ukraine for helping the Dems with that. I doubt Putin would have made his move if Trump were Re-elected, mainly because he couldn’t predict how Trump would react…not out of Trumps diplomatic brilliance or anything like that. It’d been interesting to see if the Dems rallied behind him or if they developed a “strange new respect “ for Putin because ORANGEMANBAD. People find a burning need to do apologetics for Trump on everything. After a while, it's like really? And you wonder why 80% of Russia supports Putin? Not saying there's any similarities, but, does someone need to make an excuse for everything that happened under him? Because after a while, the explanations begin to sound like, well, excuses, more than anything. I figure Trump was real close to his democrat friends, even if TV didn't really pick up on it, and that most of the bickering was for show, like, IDK, wrestling, or something to that effect. So, yeah, he was buds with Epstein, and Clinton, and involved with pornstars, and probably compromised, and, more than likely, the Rookies did help him to get elected. Neither he, nor his administration, nor anyone on the opposite side of the aisle, did anything to stop their Antifa pets on their summer rampage, wearing their cute little hammer and sickles on their all black uniforms. He did do something to stop anyone else from doing anything until January 6th, when he was no longer concerned with winning the election, and those people got thrown under the bus and sent to prison. So, yeah, there was a side chosen, and it wasn't our side. At least, not until inauguration day, when he had to hand over the reigns, and then, magically, we found America again. I'm not sure Trump would have done anything to stop Putin from doing what he did in Ukraine. An apologetic? Not really. I’m just beyond tired of the Dems and Never-Trump’s hysterical attempts to pin a crime on Trump no matter how thin the evidence is. It’s part of the reason a lot of people refuse to believe Democrats on Putin and Ukraine now. One thing I have to grant, though, is that it’s educated me on how cringe the efforts to run Clinton out of office truly was. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:48:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:50:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: https://i.ibb.co/BqccWMm/20220418-132443.jpg What I want to know...is what is actually going on in Belarus...seems a lot of good people live there up to including gov't officials that oppose Russia...yet...here we are... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:51:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GenYRevolverGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Missiles can be jammed, countered, or shot down, and the technology to do so is improving with each passing year. Surface ships have excellent force projection, escort, and security capabilities. Just like with tanks, don't judge the efficacy of surface ships based on the outcome of a 43 year old shit heap operated by one of the world's least competent militaries. USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. That attack was 35 years ago, and the ship targeted was launched 42 years ago. I'm not saying it's not relevant, but technology has changed since then, and the USN has almost certainly learned some things. It's probably also worth considering that USS Stark was hit during a war in which the US wasn't a belligerent. The defensive posture of the ship would have been different. As far as carriers and other major ships go, the USN doesn't have them operating in isolation. They are parts of formations, and the ships surrounding them are part of screens defending them against aircraft, surface threats, and submarines. I'm not a sailor, and I have no detailed knowledge of how the modern day USN does this, but they've had some form of this going on since WWII. These sorts of photos are taken for publicity reasons, but you get the idea:  In reality, these ships would be a good distance apart, and anything attacking a carrier would have to get past the frigates, the destroyers, the cruiser, air cover, and anything else that might be in the group. I won't make the claim that bad things can't happen. Missile technology is also improving with time. But it's not like the US will have cruiser or larger ships bumbling around in close proximity to a hostile nation. ETA: It's also worth mentioning that the US Navy is the best in the world at damage control. That matters, and it matters a lot. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: That's funny, I just had a medical doctor friend of 10 years who is a conservative Charasmatic Christian and another friend of 40 years who is also a Charismatic Christian, tell me that this is all bullshit and that the video footage is from Afghanistan and that the Ukrainian army are killing their own people. They both also said that Putin is the good guy and that Ukrainians are all Nazis run by the CIA. No shit, many conservative Christians are rooting for Putin and deny all this. Pretty fucking sad. Just heard a Christian talk show this morning called What's Left What's Right where the host, a pastor, had a guy on spouting the same bullshit. The pastor/host had been raising money for some Christian groups in Ukraine. I wonder if he will stop. (I didnt hear the whole episode and will have to check on who the guest was.) So, if anyone wants to know why I post so much info about Kremlin propaganda affecting conservatives in the USA, this is why. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By HIPPO: Appeal by UA 36th Marines BDE CO from Mariupol.
That's funny, I just had a medical doctor friend of 10 years who is a conservative Charasmatic Christian and another friend of 40 years who is also a Charismatic Christian, tell me that this is all bullshit and that the video footage is from Afghanistan and that the Ukrainian army are killing their own people. They both also said that Putin is the good guy and that Ukrainians are all Nazis run by the CIA. No shit, many conservative Christians are rooting for Putin and deny all this. Pretty fucking sad. Just heard a Christian talk show this morning called What's Left What's Right where the host, a pastor, had a guy on spouting the same bullshit. The pastor/host had been raising money for some Christian groups in Ukraine. I wonder if he will stop. (I didnt hear the whole episode and will have to check on who the guest was.) So, if anyone wants to know why I post so much info about Kremlin propaganda affecting conservatives in the USA, this is why. You aren't wrong. I'm seeing the exact same thing around here. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:52:45 PM EDT
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The implications for the Zumwalts are unfortunate.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Everything else they make sucks, why should their grenades be any different!  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By joshdb50: eastern bloc grenades suck dick. had one thrown at my vic in Iraq. By all rights, I should have caught frag, did not... me and vic commander smoked the bitch that tossed it. Everything else they make sucks, why should their grenades be any different! This is true, has a russian frag thrown at me in afghan and went off literally like 5 feet away. Should have been dead. Not a scratch. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:54:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Oh GD, never change I’m supposed to be extraordinarily saddened a dude who fled to Ukraine to spout anti American and pro Russian propaganda is dead? 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:56:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: castlebravo84]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiyaboa: After a long, hard fight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiyaboa: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By HIPPO: The phallic victory bit in the last paragraph has me in stitches. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif Originally Posted By Papposilenus: We're way above my pay grade so, grain of salt. I suspect Putin planned to Thunder Run to Kiev and take the Eastern Oblasts quickly. No muss no fuss. Zelensky was supposed to get to the chopper and leave room for a puppet oligarch to step into the roll. Belarus 2.0. This plan failed. That fell apart and I suspect plan B was to aggressively replace Zelensky. Basically, Ukraine called their bluff requiring destruction of some infrastructure in this attempt. They need a coward to demonize and not a Martyr to build a resistance around, Zelensky and the Capitol weren't bombed. This plan also failed. Now with the replacement of the Ukrainian state off the table I suspect plan 3 became seizure of large areas of Eastern Ukraine and eventual "peace keepers." We saw extensive deployment involvement of the Rosgaurd (sp) This meant no longer caring about keeping certain cities or population centers. This plan failed. They're left with the south eastern oblasts and Crimea. I suspect they're attempting to take and hold a land bridge and the separatist regions. I don't think this looks good for them based on Ukrainian statements regarding "we're not negotiating for territory." I expect they'll try for another offensive, but Ukraine benefits more from time than Russia. Entrenching, defensive works, evacuation of civilians- vs an economy that should start to feel the sanctions profoundly in the coming month or two. If this fails I expect they'll try to hold the separatist oblasts and Crimea. If that fails they'll try to hold Crimea. If all that fails- the Phallic victory remaining for Putin is "we got the Nazis, you're welcome" And whatever territory they can keep. "Uh...Phallic victory I'm pretty sure is the right word...I know it starts with a P....close enough" After a long, hard fight. A long hard fight with a messy climax. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:56:56 PM EDT
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For the record if the dude was a Zelenskyy supporting American in Belgorod I wouldn’t care either. Stupid games/stupid prizes.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The implications for the Zumwalts are unfortunate. Everything about the Zumwalts is unfortunate. 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:57:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: "Uh...Phallic victory I'm pretty sure is the right word...I know it starts with a P....close enough" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By HIPPO: The phallic victory bit in the last paragraph has me in stitches. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif Originally Posted By Papposilenus: We're way above my pay grade so, grain of salt. I suspect Putin planned to Thunder Run to Kiev and take the Eastern Oblasts quickly. No muss no fuss. Zelensky was supposed to get to the chopper and leave room for a puppet oligarch to step into the roll. Belarus 2.0. This plan failed. That fell apart and I suspect plan B was to aggressively replace Zelensky. Basically, Ukraine called their bluff requiring destruction of some infrastructure in this attempt. They need a coward to demonize and not a Martyr to build a resistance around, Zelensky and the Capitol weren't bombed. This plan also failed. Now with the replacement of the Ukrainian state off the table I suspect plan 3 became seizure of large areas of Eastern Ukraine and eventual "peace keepers." We saw extensive deployment involvement of the Rosgaurd (sp) This meant no longer caring about keeping certain cities or population centers. This plan failed. They're left with the south eastern oblasts and Crimea. I suspect they're attempting to take and hold a land bridge and the separatist regions. I don't think this looks good for them based on Ukrainian statements regarding "we're not negotiating for territory." I expect they'll try for another offensive, but Ukraine benefits more from time than Russia. Entrenching, defensive works, evacuation of civilians- vs an economy that should start to feel the sanctions profoundly in the coming month or two. If this fails I expect they'll try to hold the separatist oblasts and Crimea. If that fails they'll try to hold Crimea. If all that fails- the Phallic victory remaining for Putin is "we got the Nazis, you're welcome" And whatever territory they can keep. "Uh...Phallic victory I'm pretty sure is the right word...I know it starts with a P....close enough" a Freudian typo I'm leaving it, works better as is |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 600 out of 1,000 are casualties in one RF unit. Damn.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneedsville: Shame they couldn't have sent more supplies before they were surrounded. Were extra resources allocated there originally if taking it was a known Russian objective? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneedsville: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: It's not about money. Those guys are completely cut off and surrounded, and have been for a while. There aren't really any options to resupply them. Shame they couldn't have sent more supplies before they were surrounded. Were extra resources allocated there originally if taking it was a known Russian objective? You have to remember that, in the beginning of this war, we went from "will Russia actually invade" to Russia being in the suburbs of Kyiv and holding much of Eastern Ukraine very quickly. Mariupol wasn't exactly high on the priority list at that point. There are also indicators that, so some extent, Ukraine was running helicopter missions to fly supplies in and casualties out at some point, but the Russians shot one down, and there is no longer a viable LZ, even if Ukraine wanted to take that chance again. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:00:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: That attack was 35 years ago, and the ship targeted was launched 42 years ago. I'm not saying it's not relevant, but technology has changed since then, and the USN has almost certainly learned some things. It's probably also worth considering that USS Stark was hit during a war in which the US wasn't a belligerent. The defensive posture of the ship would have been different. As far as carriers and other major ships go, the USN doesn't have them operating in isolation. They are parts of formations, and the ships surrounding them are part of screens defending them against aircraft, surface threats, and submarines. I'm not a sailor, and I have no detailed knowledge of how the modern day USN does this, but they've had some form of this going on since WWII. These sorts of photos are taken for publicity reasons, but you get the idea: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Abraham-Lincoln-battlegroup.jpg In reality, these ships would be a good distance apart, and anything attacking a carrier would have to get past the frigates, the destroyers, the cruiser, air cover, and anything else that might be in the group. I won't make the claim that bad things can't happen. Missile technology is also improving with time. But it's not like the US will have cruiser or larger ships bumbling around in close proximity to a hostile nation. ETA: It's also worth mentioning that the US Navy is the best in the world at damage control. That matters, and it matters a lot. The stark was 1/3rd the size of the Moskva (4100 tons to 12490 tons) and also got hit twice and still survived and was repaired. The Russian navy is a joke |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:02:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I've actually got an older article with some interesting info that sheds some light on this I'll post later when I get home and can get the link. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD: Originally Posted By M-1975: Code Pink was funded with Soviet money from the beginning - it's just a bunch of commies reliving their hippy glory days. It's not horseshoe theory, it's Russia-funds-whatever-causes-chaos theory. Exactly, Russia Funds Conservative honeypots, BLM, Code Pink, Q-Anon groups, Hispanic Separatists, Anarchists, and more. They target easily manipulated groups who already are angry and want change. I've actually got an older article with some interesting info that sheds some light on this I'll post later when I get home and can get the link. Russian-Bought Facebook Ads Sought To Amplify Political Divisions - September 26, 2017 "The apparent goal of the ads, the sources who spoke with CNN said, was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos around the 2016 presidential campaign, not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr, a Republican, told reporters Tuesday that the use of Facebook and other social media platforms by Russian-linked accounts appears to be about creating chaos on both ends of the political spectrum, not necessarily collusion between the Trump camp and Russian officials." And a few more links of interest to show the lengths they go to. You can actually see it at work here on ARFCOM from certain accounts. Fake Black Activist Social Media Accounts Linked To Russian Government Fake Twitter Accounts Stoked NFL ‘Take a Knee’ Debate Facebook Says Russia-Linked Ads That Reached Millions Of Americans Continued To 'Sow Division' And Undermine Trump – Not Hillary – Even After The 2016 Election Growing Evidence That Russia Using ‘The Resistance’ To Stoke Division Russia's Military Creates Force To Wage 'Information Warfare' Trolling For Putin: Russia's Information War Explained And probably one of the more in depth articles on the subject, the NYT stumbling into an accidental act of journalism: The Agency - From A Nondescript Office Building In St. Petersburg, Russia, An Army Of Well-Paid “Trolls” Has Tried To Wreak Havoc All Around The Internet — And In Real-Life American Communities (If you hit the paywall on the NYT link, just look up the URL on http://www.archive.org) |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:06:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: I’ve said this before here but those fighting for Putin are not true Chechens. They are betrayers to their kind. They are Kadyrovtsi- just thugs loyal to Ramzan Kadyrov. Him and his old man were fighting the Russians in the 1st Chechen war and it’s aftermath right up to when Putin became president. They sold out their people for ungodly amounts of money that Putin started pumping into their pockets. Don’t forget, Akhmad was assassinated by Chechen rebels after he sold out to Putin. Kadyrov keeps a tight leash on the Chechen population through intimidation, kidnapping, torture, and executions. Anyone steps out of line or questions anything his little regime does, get disappeared. Notice how anytime you see a video of Chechen fighters, they’re all yelling Akhmad sila? All thugs loyal to Kadyrov. It’s like a cult. I mean that's kind of how their entire society works from my understanding. Very traditional, very close family ties, ruled by a strong-man. If they were fighting in almost any other conflict I could understand it but the parallels here, and the limited amount of time which has passed since the Russians were enacting this EXACT playbook on them, I just can't believe it. I recall watching documentaries (years ago) about "Blood Revenge" and how the custom was so engrained in their culture it was holding them back from modernizing as a country. Yet here they are, helping the Russians who they should be killing on behalf of their forefathers. All that being said, I should certainly be specific. Not Chechens in general but for those Chechens specifically fighting in Ukraine. . . . I hope they die horrible deaths.  |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Missiles can be jammed, countered, or shot down, and the technology to do so is improving with each passing year. Surface ships have excellent force projection, escort, and security capabilities. Just like with tanks, don't judge the efficacy of surface ships based on the outcome of a 43 year old shit heap operated by one of the world's least competent militaries. USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. In 2016 USS Mason had 9 cruise missiles shot at it (2, 2, and then 5). No hits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mason_(DDG-87)#Attacks_off_the_coast_of_Yemen And HMS Gloucester shot down an Iraqi missile attack on USS Missouri in 1991. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Missiles can be jammed, countered, or shot down, and the technology to do so is improving with each passing year. Surface ships have excellent force projection, escort, and security capabilities. Just like with tanks, don't judge the efficacy of surface ships based on the outcome of a 43 year old shit heap operated by one of the world's least competent militaries. USS Stark Not arguing, but genuinely want to learn. Swarms concern me, and it could only take one to punch a carrier's ticket. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:10:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: polishkebasa]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: The stark was 1/3rd the size of the Moskva (4100 tons to 12490 tons) and also got hit twice and still survived and was repaired. The Russian navy is a joke Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: That attack was 35 years ago, and the ship targeted was launched 42 years ago. I'm not saying it's not relevant, but technology has changed since then, and the USN has almost certainly learned some things. It's probably also worth considering that USS Stark was hit during a war in which the US wasn't a belligerent. The defensive posture of the ship would have been different. As far as carriers and other major ships go, the USN doesn't have them operating in isolation. They are parts of formations, and the ships surrounding them are part of screens defending them against aircraft, surface threats, and submarines. I'm not a sailor, and I have no detailed knowledge of how the modern day USN does this, but they've had some form of this going on since WWII. These sorts of photos are taken for publicity reasons, but you get the idea: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Abraham-Lincoln-battlegroup.jpg In reality, these ships would be a good distance apart, and anything attacking a carrier would have to get past the frigates, the destroyers, the cruiser, air cover, and anything else that might be in the group. I won't make the claim that bad things can't happen. Missile technology is also improving with time. But it's not like the US will have cruiser or larger ships bumbling around in close proximity to a hostile nation. ETA: It's also worth mentioning that the US Navy is the best in the world at damage control. That matters, and it matters a lot. The stark was 1/3rd the size of the Moskva (4100 tons to 12490 tons) and also got hit twice and still survived and was repaired. The Russian navy is a joke The OHP really proved themselves as durable little ships. On paper the capabilities of an Slava class cruisers is an order of magnitude higher than something like an OHP, the original mission of these vessels being to attack USN carrier task forces implying they would survive at least long enough to expend their missiles. I doubt we will ever really know the exact circumstances of what happened, and there is always some luck in these situations as it seems that there might have been an hit to the RBU magazine. The rimpac 2016 video is always a cool watch, although I do not think the ship any ordnance onboard from he lack of fires but if some one knows, I would like to know!  RIMPAC 2016 SINKEX of Decommissioned USS Thach (FFG 43) On 14 July 2016, the ex-USS Thach took over 12 hours to sink after being used in a live-fire, SINKEX during naval exercise RIMPAC 2016. During the exercise, the ship was directly or indirectly hit with the following ordnance: a Harpoon missile from a South Korean submarine, another Harpoon missile from the Australian frigate HMAS Ballarat, a Hellfire missile from an Australian MH-60R helicopter, another Harpoon missile and a Maverick missile from US maritime patrol aircraft, another Harpoon missile from the cruiser USS Princeton, additional Hellfire missiles from a US Navy MH-60S helicopter, a 900 kg (2,000 lb) Mark 84 bomb from a US Navy F/A-18 Hornet, a GBU-12 Paveway laser-guided 225 kg (500 lb) bomb from a US Air Force B-52 bomber, and a Mark 48 torpedo from an unnamed US Navy submarine. Here's a good video of the effects of the Joint strike missile/Naval Strike missile with a smaller warhead than the harpoon or neptune  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:13:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glockluv: 30 years ago Russia invades the Chechens' capital city, rapes their women, kills their children, levels it to the ground. Here they are now, fighting on the side of the Russians while they rinse and repeat to a different neighbor. The Chechens are disgusting The Chechens are not a monolithic culture anymore than Americans are. Some of them aided the Russians and were then given the positions of power. I suspect there is plenty of righteous hate towards Russians and their Chechen puppets among those who lived through it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:14:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Russian-Bought Facebook Ads Sought To Amplify Political Divisions - September 26, 2017 "The apparent goal of the ads, the sources who spoke with CNN said, was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos around the 2016 presidential campaign, not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr, a Republican, told reporters Tuesday that the use of Facebook and other social media platforms by Russian-linked accounts appears to be about creating chaos on both ends of the political spectrum, not necessarily collusion between the Trump camp and Russian officials." And a few more links of interest to show the lengths they go to. You can actually see it at work here on ARFCOM from certain accounts. Fake Black Activist Social Media Accounts Linked To Russian Government Fake Twitter Accounts Stoked NFL ‘Take a Knee’ Debate Facebook Says Russia-Linked Ads That Reached Millions Of Americans Continued To 'Sow Division' And Undermine Trump – Not Hillary – Even After The 2016 Election Growing Evidence That Russia Using ‘The Resistance’ To Stoke Division Russia's Military Creates Force To Wage 'Information Warfare' Trolling For Putin: Russia's Information War Explained And probably one of the more in depth articles on the subject, the NYT stumbling into an accidental act of journalism: The Agency - From A Nondescript Office Building In St. Petersburg, Russia, An Army Of Well-Paid “Trolls” Has Tried To Wreak Havoc All Around The Internet — And In Real-Life American Communities (If you hit the paywall on the NYT link, just look up the URL on http://www.archive.org) @Ryan_Ruck and everyone else. You can get past paywall sites by using the link below. It doesn't work for all of them, but most. https://12ft.io/ |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By veritas8985: @Ryan_Ruck and everyone else. You can get past paywall sites by using the link below. It doesn't work for all of them, but most. https://12ft.io/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By veritas8985: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Russian-Bought Facebook Ads Sought To Amplify Political Divisions - September 26, 2017 "The apparent goal of the ads, the sources who spoke with CNN said, was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos around the 2016 presidential campaign, not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr, a Republican, told reporters Tuesday that the use of Facebook and other social media platforms by Russian-linked accounts appears to be about creating chaos on both ends of the political spectrum, not necessarily collusion between the Trump camp and Russian officials." And a few more links of interest to show the lengths they go to. You can actually see it at work here on ARFCOM from certain accounts. Fake Black Activist Social Media Accounts Linked To Russian Government Fake Twitter Accounts Stoked NFL ‘Take a Knee’ Debate Facebook Says Russia-Linked Ads That Reached Millions Of Americans Continued To 'Sow Division' And Undermine Trump – Not Hillary – Even After The 2016 Election Growing Evidence That Russia Using ‘The Resistance’ To Stoke Division Russia's Military Creates Force To Wage 'Information Warfare' Trolling For Putin: Russia's Information War Explained And probably one of the more in depth articles on the subject, the NYT stumbling into an accidental act of journalism: The Agency - From A Nondescript Office Building In St. Petersburg, Russia, An Army Of Well-Paid “Trolls” Has Tried To Wreak Havoc All Around The Internet — And In Real-Life American Communities (If you hit the paywall on the NYT link, just look up the URL on http://www.archive.org) @Ryan_Ruck and everyone else. You can get past paywall sites by using the link below. It doesn't work for all of them, but most. https://12ft.io/ Bookmarked! Thanks! 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:24:25 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: A true hero They should have a big parade for heroes like him on lets say May 9th, oh wait
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:27:01 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryI think this was already posted... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:29:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:31:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: I think this was already posted... Really? Which page? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:31:54 PM EDT
[#29]
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:37:46 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Is this that pro russian war gonzo guy? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: No one gives a fuck about that guy. Is this that pro russian war gonzo guy? Nah, he’s a grifter that was going by “Coach Red Pill” before the war. He’s a expat living in Kharkiv, he was in Kyiv when this started and has been posting his hot takes on how Ukraine should just lay down and take it from the orcs. He supposedly got run out of Kyiv and went back to Kharkiv. He thinks Zelenskyy is gonna send the SBU to kill him because he’s been saying Bucha was a false flag. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:38:00 PM EDT
[#31]
Wali lives!
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:40:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Russian sniper in Mariupol:
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:41:24 PM EDT
[#33]
Something something Cash for Clunkers? 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:43:23 PM EDT
[#34]
I’d caution that Mariupol is a heavily DPR effort, but the fact that they are stealing cars to do the work and the Russians have nothing to support them with says largely the same thing.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:44:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: What I want to know...is what is actually going on in Belarus...seems a lot of good people live there up to including gov't officials that oppose Russia...yet...here we are... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: https://i.ibb.co/BqccWMm/20220418-132443.jpg What I want to know...is what is actually going on in Belarus...seems a lot of good people live there up to including gov't officials that oppose Russia...yet...here we are... Lukashenko is a lifelong communist who is a puppet of Putin. Although there have been good Belorussians volunteering in the Ukrainian military since 2014 and a lot opposed to Lukashenko, the government of Belarus should just be considered an extension of Russia. Until there is a revolution there to push out Russia (which would be one hell of an effort), Belarus is nothing more than Russia West. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:55:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Russian-Bought Facebook Ads Sought To Amplify Political Divisions - September 26, 2017 "The apparent goal of the ads, the sources who spoke with CNN said, was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos around the 2016 presidential campaign, not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr, a Republican, told reporters Tuesday that the use of Facebook and other social media platforms by Russian-linked accounts appears to be about creating chaos on both ends of the political spectrum, not necessarily collusion between the Trump camp and Russian officials." And a few more links of interest to show the lengths they go to. You can actually see it at work here on ARFCOM from certain accounts. Fake Black Activist Social Media Accounts Linked To Russian Government Fake Twitter Accounts Stoked NFL 'Take a Knee' Debate Facebook Says Russia-Linked Ads That Reached Millions Of Americans Continued To 'Sow Division' And Undermine Trump Not Hillary Even After The 2016 Election Growing Evidence That Russia Using 'The Resistance' To Stoke Division Russia's Military Creates Force To Wage 'Information Warfare' Trolling For Putin: Russia's Information War Explained And probably one of the more in depth articles on the subject, the NYT stumbling into an accidental act of journalism: The Agency - From A Nondescript Office Building In St. Petersburg, Russia, An Army Of Well-Paid "Trolls" Has Tried To Wreak Havoc All Around The Internet And In Real-Life American Communities (If you hit the paywall on the NYT link, just look up the URL on http://www.archive.org) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Russian-Bought Facebook Ads Sought To Amplify Political Divisions - September 26, 2017 "The apparent goal of the ads, the sources who spoke with CNN said, was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos around the 2016 presidential campaign, not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr, a Republican, told reporters Tuesday that the use of Facebook and other social media platforms by Russian-linked accounts appears to be about creating chaos on both ends of the political spectrum, not necessarily collusion between the Trump camp and Russian officials." And a few more links of interest to show the lengths they go to. You can actually see it at work here on ARFCOM from certain accounts. Fake Black Activist Social Media Accounts Linked To Russian Government Fake Twitter Accounts Stoked NFL 'Take a Knee' Debate Facebook Says Russia-Linked Ads That Reached Millions Of Americans Continued To 'Sow Division' And Undermine Trump Not Hillary Even After The 2016 Election Growing Evidence That Russia Using 'The Resistance' To Stoke Division Russia's Military Creates Force To Wage 'Information Warfare' Trolling For Putin: Russia's Information War Explained And probably one of the more in depth articles on the subject, the NYT stumbling into an accidental act of journalism: The Agency - From A Nondescript Office Building In St. Petersburg, Russia, An Army Of Well-Paid "Trolls" Has Tried To Wreak Havoc All Around The Internet And In Real-Life American Communities (If you hit the paywall on the NYT link, just look up the URL on http://www.archive.org) But what about the Russian trolls and the Internet Research Agency? From Facebook's numbers, the ad budget the IRA employed (around $ 100,000) was minuscule by Internet marketing standards. You couldn't sell a pack of chewing gum for that. On the organic, non-ads side, the Russians and their propaganda got more distribution, and the numbers can seem impressive, without actually being so. Remember, Facebook is billions of users looking at hundreds of pieces of content a day, resulting in trillions of posts per year. Even Facebook conceding that something like hundreds of millions of posts were generated doesn't amount to much of a percentage of total Facebook media during the election cycle.. ..What's most amusing about this brouhaha, whether the bogeyman is the IRA or Cambridge Analytica, is that the people who seem to know least about ads are the most prepared to believe in the supernatural powers of advertising. While those who know most about ads, such as actual practitioners, are the most skeptical of the "magic bullet" claims by outfits like Cambridge Analytica. Ultimately, Trump won because more people were willing to share his message (for free!) on Facebook, ungoaded by any shifty Russians, and he was able to use the tried-and-true Facebook advertising tools to win. It was that simple. Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley by Antonio Garcia Martinez |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:56:08 PM EDT
[#37]
I haven’t read the last few pages but James Yeager is back from Ukraine already? Don’t know if there is a separate thread either
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:59:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
I am guessing it’s more of reconstituting than refitting, trying to cobble together full strength from remnant of other units. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: I met Antonio in Lviv, he was Facebook's ad guy and wrote about this issue in an afterword for his memoir. It's a longer, more detailed takedown of the ads issue, but an excerpt: Russia was trying to piss in our wheaties because that’s what they do. They weren’t getting Trumps help pissing in our wheaties and the wheaties didn’t pass their piss PEL but the left acted shocked that Russians were being Russians. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:02:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Address of Lieutenant Colonel Denis Prokopenko, Commander of the Azov Regiment, to world leaders
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: I am guessing it’s more of reconstituting than refitting, trying to cobble together full strength from remnant of other units. Most likely. And with cadet officers to boot. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:14:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Could the water pressure just be positive pressure from flooding somewhere? Since we are not watching a video, someone just snapped a photo, maybe when something was happening with the ship, like making moaning noises or starting to list more. Sounds stupid but I know nothing about sinking ships. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By lokifox: No way there is enough DC battery capacity to run the pumps for hours on end. No idea how Ruskie shps are wired up, but several multi-HP pumps would eat up a battery system in no time flat. Could the water pressure just be positive pressure from flooding somewhere? Since we are not watching a video, someone just snapped a photo, maybe when something was happening with the ship, like making moaning noises or starting to list more. Sounds stupid but I know nothing about sinking ships. If not mentioned already, the water spray is not from the Movska. It’s from a tug/rescue boat that is just behind the cruiser. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:15:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I’m supposed to be extraordinarily saddened a dude who fled to Ukraine to spout anti American and pro Russian propaganda is dead? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Oh GD, never change I’m supposed to be extraordinarily saddened a dude who fled to Ukraine to spout anti American and pro Russian propaganda is dead? No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:23:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Most likely. And with cadet officers to boot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Javak: I am guessing it’s more of reconstituting than refitting, trying to cobble together full strength from remnant of other units. Most likely. And with cadet officers to boot. Yeah that wil lead to smart desicive moves 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:25:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:25:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: OMG, worst Team Killer in history, and they caught it on camera. Blue Falcon award for this guy.  "Helpful Russian soldier sacrifices his wounded comrades to save himself from a grenade thrown by an Azov super-soldier in Mariupol."
Longer version of this:
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:34:03 PM EDT
[#47]
Wonder how Russell Bentley is doing?
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Russian sniper in Mariupol:
No suppressor in an urban environment...Russians... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:37:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cobradriver]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: New reports are that Ukrainians killed him. Good shoot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
Good shoot. I like watching the pro russian stuff just to see what kind of bullshit they are pedaling. Fuck me gonzo was annoying. I could never make it more than a little bit into his videos. Here's hoping the Ukrainians smoked him !!! |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 3:39:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AgeOne]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: No suppressor in an urban environment...Russians... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: No suppressor in an urban environment...Russians... person filming appears to be standing up pretty exposed. its probably more for show than it appears. Originally Posted By Cobradriver: I like watching the pro russian stuff just to see what kind of bullshit they are pedaling. Fuck me gonzo was annoying. I could never make it more than a little bit into his videos. Here's hoping the Ukrainians smked him !!! I have a buddy that keeps sending me that MOATS shit. fuck, its retarded. its not even like 15 minuets of retard, its like two goddamn hours. I can't get 5 min into it when all I can think is "not a single one of the things said is even remotely true" |
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