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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Andropov lasted what? 14 months before he dropped off? Even today wikipedia describes it as "kidney failure" with no description of why renal failure and why no dialysis? I liked them better when they were too busy killing each other to be fuckheads View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By Billy_Ringo: "With eyes on target" can that be done via a drone? If a drone identifies a target can it send info and/or specific co-ordinates back and have the target hit? I understand they can walk/re-direct artillery but can it be done with a first strike via co-ordinates from a drone? Thanks in advance. One side-note. If the Russians announced Putin is gravely ill and a few days later claimed he was dead. Even with a burial, what percent of the people would believe he was actually dead? Conspiracy nuts would have a field day with that one for decades. In the 80s Soviet leaders were deadified with frequency. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Andropov lasted what? 14 months before he dropped off? Even today wikipedia describes it as "kidney failure" with no description of why renal failure and why no dialysis? I liked them better when they were too busy killing each other to be fuckheads Most were quite geriatric until they picked Gorbachev Heart attack was common as I recall |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, he flys to my house at 6am, must be the same bird. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Even nature helps: in the Kyiv region, a racist projectile sticking out of a pine tree was neutralized. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS96HABXoAMxgAU?format=jpg&name=medium any way we can send one of these who likes to camp outside my house at 5am and wake me up http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJoY78MbUMA/To9LsHdaAdI/AAAAAAAADn4/QpK51NBAgrs/s1600/ActualSpeedWoodpecker.gif lol, he flys to my house at 6am, must be the same bird. @AllmightyTallest you keep him he's a noisy lil asshole and my ferals wont go near him |
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Originally Posted By Circuits: FY2021 budget shows them at $118.2k per shell. While technically legal with DD tax stamps, it's doubtful Bofors would sell you any. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By sq40:I wonder if a man could get one with the appropriate stamps? A few pallets of Excalibur rounds would complete the set. Perfect for securing acrrage. Yeah, but can you imagine the fun? |
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Originally Posted By kncook: The number is 16 for Illinois. 2 off for the state. I remember hearing it somewhere. Were the 18 in Afg combat related deaths or are you counting non-combat accidents as well? I think they had a good few unfortunately. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By kncook: When we pulled out of Afghanistan (what a cluster). More cops had been killed on the job in Chicago than soldiers killed in combat in Afghanistan the last 2 years. 18 cops killed in Chicago in 2020/2021? 45 killed by gunfire in 2020 My bad, thought data was for Chicago, its not. The number is 16 for Illinois. 2 off for the state. I remember hearing it somewhere. Were the 18 in Afg combat related deaths or are you counting non-combat accidents as well? I think they had a good few unfortunately. I was looking at the officer down memorial page that breaks it all down by year. But I think my total was for line of duty gunfire deaths for the country. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By JQ66: Most were quite geriatric until they picked Gorbachev Heart attack was common as I recall View Quote Not really. Stalin and Krrushcheve (spelling) were in their prime when they assumed power. Breshnev (spelling) wasn't partiucalr old when he assumed power in the late 60's. There was a 3-4 year period of leadership going from him, to two other guys, who both died pretty quickly. Then Gorby who ran out the clock on the Soviet Union. |
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Originally Posted By Undaunted: https://youtube.com/shorts/VKKoa1Qm-VQ?feature=share I've not been keeping up the last couple days....but awesome. View Quote Holy shit! That was awsome. |
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Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Holy shit! That was awsome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Originally Posted By Undaunted: https://youtube.com/shorts/VKKoa1Qm-VQ?feature=share I've not been keeping up the last couple days....but awesome. Holy shit! That was awsome. It’s a video game. |
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Originally Posted By kbi: @AllmightyTallest you keep him he's a noisy lil asshole and my ferals wont go near him View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Even nature helps: in the Kyiv region, a racist projectile sticking out of a pine tree was neutralized. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS96HABXoAMxgAU?format=jpg&name=medium any way we can send one of these who likes to camp outside my house at 5am and wake me up http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJoY78MbUMA/To9LsHdaAdI/AAAAAAAADn4/QpK51NBAgrs/s1600/ActualSpeedWoodpecker.gif lol, he flys to my house at 6am, must be the same bird. @AllmightyTallest you keep him he's a noisy lil asshole and my ferals wont go near him I dont want him, he hits my metal rain gutters and sounds like a rivet gun. Woodpecker on Gutter |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Czech gives Ukraine 30 active + 89 stored T72s Germany gives Czech 20 Leopard 2 A4's, sells them 40 more leopard 2 A7s. It seems at least the 30 active units in the deal are upgraded with Perkins + Allison powertrains, new fire control, era, and active fire detection/suppression. Seems to be all ironed-out and paperwork to be signed around this week. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_may_2022_global_security_army_industry/czech_army_to_acquire_leopard_2a4_and_2a7_tanks_after_giving_its_t-72s_to_ukraine.html |
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Is Friday already?
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Originally Posted By Birddog15: Whoa. That was pretty intense. You've got to give that tank crew credit for fighting so aggressively. Lots of orc crews would have bailed by that point. View Quote no credit easy to be aggressive against infantry bailing out would have put them at risk from small arms fire |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Originally Posted By kncook: The number is 16 for Illinois. 2 off for the state. I remember hearing it somewhere. Were the 18 in Afg combat related deaths or are you counting non-combat accidents as well? I think they had a good few unfortunately. View Quote Illinois had 8 intentional killings of police in 2020-21, so, less than half. |
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Originally Posted By SpaceGuy: Twitter OSINT sources are claiming Ukrainians are 7km away from Vovchans'k which is the main supply hub to Izyum. Its riiiight on the border of Russia. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vovchans'k,+Kharkiv+Oblast,+Ukraine/@50.18413,36.7724451,9.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4126f0c2a341bfa5:0x16d34498bcba6acc!8m2!3d50.284234!4d36.9329429 View Quote Holy shit. |
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 View Quote Ben is banned again? WTF! |
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Old age, the guy's Invincible!
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Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Holy shit! That was awsome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Originally Posted By Undaunted: https://youtube.com/shorts/VKKoa1Qm-VQ?feature=share I've not been keeping up the last couple days....but awesome. Holy shit! That was awsome. Holy shit! That is FAKE. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I dont want him, he hits my metal rain gutters and sounds like a rivet gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piNU9TR4GUs View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Even nature helps: in the Kyiv region, a racist projectile sticking out of a pine tree was neutralized. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS96HABXoAMxgAU?format=jpg&name=medium any way we can send one of these who likes to camp outside my house at 5am and wake me up http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJoY78MbUMA/To9LsHdaAdI/AAAAAAAADn4/QpK51NBAgrs/s1600/ActualSpeedWoodpecker.gif lol, he flys to my house at 6am, must be the same bird. @AllmightyTallest you keep him he's a noisy lil asshole and my ferals wont go near him I dont want him, he hits my metal rain gutters and sounds like a rivet gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piNU9TR4GUs Ours likes our stainless chimney cap...bastard. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By SpaceGuy: Twitter OSINT sources are claiming Ukrainians are 7km away from Vovchans'k which is the main supply hub to Izyum. Its riiiight on the border of Russia. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vovchans'k,+Kharkiv+Oblast,+Ukraine/@50.18413,36.7724451,9.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4126f0c2a341bfa5:0x16d34498bcba6acc!8m2!3d50.284234!4d36.9329429 Holy shit. Need to pay them a visit with strike aircraft or let them have some arty |
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"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, he flys to my house at 6am, must be the same bird. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Even nature helps: in the Kyiv region, a racist projectile sticking out of a pine tree was neutralized. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS96HABXoAMxgAU?format=jpg&name=medium any way we can send one of these who likes to camp outside my house at 5am and wake me up http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJoY78MbUMA/To9LsHdaAdI/AAAAAAAADn4/QpK51NBAgrs/s1600/ActualSpeedWoodpecker.gif lol, he flys to my house at 6am, must be the same bird. Pileated woodpeckers are some pretty big birds. |
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Originally Posted By jDrexler: It’s a video game. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jDrexler: Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Originally Posted By Undaunted: https://youtube.com/shorts/VKKoa1Qm-VQ?feature=share I've not been keeping up the last couple days....but awesome. Holy shit! That was awsome. It’s a video game. Yeah, I saw that upon closer inspection. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: He got banned? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 He got banned? Really? Wow. Great poster. Hope he comes back quickly. |
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“This is America damnit! I don’t think we will become like these other countries. I don’t think we can. Courage is too contagious here.” -James O’Keefe, 1/17/22
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Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Yeah, but can you imagine the fun? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Houlagan72: Originally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By sq40:I wonder if a man could get one with the appropriate stamps? A few pallets of Excalibur rounds would complete the set. Perfect for securing acrrage. Yeah, but can you imagine the fun? $200k per shot. $120k for the shell and stamp, $80k for the BMW target placed down rage to show off my vast wealth. |
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“This is America damnit! I don’t think we will become like these other countries. I don’t think we can. Courage is too contagious here.” -James O’Keefe, 1/17/22
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Originally Posted By CharlieR: Depends on what you mean by "send back." 15 years ago you could look at the plasma screen and write it down on a piece of paper, yell at the JTAC or FSO on the other side of the room, or write it down and speak it into a radio or phone. Doing call for fire with the drone as the forward observer? Sure. Park the fire support officer or the battery commander in front of the screen, go get a cup of coffee. If the UAV operator who can geolocate things down to one meter sits next to the artillery guy who can destroy shit plus or minus a couple dozen feet, give them chairs, introduce them to each other and tell them to be friends. Magic happens. You dont need to buy Super Turcanos or other happy horseshit either. Is there a digital way to push the digits to the guns? I dunno. Could be. But if your TOC is well organized that wont speed things up much as you still need people in the loop. You still want to plot it on the map and confirm that the target is enemy, so slowing the process down a little isnt a bad thing. This truck is at 36 40' 05" north; 15 39' 28" west. A drone with a laser rangefinder, gyro, and GPS is older then many posters here. Shadow, pred, reaper..... That grid, including degrees, minutes, seconds, is accurate to approx 100 feet. Or have the computer jockey convert it to a ten digit grid. If the artillery is doing its job with respect to accurate fire, this target is dead. And if the shell misses, lase, get a 10 digit grid of where the shell lands and pass the correction back over to the guns. That's very helpful as well. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/2/23/1424713623688/239f0d94-de7a-4dce-bf47-02f89a2dd5f8-2060x1638.jpeg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=ccfcb5c1730d35f5ac37d72afd723df5 View Quote Is there a digital way to push the digits to the guns? Of course there is |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Illinois had 8 intentional killings of police in 2020-21, so, less than half. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By kncook: The number is 16 for Illinois. 2 off for the state. I remember hearing it somewhere. Were the 18 in Afg combat related deaths or are you counting non-combat accidents as well? I think they had a good few unfortunately. Illinois had 8 intentional killings of police in 2020-21, so, less than half. Was counting 2020 & 2021 |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Is there a digital way to push the digits to the guns? Of course there is View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By CharlieR: Depends on what you mean by "send back." 15 years ago you could look at the plasma screen and write it down on a piece of paper, yell at the JTAC or FSO on the other side of the room, or write it down and speak it into a radio or phone. Doing call for fire with the drone as the forward observer? Sure. Park the fire support officer or the battery commander in front of the screen, go get a cup of coffee. If the UAV operator who can geolocate things down to one meter sits next to the artillery guy who can destroy shit plus or minus a couple dozen feet, give them chairs, introduce them to each other and tell them to be friends. Magic happens. You dont need to buy Super Turcanos or other happy horseshit either. Is there a digital way to push the digits to the guns? I dunno. Could be. But if your TOC is well organized that wont speed things up much as you still need people in the loop. You still want to plot it on the map and confirm that the target is enemy, so slowing the process down a little isnt a bad thing. This truck is at 36 40' 05" north; 15 39' 28" west. A drone with a laser rangefinder, gyro, and GPS is older then many posters here. Shadow, pred, reaper..... That grid, including degrees, minutes, seconds, is accurate to approx 100 feet. Or have the computer jockey convert it to a ten digit grid. If the artillery is doing its job with respect to accurate fire, this target is dead. And if the shell misses, lase, get a 10 digit grid of where the shell lands and pass the correction back over to the guns. That's very helpful as well. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/2/23/1424713623688/239f0d94-de7a-4dce-bf47-02f89a2dd5f8-2060x1638.jpeg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=ccfcb5c1730d35f5ac37d72afd723df5 Is there a digital way to push the digits to the guns? Of course there is It's only been around since the 80s |
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 View Quote What?, when and why did he get banned?? |
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“If you want a glimpse of the future, imagine a clown shoe stamping on a human face. Forever.”
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Originally Posted By AROKIE: What?, when and why did he get banned?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 What?, when and why did he get banned?? Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Bro I'm telling you Russia isn't commie anymore bro. Really! Pls believe this bro. Bro Russia really loves freedom, more than America even. This is just Russian national security bro. cryingguy.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Your papers, please.
Bro I'm telling you Russia isn't commie anymore bro. Really! Pls believe this bro. Bro Russia really loves freedom, more than America even. This is just Russian national security bro. cryingguy.jpg |
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Originally Posted By MiG-21:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSyrbIdXwAA0bec?format=jpg&name=large View Quote The orc Butcher personally executed thousands of Polish officers one at a time with a shot to the base of the head. And used a German gun to shift blame. The Butcher "He is recorded as having executed tens of thousands of prisoners by his own hand, including his killing of about 7,000 Polish prisoners of war (including ethnic Ukrainians) during the Katyn massacre in spring 1940, making him the most prolific official executioner in recorded world history." |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 View Quote Wait what? How did he catch a ban?! |
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 What?, when and why did he get banned?? Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. We keep losing good ones. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By 1stID: The US fought for 20 years in Afghanistan, spent a trillion dollars, and were kicked out by a bunch of goat hearder in sandals. Maybe temper a bit on who can do what. View Quote bullshit, we were fucked by politicians and NGOs, had the ROE been there is no ROE, everyone above 8 years old would have been put down, and those under the age raised in the west, without the death cult, would have been fine |
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 What?, when and why did he get banned?? Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. He didn't sound like he was going to be sticking around after his recent return from a time out. He probably had something he needed to say to a mod or staff, and did it. |
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The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light, And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death Light has dawned.
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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Explosion and subsequent fire inKharkiv, locals specifically rule out incoming.
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Originally Posted By RockSix: bullshit, we were fucked by politicians and NGOs, had the ROE been there is no ROE, everyone above 8 years old would have been put down, and those under the age raised in the west, without the death cult, would have been fine View Quote "We didn't lose in Vietnam. Technically it was a tie!" OK Kevin Kline. Every Army Col and General that served in Afgan said things were going fine and that the 20 year training program was A-OK and working well. While every E-7 and below could have told you how worthless the Afgan army was, and that they would quit and run away about 15 seconds after the US left. Don't only blame elected officials - the military leadership told everyone exactly want they wanted to hear - and got their stars and defense contractor board positions in return. Same leadership would be in charge of fighting any future war as well. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success but I was just an E4 so just did the fighting, not the lying. |
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I’m sure that if one wanted to start a thread conflating US war fighting capability and our success rate in nation building, that it would be a doozy.
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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Originally Posted By RockSix: bullshit, we were fucked by politicians and NGOs, had the ROE been there is no ROE, everyone above 8 years old would have been put down, and those under the age raised in the west, without the death cult, would have been fine View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RockSix: Originally Posted By 1stID: The US fought for 20 years in Afghanistan, spent a trillion dollars, and were kicked out by a bunch of goat hearder in sandals. Maybe temper a bit on who can do what. bullshit, we were fucked by politicians and NGOs, had the ROE been there is no ROE, everyone above 8 years old would have been put down, and those under the age raised in the west, without the death cult, would have been fine we can sit down together and have a beer. |
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Orwell and Huxley were optimists
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The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light, And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death Light has dawned.
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The trick to Afghanistan is to just not care about the remote parts. What are they going to do to you there? Hold the irrigated valleys, roads and plains and let the Taliban have the mountains. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Infantry26: Not to derail too much but when I was in Afghanistan there were places in my AO that hadn't seen an American in over a year because it took more ammo than a platoon could carry to get there...the thought processes that lead to that level of failure are ingrained in our military for now. It actually peeves me to see libs pretend to give a fuck about this new current thing, knowing they didn't give a fuck about supporting what was done in Afghanistan. Troop levels were a political decision made directly because of them. The trick to Afghanistan is to just not care about the remote parts. What are they going to do to you there? Hold the irrigated valleys, roads and plains and let the Taliban have the mountains. Seems like there was an internal battle fought in DC between Nation Building and Counter Terrorism, and the Nation Builders won the battle. It was doomed at that point. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Explosion and subsequent fire inKharkiv, locals specifically rule out incoming.
View Quote It’s a city of 1.5m people when occupied and has old Soviet infrastructure. Fires happen. |
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: Seems like there was an internal battle fought in DC between Nation Building and Counter Terrorism, and the Nation Builders won the battle. It was doomed at that point. View Quote It's kinder in the long run to just put a non-hostile dictator in place and bribe or coerce the dictator to keep the atrocities down. |
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Slava Ukraini! "The only real difference between the men and the boys, is the number and size, and cost of their toys."
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Originally Posted By LoBrau: Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By LoBrau: This thread will serve a dual purpose until M35ben is unbanned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0 What?, when and why did he get banned?? Unknown, I'm told it's permanent. I am displeased. That would be even dumber than taking moderating advice from London Metro. |
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