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Posted: 8/7/2022 8:18:43 AM EST
[#1]
The tips coming in to the Ukrainian army by people in the Khearson area is insane.
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Posted: 8/7/2022 8:19:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
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Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: For guys who threw in money the last two weeks or so. comtac 6 has arrived. Now we just need 750$ More to get 5 PTTs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/04BF10C8-B932-4486-BCC1-EE65775C7FFB_jpe-2479304.JPG http://www.usinua.org/donate.html Going to us trained sof group in Ukraine PTTs 503c tax deductible items Thanks guys, only 500$ more needed to obtain integrated comms hearing protection/ptt for a US trained Ukrainian SOF unit in Ukraine. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 8:44:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I so want to see 25K Russian POWs.  It might give Putin enough of an excuse for national mobilization, but that wouldn't help them - they'd be fielding 200K men with no good equipment and no good training. Putin might think he can overwhelm Ukraine with quantity, but not without weapons parity with Ukraine. Ukraine will be standing up a similar number, with better training and better equipment. Slava Ukraini! FVP! |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 8:49:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Thanks guys, only 500$ more needed to obtain integrated comms hearing protection/ptt for a US trained Ukrainian SOF unit in Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: For guys who threw in money the last two weeks or so. comtac 6 has arrived. Now we just need 750$ More to get 5 PTTs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/04BF10C8-B932-4486-BCC1-EE65775C7FFB_jpe-2479304.JPG http://www.usinua.org/donate.html Going to us trained sof group in Ukraine PTTs 503c tax deductible items Thanks guys, only 500$ more needed to obtain integrated comms hearing protection/ptt for a US trained Ukrainian SOF unit in Ukraine. I'll see what funds I can shift your way. All of my spare cash has been going to a few Ukrainian friends that has been hunting down and extracting orphaned children out of hot zones. It's a small group of former Ukrainian army vets. They just got done with a run from Poltava. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 8:57:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dagger41]
[#5]
Looks too big to be a body bag.
One thing for sure, the drone usage in this war has driven development of them to an entire new level.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:07:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I don’t tnink Russia will withdraw from Kherson without a fight. Kherson controls the water to Crimea. Without it the peninsula becomes a desert That's why Russia is pouring resources into a very risky position. Russia can't lose Crimea. Politically and emotionally, Crimea is critical to Russia. Which is why they will act irrationally about it. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:11:09 AM EST
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Interesting....
Translation from Russian: fragments of the American AGM-88 HARM (High-speed Anti-Radar Missile) - a high-speed anti-radar missile - were found. The ammunition was issued by the marking on the tail "BSU-60 A / B"
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:11:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That's why Russia is pouring resources into a very risky position. Russia can't lose Crimea. Politically and emotionally, Crimea is critical to Russia. Which is why they will act irrationally about it. If/when we reach the point where RU troops are retreating or collapsing, it will be a very dangerous time for the region. Fuck all those irrational russian assholes. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:14:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Interesting.... Translation from Russian:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkE1PPWYAA370y?format=jpg&name=large I didnt know the UA received HARM. Isnt that fired from an aircraft? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:20:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I didnt know the UA received HARM. Isnt that fired from an aircraft? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Interesting.... Translation from Russian:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkE1PPWYAA370y?format=jpg&name=large I didnt know the UA received HARM. Isnt that fired from an aircraft? That is what makes this very interesting, both for me and the account that posted that. I would not be surprised if Ukraine had a truck mounted method of ground launching them once a known Russian air defense radar was on and within range. Or modified an aircraft to be able to launch them, if this really is a HARM. Just spitballing ideas though. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:21:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I didnt know the UA received HARM. Isnt that fired from an aircraft? Yes, and we've been told MIG's can't fire them. Sooooo....... They either figured out a way or a f series planes are flying around. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:25:00 AM EST
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:25:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: theskuh]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Thanks guys, only 500$ more needed to obtain integrated comms hearing protection/ptt for a US trained Ukrainian SOF unit in Ukraine. I'll hit you up in a couple weeks doing house renovations now and way farther into my cash reserves than I expected. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:30:25 AM EST
[#14]
Digging a little, Northrop Grumman had a shipping container ground launched HARM display in 2018.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept The Association of the United States Army conference and expo is underway in Washington DC and our own Joe Trevithick was making the rounds around the show floor and spotted a very interesting concept from Northrop Grumman. It takes the increasingly popular containerized weapons trend and mixes it with the company's newest anti-radiation missile designs, the AARGM, which is the advanced AGM-88E version of the long-proven High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM), and the longer-range AARGM-ER with its sleeker form factor. You can read all about that missile here. In essence, such a system could place enemy threat emitters at risk in a persistent manner anywhere within the range of launcher's missiles. And that containerized launcher could be located on a road or at sea, as well as in semi-fixed positions. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:34:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Yes, and we've been told MIG's can't fire them. Sooooo....... They either figured out a way or a f series planes are flying around. Or it wasn't fired there and the piece is a plant. Hard to say with what we know so far. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:39:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjwill: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjwill: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: For guys who threw in money the last two weeks or so. comtac 6 has arrived. Now we just need 750$ More to get 5 PTTs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/04BF10C8-B932-4486-BCC1-EE65775C7FFB_jpe-2479304.JPG http://www.usinua.org/donate.html Going to us trained sof group in Ukraine PTTs 503c tax deductible items Thanks guys, only 500$ more needed to obtain integrated comms hearing protection/ptt for a US trained Ukrainian SOF unit in Ukraine. Donated. Keep up the good work. Not sure if this was previously posted, but a cool video of UA working mortars with drones. UA calling in mortars |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:41:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Interesting.... Translation from Russian:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkE1PPWYAA370y?format=jpg&name=large If true this is a BIG deal |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:44:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: Easterner]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Digging a little, Northrop Grumman had a shipping container ground launched HARM display in 2018. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept That seems like a real possibility. As much as I would love to think American aircraft are taking part in the fun...  |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:45:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: If true this is a BIG deal The only other clues are the weapons packages being sent to Ukraine were said to include some "nasty surprises for the Russians." And that not every weapon system being sent over there is publicly mentioned. Guess we'll eventually find out. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:46:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I've seen some rumors on Twitter indicating either an offensive by the Ukrainians in the East, or two simultaneous offensives which would really complicate where the Russians would have to decide to put their forces. I noticed on the ISW assessment for the first time last night that there was no claim of S-300 systems launching attacks, which was happening daily for weeks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By theskuh: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: The Enforcer on YT is saying there are rumors swirling that the Russians may be about to withdraw from the Kherson area. Not sure what he is basing this upon, but I thought I'd mention it. With the daily coverage he does on Ukraine and with the amount of research he has to do daily, I'm sure he gets bits and pieces of some useful info along the way. Only reason would be to head off an attack somewhere else or mass desertion. Interesting if true. I've seen some rumors on Twitter indicating either an offensive by the Ukrainians in the East, or two simultaneous offensives which would really complicate where the Russians would have to decide to put their forces. I noticed on the ISW assessment for the first time last night that there was no claim of S-300 systems launching attacks, which was happening daily for weeks.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:47:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: That seems like a real possibility. As much as I would love to think American aircraft are taking part in the fun... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Digging a little, Northrop Grumman had a shipping container ground launched HARM display in 2018. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept That seems like a real possibility. As much as I would love to think American aircraft are taking part in the fun... The only aircraft that I am aware that carries the AGM-88 is the F16 which is also used by many countries. Now how many countries we have sold the 88 to, I have no idea. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:48:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Digging a little, Northrop Grumman had a shipping container ground launched HARM display in 2018. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept This is probably one of those capabilities we were told the U.S. would provide Ukraine with that would go unannounced.  I would also have to assume that this may have as much to do with degrading Russian air defenses recently as the HIMARS systems. Ukrainian Su-25's were up yesterday working in significant numbers, performing direct attacks against Russian forces. Clearly, something has changed in recent days. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:59:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: THOT_Vaccine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Digging a little, Northrop Grumman had a shipping container ground launched HARM display in 2018. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Digging a little, Northrop Grumman had a shipping container ground launched HARM display in 2018. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept The Association of the United States Army conference and expo is underway in Washington DC and our own Joe Trevithick was making the rounds around the show floor and spotted a very interesting concept from Northrop Grumman. It takes the increasingly popular containerized weapons trend and mixes it with the company's newest anti-radiation missile designs, the AARGM, which is the advanced AGM-88E version of the long-proven High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM), and the longer-range AARGM-ER with its sleeker form factor. You can read all about that missile here. In essence, such a system could place enemy threat emitters at risk in a persistent manner anywhere within the range of launcher's missiles. And that containerized launcher could be located on a road or at sea, as well as in semi-fixed positions. We need a YGBSM patch with a camo 18 wheeler.
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:07:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: We can only hope it's going to be that epic.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ContraHQ: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By DonKey153: Best case, the Russians realize they fucked up and it becomes their Dunkirk as they flee back across the river. Fleeing across that river will be harder than they think. My guess is that boats will become scarce, and by design. Maybe the Russian Navy will be sent to help. That would be glorious. Screen capture from training video for crossing water obstacles shown to russian conscripts https://images.hindustantimes.com/img/2021/09/19/1600x900/taliban_1632068183195_1632068191698.jpg We can only hope it's going to be that epic. @AlmightyTallest Could you imagine the look on there faces while pedalling one of those boats and then they notice one of these screeching at them  
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:08:16 AM EST
[#25]
Some more info on the HARM.
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:09:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: @AlmightyTallest Could you imagine the look on there faces while pedalling one of those boats and then they notice one of these screeching at them https://defence-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3694709.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ContraHQ: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By DonKey153: Best case, the Russians realize they fucked up and it becomes their Dunkirk as they flee back across the river. Fleeing across that river will be harder than they think. My guess is that boats will become scarce, and by design. Maybe the Russian Navy will be sent to help. That would be glorious. Screen capture from training video for crossing water obstacles shown to russian conscripts https://images.hindustantimes.com/img/2021/09/19/1600x900/taliban_1632068183195_1632068191698.jpg We can only hope it's going to be that epic. @AlmightyTallest Could you imagine the look on there faces while pedalling one of those boats and then they notice one of these screeching at them https://defence-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3694709.jpg lol, it's an entertaining thought. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:10:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjwill: The only aircraft that I am aware that carries the AGM-88 is the F16 which is also used by many countries. Now how many countries we have sold the 88 to, I have no idea. Wiki update 1 minute includes Ukraine as operator and I didn’t know the Euro Fighter could fire them……. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:11:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: That was massive, the largest so far Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
https://c.tenor.com/P2FnPY_xHS8AAAAC/friday-ice-cube.gif Nothing left after that kaboom @Chaingun  wonder how much air the turret got |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:14:04 AM EST
[#29]
Well this got more cryptic, and intriguing.
Posted by the Ukrainian government just now.
Trolling level is now officially at 10. 
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:15:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well this got more cryptic, and intriguing. Posted by the Ukrainian government just now.
Trolling level is now officially at 10. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkJhA1XoAIEyfz?format=jpg&name=small  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:16:03 AM EST
[#31]
Yeap.
I forgot about the Reapers we sent them as well. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:27:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: YaNi05]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Some more info on the HARM.
Damn y'all just beat me. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:41:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well this got more cryptic, and intriguing. Posted by the Ukrainian government just now.
Trolling level is now officially at 10. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkJhA1XoAIEyfz?format=jpg&name=small  |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:41:29 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well this got more cryptic, and intriguing. Posted by the Ukrainian government just now.
Trolling level is now officially at 10. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkJhA1XoAIEyfz?format=jpg&name=small  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:43:40 AM EST
[#35]
If Ukraine gets F-16s and uses that paint scheme, I'm buying a diecast as soon as they become available! Best looking F-16, ever!
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:03:56 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: If Ukraine gets F-16s and uses that paint scheme, I'm buying a diecast as soon as they become available! Best looking F-16, ever! This just got me thinking about Erik Price on the Shawn Ryan podcast. He was talking about how we could have prevented the war altogether had we given the UAF our recently decommissioned F15 and F16 squadrons (that are now in F35s). They're almost a complete write-off as they sit in long term storage in the desert. He estimated ~$300mil in maintenance to get them operational again. The main concern was trained pilots, which he brought up a NATO Flying Tigers style volunteer group as a holdover until a UAF pipeline could be established. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:04:44 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: If Ukraine gets F-16s and uses that paint scheme, I'm buying a diecast as soon as they become available! Best looking F-16, ever! Snake-like paint scheme on a Viper? I like it. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:05:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I so want to see 25K Russian POWs. It might give Putin enough of an excuse for national mobilization, but that wouldn't help them - they'd be fielding 200K men with no good equipment and no good training. Putin might think he can overwhelm Ukraine with quantity, but not without weapons parity with Ukraine. Ukraine will be standing up a similar number, with better training and better equipment. Slava Ukraini! FVP! I'd rather see 25,000 on a pile. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:21:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Thanks guys, only 500$ more needed to obtain integrated comms hearing protection/ptt for a US trained Ukrainian SOF unit in Ukraine. I've seen references to fundraisers on reddit. So that might be a place for you if you don't already. But the "karma" points can be a pain in the ass. I expect more social media the better for fundraising. Cast your net wide, and all that. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:27:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: If Ukraine gets F-16s and uses that paint scheme, I'm buying a diecast as soon as they become available! Best looking F-16, ever! Me too! |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:31:19 AM EST
[#41]
lol, this will not save them.
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:36:54 AM EST
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:45:30 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: I'd rather see 25,000 on a pile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I so want to see 25K Russian POWs. It might give Putin enough of an excuse for national mobilization, but that wouldn't help them - they'd be fielding 200K men with no good equipment and no good training. Putin might think he can overwhelm Ukraine with quantity, but not without weapons parity with Ukraine. Ukraine will be standing up a similar number, with better training and better equipment. Slava Ukraini! FVP! I'd rather see 25,000 on a pile. Yeah 25K dead Russians makes me a happy Panda. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:48:20 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, this will not save them.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkI9vXWYAAWz3t?format=jpg&name=small Reminds me of scarecrows. Maybe, at least, they may reduce the amount of bird droppings on the bridge, until they are blown. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:49:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#45]
I'm trying to see if this helps in knowing when stuff blows up in a big way, perhaps a supplement for the FIRMS data. This system uses a commercial sattelite and watches for flashes in Ukraine, then geolocates them on Google maps. Flashes are rated in magnitude from 1 to 5, 5 being huge. I think some big ammo dumps registered a 3 recently. Accuracy is 2.5km of map point.
Just got this notice:
Now to see if there is evidence that something was hit. Occasionally it updates with an image to see weather for the area.  Again, same area, bigger flash. Secondaries?
FIRMS data 53 min ago. 
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:54:48 AM EST
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around how parts of an AGM-88 were found over there ?
Last time I checked, there is no Ground Launched version ? So, is somebody trolling the Russians with some supposedly "Found" pieces of a HARM Missile, for the purposes of mind fuckery ? In conjunction with the above posted pictures of a fictitious Ukrainian F-16 ? Nice. 
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Posted: 8/7/2022 12:13:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#47]
The current poor state of communications in the LPR/DPR forces, interesting read.
https://wartranslated.com/lpr-volunteer-and-blogger-murz-describes-the-state-of-radio-comms-in-the-republics-as-apocalyptic/ Here at WarTranslated we’ve covered the livejournal blog of an old-school “LPR” blogger and volunteer Murz (aka Andrey Morozov) on a number of occasions. Murz is an engineering guy who repairs and accumulates various communications equipment for the so-called Republic’s Army Corps, and has been involved in the process since early 2000s, way before the republics emerged in 2014. His reports are often eye-opening as Murz doesn’t spare words to describe the real state of affairs in his blog. On 7 August, he published a post detailing the current situation with communication devices in the “LPR” forces. Mainly, he says that the essentials such as tank intercoms have run out, and existing radio stations that are being used come from the Soviet era, such as the R-123 tube radios. We provide the translation of the post below: |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 12:57:24 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: I'd rather see 25,000 on a pile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I so want to see 25K Russian POWs. It might give Putin enough of an excuse for national mobilization, but that wouldn't help them - they'd be fielding 200K men with no good equipment and no good training. Putin might think he can overwhelm Ukraine with quantity, but not without weapons parity with Ukraine. Ukraine will be standing up a similar number, with better training and better equipment. Slava Ukraini! FVP! I'd rather see 25,000 on a pile. The PR value of live prisoners is pretty high, though. Sure, I don't care how many die before the rest give up, but they should definitely give up. Let them spend some time in the west under controlled circumstances, free them from propaganda, and they'll never support Putin or his cronies again. And of course, there is extensive UXO & demining work to be done all over Ukraine, that will take years, even for 15-25K POWs. Oh, and the Russians don't get to go home until every Ukrainian taken by Russia comes home. I think I saw Russia claiming they've "taken in" three million "refugees." 
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Posted: 8/7/2022 1:12:26 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The current poor state of communications in the LPR/DPR forces, interesting read. https://wartranslated.com/lpr-volunteer-and-blogger-murz-describes-the-state-of-radio-comms-in-the-republics-as-apocalyptic/ That is some "mighty fine" looking radio equipment there. Back in the old days of T34, the commander didn't need no stinking intercom, he just kicked the driver on the right side to turn right, on the left side to turn left and a foot to the top of the head to go forward and a foot to the lower back to go in reverse or some such. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 1:17:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The tips coming in to the Ukrainian army by people in the Khearson area is insane.
Nu uh! Ukraine is only doing this thanks to their American overlords giving them intel! There's just no fucking way millions civilian people in Ukraine could be giving their army accurate and timely intelligence! |
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