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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: China is absurdly vulnerable to sanctions. Agreed. But are we as a nation willing to have a trade war with China right now? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonKey153: Agreed. But are we as a nation willing to have a trade war with China right now? A trade skirmish maybe but let’s work on getting there. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:47:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: A trade skirmish maybe but let’s work on getting there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By DonKey153: Agreed. But are we as a nation willing to have a trade war with China right now? A trade skirmish maybe but let’s work on getting there. If "that" sickness was any indication, the reaction by China will be doubling down on whatever idiotic path they've chosen in order show The Party's wisdom. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: There is, but IMO you should look at the longer term/bigger picture. Russia’s play for European conquest is a failure but for political reasons they’ve committed their army to be ground to hamburger in Ukraine. Russia is headed for disaster and breakup. The US has provided some important aid, but ultimately minor in the scheme of things. The US is signaling China that we don’t even have to break a sweat to dispose of Russia. Better yet, we’ve got someone doing it for us! At the same time we take an unexpectedly hard stance on Taiwan. Of course that’s going to rile up the Chinese. But IMO our intention is to give them some assistance in reconsidering their interests. The Taiwan objective is almost entirely about face and does little to nothing to improve China’s strategic position. A Chinese takeover of Taiwan would also guarantee nuclearization of South Korea, Japan, and Australia/New Zealand. China doesn’t want this. By putting our foot down in front of Taiwan, China is being invited to look towards Russia for their strategic goals. Land, energy, resources. The Russian Far East has it all. Russia is on the ropes, and if China helps Russia survive then the Russian Far East comes off the table. China is being offered a consolation prize that’s better than their first choice. In the long term the west’s challenge is to make sure they don’t ultimately collect that prize, or if they do it’s a poison pill. That would be a great outcome for us, and I'd like to see that come about. The amount of cooperation between China and Russia as of late doesn't lead me to believe that'll be the case. The reasons for the sino-soviet split have largely disappeared. I don't believe Russia will end up collapsing over it, much less denuclearize, which is what needs to happen for them to lose Siberia. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:52:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: A trade skirmish maybe but let’s work on getting there. We still have tariffs in place against China. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:52:11 PM EDT
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I don't think anyone else posted this yet, here's Perun discussing Ballistic & Cruise Missiles in Ukraine. I found it pretty interesting.
 Cruise & ballistic missiles in Ukraine - effectiveness, lessons (and are the Russians running out?) |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: A trade skirmish maybe but let’s work on getting there. We effectively had a dry-run during the Wuhan Flu: transport and shipping was halted and delayed enough to give a good simulation. What we have learned is we are robust, they are not. Their economy is on the bubble right now of catastrophe - 20% youth unemployment, collapsing housing market taking down financial markets and consumer demand with it, cratered exports from new lockdowns in the name of Now is a great time to let them complete their errors. Xi may have to drum up a war to stay in power, Taiwan may be time. Conversely, we may have as great a military and technological edge on them as we will ever have going forward. If they want war, too, let them roll the dice IMO. If you haven't been keeping up on China, it's grim over there, this wag calling it "Xi's Great Leap Backward": https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/08/04/xi-china-unemployment-jobs-economy-crisis-youth-mao-great-leap-forward/ |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I can't believe how much I learned of the geography for this region as well.  We'll all be hits at parties from now on. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: We'll all be hits at parties from now on. No kidding! (ok, kidding) True: two week's ago my Moldovan friend originally from Kishinev was at our house. She asked me what was up with the war. I gave a pretty brief summary but with a few things like "massing forces northwest of Kherson...," "possible drive from Zaporizhzhia towards Melitopol..." "exhaustian after the collapse of the Lysychansk pocket..." She just kept looking at me with ever-widening eyes, and finally said she was having hard time figuring the places and distances - and she used to live in the area and go to Odesa all the time, and knows her WWII history like any ex-Soviet school child. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:24:17 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for August 7th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-7 |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:52:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
My God. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: My God. Somebody is saying in the thread that there are lots of NCOs and even privates on it; it is not just officers. They have misinterpreted the list. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:24:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZlcEwWXwAAdbi_?format=jpg&name=medium BS. They have the capability to produce missiles. Limited numbers and limited capabilities maybe, but it's not like they're reduced to spears and slings. Missile technology predates micro circuitry. Of course, guided missiles with utility in a high-tech war might be a bigger problem. 
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: There is, but IMO you should look at the longer term/bigger picture. Russia’s play for European conquest is a failure but for political reasons they’ve committed their army to be ground to hamburger in Ukraine. Russia is headed for disaster and breakup. The US has provided some important aid, but ultimately minor in the scheme of things. The US is signaling China that we don’t even have to break a sweat to dispose of Russia. Better yet, we’ve got someone doing it for us! At the same time we take an unexpectedly hard stance on Taiwan. Of course that’s going to rile up the Chinese. But IMO our intention is to give them some assistance in reconsidering their interests. The Taiwan objective is almost entirely about face and does little to nothing to improve China’s strategic position. A Chinese takeover of Taiwan would also guarantee nuclearization of South Korea, Japan, and Australia/New Zealand. China doesn’t want this. By putting our foot down in front of Taiwan, China is being invited to look towards Russia for their strategic goals. Land, energy, resources. The Russian Far East has it all. Russia is on the ropes, and if China helps Russia survive then the Russian Far East comes off the table. China is being offered a consolation prize that’s better than their first choice. In the long term the west’s challenge is to make sure they don’t ultimately collect that prize, or if they do it’s a poison pill. One can only hope, my understanding is that Russia has said on multiple occasions that a Chinese attack on Siberia N Mongolia etc would be a instant nuclear response. The Chinese are actually buying Russian land and resources and Putin has got rich off it. There are 100,000 of thousand Chinese workers living in gated cities in Russia. All that happened around 2014-15. If the Russian people only knew that Putin has sold their birthright to fund expeditionary wars, it would be a real overthrow situation. We are talking trillions i. Natural resources being harvested by worker bees. The Russians even truck in loads of prostitutes to satisfy the Chinese men. All are on mandatory birth control so that China can’t populate, further Chinese kids born there are prohibited from citizenship unless they can pursuance a local worker to marry them and have kids. Even then they are likely to get deported. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:31:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Amnesty International representative in Ukraine resigns after report criticizing defense strategy
https://sankei.com/article/20220808-DFHTZAGHMZMILEGP5NNNX5KGGA/ Mr Pokarczuk, who announced his resignation, said Amnesty International had "produced material that sounded like it supported the Russian narrative". The Ukrainian government has also strongly opposed the report.
The Russian Embassy in the United States called for an end to Russophobic fabrications about strikes on ZNPP The Russian Embassy, located in the United States, reacted to a number of statements by the American media about the strikes on the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, RIA Novosti reports. https://novostivl.ru/post/838669/ |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:33:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonKey153: They're shitbags, but they're still human and able to adapt. Their surviving troops are vastly more experienced than the guys who started out. Now they have Iranian drones and even the fuckin Norks offering to send bodies. China doesn't even have to hand out whole aircraft. They can get Russia's production lines running again on Iskander or Su34/35 or whatever they need most. Hell, imagine the difference something as simple as a bunch of trucks and forklifts could make. The Chinese are supplying Russia secretly with tech for new vehicles, weapons. It’s been documented (I saw new Chinese thermals on BmD 4x?). but our administration isn’t ready to sanction China and the Chinese know it. Motes the pity, the end will be the same just more Ukrainian blood spent than necessary. Maybe once more of it shows up and enough gear to say but it’s just one and it might have been purchased on the black market….etc |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Somebody is saying in the thread that there are lots of NCOs and even privates on it; it is not just officers. They have misinterpreted the list. Is it possible that Ukraine is saying there are 5 officers in that pic and 4 of them Ukraine is not aware of? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:42:02 PM EDT
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Maybe no surprise to anyone, but it looks like a huge chunk of "Ukraine Aid" is money for us to replenish our own supplies we send them, money for them to buy weapons from us, money for their economy, and the rest is enough to prevent the russians from further going into Ukraine.
 Where did all the the money go? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:44:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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"Soon".
 Failed To Load Title Destruction of the Horde position by the assault group of the Sumy Partisan detachment after receiving intelligence
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Posted: 8/7/2022 11:53:34 PM EDT
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The Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to strike at Melitopol on the night of August 8. Russian air defense repulsed the attack, shot down at least two missiles - media.
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Posted: 8/8/2022 12:09:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Ours are fighting on the streets of Maryinka on the outskirts of Donetsk. Marinka itself was turned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine into a heavily fortified settlement, but not long ago it was subjected to massive artillery fire, after which the allied forces began to storm it.
https://real-vin.com/v-donecke-vzorvan-sklad-rossijskih-voennyh 
 https://zn.ua/ukr/UKRAINE/na-pivdennij-diljantsi-prodovzhujutsja-zapekli-aviatsijni-boji-ok-pivden.html Ukrainian aviation, together with missile and artillery units, destroyed 2️4 Russian military, one T-62 tank and five other units of other armored and automotive equipment in a day. In the area of Charivne, in the Beryslav district of the Kherson region, an ammunition depot was destroyed. The final losses of the enemy are found out. The Russians continue to strike civilian infrastructure. Heavy barreled artillery of the 152nd caliber shelled the Ship district of Nikolaev. "Grads" from the left bank of the Dnieper shelled the Nikopol district, damaging the pumping station and ten country houses. In both cases, there were no losses Despite the storm in the Black Sea, about a dozen warships of the Russian fleet continue to maneuver, among them four carriers of "Caliber" missiles and one large landing ship are ready. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 12:10:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/headlines/2136951-two-more-grain-ships-sail-from-ukraine-as-third-port-opens ...Pivdennyi, the third Ukrainian port included in the deal, was finally up and running as part of the initiative. Kubrakov had said previously the opening of Pivdennyi would push Ukraine's total export capacity up to three million tonnes a month. In peacetime, Ukraine exported up to six million tonnes of grain a month from its ports on the Black Sea and Sea of Azov coast. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 12:23:39 AM EDT
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Another drone grenade hit. This one is a kind of a tough watch. Yes, the invader is suffering the consequences of his actions. But it’s still a poor average bloke gasping out his life, flat on his back, all for a totally unnecessary war that had nothing to do with him. I hope justice is done to the people responsible.
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Posted: 8/8/2022 12:38:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Another drone grenade hit. This one is a kind of a tough watch. Yes, the invader is suffering the consequences of his actions. But it’s still a poor average bloke gasping out his life, flat on his back, all for a totally unnecessary war that had nothing to do with him. I hope justice is done to the people responsible.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke7EfiIvQJQHe could have turned his rifle on his CO. Then he'd at least have possibly died on his feet instead of his back. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 12:50:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/does-ukraine-now-have-agm-88-high-speed-anti-radiation-missiles I was stoked to hear about anti-radiation missiles in the hands of Ukrainians! This is a good start, but with Iranian UAVs now entering the fray, hopefully Israel starts sending its own radar killing Harpy drones down range too https://www.deagel.com/library/md/2007/m02007062400133.jpg Not going to happen. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 1:05:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I'm having a bad connection, but I did find this link: It's for the operator and user maintence manual for the system. Security classification is unclassified. See if you can obtain it from that link below. Electronic Media download format is here: HTTPS://ENT.LDAC.ARMY.MIL/ETMAPP I located it on this site. https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/Details.aspx?PUB_ID=83653,https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/Details.aspx?PUB_ID=83653 Hope this can help, you or they can call the phone number on that site above and someone might be able to assist. The phone number is for the US Army publishing directorate. (703) 614-3727. This link is for the manuals with other fire finding radar, but restricted for distribution by govt agencies and contractors. https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/Details.aspx?PUB_ID=83653 We have a bit of a language issue. It’s something relating to maps and a hard drive. Us techs set it up for them but they need to change the maps |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 1:37:05 AM EDT
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Drone hit on Russian troops with probably half a dozen wounded to some extent.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/wib041/drone_operators_getting_much_better_these_days/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Rare Russian APC destroyed: https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/wimut7/a_destroyed_russian_rkhbz_bmot_heavy_armoured/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 2:55:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/8/2022 3:00:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Wagner's PMC recruited more than 1,000 Russian prisoners for the war in Ukraine – Layout https://news.liga.net/all/news/chvk-vagnera-zaverbovala-bolee-1000-rossiyskih-zaklyuchennyh-na-voynu-v-ukrainu-verstka According to the publication, the Wagner PMC managed to recruit prisoners in ten regions of the aggressor country Russia. According to confirmed data of prisoners and their relatives, about 680 people were recruited in the Yaroslavl region, another 400 in the colonies of the Ryazan region. 270 people agreed to go to the front in colony No. 5 of the Tula region and about 250 people in the colony in the Arkhangelsk region, 130 people in Komi, at least 72 people in the Pskov region and at least 40 people in the penal colony No. 7 in St. Petersburg, the newspaper reports. For the special training of recruited prisoners, the Wagnerians created points on the basis of the colony in Rostov-on-Don, the newspaper reports. Preparation goes on for 20 hours a day, 4 hours are given for sleep. The first group has already been trained in this colony and went to the front on July 20. Prisoners are promised to pay about 200,000 rubles a month, and are also offered the payment of sick leave in case of injury in the amount of 300,000 rubles and 5 million rubles in case of death at the front. The Wagnerites also promise release if the prisoners survive six months in the war. On July 10, the Main Directorate of Intelligence announced that the Russian army had begun recruiting mercenaries for the war in Ukraine from prisoners. It is alleged that the recruiters plan to find 10,000 volunteers. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 3:51:55 AM EDT
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BDA of the Antonovsky Bridge courtesy of Russian press.
https://rg.ru/2022/08/08/vlasti-hersonskoj-oblasti-soobshchili-o-novom-udare-vsu-po-antonovskomu-mostu.html 
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Posted: 8/8/2022 4:15:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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💪 Russian ammunition depot destroyed in the north of Kharkiv region
"The scouts discovered the location of the unit of the Russian occupation troops. Subsequently, they recorded the fact of unloading artillery ammunition. The guardsmen transmitted the coordinates to the artillerymen, after which they made adjustments to the fire," the National Guard said. https://t.me/kharkivlife/45834
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Posted: 8/8/2022 4:30:29 AM EDT
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https://ria.ru/20220808/aes-1807966989.html
Two units of the Zaporizhzhya NPP after shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not work at full capacity SIMFEROPOL, Aug 8 - RIA Novosti. Two power units are not operating at full capacity at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant after shelling of its territory by Ukrainian troops, Reported Head of the Administration of Zaporizhzhya region Yevhen Balitsky. "The station is in normal mode, two reactors are not operating at full capacity, today they are controlled by Russian structures in cooperation with the station's employees," Balitsky said on the Rossiya 24 TV channel. https://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/35945 A HIMARS strike damaged a railway track near the bridge near the Kakhovskaya HPP. The roadbed was also damaged, the Russian Pantsir air defense system was destroyed. The accuracy of the strikes is simply incredible! |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 4:38:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Pretty cool counterbattery video. At least one and possibly two Russian guns visibly hit and burning.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/whxvbd/soldiers_of_the_terra_unit_demonstrate_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 5:01:01 AM EDT
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One thing that occured to me - allegedly HARM is now in Ukraine. That means they’ve found a way to hang and launch it from a Mig-29, or SU-24/25/27. What else is in Ukraine that’s air-launched? HARPOON. If they can adapt for HARM they can adapt for HARPOON. My guess is that the SU-24 and SU-27 could carry at least one HARPOON. Maybe the Mig-29 on the centerline.
It should be considered within the realm of possible now for Ukraine to stage an ASM strike anywhere in the western and southern Black Sea. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 5:23:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: One thing that occured to me - allegedly HARM is now in Ukraine. That means they’ve found a way to hang and launch it from a Mig-29, or SU-24/25/27. What else is in Ukraine that’s air-launched? HARPOON. If they can adapt for HARM they can adapt for HARPOON. My guess is that the SU-24 and SU-27 could carry at least one HARPOON. Maybe the Mig-29 on the centerline. It should be considered within the realm of possible now for Ukraine to stage an ASM strike anywhere in the western and southern Black Sea. Almighty T posted a sweet ground based version. UA's been getting aircraft pretty far south though. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2022 5:28:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: https://wartranslated.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Funkstation_R-123_IMG_1390-min-min-1024x768.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By K0UA: That is some "mighty fine" looking radio equipment there. https://wartranslated.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Funkstation_R-123_IMG_1390-min-min-1024x768.jpeg Leave it to the Russians to utilize something in the 21st Century that makes a 1960's era US 12-series radio look high-tech.
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Posted: 8/8/2022 5:39:35 AM EDT
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Production of Bayraktar in Ukraine: the ambassador spoke about the creation of the plant
https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/4503442-proyzvodstvo-Bayraktar-v-ukrayne-posol-rasskazal-o-sozdanyy-zavoda The construction of the Bayraktar plant in Ukraine is now at the stage of preparation. In particular, the project of the plant itself has already been developed. This was announced by the Ambassador of Ukraine to Turkey Vasyl Bodnar in an interview with RBC-Ukraine, published on Monday, August 8. "The plant will be built. Just a week ago, the government approved a bilateral agreement and sent it to parliament for ratification, an agreement on the construction of the plant itself," he said. The diplomat added that the owner of the company Baykar created a company in Ukraine, and it acquired a land plot. The ambassador noted that it developed a project of the plant itself and intends to implement it to the end, "since it was almost a personal obligation of the owners of the company to make this production in Ukraine." "It is not only political, but also practical, since a significant part of the models that will be produced at this plant will have Components of Ukrainian production. It can be engines, other spare parts, wheels, many different, high-tech in our country, and can be used for these aircraft," Bodnar summed up. Recall, the Lithuanian authorities sent a military drone Bayraktar to Ukraine, the money for which was collected by Lithuanians. The Norwegians, following the Lithuanians and Poles, decided to raise funds for the purchase of the Bayraktar TB2 drone for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:10:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Russia can’t pay for modern things from China. Maybe spare parts, older tanks, obsolescent munitions…but they can’t afford new Chinese fighters because they couldn’t afford new Russian fighters… They can if China offers them a lend/lease type arrangement- or “tanks and SU-27’s” instead of “belts and roads”… |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:21:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Western companies retain the ability to remotely brick their fabs and chip design systems if they violate sanctions The West can remotely brick the chips in systems used by China that we outsourced the manufacture of to China? I wouldn’t be surprised if they built similar capabilities into the computers and systems they manufacture and are used by the west |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:26:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: …We blockaid China for 3 days. They run out of fuel. And their billion people starve. How hand-to-mouth China lives on food and energy supply from other countries is amazing. Let alone going broke. And the foreign investment flight out. Isn’t that what led Japan to attack America? History repeats itself… |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:35:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY12ga: They can if China offers them a lend/lease type arrangement- or “tanks and SU-27’s” instead of “belts and roads”… The US offers lend lease and doesn’t collect what’s owed. China will only lease equipment that will be paid back. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:38:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY12ga: The West can remotely brick the chips in systems used by China that we outsourced the manufacture of to China? I wouldn’t be surprised if they built similar capabilities into the computers and systems they manufacture and are used by the west China has a smaller share of semiconductor sales than the United States has. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:38:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY12ga: Isn’t that what led Japan to attack America? History repeats itself… No, the United States did not blockade Japan. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 6:51:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Somebody is saying in the thread that there are lots of NCOs and even privates on it; it is not just officers. They have misinterpreted the list. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AROKIE: My God. Somebody is saying in the thread that there are lots of NCOs and even privates on it; it is not just officers. They have misinterpreted the list. No such thing as a Russian NCO. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 7:12:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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  Captured ammo truck |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 7:41:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Somebody is saying in the thread that there are lots of NCOs and even privates on it; it is not just officers. They have misinterpreted the list. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AROKIE: My God. Somebody is saying in the thread that there are lots of NCOs and even privates on it; it is not just officers. They have misinterpreted the list. Yea, when I posted it had just come up, so it's good we can get clarification on stuff like this. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 7:45:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: We have a bit of a language issue. It’s something relating to maps and a hard drive. Us techs set it up for them but they need to change the maps Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I'm having a bad connection, but I did find this link: It's for the operator and user maintence manual for the system. Security classification is unclassified. See if you can obtain it from that link below. Electronic Media download format is here: HTTPS://ENT.LDAC.ARMY.MIL/ETMAPP I located it on this site. https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/Details.aspx?PUB_ID=83653,https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/Details.aspx?PUB_ID=83653 Hope this can help, you or they can call the phone number on that site above and someone might be able to assist. The phone number is for the US Army publishing directorate. (703) 614-3727. This link is for the manuals with other fire finding radar, but restricted for distribution by govt agencies and contractors. https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/Details.aspx?PUB_ID=83653 We have a bit of a language issue. It’s something relating to maps and a hard drive. Us techs set it up for them but they need to change the maps Thanks for letting me know, can they call the techs at Raytheon about it? |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 7:50:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Thanks everyone for contributing in this thread, I have to run an emergency errand for my family today, nothing serious, but glad I can keep up with what's going on over there with you guys.
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Posted: 8/8/2022 8:48:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks for letting me know, can they call the techs at Raytheon about it? Is it raytheon that makes them now? |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 9:10:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY12ga: They can if China offers them a lend/lease type arrangement- or “tanks and SU-27’s” instead of “belts and roads”… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY12ga: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Russia can’t pay for modern things from China. Maybe spare parts, older tanks, obsolescent munitions…but they can’t afford new Chinese fighters because they couldn’t afford new Russian fighters… They can if China offers them a lend/lease type arrangement- or “tanks and SU-27’s” instead of “belts and roads”… IIRC, China still can't copy Russian engines and Russia still makes them for China. |
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