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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:12:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdfmJOgWAAE2mQw?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdfmJOgWAAAoEXa?format=jpg&name=medium It disrupted the referendum too as a bonus. Precinct commissions in Alchevsk were evacuated to bomb shelters in the morning due to shelling from Kyiv, the CEC of the LPR reported https://t.me/rian_ru/179209 |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:13:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:14:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Seems they went to battle without their anti-ditching beam. That is what the log we see on many vehicles are for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Good catch, but man look at that mud already. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:15:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Just to illustrate how deep they're digging to try to drum up numbers, they're having "refugees" vote including having people show up at the Embassies in Moscow- In Yakutsk, more than 200 people voted in a referendum in three days https://ria.ru/20220925/golosovanie-1819330009.html YAKUTSK, Sep 25 – RIA Novosti. According to the results of three days of the referendum in the city of Yakutsk, the number of voters on the accession of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to the Russian Federation amounted to 229 people, a source from the precinct commission of the referendum in the city told RIA Novosti. Earlier it was reported that following the results of two days of the referendum on the accession of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to Russia more than 120 refugees voted in Yakutsk. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:16:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Wow. I’m speechless. Yeah, that's a great update. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:16:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:19:52 AM EDT
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Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:22:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:22:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:23:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I never heard of that but not surprised. Thank God we got rid of 100K hard core commies. We would have had our commie revolution in the 70's instead of today had they all stayed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By centex_SR-15: Not to mention that during the same timeframe Stalin invited Americans to immigrate to Russia to escape the Great Depression and upwards of 100,000 did. Afterwards he changed his mind declaring foreigners to be spies and most of them were “purged”. I never heard of that but not surprised. Thank God we got rid of 100K hard core commies. We would have had our commie revolution in the 70's instead of today had they all stayed. We also basically saved russian communism by feeding them during the famine of 1921-1922. The commies were not only incapable of running the agricultural economy, they were selling confiscated grain on the world market to “show that communism works”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Relief_Administration |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:24:23 AM EDT
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This always softens my heart.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:24:54 AM EDT
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A fragment of the "Geran-2" UAV, which arrived today at the headquarters of the "South" operational command in Odessa.
 https://t.me/odessa_typical/19070 |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:24:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What is this in reference to? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:26:21 AM EDT
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Another free assessment for September 24th by Malcontent News. 74 pages.
Direct PDF to read here: https://www.patreon.com/file?h=72446466&i=11850834 |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:26:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:26:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PMB1086: What is this in reference to? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PMB1086: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What is this in reference to? The Iranian Suicide drone launching positions, I didn't link correctly for the correct context. 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:27:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I never heard of that but not surprised. Thank God we got rid of 100K hard core commies. We would have had our commie revolution in the 70's instead of today had they all stayed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By centex_SR-15: Not to mention that during the same timeframe Stalin invited Americans to immigrate to Russia to escape the Great Depression and upwards of 100,000 did. Afterwards he changed his mind declaring foreigners to be spies and most of them were “purged”. I never heard of that but not surprised. Thank God we got rid of 100K hard core commies. We would have had our commie revolution in the 70's instead of today had they all stayed. I can only add a small piece to this, but I know a significant portion of that was Mennonite Missionaries who moved there to help with agriculture and minister. They were disappeared. I don’t anyone would think of Mennonites as hardcore commies. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:32:22 AM EDT
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Ukraine needs to start camping MANPADs gunners on top of buildings especially near known HQs and other important infrastructure. All that small arms fire from the ground seems to be practically a waste of ammo.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:33:10 AM EDT
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Translated: The temperature is rising. Seems like lots of women protesting the Russian mobilization.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:35:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Absolutely NO and sort of yes (respectively to both of you): Normies completely underestimate the ability of any military unit to know what the fuck is going on around them at any given time. I don't care if you have tank thermal sights, drones, aerostats, or satellites. It isn't that the information isn't THERE, it is that it doesn't reach the level that the affected people can USE IT. Or some dude was asleep on post, or there was an RF dead zone, or nobody in the TOC thought what they were seeing was important enough to share. Like, seriously, go back and play C&C or Starcraft, where the "fog of war" is only cleared out for a minute within a very short radius of the unit blundering around the map. That's the most accurate game mechanic EVER. You also simply cannot have units or observers everywhere, all of the time. If we could do that, then US units wouldn't have run across IEDs or wandered into complex ambushes all the time...which they did with alarming regularity. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: I would of thought Ukraine's recon would of prevented them from rolling into the kill box. I wasn’t a Soldier but I don’t think that’s how that works. The enemy puts the killbox where you’re going to be, if it can… Absolutely NO and sort of yes (respectively to both of you): Normies completely underestimate the ability of any military unit to know what the fuck is going on around them at any given time. I don't care if you have tank thermal sights, drones, aerostats, or satellites. It isn't that the information isn't THERE, it is that it doesn't reach the level that the affected people can USE IT. Or some dude was asleep on post, or there was an RF dead zone, or nobody in the TOC thought what they were seeing was important enough to share. Like, seriously, go back and play C&C or Starcraft, where the "fog of war" is only cleared out for a minute within a very short radius of the unit blundering around the map. That's the most accurate game mechanic EVER. You also simply cannot have units or observers everywhere, all of the time. If we could do that, then US units wouldn't have run across IEDs or wandered into complex ambushes all the time...which they did with alarming regularity. A killbox is generally an air force term. More on that later. An engagement area is generally a piece of ground, usually a rectangle. Doesn't have to be, it just turns out that way. You look the route bad guys are going (avenue of approach) and basically then look for a concealed piece of terrain (woods, town) that looks along the avenue of approach to a place you cant hide (engagement area---big open fields). You lay out weapons appropriately. Put the NLAWs 600 meters away, the stugnas and javs a few klicks out, dismounts and infantry up close, and then box it in with mines, blocking mines between you and bad guys, fixing mines on teh flans, a nice U shape, and the cherry on top is the artillery pre planned target in the middle. This is the traditional "engagement area" and between the tanks, land mines, dug in positions, and general obviousness of where it SHOULD be, especially when dealing with professionals...you sorta start knowing where it should be, and you send your fools (recon, cav scouts  ) forward to get shot at first. They are willing to sacrifice their lives to find these things as long as back in garrison you let them wear cool hats and weird metal jangly things on their boots.In modern day times, as artillery and spotting and GPS make everything faster, and much more accurate, the kill box is different. Now three or four dudes in the woods, or of course, a drone, can spot you, and call in artillery, and it is as we've seen a perpetual game of hide and go seek. So, Ukrainian recon cant help you as you are looking for four hidden guys and they are looking for moving targets. And you may find most of them, but GPS and radio are so plentiful an screen line of OPS could be out there and you cant get all of them. So the key, I imagine, is you've gotta go to the source and kill the shooters, as the spotters cant be all found and killed. Hence HIMARs and drones. To be frank, there isnt much point in pushing infantry forward, as its a big artillery duel, unless this is a feint and you are bluntly sacrificing men to fix enemy attention. Which is a valid tactic, if you must. The phrases that pay are "set the conditions" dont rush to failure" As an aside, shifting gears, it is really hard to defuse some of those artillery driven land mines, and armies in general underresource their mine clearing units in peacetime. Artillery delivered mines flying over the front into rear areas and roads are probably very effective. 120 tanks? I doubt it. 120 armored vehicles? I could believe that, no problem. And that's not a Russian thing. Artillery delivered mines are a really really tough problem to solve. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:35:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Ukraine needs to start camping MANPADs gunners on top of buildings especially near known HQs and other important infrastructure. All that small arms fire from the ground seems to be practically a waste of ammo. My thoughts too. These drones are apparently easy to hear and see in some cases even from the ground. They travel slowly, so if they had some people along the ground that could quickly get reports in on an app or something to give air defenses nearby a part of the sky to start looking for them near the bigger cities it would help with shoot downs I think. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:39:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Hitting the bridge again 20 minutes ago.
 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:40:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: My thoughts too. These drones are apparently easy to hear and see in some cases even from the ground. They travel slowly, so if they had some people along the ground that could quickly get reports in on an app or something to give air defenses nearby a part of the sky to start looking for them near the bigger cities it would help with shoot downs I think. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Ukraine needs to start camping MANPADs gunners on top of buildings especially near known HQs and other important infrastructure. All that small arms fire from the ground seems to be practically a waste of ammo. My thoughts too. These drones are apparently easy to hear and see in some cases even from the ground. They travel slowly, so if they had some people along the ground that could quickly get reports in on an app or something to give air defenses nearby a part of the sky to start looking for them near the bigger cities it would help with shoot downs I think. I think this is the best they can do right now without access to more advanced systems. The rest of GD seems to think they can shoot these down with a shotgun and some bird shot
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pivoproseem: One of the major milestones in the Russian watch industry was the result of buying the bankrupt Dueber-Hampden Watch Factory in Ohio and sending employees there to train and set up machinery. https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/russian-watches-part-2-the-first-moscow-watch-factory-poljot/ I've got one of those Russian Hampdens around here. It's hilarious when you compare it to the American made version. Made on the same machinery, the same design. The American version actually has very good fit and finish. The Soviet version is made of the cheapest metal available and looks like it was made in a dark shed by a worker with a dull file... . Typical of communist products. The Soviets were also busy buying up other American technology through their Amtorg "business entity". Everything from steel mills to automotive assembly line technology to dam construction techniques. American companies were desperate to make money during the Depression and the Soviets took full advantage of that. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:43:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
I rode with these guys for a few days. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:43:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:44:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: I think this is the best they can do right now without access to more advanced systems. The rest of GD seems to think they can shoot these down with a shotgun and some bird shot Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Ukraine needs to start camping MANPADs gunners on top of buildings especially near known HQs and other important infrastructure. All that small arms fire from the ground seems to be practically a waste of ammo. My thoughts too. These drones are apparently easy to hear and see in some cases even from the ground. They travel slowly, so if they had some people along the ground that could quickly get reports in on an app or something to give air defenses nearby a part of the sky to start looking for them near the bigger cities it would help with shoot downs I think. I think this is the best they can do right now without access to more advanced systems. The rest of GD seems to think they can shoot these down with a shotgun and some bird shot Yea, these things aren't that easy. It's hard to take care of a DJI Mavic that is almost a kilometer away and so tiny they are impossible to spot visually, and very hard for a thermal imaging system. That's why the anti drone systems come with powerful magnified optical systems, thermal sensors, radar, and electronic counter measures to jam them in an area. You can get a handle on them, find the weaknesses of the system, their range and speed, find where they are launching from etc. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:47:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Zelenskyy was elected in 2014? Back to your agitprop notes, Ivan!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By voyager3: I keep seeing all the posts suggesting that Israel puts itself on the line and I don't understand where they got the notion. Israel doesn't owe Ukraine and its people a thing. Out of two millions of ex-USSR Israelis, about half are from Ukraine and they don't have any fond memories of the place. The fact that Ukraine elected a president with some Jewish roots was actually the result of 2014 war fatigue and the votes mostly came from the pro-russian and indifferent parts of the population. The nationalists despised him and being Jewish didn't help. Ukraine as a country never wasted a chance to vote against Israel in the UN and to sell aerospace and military technology to its enemies like Iran. Not even going to start on how gladly the local collaborationists helped the Nazis during WW2. That orcs are now using Iranian drones on UA is some poetic justice. Let the antisemites slaughter each other as far as IL is concerned. Zelenskyy was elected in 2014? Back to your agitprop notes, Ivan!! Last two presidents of Ukraine were Jewish. These trolls, Putin nad dabbers, US agiprops, are just too funny. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:47:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Will we see a reintroduction of the barrage balloons!? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band. In some manner, I'd like to see Ukrainian aerostats. Balloons with radar and thermal optical systems to look for them. Keep the balloon at a lower altitude so that the Kamikaze drones will tend to skyline themselves against the cold background of the sky and vector air defenses to them. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:50:04 AM EDT
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Not a great solution, but tracer rounds would help get shots on target when countering the Iranian drones. I didn’t see any tracer rounds in the one or two videos I watched where they were firing small arms at them.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:52:32 AM EDT
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 Do Ukraine Infantry Need the US Army’s New XM5 Rifle? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:53:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The Ukrainians were requesting these a few months back. The particular version in the article can be deployed from the German MARS (HIMARS) system. But the interesting part is that the US supplied a very similar system over a month ago as well. RAAMS, which can be launched from 155mm artillery systems. https://en.defence-ua.com/media/contentimages/779631ac510c327f.jpg https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/ukraine_will_get_raam_system_from_usa-4159.html Apparently, they are proving to be very effective. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By sq40: https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukraines_armed_forces_destroy_120_russian_tanks_in_kherson_region_with_german_at2_mines-4325.html Ukraine’s Armed Forces Destroy 120 russian Tanks in Kherson Region with German AT2 Mines Armed Forces of Ukraine use German DM1399 AT2 scatterable anti-tank mines, which supposedly have been secretly provided by Great Britain or Germany A photo appeared on the network showing the DM1399 version of the AT2 scatterable anti-tank mine that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are using in the Kherson region. The mine can be deployed from a rocket. It has a diameter of 103.5 mm and a weight of 2.22 kg. The mine auto-destructs after one of six selectable periods, up to a maximum of four days. Apparently, russian army has lost 120 tanks in the Kherson region over the past 3 weeks because of new German weapons in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. https://en.defence-ua.com/media/contentimages/243632f232facfec.jpeg The Ukrainians were requesting these a few months back. The particular version in the article can be deployed from the German MARS (HIMARS) system. But the interesting part is that the US supplied a very similar system over a month ago as well. RAAMS, which can be launched from 155mm artillery systems. https://en.defence-ua.com/media/contentimages/779631ac510c327f.jpg https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/ukraine_will_get_raam_system_from_usa-4159.html Apparently, they are proving to be very effective. It’s really amazing you can deploy that many mines via rocket like that. I can’t imagine the engineering that went into that. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:54:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I've no idea if the collective wisdom (cough) in DC has this in mind, but a conventional attack on Russian oil and gas fields should be part of a "response." That's the only thing Russia has going for it economically. Wreck their energy production sector, and Russia is finished. On paper, it would look like missile strikes in the middle of nowhere that don't kill anybody at all, except maybe a handful of hapless maintenance techs. But hitting the foundation of their economy would take them over the cliff for good. Europe (Germany) and other “Ally”s would have a seizure if we threatened Russian oil/gas. It’s a great way to hit back. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:55:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yea, these things aren't that easy. It's hard to take care of a DJI Mavic that is almost a kilometer away and so tiny they are impossible to spot visually, and very hard for a thermal imaging system. That's why the anti drone systems come with powerful magnified optical systems, thermal sensors, radar, and electronic counter measures to jam them in an area. You can get a handle on them, find the weaknesses of the system, their range and speed, find where they are launching from etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Ukraine needs to start camping MANPADs gunners on top of buildings especially near known HQs and other important infrastructure. All that small arms fire from the ground seems to be practically a waste of ammo. My thoughts too. These drones are apparently easy to hear and see in some cases even from the ground. They travel slowly, so if they had some people along the ground that could quickly get reports in on an app or something to give air defenses nearby a part of the sky to start looking for them near the bigger cities it would help with shoot downs I think. I think this is the best they can do right now without access to more advanced systems. The rest of GD seems to think they can shoot these down with a shotgun and some bird shot Yea, these things aren't that easy. It's hard to take care of a DJI Mavic that is almost a kilometer away and so tiny they are impossible to spot visually, and very hard for a thermal imaging system. That's why the anti drone systems come with powerful magnified optical systems, thermal sensors, radar, and electronic counter measures to jam them in an area. You can get a handle on them, find the weaknesses of the system, their range and speed, find where they are launching from etc. Yeah it's for sure a difficult problem set with no one size fits all solution. Someone mentioned the return of barrage balloons. I can't think of a better term, but maybe stringing up barrage style balloons with nets connecting them around buildings ala 'cope cage' style may actually provide some last ditch defense/blast mitigation maybe even entangle the drone from ever exploding. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:57:35 AM EDT
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With that luxurious two whole weeks of training... about half of them will be deep in the throws of the DTs right about the time they are being shot at.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:59:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: We were complicit.....journalist reports were coming out about what was happening and the US press and leftist scums of the 30's covered it up.....like the Hollywood commie cock lovers of the 30's...they REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT....they just ignored it despite photos...despite dozens of witnesses. WE WERE COMPLICIT dude....FDR knew and many in the state dept. KNEW. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: Originally Posted By PeepEater: The US has a problem admitting the USSR murdered millions of Ukranians for Lebensraum for Soviet Russians because it would mean that we helped with the communist invasion and occupation of Eastern Europe. Not that the Germans were the good guys by any stretch but we were in fact some of the baddies. We weren’t complicit with the first part, but we certainly were with the second. We were complicit.....journalist reports were coming out about what was happening and the US press and leftist scums of the 30's covered it up.....like the Hollywood commie cock lovers of the 30's...they REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT....they just ignored it despite photos...despite dozens of witnesses. WE WERE COMPLICIT dude....FDR knew and many in the state dept. KNEW. We did absolutely know. But the Soviets pushed hard the pain of collectivization/ dust bowl narrative. World intervention wasn’t a thing then but it should have been an alarm bell for us. FDRs wife was big commi sympathizer. It was a bad time in the USA in 1930-34. Very bad, we honestly couldn’t have done much except maybe sent a few destroyers to the Black Sea with extraction vessels. However each village was a bubble of NKVD control points. People couldn’t get out. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:02:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:06:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Just to illustrate how deep they're digging to try to drum up numbers, they're having "refugees" vote including having people show up at the Embassies in Moscow- In Yakutsk, more than 200 people voted in a referendum in three days https://ria.ru/20220925/golosovanie-1819330009.html YAKUTSK, Sep 25 – RIA Novosti. According to the results of three days of the referendum in the city of Yakutsk, the number of voters on the accession of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to the Russian Federation amounted to 229 people, a source from the precinct commission of the referendum in the city told RIA Novosti. Earlier it was reported that following the results of two days of the referendum on the accession of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to Russia more than 120 refugees voted in Yakutsk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Just to illustrate how deep they're digging to try to drum up numbers, they're having "refugees" vote including having people show up at the Embassies in Moscow- In Yakutsk, more than 200 people voted in a referendum in three days https://ria.ru/20220925/golosovanie-1819330009.html YAKUTSK, Sep 25 – RIA Novosti. According to the results of three days of the referendum in the city of Yakutsk, the number of voters on the accession of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to the Russian Federation amounted to 229 people, a source from the precinct commission of the referendum in the city told RIA Novosti. Earlier it was reported that following the results of two days of the referendum on the accession of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to Russia more than 120 refugees voted in Yakutsk. 15%….at gunpoint… |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:07:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/c39115d4ed69e6879f822686115d444f__1__jpg-2538465.JPG Ypa.... DaBai eshe.... Mbi tak HpaBitcR eti.... ClaBa YkpaiHa !!! |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:07:44 AM EDT
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Dude, a real war awakens the beast in any human, Americans haven't had this in two generations. Korea was last full on fix the bayonets, keep a bullet for yourself, weekly replacements in platoon type war. There is no modern analog in USA to judge from. This war makes GWOT look like larping or Cosplay. Not a Gwot veteran but I do have some insight from them and of course have experienced this one’s brutality to compare too.
Trophies are the battle right of all warriors. I wouldn’t keep body parts and crap, but guns, kit, flags, etc are gtg. Torture and crap is verboten by Ukrainians but they know their guys are tortured so I have no sympathy for the invaders. A Russian that doesn’t surrender might get a kick or two but isn’t getting cut or electrocuted like the Russians do regularly. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:11:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Seems they went to battle without their anti-ditching beam. That is what the log we see on many vehicles are for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"The mighty90 Russian tank is impervious to mud and other obstacles, no ditching beam required comrad" |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:17:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: "The mighty90 Russian tank is impervious to mud and other obstacles, no ditching beam required comrad" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"The mighty90 Russian tank is impervious to mud and other obstacles, no ditching beam required comrad" I'm surprised Russia decided to commit T-90s to this.. must be serious
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:19:28 AM EDT
[#43]
I wonder if the UA can cut off Crimea before winter. Seems like they will cut off the eastern kharkiv region. Do they have enough tanks and troops to charge to azov sea?
I believe those attacks in Donetsk over the last couple of weeks may be telling us something. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:25:04 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Hitting the bridge again 20 minutes ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdgP2ipX0AU4QUD?format=jpg&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdgP2isX0AAp_gp?format=jpg&name=360x360 That bridge is pretty resilient. Needs a 2000lb GBU into the pier. But I'm guessing they don't want to do that. Dropping a span is a lot easier to fix for the Ukrainians (relatively speaking). |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:32:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
A story in three parts ❗️❗️❗️It is reported that a policeman at a rally hit a woman in the face. A policeman in Dagestan runs away from protesters
URGENT! The security forces started shooting. It is not yet clear in the air or in people.
Or a summary. During the protest, police officers beat several men and took them to the police station. The women failed to fight them off. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:40:37 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: That bridge is pretty resilient. Needs a 2000lb GBU into the pier. But I'm guessing they don't want to do that. Dropping a span is a lot easier to fix for the Ukrainians (relatively speaking). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Hitting the bridge again 20 minutes ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdgP2ipX0AU4QUD?format=jpg&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdgP2isX0AAp_gp?format=jpg&name=360x360 That bridge is pretty resilient. Needs a 2000lb GBU into the pier. But I'm guessing they don't want to do that. Dropping a span is a lot easier to fix for the Ukrainians (relatively speaking). Need to give the Ukraine air force some B1's and let them do some fast bombing runs 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:40:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: We were complicit.....journalist reports were coming out about what was happening and the US press and leftist scums of the 30's covered it up.....like the Hollywood commie cock lovers of the 30's...they REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT....they just ignored it despite photos...despite dozens of witnesses. WE WERE COMPLICIT dude....FDR knew and many in the state dept. KNEW. It wasn’t so much they knew as they were in favor of it. The US State Dept. was riddled with communists during WWII. A few years later the same assholes that sold out Poland and Eastern Europe lost China to the communists too. Fuck FDR. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:43:07 AM EDT
[#48]
 Failed To Load Title Update from Ukraine | What a Twist! Ruzzia Runs Away leaving new tanks and planes | Glory to Ukraine (3 hours ago) |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:46:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#49]
Okay, I take it back- no summary possible at this point. Dagestan is getting feisty.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:48:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: It wasn’t so much they knew as they were in favor of it. The US State Dept. was riddled with communists during WWII. A few years later the same assholes that sold out Poland and Eastern Europe lost China to the communists too. Fuck FDR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By Jozsi: We were complicit.....journalist reports were coming out about what was happening and the US press and leftist scums of the 30's covered it up.....like the Hollywood commie cock lovers of the 30's...they REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT....they just ignored it despite photos...despite dozens of witnesses. WE WERE COMPLICIT dude....FDR knew and many in the state dept. KNEW. It wasn’t so much they knew as they were in favor of it. The US State Dept. was riddled with communists during WWII. A few years later the same assholes that sold out Poland and Eastern Europe lost China to the communists too. Fuck FDR. Yes, all true. And the best documentary to understand how communists have been embedded in the US government for well over 100 years is:  The Subversion Factor Edward Griffin The Subversion Factor: Part 1 - Moles In High Places, Part 2: The Open Gates of Troy If you haven't seen this, put it on your big screen and make popcorn. It's that good. I saw it in the late 1980s and must have given out at least 50 copies. |
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