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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:22:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack67:


Can that be the major part of the big uptick in aircraft losses?

I thought it was probably sortie rate + riskier mission profile. Maybe not? I believe you said before these were significantly more capable.
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Originally Posted By Jack67:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Something new has been confirmed.


Can that be the major part of the big uptick in aircraft losses?

I thought it was probably sortie rate + riskier mission profile. Maybe not? I believe you said before these were significantly more capable.


I'm almost certain all the factors you mentioned are contributing to those losses.  To make matters worse an amraam missile might not set off a warning in a Russian aircraft's radar warning receiver.   Or if it does, it's too late to do anything about it.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:26:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band.
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Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:27:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


The police is never your friend, nowhere on this planet.

Fucking bastards.
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Originally Posted By doc540:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



there it is

voices of protest answered by machinegun fire


The police is never your friend, nowhere on this planet.

Fucking bastards.



lmao.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:29:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:32:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I'm almost certain all the factors you mentioned are contributing to those losses.  To make matters worse an amraam missile might not set off a warning in a Russian aircraft's radar warning receiver.   Or if it does, it's too late to do anything about it.
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That’s ~six weeks from announcing the transfer, to operational in foreign hands. The coordination and effort is remarkable.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:33:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:34:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:



there it is

voices of protest answered by machinegun fire
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These people in these regions need to learn about glass bottles and gasoline. It's one of the effective tools they have. Show up at the recruiting offices at night. Throw a brick through the window to break it, a half dozen bottles of gas, then 1 molotov. or 1 molotov then shower the place with bottles of gas after it is lit. But there is absolutely no reason to be fooling around trying to light a bunch of wicks while the cops are closing in.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:38:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack67:


That’s ~six weeks from announcing the transfer, to operational in foreign hands. The coordination and effort is remarkable.
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Originally Posted By Jack67:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I'm almost certain all the factors you mentioned are contributing to those losses.  To make matters worse an amraam missile might not set off a warning in a Russian aircraft's radar warning receiver.   Or if it does, it's too late to do anything about it.


That’s ~six weeks from announcing the transfer, to operational in foreign hands. The coordination and effort is remarkable.


It's going to snowball over time.  As more longer range air defense units show up in unexpected areas the attrition of the Russian air force accelerates.


Now the Russians have to guess which ones are the wooden dummies, and which ones are real.
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:45:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Firefly1032:


Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.
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Originally Posted By Firefly1032:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band.


Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.


They are capable of flying fairly high altitude.  They fly low so radar doesn't see them.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:47:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:53:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Thanks. I am not familiar with the stuff so do you just press the button? I know my questions are basic here but I have to explain this to a guy who then tell others.
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Thanks. I am not familiar with the stuff so do you just press the button? I know my questions are basic here but I have to explain this to a guy who then tell others.


Jesus how was @m35ben ever banned….

Thanks for what you're doing man! Would be honored to buy you your next subscription (you can hold me to that and please do!)
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:54:09 PM EDT
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Reported Russian shelling have decreased today, few areas in Kherson area.



Firms, 5 minutes ago.










Link Posted: 9/25/2022 1:56:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:


Jesus how was m35ben ever banned….

Thanks for what you're doing man! Would be honored to buy you your next subscription (you can hold me to that and please do!)
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
Thanks. I am not familiar with the stuff so do you just press the button? I know my questions are basic here but I have to explain this to a guy who then tell others.


Jesus how was m35ben ever banned….

Thanks for what you're doing man! Would be honored to buy you your next subscription (you can hold me to that and please do!)


I love seeing people helping in different ways here, this site is very unique with people from interesting fields of experience.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:01:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K0UA:
Wonder how long it will be before the Dagestan police switch from firing shots in the air to firing shots into flesh.?
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They'd better evacuate their families before they try it. Dagestanis, like any  any North Caucasus tribe, can teach Hatfield and McCoy a few lessons.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:02:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Firefly1032:


Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.
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Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band.


Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.

Are the gepards not able to track these?
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:05:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By klinc:


They should hold a referendum to leave russia.
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I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm)
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:06:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Are the gepards not able to track these?
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By Firefly1032:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band.


Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.

Are the gepards not able to track these?


Don't the ZSUs have programmable fuzing?
I seem to recall they were also able to be visually sighted.

If they are coming in with speeds and altitudes consistent, they are easy meat for that.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:06:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex9661:


They'd better evacuate their families before they try it. Dagestanis, like any  any North Caucasus tribe, can teach Hatfield and McCoy a few lessons.
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there it is
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:07:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By weptek911:


I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm)
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Originally Posted By weptek911:
Originally Posted By klinc:


They should hold a referendum to leave russia.


I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm)


I thought Russia was all about referendums lately.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:08:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Are the gepards not able to track these?
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Originally Posted By Firefly1032:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Every instance they are filmed, they seem to fly in a narrow altitude band.


Time to bring the WWII flak cannons out of retirement as well.

Are the gepards not able to track these?


They could, but there are only a few of those units, and each one only has an effective range around 5km.  So you would need alot to defend a single city.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:09:25 PM EDT
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We have some possibly huge news.  

Supposedly in Lyman area.

Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:11:41 PM EDT
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Interesting idea.  Use local movements/attacks to mask the much larger one.  

Attachment Attached File


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My good laugh for the day
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:20:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Good catch, but man look at that mud already.
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Seems they went to battle without their anti-ditching beam. That is what the log we see on many vehicles are for.


Good catch, but man look at that mud already.
The radio said lots of rain and cold weather in UA now, which will slow down the Kherson offence. Preferably take Kherson before the winter is ideal

This is also good, which should starve the RA during the winter, given the bridges are out.  Hope this plays out well
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:23:25 PM EDT
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Ongoing. Allegedly Rosgvardya making arrests.



Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:25:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:


Sacrifice the America city that per capita has more gun shops and topless bars than any city in America??
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That is necessarily a bad thing? Because we can rebuild the infrastructure.


Sacrifice the America city that per capita has more gun shops and topless bars than any city in America??


Can we talk them into hitting New Orleans instead?
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:27:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Ongoing. Allegedly Rosgvardya making arrests.



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I’ve always been of the opinion that Dagestanis just wanna be left alone, prolly more so than the Chechens.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:28:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:


Can we talk them into hitting New Orleans instead?
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Marcellos ain't gonna let that happen.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:29:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:


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Depending on the condition of their guidance systems, they might anyway.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:31:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dillydilly:

I’ve always been of the opinion that Dagestanis just wanna be left alone, prolly more so than the Chechens.
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Then that is gonna be a problem

Emergency appeal! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️ ValLagyi I believe that we will disrupt the mobilization - there is no doubt! Today, all of Russia and all of Dagestan saw how to keep their sons out of the war! Today, all villages and all cities of Dagestan have received this lesson, and from tomorrow we will start hunting for everyone who helps mobilization! Your property and your health will no longer be safe, insha Allah! We declare the partisan movement in Dagestan open! And tomorrow you will see our plan! Today is the beginning of your imminent end insha Allah! The truth is with us, this is how Allah prepares his slaves for serious work and actions, insha Allah!
https://t.me/utro_dagestan/2964
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:34:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:35:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack67:


Can that be the major part of the big uptick in aircraft losses?

I thought it was probably sortie rate + riskier mission profile. Maybe not? I believe you said before these were significantly more capable.
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Originally Posted By Jack67:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Something new has been confirmed.


Can that be the major part of the big uptick in aircraft losses?

I thought it was probably sortie rate + riskier mission profile. Maybe not? I believe you said before these were significantly more capable.


Didn't think the NASAMS was a front line system, more like a system to protect high value stuff like the capital..but I'm not very familiar with it.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:35:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:


Marcellos ain't gonna let that happen.
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Plus it has one of the best restaurants in the world. Not worth the trade.

Antoine’s
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:37:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jack67:


Good point. I read yesterday in someplace like Ykaterinburg, the mobilization commissars abducted and conscripted a 50yo cardiologist, single mother of four, underscoring your point.
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:

It seems like a lot of their highly trained reserve slots like Doctors, Nurses, Pilots, and even officers, are quite old. - In their 50s, 60s, and 70s.  Pretty obvious that training budgets for those spots was almost nill an the old dudes were kept as reservists just to say "We have a reserve."

As has been bandied about muchly... Takes a while to train a pilot. Takes even longer to produce an MD or a competent officer.


Good point. I read yesterday in someplace like Ykaterinburg, the mobilization commissars abducted and conscripted a 50yo cardiologist, single mother of four, underscoring your point.


I didn't think they took folks who had 3 or more children.. those kids must be over 18 of that single mother of 4, so she's good to go to Frontline lol
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:39:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Then that is gonna be a problem

Emergency appeal! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️ ValLagyi I believe that we will disrupt the mobilization - there is no doubt! Today, all of Russia and all of Dagestan saw how to keep their sons out of the war! Today, all villages and all cities of Dagestan have received this lesson, and from tomorrow we will start hunting for everyone who helps mobilization! Your property and your health will no longer be safe, insha Allah! We declare the partisan movement in Dagestan open! And tomorrow you will see our plan! Today is the beginning of your imminent end insha Allah! The truth is with us, this is how Allah prepares his slaves for serious work and actions, insha Allah!
https://t.me/utro_dagestan/2964
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Inshallah!
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:40:43 PM EDT
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Remote weapons station use by Ukrainian national guard.  

Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:40:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:42:44 PM EDT
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Man I hope the Iranian people get to taste freedom circa pre Ayatollahs.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:42:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Interesting idea.  Use local movements/attacks to mask the much larger one.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126537/FdgwqLKXkAAtN4E_jpg-2538951.JPG

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 From his comment section ->
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:43:02 PM EDT
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If only to see the video and look of realization when some of those police officers realize their son’s name has come up and he gets to be shoved into a bus.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:43:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:


Didn't think the NASAMS was a front line system, more like a system to protect high value stuff like the capital..but I'm not very familiar with it.
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Originally Posted By Jack67:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Something new has been confirmed.


Can that be the major part of the big uptick in aircraft losses?

I thought it was probably sortie rate + riskier mission profile. Maybe not? I believe you said before these were significantly more capable.


Didn't think the NASAMS was a front line system, more like a system to protect high value stuff like the capital..but I'm not very familiar with it.


I would figure it's used more for defense of the cities as well, depending which version of the system is used and version of the missile, range could be impressive.

But the question is which cities are with the system.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:43:43 PM EDT
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What is this in reference to?
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What is this in reference to?


The Iranian drone launch point that keeps attacking Odessa
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:47:59 PM EDT
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Jesus how was @m35ben ever banned .

Thanks for what you're doing man! Would be honored to buy you your next subscription (you can hold me to that and please do!)
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Don't worry about the subscription. Many members are doing things to help Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:53:38 PM EDT
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In the end, McCarthy was right..he was alwsys right.

Tail gunner Joe really tried.
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Fuck McCarthy. He never had a list, which discredited anti-communism.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:55:50 PM EDT
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good read, thnx

Q.  Could those art delivered mines have just "disabled" scores of tanks by, for instance, detracking them?   Even if only temporarily, it necessitates parts and repair support, right?

thnx again
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The way they strike it’s likely that they are badly damaged. They use an EFP from above.
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