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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:56:30 PM EDT
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If true, wow.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:56:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Are the gepards not able to track these? The Gepard is apparently a a good counter drone system and has been sold for just that. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Israel will accept 20 seriously wounded Ukrainian soldiers for treatment - Ambassador
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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: If true, wow.
"Enemy At The Gates" you pick up rifle! |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:58:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:59:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:00:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:00:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Israel should setup field hospitals in UA. Only helping others I thought they did. In the West of UA? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat article doesn’t have enough information to give me confidence. But I would like to see the US start rebuilding Abrams for Ukraine, and open a facility in Poland near the border since then both would be M1 users. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:06:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI suppose they store those AK's in the henhouse? Maybe the wellhouse? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K0UA: I suppose they store those AK's in the henhouse? Maybe the wellhouse? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:09:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdgRrITWYAIvWyV?format=jpg&name=medium Hahaha LOL !!! 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWow! Maybe giving them M60A3's! That would be sweet to give the ol girl another life at killing Russian armor! |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
I’m always amazed at how Orcs DO NOTHING for their wounded comrades after they get dunked on like this. It’s every man for himself. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:16:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: That article doesn’t have enough information to give me confidence. But I would like to see the US start rebuilding Abrams for Ukraine, and open a facility in Poland near the border since then both would be M1 users. Tens of billions of dollars spent to open/retool a production line. An M1 from the boneyard has as little in common with an M1A2 SEP V3/V4 as a modern Chevy Caprice does with a '57 Chevy Bel-Air. Different gun, different hull, different drivetrain, different turret, different electronics. Hell, there might still be some commonality in the treads and roadwheels, but probably not. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
So im confused I thought girkin was pro Russia? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The Gepard is apparently a a good counter drone system and has been sold for just that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Are the gepards not able to track these? The Gepard is apparently a a good counter drone system and has been sold for just that. Wonder why we don't hear the gepards rattling off some 35mm then in all the Odessa drone videos? All you hear is small arms |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:21:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: So im confused I thought girkin was pro Russia? That could be RU footage from one of their drones, shown hitting UKR infantry. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:24:01 PM EDT
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 See Ukraine Port City's Referendum (Backed By Russia) To Join Russia |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: So im confused I thought girkin was pro Russia? There seems to be an Igor Girkin parody or duplicate account. I’ve wondered about that myself. One is a Russian war criminal and murderer and one is a pro Ukraine account. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Man I hope the Iranian people get to taste freedom circa pre Ayatollahs.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Man I hope the Iranian people get to taste freedom circa pre Ayatollahs. The islamists screwed up in Iran. Elsewhere, they crush intellectualism and any sort of free thinking... Only blind ignorant obedience is allowed. Iran under the shaw, had a hugely educated and wealthy urban population. The fundies wanted a state equal to that of the Saudis, so they didn't crush it. Educated free thinkers don't take kindly to someone being beaten to death over a scarf. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: That could be RU footage from one of their drones, shown hitting UKR infantry. Did some quick googling, I think the actual guy doesn’t have a Twitter and this indeed is a troll account. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Wow! Maybe giving them M60A3's! That would be sweet to give the ol girl another life at killing Russian armor! I believe all the M60s are out of inventory. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: These people in these regions need to learn about glass bottles and gasoline. It's one of the effective tools they have. Show up at the recruiting offices at night. Throw a brick through the window to break it, a half dozen bottles of gas, then 1 molotov. or 1 molotov then shower the place with bottles of gas after it is lit. But there is absolutely no reason to be fooling around trying to light a bunch of wicks while the cops are closing in. This is the way. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:32:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: I’m always amazed at how Orcs DO NOTHING for their wounded comrades after they get dunked on like this. It’s every man for himself. Every pig for himself. I don't know if it is lack of morals, lack of values, Ain't no comrade ship for sure. something is lacking there. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Tens of billions of dollars spent to open/retool a production line. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Tens of billions of dollars spent to open/retool a production line. Korea is planning to build the K2PL, which is a cousin to the Abrams, so they’ll be building a plant if they don’t have one already. An M1 from the boneyard has as little in common with an M1A2 SEP V3/V4 as a modern Chevy Caprice does with a '57 Chevy Bel-Air. Different gun, different hull, different drivetrain, different turret, different electronics. Hell, there might still be some commonality in the treads and roadwheels, but probably not. Drivetrain and road wheels are the same, but the power packs were probably pulled since I don’t think they have one for every Abrams made. That said they DO reuse the hulls and some other parts when rebuilding an M1A1 into an M1A2. The SEPV3 has internal changes to counter IEDs but they still reuse the hulls. The turrets are largely new. Point being it’s a starting point and it’s mature. The A1s could also be used as is by Ukraine, if someone either builds new spares or upgrades some systems so that new spares are available. I want them using a US system so that we get the tax dollars on the support contracts. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: So im confused I thought girkin was pro Russia? I got whipsawed by that, too a long while back. It’s not Strelkov. Just a joe using the name. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:35:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Wonder why we don't hear the gepards rattling off some 35mm then in all the Odessa drone videos? All you hear is small arms It was heard in one video I guess but there’s probably a prohibition on social media for the soldiers using them and they likely have better disciplined and likely regular army troops manning them. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:41:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: THOT_Vaccine]
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The real Igor Gherkin Pickle has a telegram account he posts to. Looks like he thinks the mobilization will fail.
-edit more-
Hey asshole. The whole world knew this a week ago. Means fuck all to anyone who isn't under Putin's thumb. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Tens of billions of dollars spent to open/retool a production line. An M1 from the boneyard has as little in common with an M1A2 SEP V3/V4 as a modern Chevy Caprice does with a '57 Chevy Bel-Air. Different gun, different hull, different drivetrain, different turret, different electronics. Hell, there might still be some commonality in the treads and roadwheels, but probably not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: That article doesn’t have enough information to give me confidence. But I would like to see the US start rebuilding Abrams for Ukraine, and open a facility in Poland near the border since then both would be M1 users. Tens of billions of dollars spent to open/retool a production line. An M1 from the boneyard has as little in common with an M1A2 SEP V3/V4 as a modern Chevy Caprice does with a '57 Chevy Bel-Air. Different gun, different hull, different drivetrain, different turret, different electronics. Hell, there might still be some commonality in the treads and roadwheels, but probably not. The hulls and some of the drivetrain from an original M1 could probably be reused; however, as you stated, everything else would have to be rebuilt, using part that, in some cases, have not been manufactured in over two decades. Early M1A1's MIGHT be a little better, as the turret could POSSIBLY be upgraded as well. However, how much do you want to delay the US Army and Poland's fielding of M1A2 SEP 2/SEP 3 variants in the process? It would probably be quicker (if not cheaper) to regen the M1/Early M1A1 hulls with as much new stuff as possible and build them as a sort of SEP2- configuration. Even then, assuming Lima started tomorrow and got enough magic money to crank up to full production to sustain both current production and production of the UKR hillbilly version simultaneously, and could somehow both double and accelerate component delivery, the first SEP2- tanks would show up in Ukraine around two years from now, and it would take another four-six months for them to show up at the front in sufficient numbers to make a difference. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:44:18 PM EDT
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That’s private ace to you. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:46:16 PM EDT
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According to Russian pages, the #Russian war correspondent " #russian Blokhin" was arrested in #Syria by order of the commander of the Russian forces in #Syria "Alexander Chaiko"
https://t.me/ALMHARAR |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Did some quick googling, I think the actual guy doesn't have a Twitter and this indeed is a troll account. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By Circuits: That could be RU footage from one of their drones, shown hitting UKR infantry. Did some quick googling, I think the actual guy doesn't have a Twitter and this indeed is a troll account. Exactly what's going on |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: I believe all the M60s are out of inventory. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Wow! Maybe giving them M60A3's! That would be sweet to give the ol girl another life at killing Russian armor! I believe all the M60s are out of inventory. No, they are talking about all the ones in storage in NATO countries have |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: The hulls and some of the drivetrain from an original M1 could probably be reused; however, as you stated, everything else would have to be rebuilt, using part that, in some cases, have not been manufactured in over two decades. Early M1A1's MIGHT be a little better, as the turret could POSSIBLY be upgraded as well. However, how much do you want to delay the US Army and Poland's fielding of M1A2 SEP 2/SEP 3 variants in the process? It would probably be quicker (if not cheaper) to regen the M1/Early M1A1 hulls with as much new stuff as possible and build them as a sort of SEP2- configuration. Even then, assuming Lima started tomorrow and got enough magic money to crank up to full production to sustain both current production and production of the UKR hillbilly version simultaneously, and could somehow both double and accelerate component delivery, the first SEP2- tanks would show up in Ukraine around two years from now, and it would take another four-six months for them to show up at the front in sufficient numbers to make a difference. I suspect that if you called GDLS up and told them you needed X tanks built on a stricter than usual schedule and budget but they just had to be “good enough for Ukraine” they would come up with some good ideas that were workable. And probably use a diesel. More importantly that’s about the only way that modern tanks are going to end up there. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: No, they are talking about all the ones in storage in NATO countries have I thought the Turks and Taiwanese bought the rest. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:55:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:55:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: No, they are talking about all the ones in storage in NATO countries have Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Wow! Maybe giving them M60A3's! That would be sweet to give the ol girl another life at killing Russian armor! I believe all the M60s are out of inventory. No, they are talking about all the ones in storage in NATO countries have Plus "Out of the inventory" doesn't mean gone. It just means uncle samuel sold them off for recycling. And not DRMO type sold off either. There's no way there isn't scads of obsolete hulls sitting around waiting for the torch. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45449/signal-2022-09-25-13-49-20-173_jpg-2539124.JPG This will either be no big deal, or the moment when Ukraine learns to keep CIC in bunkers. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:57:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: If true, wow.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 3:59:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Inshallah!  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By Prime: Then that is gonna be a problem Emergency appeal! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️ ValLagyi I believe that we will disrupt the mobilization - there is no doubt! Today, all of Russia and all of Dagestan saw how to keep their sons out of the war! Today, all villages and all cities of Dagestan have received this lesson, and from tomorrow we will start hunting for everyone who helps mobilization! Your property and your health will no longer be safe, insha Allah! We declare the partisan movement in Dagestan open! And tomorrow you will see our plan! Today is the beginning of your imminent end insha Allah! The truth is with us, this is how Allah prepares his slaves for serious work and actions, insha Allah! https://t.me/utro_dagestan/2964 Inshallah! Wait. Does this mean the Caucuses are about to get it on? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:00:31 PM EDT
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Guys,
Does Ukraine have ANY air power assets at all? CMOS |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45449/signal-2022-09-25-13-49-20-173_jpg-2539124.JPG Why are we looking at a tweet with the account removed so that we can’t check it? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:03:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: This will either be no big deal, or the moment when Ukraine learns to keep CIC in bunkers. Seems odd, they hit it yesterday and it was not a big deal. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:04:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Wait. Does this mean the Caucuses are about to get it on? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By dillydilly: Inshallah! Wait. Does this mean the Caucuses are about to get it on? Inshallah!
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/04/2b/39042b206f148b4371dc0f9cdaa41354.jpg Ukraine should take land, move the himars as far forward as possible, nail the new russian troops and supplies coming in before they ever get to the front lines. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:05:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: Guys, Does Ukraine have ANY air power assets at all? CMOS Ummmm yes. They have almost as many aircraft as before the war only now they can use the HARM missile. Also, they use guided missiles to do what we do with aircraft. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:06:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: daemon734]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Why are we looking at a tweet with the account removed so that we can’t check it? Its a screenshot I was sent. I typically only post in the other milforum Ukraine thread versus this one, just dropped it in here. Feel free to do some fact checking, although I assure you it's real. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: Guys, Does Ukraine have ANY air power assets at all? CMOS Su-27 Su-25 MiG-29 Su-24 Seem to be sortieing regularly. |
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