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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:41:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: A fair number of them seem to be voting with their feet. There's a big difference between voting "Russia should not be in Ukraine" and voting "I should not be in Ukraine. It seems to me that most are voting the latter. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:43:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ricko1: Nice of them to dig their own graves Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ricko1: Originally Posted By HIPPO: Developing.
WWI called and wants it tactics back. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:45:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Flynn is an idiot and Russia isn’t being backed into a corner they are being backed into Russia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By xd341: The correctness of the wisdom is not the debate. The fact that it is the wisdom just goes to explain the statement. If you asked most military leadership since the 50s if Russia would defend itself with nuclear weapons they would likely say yes. Hence our long history of studiously avoiding shooting at them. Flynn's statement was presented in a way that suggested it was Pro-Russian. My argument is that it isn't. It's simply re-stating a military truth that has been assumed to be correct for 70 years. Zelinski made a suggestion that NATO pre-emptively strike Russia in order to prevent a nuclear strike. If the assumed response to that action would itself be a nuclear strike, that seems pretty foolish. none of this claims that Flynn is actually correct. Flynn is an idiot and Russia isn’t being backed into a corner they are being backed into Russia. That is *extremely* well said, sir. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:45:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Just anti-Musk disinfo. Probably from a Twitter user unhappy about losing their private echo chamber. Musk was asked if it was true:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By AnalogKid: As gently as can be stated, Musk needs to stick to the areas in which he excels. Brinksmanship IS NOT one of those. Just anti-Musk disinfo. Probably from a Twitter user unhappy about losing their private echo chamber. Musk was asked if it was true:
Vice reported it coming from Ian Bremmer and the Eurasia Group via their newsletter. So, the truth is in there somewhere. Either the newsletter bit is a lie, Musk is lying, or Vice is wrong/ lying. Musk denied it. Let’s see what happens next. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:46:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: There's a big difference between voting "Russia should not be in Ukraine" and voting "I should not be in Ukraine. It seems to me that most are voting the latter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: A fair number of them seem to be voting with their feet. There's a big difference between voting "Russia should not be in Ukraine" and voting "I should not be in Ukraine. It seems to me that most are voting the latter. All politics is local  What happens when the internal intelligence and police decide they don't want to go? |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:49:10 PM EST
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They seem to never have actual overhead cover.
The trenches actually will be effective though at disrupting the thunder run in humvees tactics the Ukrainians have been using. They do make a effective vehicle barrier. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:49:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: Reminds me of another well fortified line in France right before WW2. It'll be about as useful. UA will launch massive distributed probing attacks to pin the Russians in place. Eventually a soft spot will be found and the main attack will stream through. And once UA is through the line the Russkies are fucked. The lines are just too long to be adequately manned - and without good ISR the Russians have no idea where the UA is building up their schwerpunkt. This is why the people stopped building castles. 40 Second Boyd approves  |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:50:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
That’s interesting it’s left-side drive. Do they make their mil equipment that way for NATO spec? |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:52:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: As gently as can be stated, Musk needs to stick to the areas in which he excels. Brinksmanship IS NOT one of those. He tweeted that it was false. He had one convo with Putin and it was related to space. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 12:56:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Be an even bigger shame if the train was stolen and its contents pressed into UA service.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By Photographic: Originally Posted By HIPPO: Posted about 90 minutes ago.
Be a shame if a HIMARS were to accidentally meet that train... Be an even bigger shame if the train was stolen and its contents pressed into UA service. With all the armor/artillery that the Ukes are picking up they’re going to need more people to field it 
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:20:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093:
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:26:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: With all the armor/artillery that the Ukes are picking up they’re going to need more people to field it Reportedly, they're standing up units as quickly as they can fully train, supply and employ them. Even if you gifted Ukraine 10 armored divisions worth of metal, it'd be 3-6 months before most of it made it into the fight, providing bowsers and support elements were even available to stand up that much armor at all. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:27:05 PM EST
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:32:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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This comes from a nine minute video on TG, and it is cinematic.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:33:37 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeydARSXwAAylgO?format=jpg&name=large That bridge is fuuuked. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:35:34 PM EST
[#16]
Why is it that any government with "People's Republic" in the title is neither about the people nor a republic?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:40:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat thing is totally insane. Can it still travel, stay nimble, hover, etc with a 40mm HEDP round in the nose? Asking for a friend.. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:42:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: 30% are blackmailed by the KGB or however the name is. 20% are idiots with no clue what's going on = Green party, most of them are just dumb. 20% are on the Russian side = AfD (far right party) and the Linke (communist party) 10% are trying to do the right thing. 20% don't care, they just want the money and want vote for everything as long as they stay in power. And 2 in 3 of these politicans are corrupt to the bone while greedy as fuck. The ruling parties hoped for a fast collapse of the Ukraine and back to normal with Russia. Click To View Spoiler That could describe A LOT of US politicians as well. Except substitute China. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:42:21 PM EST
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:50:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: doc540]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: This comes from a nine minute video on TG, and it is cinematic.
anti-Ukraine/NATO staged propaganda videos |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:51:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: Why is it that any government with "People's Republic" in the title is neither about the people nor a republic? I have noticed that now for many decades. It is just one of the little ironies of life. Sort of like "workers paradise" and other such slogans like "black lives matter". People say these things but their actions and policies seem to always be 180 degrees out of phase. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:55:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: First strike should remain an option but I can't say it's the best idea right now. Oh I agree. In a million years I wouldnt advocate nuking someone. But, trying to imagine how this disaster ends, it's hard not to see a nuke dropped by Russia. Then a heavy conventional retaliation by NATO. Then probably more nukes by Russia. Then... I can certainly understand Zelensky asking for a First Strike against Russia. He and his family will not be around to find out how the NATO retaliation and subsequent tit for tat turned out. If someone with the legitimate capability and motivation was threatening to kill my family, I would strike first too. This is a very serious threat and we will be lucky to live through it. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 1:57:31 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Posted about 90 minutes ago.
A bunch of Ukrainian tankers are eagerly waiting for some new kit... (I still think the UA should HIMARS the fuck out off ever Belarusian base hosting Russians or their shitting gear) |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:00:37 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: anti-Ukraine/NATO staged propaganda videos Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Prime: This comes from a nine minute video on TG, and it is cinematic.
anti-Ukraine/NATO staged propaganda videos Well, yeah Here's an even more propagandistic version. Still interesting though.
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:03:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Russian trenching, https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/y1bbdy/russian_forces_are_preparing_extensive_trench/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf You mean Russians preparing to line up soldiers and equipment for Ukrainian Drone Orgies. They will all be fucked. This to be followed by the world's easiest artillery targeting exercise by Ukraine. They probably already have the coordinates punched in. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:08:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maine_11B_to_Nurse: You mean Russians preparing to line up soldiers and equipment for Ukrainian Drone Orgies. They will all be fucked. This to be followed by the world's easiest artillery targeting exercise by Ukraine. They probably already have the coordinates punched in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maine_11B_to_Nurse: Originally Posted By sq40: Russian trenching, https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/y1bbdy/russian_forces_are_preparing_extensive_trench/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf You mean Russians preparing to line up soldiers and equipment for Ukrainian Drone Orgies. They will all be fucked. This to be followed by the world's easiest artillery targeting exercise by Ukraine. They probably already have the coordinates punched in. What year do they think this is? 
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:12:51 PM EST
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MT, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:13:48 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeyYx20XEAE3w3o?format=jpg&name=medium
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:17:35 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: This comes from a nine minute video on TG, and it is cinematic.
Doesn't look like there were many troops in in that tree line. They took forever crossing all that open ground and didn't seem to take any fire. Still, that was a lot of open ground to cross. Whoever was in there didn't seem to have any anti armor weapons. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:17:50 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Hopefully the Russian crews were close by. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:19:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Doesn't look like there were many troops in in that tree line. They took forever crossing all that open ground and didn't seem to take any fire. Still, that was a lot of open ground to cross. Whoever was in there didn't seem to have any anti armor weapons. staged orc propaganda videos |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:20:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Strange double tap. But i will reiterate my desire for those S300 crews to be blasted by 184K tungsten balls. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:21:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: staged orc propaganda videos Probably. First time I've ever seen dismounts.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:21:25 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: This comes from a nine minute video on TG, and it is cinematic.
Anyone have a non-tweeter version? |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:22:51 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeyYx20XEAE3w3o?format=jpg&name=medium Wow, that's painful. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:28:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Anyone have a non-tweeter version? sorry, I don't, but they're not worth watching trust doc on this |
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USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:30:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Anyone have a non-tweeter version? Just change twitter.com to nitter.net |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:30:33 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Strange double tap. But i will reiterate my desire for those S300 crews to be blasted by 184K tungsten balls. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Strange double tap. But i will reiterate my desire for those S300 crews to be blasted by 184K tungsten balls. Glad to hear this. Zaporozhye needs a break from the daily attacks. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:31:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Given that, who's attempting to push an alternate narrative? Twitter/Pagrawal? GM? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By NEXT23: Musk has said he only talked to Putin for 18 minutes in the past, and it was about space. Given that, who's attempting to push an alternate narrative? Twitter/Pagrawal? GM? Neocon Ian Bremmer. Blasted it out in a “cc: all” email. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:31:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: sorry, I don't, but they're not worth watching trust doc on this QFT. Watched all the videos and heard/saw nary an incoming round. Dismounts were super sloppy in their battle drills, and stood around a lot for the final part of the assault. Looks fake af. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:43:34 PM EST
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:44:05 PM EST
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"Ukrainian Artillery Pounds Russian Military Targets In Donbass"  Ukrainian Artillery Pounds Russian Military Targets In Donbas |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:51:33 PM EST
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Warsaw now. The entire stadium is in Ukrainian-Polish colors. UEFA Champions League group stage match between Shakhtar Donetsk and Real Madrid. "Ruska whore" - chanting the stadium. Making the muppets welcome
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:53:48 PM EST
[#44]
Cold bois, just posted.
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Posted: 10/11/2022 2:58:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Cold bois, just posted.
Why were his pants down? OAB? |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 3:04:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: What year do they think this is? Both sides use trenches, it's not like trenches aren't useful. You want to be out in the open under artillery? Drone kills are cool looking and all but it's crazy to think 'regular' artillery isn't still the major player. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 3:04:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By extractr: Why were his pants down? OAB? Looks like they may have attempted to provide first aid before he expired. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 3:06:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: Nah, vehicle commander demanded ass or cash, he didn't get paid this month. Looks like they may have attempted to provide first aid before he expired. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: Originally Posted By extractr: Why were his pants down? OAB? Looks like they may have attempted to provide first aid before he expired. Conscripts don't ride for free, yo!
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Posted: 10/11/2022 3:09:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Attack where they arent. Would be hilarious to is Russia pulled forces from the center to reinforce the big flanks only for teh AFU to spear head to the sea and cut them clean in half. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Firms 1hr ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepGecEWAAEsdgy?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepG9UuWIAA7xvu?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepHl2dXgAETza6?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepIH3HXoAI8hpI?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepJGk8XgAMti6y?format=jpg&name=large I am sure *someone* out there has gamed out that scenario... hopefully a clever Ukrainian and not any Russian. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 3:11:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: I am sure *someone* out there has gamed out that scenario... hopefully a clever Ukrainian and not any Russian. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Originally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Firms 1hr ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepGecEWAAEsdgy?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepG9UuWIAA7xvu?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepHl2dXgAETza6?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepIH3HXoAI8hpI?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FepJGk8XgAMti6y?format=jpg&name=large I am sure *someone* out there has gamed out that scenario... hopefully a clever Ukrainian and not any Russian. Their drones would sniff that out likity split. |
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