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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:02:24 PM EST

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Moar

Looks Like Lockheed\uD83E\uDD1DRaytheon Joint Venture has agreed to get #Javelin production rate up to the 1-8-5 of about 4,000 missiles per year (current contract caps at 2,100). This # is probably what they feel is sustainable given the replenishment need and near-medium term FMS demand. https://t.co/qIi977rEJG pic.twitter.com/vAfcCK9O87
— Air Power (@MIL_STD) October 12, 2022

The defense industrial base, while underfed, poorly led, sadly managed, should consider this a light fucking warm-up before shit kicks-off in the INDOPACOM AOR. I hope that the COCOMs and the joint chiefs are paying attention, pounding the table, and doing the work.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:03:40 PM EST

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Gary did some hard time and directly suffered under the hands of the Putin regime.

While the UN remains useless at best in things that matter most, this isolation of Russia is not meaningless. The message to Putin's elites is that there's no way back with him anymore. Even most reliable puppets and cronies went against him. https://t.co/IbvEzRrp8e
Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) October 12, 2022

That is the message the world must send, loud and clear. No more summits, no Davos, no more yachts, chalets, universities, for Putin and those who enable his war and war crimes.
Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) October 12, 2022

Putin always believes there is a way back because there always has been. "Russia will be a pariah" headlines go back to 2008. But even overconfident or delusional, he knows using a nuke would be the end of the road, a rabid dog in a bunker until someone puts him down.
Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) October 12, 2022

Garry @Kasparov63 has been arrested, beaten, and jailed multiple times by Russian police for speaking out against Putin’s regime. pic.twitter.com/gQgbSXfMbb
Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) October 12, 2022

And those were the “vegetarian days” of Putin’s repression! Soon came more violence, long prison sentences, and assassinations. We failed to resist in Russia, but our enemy was well funded & legitimized by the free world. Now that is crumbling. https://t.co/TRS3C4L3cR
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Interesting that Afghanistan voted with us.
Does the Taliban control their vote now or is it a gov in exile?

Also interesting that Cuba abstained. Russia's influence is as weak as I've ever seen it.

Ryan_Scott Member Joined Oct 2011 Posts 17997 EE 100% (4) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:05:06 PM EST [#3] The Taliban has no love for Russia.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:09:37 PM EST

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Interesting that Afghanistan voted with us.
Does the Taliban control their vote now or is it a gov in exile?

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They run barter town for sure, but the UN is slow-rolling their recognition for two yrs and hence appointment of new rep. Current rep is a hold-over.

https://www.pixstory.com/story/naseer-ahmad-faiq-replaces-ishaqzai-as-afghanistan-s-envoy-to-un/59599

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:10:49 PM EST

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Vatnik, it’s cold outside.

COLD & LONELY: As the snow flies, RU's logistical problems will be exacerbated. This will mean that equipment, food & shelter for RU troops in the field will be in short supply. And remember-- this is a home game for Ukraine, and an away game for Russia. https://t.co/DjpVyUali5 pic.twitter.com/fIPVipuREW
— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 12, 2022

m35ben Deuce Joined Mar 2014 Posts 160693 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:10:51 PM EST [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By sq40: What DOT doing? View Quote
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Zam18th Joined Nov 2004 Posts 12106 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:11:58 PM EST [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The Taliban has no love for Russia. View Quote I should think not. I was expecting an abstention from them though. Like Pakistan.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:13:13 PM EST

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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
They run barter town for sure, but the UN is slow-rolling their recognition for two yrs and hence appointment of new rep. Current rep is a hold-over.

https://www.pixstory.com/story/naseer-ahmad-faiq-replaces-ishaqzai-as-afghanistan-s-envoy-to-un/59599

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Originally Posted By Zam18th:

Interesting that Afghanistan voted with us.
Does the Taliban control their vote now or is it a gov in exile?

They run barter town for sure, but the UN is slow-rolling their recognition for two yrs and hence appointment of new rep. Current rep is a hold-over.

https://www.pixstory.com/story/naseer-ahmad-faiq-replaces-ishaqzai-as-afghanistan-s-envoy-to-un/59599

That makes sense.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:18:39 PM EST

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Ummm yeah it's not that bad in the winter.
It's actually quite nice for winter sports

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Canadian forces certainly do have some skookum Winter gear.

Wul yuh. They live in the frozen icehole of Hoth.

Ummm yeah it's not that bad in the winter.
It's actually quite nice for winter sports

lol

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:18:41 PM EST

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love to read this kind of stuff. Russian morale=shit.

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
From the description of what is happening, how the tables have turned.

Russian soldier in Kherson is complaining about constant retreating under heavy Ukrainian fire. His friend keeps wondering how is it possible that Russians have no weapons to resist effectively. pic.twitter.com/ecpKtVIvK7
Dmitri (@wartranslated) October 12, 2022

love to read this kind of stuff. Russian morale=shit.

Kind of expected, I bet If a bunch of US privates were stuck in fox holes eating MREs and getting hammered with artillery there phone calls would be pretty much the same kind of bitching.

HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8320 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:22:33 PM EST [#11] Here are today's control-of-terrain maps for #Russia's invasion of #Ukraine from @TheStudyofWar and @criticalthreats Click here to see our interactive map, updated daily: https://t.co/tXBbur1lgd pic.twitter.com/MI98l2OKox ISW (@TheStudyofWar) October 12, 2022

HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8321 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:27:09 PM EST [#12] Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Productionhttps://t.co/cO8NGGrVfe — Tyler Rogoway (@Aviation_Intel) October 12, 2022 Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Production

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:31:40 PM EST

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Damn he was smoking..lol

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Notice the man running on fire.

A Russian 2S19 Msta-S SPG was destroyed by Ukrainian precision counter-battery fire in Kherson Oblast. pic.twitter.com/dcmhCfY8Da
— NOËL \uD83C\uDDEA\uD83C\uDDFA \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6 (@NOELreports) October 12, 2022

Damn he was smoking..lol

Doing a regular Poot Scoot Boogie, he was!

Fuck Unity

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:31:40 PM EST

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BBC News on the frontlines in Bahkmut, Eastern Ukraine https://t.co/NMjTP1B5DX via @YouTube
Thank you @OrlaGuerin , stay safe
@SpencerGuard @JaysonGeroux @MriyaReport #UrbanWarfare #Bahkmut @BBCNews @BBCSteveR @bbcrussian
David Pharel (@DavePharrel) October 12, 2022

YouTube video linked in tweet.

BBC News on the frontlines in Bahkmut, Eastern Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48eJQsLPEFg

ludder093 Curmudgeon extraordinaire Joined Jan 2007 Posts 42841 EE 100% (3) IL, USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:32:53 PM EST [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By HIPPO: Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Productionhttps://t.co/cO8NGGrVfe — Tyler Rogoway (@Aviation_Intel) October 12, 2022 Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Production View Quote I doubt we give Ukraine those...
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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:33:24 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Zam18th:

Interesting that Afghanistan voted with us.
Does the Taliban control their vote now or is it a gov in exile?

Also interesting that Cuba abstained. Russia's influence is as weak as I've ever seen it.

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Cuba is trying to get the US to send help to put their electrical grid back together after the hurricane.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it..

HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8323 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:33:27 PM EST [#17] If you have not watched @mercoglianos video on the effect of the Kerch Bridge truck bomb on Russian maritime traffic. Now is a good time\uD83D\uDC47https://t.co/C840Xz6NYj Trent Telenko (@TrentTelenko) October 12, 2022

HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8324 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:34:33 PM EST [#18] Reuters- UK to donate air defence missiles to Ukraine The UK will donate AMRAAMs compatible with NASAMS, and “Hundreds of additional air defence missiles of other types would also be donated, along with more aerial drones and a further 18 howitzers” https://t.co/NvOcr87VRz OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) October 12, 2022

fadedsun Member Joined Apr 2004 Posts 36029 EE 100% (26) UKR	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:38:17 PM EST [#19] Quote History Originally Posted By ricko1: Kind of expected, I bet If a bunch of US privates were stuck in fox holes eating MREs and getting hammered with artillery there phone calls would be pretty much the same kind of bitching. View Quote I'd complain, but I know the reason I am there and who I am fighting for.
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HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8325 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:40:34 PM EST [#20] During the liberation of one of villages in Kherson Oblast, Ukraine's Special Operations Forces took Russian MLRS Hurricane as a trophy in a good condition. https://t.co/rwGfGbxDMd pic.twitter.com/XXg8g22uO3 Euromaidan Press (@EuromaidanPress) October 13, 2022

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:42:28 PM EST

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Just as an academic exercise-

Russians are claiming an SBU agent was planning to do something nefarious with an IGLA.

Watch the whole thing, in unusually high Russian resolution and filmed from EVERY POSSIBLE ANGLE, right here.

A lot of \uD83C\uDDF7\uD83C\uDDFA Hollywood Show this morning:
\uD83C\uDDF7\uD83C\uDDFAFSB showed a video of an \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6SBU agent detained for planning a terrorist attack in the Moscow region using Igla manpad pic.twitter.com/Ceu2Q3GXer
C4H10FO2P (@markito0171) October 12, 2022

??L'FSB ha arrestato un agente della SBU che stava preparando un attacco terroristico con gli Igla MANPADS nella regione di Mosca
@chpdonetskdnr_bot pic.twitter.com/S8Jyc0v4Op
— Angel Van Lang (divergent)Z?\uD83C\uDDF5\uD83C\uDDF8 NATOexit (@angelo_falanga) October 13, 2022

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:43:44 PM EST

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I doubt we give Ukraine those...

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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Productionhttps://t.co/cO8NGGrVfe
— Tyler Rogoway (@Aviation_Intel) October 12, 2022

Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Production

I doubt we give Ukraine those...

It's going to be a bit of time and testing, even for us to get good numbers of them.

It's not stupid, it's advanced!!

HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8326 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:45:04 PM EST [#23] A UAV used by Belarusian volunteers to drop 120mm mortar rounds.https://t.co/x2YxVvUbOm pic.twitter.com/lPJL3wYXo5 Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 13, 2022

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:45:34 PM EST

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Cuba is trying to get the US to send help to put their electrical grid back together after the hurricane.

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Originally Posted By Zam18th:

Interesting that Afghanistan voted with us.
Does the Taliban control their vote now or is it a gov in exile?

Also interesting that Cuba abstained. Russia's influence is as weak as I've ever seen it.

Cuba is trying to get the US to send help to put their electrical grid back together after the hurricane.

But surely Russia has some manpower and equipment to spare.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:48:32 PM EST

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\uD83D\uDCA5\uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6LIVE NOW!!! Col John Spencer @SpencerGuard is with us #Live on The MriyaReport @MriyaReport #MriyaReport talking about military updates. Come and listen or join in the discussion #Ukraine \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6\uD83D\uDCA5 pic.twitter.com/BGqCFwKgck
Mriya Report (@MriyaReport) October 13, 2022

Mriya report is a great way to listen to regular updates and discussion on the war. Lots of the sources linked in this thread are frequent guests/speakers.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:49:21 PM EST

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Could you look at the chess board that is the Ukraine/Russian war and tell who is winning? An amazing podcast with my friend Duc (longest serving US SF operator) on @WarInstitute @IrregWarfare podcast. https://t.co/HjThWuOgou
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I hate the chess analogy. War like this is a classic game of Go. Ukraine is looking to take territory not kill or capture the king.

Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:50:47 PM EST

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Originally Posted By fadedsun:

I'd complain, but I know the reason I am there and who I am fighting for.

https://gdb.rferl.org/80280000-c0a8-0242-0632-08da6642fef8_w650_r0_s.jpg

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I was speaking in terms of the general bitching, Thankfully I never experienced combat but I spent many nights as a low ranking enlisted grunt, cold, wet, hungry with no idea of what the hell we were doing or what leadership was thinking. If I would have had a cellphone I know my phone calls would have been full of epic bitching.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:51:27 PM EST

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KERCH BRIDGE: Photos reveal downward blast damage on adjacent guardrails-- indicating the airburst of a ballistic missile warhead, not the surface detonation of a VBIED, as Moscow claims. When the submerged section is raised, it will reveal a neat penetration crater. pic.twitter.com/cJjamUHlC9
— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 13, 2022

Any takers on this bet?

CPT_CAVEMAN Member Joined Feb 2012 Posts 59230 EE 100% (30) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:51:39 PM EST [#29] Quote History Originally Posted By HIPPO: A UAV used by Belarusian volunteers to drop 120mm mortar rounds.https://t.co/x2YxVvUbOm pic.twitter.com/lPJL3wYXo5 Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 13, 2022 View Quote Anyone heard from the mustache guy?

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:55:18 PM EST

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Damn he was smoking..lol

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Notice the man running on fire.

A Russian 2S19 Msta-S SPG was destroyed by Ukrainian precision counter-battery fire in Kherson Oblast. pic.twitter.com/dcmhCfY8Da
— NOËL \uD83C\uDDEA\uD83C\uDDFA \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6 (@NOELreports) October 12, 2022

Damn he was smoking..lol

He knew he wasn't supposed to smoke, but there he is....

xd341 Tard Whisperer Joined Aug 2012 Posts 20846 EE 0% (0) NY, USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:56:35 PM EST [#31] Quote History Originally Posted By HIPPO: On the footage - "hello" from the "Russian world" in #Zaporizhzhia. pic.twitter.com/yZBku232Ms — NEXTA (@nexta_tv) October 12, 2022 View Quote That's a big fuckin hole

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:58:18 PM EST

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

It's going to be a bit of time and testing, even for us to get good numbers of them.

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Originally Posted By ludder093:

Originally Posted By HIPPO:

Double The Range Rockets For HIMARS One Step Closer To Productionhttps://t.co/cO8NGGrVfe
— Tyler Rogoway (@Aviation_Intel) October 12, 2022

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I doubt we give Ukraine those...

It's going to be a bit of time and testing, even for us to get good numbers of them.

Maybe @R0N could spitball about where this is at in the long process of fielding. Does that report mean that Lockheed has won a contract for the army to procure them or is developing them under their own funding to prepare a bid for an army procurement?

Disclaimer: I’m in the TRL 0 world so this process is all stuff I usually glass over trying to wrap my head around when it comes up…

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Posted: 10/12/2022 7:59:39 PM EST

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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

KERCH BRIDGE: Photos reveal downward blast damage on adjacent guardrails-- indicating the airburst of a ballistic missile warhead, not the surface detonation of a VBIED, as Moscow claims. When the submerged section is raised, it will reveal a neat penetration crater. pic.twitter.com/cJjamUHlC9
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Nope. I'll wait and see. If it was a missile, it was a pretty big one.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it..

fadedsun Member Joined Apr 2004 Posts 36031 EE 100% (26) UKR	Posted: 10/12/2022 7:59:49 PM EST [#34] Biden's weakness is showing. He claims to be hard on putin, but scared to send the Atacms and PRSM (for testing)
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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:01:16 PM EST

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Imagery from @Maxar today confirms that Russian repair crews continue to work on the Crimean Bridge rail span. https://t.co/ZzCHhsSOkl pic.twitter.com/sjdXDscHSh
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe53IWHXgAA811m?format=jpg&name=900x900

In #Crimea, today’s imagery shows repairs in progress on both the rail line of the Crimea Bridge as well as on damaged sections of the road/vehicle bridge span. Vehicles can be seen traveling along the bridge & nearby a ferry transporting trucks across the #KerchStrait. pic.twitter.com/p4lhRHQZ0C
Maxar Technologies (@Maxar) October 12, 2022

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe51pO-aUAAt0Z-?format=jpg&name=large

The ferry.

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The Ukrainians should notify all contractors present that the Death Star is about to be struck again, and unless they want to be collateral damage they need to di di mau. Then hit the fucking thing again.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:01:40 PM EST

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That's a big fuckin hole

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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

On the footage - "hello" from the "Russian world" in #Zaporizhzhia. pic.twitter.com/yZBku232Ms
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) October 12, 2022

That's a big fuckin hole

and a direct hit on an important military target by a highly precision russian rocket

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:02:12 PM EST

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Originally Posted By jough43:

I agree India needs some sanctions. Shouldn't we want their best and brightest people? Over the last 2 days, I saw 2 specialist doctors. Both Indian and young.

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The fact that that US is typically the beneficiary of others’ brain drains is one of our most underappreciated advantages.

To your second observation, an aging workforce in specialized or technical fields is usually a bad sign of things to come.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:11:43 PM EST

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Originally Posted By MouseBoy:I'm shocked!! Shocked!!!

lol

Just not sure they are telling the truth

I'm pretty sure Russia isn't suicidal, but they are really great at the feint

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The problem is this: at what point does escalating to de-escalate become indistinguishable from suicidal? At what point does being a strong bully outweigh sanity? At what point does Putin become so trapped by his own failures and his own rhetoric that suicide becomes what appears to them the best choice?

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:11:43 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Waldo:

Nope. I'll wait and see. If it was a missile, it was a pretty big one.

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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

KERCH BRIDGE: Photos reveal downward blast damage on adjacent guardrails-- indicating the airburst of a ballistic missile warhead, not the surface detonation of a VBIED, as Moscow claims. When the submerged section is raised, it will reveal a neat penetration crater. pic.twitter.com/cJjamUHlC9
— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 13, 2022

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Nope. I'll wait and see. If it was a missile, it was a pretty big one.

HIRM-2 was, allegedly, like 6 months from IOC back in Feb ‘22. 500 kg warhead. ATACMs is like half that in terms of warhead size. I’m still leaning on the SVBIED method given the size of the damage. One day the truth will come out.

Looks like Chuck is all-in on the missile theory.

NOTE: Decided to put this up before the 'big reveal' when RU salvage teams raise the sunken eastern section--revealing a symmetrical penemtration. Prepare to see the deletion of tens of thousands of ‘it’s a truck bomb’ tweets. The VBIED hypothesis is a Moscow talking point.
— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 13, 2022

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:12:46 PM EST

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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

KERCH BRIDGE: Photos reveal downward blast damage on adjacent guardrails-- indicating the airburst of a ballistic missile warhead, not the surface detonation of a VBIED, as Moscow claims. When the submerged section is raised, it will reveal a neat penetration crater. pic.twitter.com/cJjamUHlC9
— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 13, 2022

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There was speculation that the reason the Russians are pushing the VBIED theory so hard is that the bridge was protected by S-400. I don't know if that's true. S-400 systems are still fairly rare, but the bridge is a national priority for Russia so it's plausible that they had an S-400 in the area.

That would be embarrassing

Prime Advocatus Diaboli Joined Apr 2009 Posts 17560 EE 100% (7) VA, USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 8:14:30 PM EST [#41] Video of Belarusian volunteers with a captured Russian MT-12 Rapira anti-tank gun.https://t.co/iXxfn28xvi pic.twitter.com/0G7naQgQTw Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 13, 2022
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cryo_tech Member Joined Feb 2012 Posts 8258 EE 100% (40) VA, USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 8:16:17 PM EST [#42] Quote History Originally Posted By Prime: Video of Belarusian volunteers with a captured Russian MT-12 Rapira anti-tank gun.https://t.co/iXxfn28xvi pic.twitter.com/0G7naQgQTw Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 13, 2022 View Quote LOL a fucking ATG? What is this, 1944?

HIPPO Joined Oct 2004 Posts 8330 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 8:19:10 PM EST [#43] pic.twitter.com/3PzMP4Mapr — spook (@spook_info) October 13, 2022 Left, um, cold (nsfw): https://t.me/spook_boys

Prime Advocatus Diaboli Joined Apr 2009 Posts 17561 EE 100% (7) VA, USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 8:19:32 PM EST [#44] I'm having such a good time \uD83C\uDFB6 pic.twitter.com/lAv5mj2G59 — North Atlantic Fella Organization (@Official_NAFO) October 12, 2022
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RolandofGilead You Don't Have Time To Think Up There Joined Oct 2003 Posts 62236 EE 100% (30) USA	Posted: 10/12/2022 8:20:53 PM EST [#46] Quote History Originally Posted By HIPPO: pic.twitter.com/3PzMP4Mapr — spook (@spook_info) October 13, 2022 Left, um, cold (nsfw): https://t.me/spook_boys View Quote I was just about to post that
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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:30:07 PM EST

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian MT-LB drives right over visible mines on road.

NO F.CKING COMMENTS AT ALL \uD83D\uDE06 pic.twitter.com/6Wa6CGnLNq
— Angry Cossack (@auto_glam) October 12, 2022

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Welp. That answers the question of the poster who wondered the purpose and effectiveness of placing the mines in the road like that.

The track kinda looked like an MT-LBu instead of a plane-jane.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:32:10 PM EST

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?? Mayor: Russian forces heavily shell Mykolaiv overnight.

Mykolaiv Mayor Oleksandr Sienkevych said that Russian forces hit a five-story residential building overnight on Oct. 13.
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) October 13, 2022

Rescuers are working on the scene. There is no information on casualties available at the moment.

Sienkevych said more information will be provided in the morning.
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) October 13, 2022

Northwest of Kherson.

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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:35:29 PM EST

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:

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Originally Posted By SuperSixOne:
It's massivly entertaining to see videos of German 155's with the iron cross poorly painted over shooting east again.

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There’s been tons of pics of kraut armor with Bundeswehr stuff half painted over or not at all.

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