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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:56:43 PM EDT
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Is that a wooden propeller….
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:01:46 PM EDT
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Russian shit on fire in Belgorod. Turn sound on when you watch the video.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:02:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, Poland, you getting scary.

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Missiles now, domestic production ASAP.  Same for the Korean tanks, not sure about the jets.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:08:21 PM EDT
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NATO Chief: There will be 'severe consequences' if Russia uses nuclear weapons

There will be 'severe consequences' if Russia uses nuclear weapons says NATO Chief
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:09:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire:



The left did SO much damage to this country with a stolen election via vote fraud; you are describing one avenue of that damage.

We are likely only seeing a fraction of the total damage to be inflicted on this country before the current Pretendent's term is done.  I'm glad that Ukraine is doing so well despite the circumstances, at least.
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Trust and confidence in our core institutions have crumbled. Not just in the dirty cops of the fbi but even the military. Thanks to the dems weaponizing every aspect of government against political enemies in the name of gaining more and more power.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:12:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, Poland, you getting scary.

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I do like our European allies and Asian allies making in roads.

Sucks we miss out on the money but increases interoperability and makes China think
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:18:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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That is a lot of M142 HIMARS systems Lockheed could have sold Poland if they had greater production capacity. I recall Poland wanted to order 500 HIMARS systems, but it is understandable that they can't wait years to get them. We seriously need to increase our capacity for manufacturing greater numbers of weapons systems and also have an additional built in surge capacity for even more, should the need arise. It is a joke that we can only produce such a pathetic number of HIMARS launchers in a given year. The same is true for many other weapons systems as well, to include naval ships. We need multiple plants capable of producing the same systems. And we need multiple yards capable of building a single class of ships.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:18:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?
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The NYT say anything detrimental about their beloved Mother Russia???
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:20:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire:


That reads like he converted to Islam.
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Originally Posted By Prime:


That reads like he converted to Islam.


If we aren’t all nukes the “DPR” will cease to exist in about 24-36 months….if not sooner.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:23:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:38:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:

What on earth would ever convince him to even say that? 🤔
No reason for that.
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:

What on earth would ever convince him to even say that? 🤔
No reason for that.

Probably trying to keep Russia from nuking them
if the SHTF.  Better if he had just STFU.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:45:28 PM EDT
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Losing the bridge causing logistical collapse?

Only explanation I can see for this 'only a matter of days' attitude we're seeing pieces of from both sides.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:46:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:



Wood is common in propeller driven aircraft, these drones are not much different.  Wood props are common in RC as well.
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Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Originally Posted By PM4E:


Are wooden props commonplace in drone technology is this an Iranian innovation?



Wood is common in propeller driven aircraft, these drones are not much different.  Wood props are common in RC as well.


And, much less technology required vs carbon-fiber versions. Cheaper, too.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:50:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

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Putin might decide to stay home,  being out of the country would be an excellent time for a coup.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:50:43 PM EDT
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Wow, that looks like a flying mini DM22.

Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:52:09 PM EDT
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Hopefully this is the beginning of a trend.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:55:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


Wonderful bit of history, thank you.
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Depuy was the fucking man.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 2:59:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:


Losing the bridge causing logistical collapse?

Only explanation I can see for this 'only a matter of days' attitude we're seeing pieces of from both sides.
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:


Losing the bridge causing logistical collapse?

Only explanation I can see for this 'only a matter of days' attitude we're seeing pieces of from both sides.

Ukraine has been pounding the shit out of their supply lines, stores, and forces for awhile now. They’ve been knocking their battle lines back while re-taking key terrain and territory.

The bridge is a nice cherry on top, especially since Russia now has to resupply overland on exterior lines - even when it works it takes longer than it did before.

Russian forces will be forced to fall back en mass over the river to the left bank unless they want to get totally wiped out.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:04:02 PM EDT
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Rolling over black dirt.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:04:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:08:07 PM EDT
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Being reported by the opposition press in Belarus. Guess they don’t want to miss out on getting their asses kicked.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:15:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Ukraine Airs ‘Romantic’ Video Asking France for More Guns
By AFP for Kyiv Post
Published Oct. 13 at 12:55 pm



Ukraine’s defence ministry sought to woo France on Wednesday, Oct.12, with a mock love-letter video, urging its ally to send more artillery as a “romantic gesture” to repel the Russian invasion.

The unusual plea, set to Jane Birkin and Serge Gainsbourg’s sultry hit “Je T’aime… Moi Non Plus”, comes as Kyiv urges Western nations to help bolster its air defences after a rash of deadly Russian air strikes in recent days.

“Romantic gestures take many forms,” reads the text in the video posted to the ministry’s Twitter account, opening with footage of pink roses, milk chocolate and a sunset over the Seine river.

“But if you really want to win our hearts,” it adds before cutting to images of large guns in action, “nothing beats 155-mm highly mobile self-propelled artillery”.


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That's hilarious.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:22:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:23:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:26:18 PM EDT
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Belgorod


Seems like this is the depot that AT posted about.

Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:26:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Russian shit on fire in Belgorod. Turn sound on when you watch the video.
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mmm, jiffy pop
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:26:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:


WTF man! I would have bought one of those!

It breaks my heart to see that.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Originally Posted By K0UA:



what ever it is, we needed to have sent more.
We should also consider that an awful lot of the gear and ammo are a net gain to our military budget. M113s are never going back into US service, we have spent billions maintaining them in storage over the years, same with gobs of the ammo we have sent, we paid for it decades ago, and would have continued spending billions maintaining and storing it for decades to come.

What so few seem to grasp is that most of what we have sent is our garbage, sort of like at my house, every few years we go through and donate junk to a church rummage sale or other charity, it is junk, but still useful to someone else. I am glad to get rid of it, and the other person finds it valuable. I often send a few bits that are "good stuff" with the junk, because it is for a good cause, but it is still things I am not going to use any way.


P38 is right of course.  

Here is an illustration of his point (building an artificial reef):

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WTF man! I would have bought one of those!

It breaks my heart to see that.

I felt the same way.  What a fucking waste!
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:28:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:29:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By weptek911:


It’s absolute bullshit to see that! Those APCs don’t belong to the government, they belong to the American people. They should be surplussed and sold. Not dumped into the ocean for whatever reason..

My local Sheriff Department had one they had fixed up and professionally painted black and gold for their SWAT team. Obama government took it away and shipped it to a Air National Guard bombing range to be used as a target.
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I like the M113 as much as anyone, but there is a reason it is falling out of service with the US, and any other military that can afford a replacement.

Fundamentally, it's a volume problem - you can't stuff enough engine inside the typical M113 to carry the weight of weapons, equipment, and armor that is truly needed to fight and survive today.

The Australian M113AS4 is probably among the best upgraded versions out there (and some Turkish types), where they added a 6th road wheel and another 24in or so in length, but they are still limited.

I still support sending them because they could be fine for the roles slightly behind the lines that we still have them for: armored ambulance and mortar carriers, and things like that.

Those particular A2s being turned into artificial reefs are scrap.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:30:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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They're buying a lot of stuff from SK.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:31:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

Being reported by the opposition press in Belarus. Guess they don’t want to miss out on getting their asses kicked.
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Risky move for Lukashenko, if true.  He just barely kept a lid on unrest not long ago, and I think the Belarus military is only something like 50k troops anyway.

That being said, have to manage an additional active front would obviously not be a good thing for Ukraine.  But collapse of the Lukashenko regime is a greater-than-zero possibility.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:31:41 PM EDT
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NSFW.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:34:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:


Losing the bridge causing logistical collapse?

Only explanation I can see for this 'only a matter of days' attitude we're seeing pieces of from both sides.
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:


Losing the bridge causing logistical collapse?

Only explanation I can see for this 'only a matter of days' attitude we're seeing pieces of from both sides.

Damn. How thin are their supplies? You'd think they'd be pretty fat going into winter.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:39:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

And now the chance to kill iranian IRGC!!! What a bargain! Only thing missing is some antifa and BLM...
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:42:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:44:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
It was....until I hit "learnt"

Is learnt a word?

is the author English?  I thought they invented the language?


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learn
/lərn/
Learn to pronounce
verb
past tense: learnt; past participle: learnt
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:46:23 PM EDT
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GTLandser Ukrainian edition.

Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:46:42 PM EDT
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Attachment Attached File
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:50:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AeroE:
Every reader should note that Ukraine did not fly a long drawn out US "Seek Eagle" type of test program before putting these missiles into service.

Don't stand around wringing your hands when time is of the essence during an emergency.

Understand the risk, then have experts on hand that know how to solve any adverse problem, then fix it.  Kelly Johnson's practice was to ask for the five minute answer from experts, knowing that it would be 90% of a long drawn out analysis.

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Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe9KGwaWYAI7EE5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Every reader should note that Ukraine did not fly a long drawn out US "Seek Eagle" type of test program before putting these missiles into service.

Don't stand around wringing your hands when time is of the essence during an emergency.

Understand the risk, then have experts on hand that know how to solve any adverse problem, then fix it.  Kelly Johnson's practice was to ask for the five minute answer from experts, knowing that it would be 90% of a long drawn out analysis.



How do you know that a long drawn out test program wasn't done to use HARMs and other US weapons on MIG-29s?

The US bought 21 MIG-29s from Moldova in 1997 to keep them from being bought by Iran. Note where they were transported to.

"Between October and November 1997, the MiG-29s were prepared for transport by C-17A Globemaster III to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. Along with the jets came spare parts and a significant haul of air-to-air missiles: 344 infrared-guided R-60 (AA-8 Aphid), 112 infrared-guided R-73 (AA-11 Archer), and 51 radar-guided R-27R (AA-10 Alamo) weapons."

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44661/the-last-time-the-united-states-got-its-hands-on-a-fleet-of-mig-29-fighters
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:50:33 PM EDT
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lol, that could be an interesting fatality.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:52:41 PM EDT
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Putin might decide to stay home,  being out of the country would be an excellent time for a coup.
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I wouldn't want to be on the same plane he is on.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:53:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:



Missiles now, domestic production ASAP.  Same for the Korean tanks, not sure about the jets.
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, Poland, you getting scary.




Missiles now, domestic production ASAP.  Same for the Korean tanks, not sure about the jets.


I know it's a brand new aircraft, and there might be a bit of overlap in capabilities but I want to see Polish KF-21s flying alongside their F-35s.

Perhaps Poland will chip in for later versions with capabilities closer to what the F-22 offers...
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:54:14 PM EDT
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Red Cross (ICRC) continues to be either a) compromised or b) super fucked up.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:54:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:

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Now use it in a sentence.


The orcs gonna get learnt today.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 3:54:20 PM EDT
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What a waste.
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